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8:00 PM
@MarkR Does the employer supplies free acid / E or weed ?
I wouldn't ever work for someone like that and whoever does that is an idiot
I had an employer once that told me I couldn't laugh I told him to fuck off straight ahead
 
I was once working as a comedian, I told my boss I wanted the night off, he said you've got to be joking.
 
hahaaha
That's why amazon is so brilliant about where they establish their depots, they pick this random town in the middle of nowhere so people have no other option but to comply to whatever crazy job laws they establish
"""brilliant""" bunch of douches
 
they wanted to settle here, I'm glad and I thank god there is no amazon in Argentina
 
@Danack got a sizeable following too, almost 10k folks
 
8:15 PM
@PeeHaa youtube.com/watch?v=X0x7sxpCitE Maybe straight down your alley
Assuming you don't know this guy already
 
@ln-s read through more of their comments on reddit. There are some things that they do not compute. Like, there is a veil that blocks completely a whole category of communications towards that human.
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier I feel something which is called Verguenza ajena, roughly translated to Foreign shame
Which could also be translated as cringe I guess
I won't I can't it makes me feel sick in my stomach
^ For real
 
@ln-s that is a very healthy initiative
 
IGP
@ln-s "vergüenza ajena" can be translated as "second-hand embarrassment."
 
Germans have Fremdschämen
@IGP Still A bit awkward to say "I felt second hand embarrassment for that guy"
 
IGP
8:25 PM
@ln-s I believe the correct way of saying that would be "That guy gave me second-hand embarrassment."
 
hmmm
Still not so colloquial don't you think ?
 
IGP
That's what "cringe" is for :^)
 
Yeah that's why I said cringe, def
@IGP Thanks for the second hand tip, appreciated 😀
 
anyone encountered this? ERROR: is_file(): Unable to find the wrapper ".https" - did you forget to enable it when you configured PHP? I found stackoverflow.com/questions/18643572/…, which seems related, but I'm flabbergasted that I'm just now encountering this error, when I'm 99% positive an HTTPS link has been encountered before
 
(DOT)https ?
 
8:31 PM
yes...
it's possible that it's an issue with a customer's content, but because I can google the issue, I'm not sure
 
I would direct my investigation towards that direction
 
IGP
@ln-s Happy to be of help.
 
ah..yeah, I see now
 
IGP
I don't think the guy's framework will take off. I haven't even looked at the code but I feel back-end frameworks have it harder than front-end (javascript) frameworks when it comes to gaining traction.
 
@IGP Well it's not eye candy
and there are concepts which are rooted those are hard to change
plus iffing and elsing and die'ing everywhere
yeah
Hard pass for me
 
IGP
8:35 PM
Unless they are revolutionary in some way, or are perceived as something the language really needed.

In terms of PHP, I feel people in general are happy with laravel and are much more likely to change their front end (angular, react, vue, alpine).
 
Well PHP has been through more iterations than any of those
so yeah
I'm not moving away from Vue tho
 
IGP
Fair.
One thing that worries me a bit about Laravel is the fact they're actively chosing not to support one of PHP8's features.
 
Mainly because I don't support google or facebook plus I don't like angular or react , I checked out svelte but I think vue has all what I need, the main thing of any JS framework is the centralized store
Additionally a good CSS third party library with components, etc
I don't enjoy laravel much to be honest, I'm more of a symfony guy, too much staticness
 
IGP
I prefer backend to frontend but I know a bit about angular. I chose it over react/vue based on what I saw on job ads.
 
Check the components at the left bar
 
IGP
8:43 PM
A lot of pretty, ready-made stuff.
 
... so I have some kind of morbid fascination and I went through a few pages of the framework before heading to the github and.
 
Yep and customizable most important
 
IGP
Yup.
 
@FĂ©lixGagnon-Grenier probably a "give me the sausages not a tour of the factory" situation :-P
 
... yeah this is rather... I wish y'all read systemantics right away because I think this guy is a prime example of a system in terminal phase.
 
8:44 PM
Yeah that project is just awesome
 
IGP
Do you enjoy reading unpopular/new frameworks documentation @FélixGagnon-Grenier ?
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier He still doesn't surpasses terry
 
"enjoy" is a very strong word
 
lol ok stopped the video after the first sentence
 
8:45 PM
@FélixGagnon-Grenier Please go on, it gets better
But this guy had legit mental problems
 
haaaaaahahahahahahahahaha
 
IGP
Say whatever you want about Terry but the guy was brilliant in his own way.
 
I agree
 
IGP
@FélixGagnon-Grenier ubiquity.kobject.net
 
@ln-s ah the first comment gives much needed context
@IGP let's see that :)
 
IGP
8:48 PM
Here's a framework that was at the very top of php benchmarks list last time I checked. I haven't done anything major in it but it looks cool and I can get behind the ideas of the framework.
A few years ago the documentation wasn't fully translated. I think it had parts that were randomly in french.
 
haha
 
well, I shall be ok if I find some of those :P
 
"Randomly in French"
 
IGP
I figured, your name is frenchier than french fries.
 
8:51 PM
Yes he is French!
 
I be French Canadian, but A for Effort
 
Ok, Canadian sorry to you
 
IGP
I have a trauma with french canadian... or rather canadian french.
The accent
 
... lately I've started wondering if, when I say something like "I be" folks understand that I willingly wrote the error for some kind of tone, or if I just really confirm that I can't write english
@IGP that is understandable
 
@FĂ©lixGagnon-Grenier English is my 1st and only language, earlier today I sent an email that started with the words "I spoken to Danny"
 
IGP
8:53 PM
I don't think anyone writes "I be" without meaning it as a joke of some kind. Even people who don't know a lick of English know "I am".
 
@DaveRandom lol that's perfect
 
my brain knows English, my fingers do not
 
can't find it at the moment but, along the lines of mail failures, someone apparently had sent an email to a whole multinational company (like, thousands of people) and ended the mail with the usual salutation but with a typoe, and said "kindest retards" to everyone
 
IGP
@FélixGagnon-Grenier fun story. I once went to Canada when I was young for a Dictation contest..... and I couldn't understand anything the guy reading the words loudly was saying.
 
:/ hope you scored ok nonetheless?
 
8:57 PM
hope you scored aboot a reasonable score eh
 
IGP
I don't think I did, but I didn't mind. I had already won in my heart. (free ticket to canada and free stay at a 4-stars hotel just to participate)
 
yeh that is mint by any metric
 
IGP
That contest was cursed though! Even my pen gave up on me
 
@ln-s oh no worries! I was answering IGP
 
8:59 PM
That was a joke, sorry
 
no I'm the sorriest
 
The minotaur always gets me
 
dayum that's pretty absurd
 
That's awesome
Skip to 6:37 xD
I love will ferrell, jim carrey, john c reilly they are all great comedians
 
@FĂ©lixGagnon-Grenier apparently he used to be big in the codeignitor community before going off the deepend: en.reddit.com/r/PHP/comments/nzyu81/…
 
9:06 PM
Code igniter is also questionable, not a framework who follows exactly good practices
 
@Danack Jim Carey? yeh I believe that
 
lol
That guy is an incredible actor, can do funny comedy as well as the most dramatic roles
 
IGP
Well, code igniter being code igniter is what pushed Taylor Otwell to create laravel according to the man himself.
Also that scene is the most ridiculous thing I've seen this month.
 
I have a lot of respect for Jim Carey and tbf his "going off the deep end" was overstated afaict, it seems like he decided to explore some crazy-ish unprovable ideas rather than drinking the asshole koolaid
 
@IGP Yeah from a corpse things come out living, it's a life fact xD
 
9:10 PM
I watched Ace Ventura <1yr ago and will definitely watch it again one day when I am bored
 
@IluTov thanks, back to under discussion and removed the vote, that state transition is not in my hacky auto detection :p
 
similarly The Mask is excellent, mainly because of him
 
Those movies with a spliff, I'm not sure I could live to tell
 
Not sure if he still is, but at one time Jim Carrey is or was an anti-vaxxer. I'm hoping he's changed his mind though.
 
@JoeWatkins For some people being told they are acting odd seems to make them want to double-down on that behaviour. For example the anti-vaxers, Q-anon and people who don't like trans people. In this particular case, I don't think there's much point discussing his code. I'm not going to watch them in details, but: For PHP , 2015 to 2021 are "the bullschitt years" (mega rant!)
 
9:11 PM
oh yeah Mask is incredible
 
@Tiffany We only be talking about his acting I don't care if he has poodles for breakfast
 
you can also be an asshole without having mental health problems though ...
 
for real ^
 
@DaveRandom Jim Carrey actually seems to be in a good place right now, and sounds like an interesting person to talk to: youtube.com/watch?v=21CEOlBq2YI
 
9:13 PM
I can't tell what his state of mind is, but he's being a jerk and acting crazy, I'm allowed to say that if it's the truth ...
 
@JoeWatkins oh sure! But at some point there just isn't much of a difference. I meant that talking about his code and trying to analyze what is wrong with it isn't likely to lead to a productive conversation, and is more likely to be just making fun of someone who...doesn't perceive the same base reality that the rest of us do.
 
I simply do not trust a person who deliberately keeps their hair at the awkward length between "not in your face" and "can tie it back"
 
it's like folks who have both suspenders and a belt
 
you don't believe in redundancy ?
 
@FĂ©lixGagnon-Grenier ah yeh sorry I forgot you were born in a fire station
 
9:17 PM
wat
@JoeWatkins hmmm, well, that's fair
 
@FĂ©lixGagnon-Grenier intrigued as to where else you are finding suspenders, unless you mean stocking but that is a whole other thing where a belt won't help much
 
@IGP as I said, he achieved what he wanted....
 
@DaveRandom oh, I thought suspenders are things used to keep one's pants from falling down
 
I mean they were in the 1940s
 
9:20 PM
and the 80's.
 
ah yeh fair comment
my only regret is that I have bonitis
 
At the risk of attempting to 'win' a losing conversation, ladies and gentlemen may I present Dennis Greenidge
 
IGP
I don't know who Dennis Greenidge is but I do know he needs a better mic.
 
@Danack That sounds like it was recorded by carving grooves into a potato.
 
IGP
I'm going afk for a bit.
 
9:27 PM
@MarkR no it sounds like what a assume it is, something recorded through a the built in mic of a tape deck onto a C90
I have sooooooooo many recording of myself that sound like that
in fact it might also be a camcorder onto Hi8
though most of the camcorders I touched had much shitter mics than that
 
@Danack solid
 
@DaveRandom Fine, fine, a fancy potato.
 
just so you know, the last ~1min has been spent trying to find my camcorder, I still have it (my parents' one from when I was like 8) somewhere with a bunch of tapes
 
I would not trust a camcorder with tapes from your parents
 
I estimate 90% of footage will be of really mundane trains
 
9:34 PM
@Danack bwahahahahahahahahahahaha. "the salary of PHP developers halved". Uh huh. Perhaps if you're unhirable. In NYC, the salary has gone up significantly. A good PHP dev can easily break $200k
 
a further 5% will be my dad in the mirror figuring out if it's working
 
Where are these 200k jobs O_O I want one
 
@DaveRandom Exactly what I meant!
 
*my dad, wearing 2-3 anoraks simultaneously
 
@ircmaxell PHP developer salaries are really low in the UK. for various reasons, but including a lot of PHP developers being like that gentleman.
 
9:37 PM
@Danack Even in the US I've never seen a PHP-only salary close to 200k.
 
In somewhat lighter news the UKs version of fox news is being run very professionally warning - blurry arse
 
it took <24hrs for them to read out a comment from "Mike Hunt"
also #GBeebies was trending last night which I enjoyed
 
"Hugh Janus" apparently also.
 
also, and I am not generally one for going after people for their appearance, Andrew Neil looks like molten wax poured over wet concrete poured over a fatberg
 
I'm surprised at the production quality, Andrew Neil has to be one of the most experienced broadcasters on the planet
 
9:49 PM
yeh that's the weirdest thing, it's almost like paxman decided to star in a ukip commercial
 
I suspect though, that give it a few years to iron out the wrinkles and it'll be quite a strong competitor in the market
 
I think I have decided to leave the UK... for a while I was in the mindset of trying to fix shit but I think gtfo is prob the best strategy, I don't wanna be here "in a few years" when you have to queue for cheese with BoJo's face embedded in it
all the while people claiming that is what they were voting for
 
I blame Labour as much as I blame Boris tbh. We have an official opposition that is too busy killing and eating its own if they're not ideologically pure to whatever the issue of the day is
and that's not good for democracy. Johnson should have been utterly crushed
 
party politics is irrelevant
s/irrelevant/a distraction/
I have run out of the energy to argue with people, to the extent that I came so fucking close to keying a guys car the other the day. an environment that leads me to that point is broken enough that I don't know what to do about it other than leave
 
where appeals to you, to move to?
 
9:57 PM
I kinda regret not doing it even now btw, he deserves it and I could have got away with it
@MarkR canada, nz, aus, mainly for linguistic purposes
 
Canzuk does sound appealing on that front
 
I like europe a lot but I don't know how to speak to most people and it's not fair to expect everyone to speak my language
I can read 40%+ of most germanic/latin based languages tho so I'm sure I could work with it pretty quick
I have always disliked being british due to empire guilt which apparently is nowhere near prevalent enough
 
How odd
 
imho, if you are british and do not feel guilt about the empire you were not taught correctly what the word "empire" means and/or how empathy works.
 
I don't feel guilty about it at all. The British empire was gone long before I was born.
 
10:04 PM
no it was and is not.
 
The sun still has not set on the British Empire. Not as long as they have Picarin Island.
 
"the empire" is not about that, it's about the mentality that makes people think they own the world
it's a big part of where brexit came from
it is very much alive, and it is evil.
 
I didn't get that impression about Brexit
 
@DaveRandom You could go to the Neatherland I would imagine?
 
@MarkR what impression did you get?
 
10:09 PM
@MarkR it is not possible for me to respond to this in a non-ranty way, but ftr I personally think that, in that case, you have not looked at it hard enough.
I am kinda fragile on this atm, I basically nearly got into a fight with someone about it the other day and haven't got rid of the emotional hangover yet :-P
 
hug
 
@DaveRandom I mean perspective about Brexit from someone who was in France when it happened, but leave just completely seemed to have dropped the ball, insulting people by clamming everyone who can see some advantages of being outside the EU is a xenophobe ain't doing it chief
 
@Crell <3
 
It is always about trade off, there are advantages about being outside of it, and there a advantages being inside of it, you only hear about the extreme cases from my experience
 
@DaveRandom fyi, my opinion of Australia is that it's far more racist than you'd expect (and far more than the UK) and has even more corrupt politicians. NZ is lovely though.
 
10:12 PM
Yeah Aus is... something
 
@Girgias It's next to impossible to have a rational debate with someone whose position is predicated on lies, and everyone knows it. And rational debaters get frustrated with that very, very quickly. See also: liberals in the US vs Trumper.
 
@Girgias urgh, the way I see it this is addressing the problem like 25yrs too late :-P
 
/me is a huge fan of the Australien government on YouTube.
 
@Crell me vs. majority of my extend family
 
@Danack yeh aus is very much bottom of that list, racism|spiders is not a combo I am huge on
 
10:14 PM
@Crell Obviously, a dude in my year who majored in statistics is a massive Farage fan, and just seems to gobble anything anti-lockdown, brexit related, etc...
 
Don't bring facts to an identity fight.
2
 
omfg that is such a perfect summary of the problem
"everyone is tired of experts" are the words of a fucking cretin
unfortunately, said cretin was in government at the time
 
@DaveRandom Sure, and for the record I don't think the UK being outside the EU is necessarily going to crumble, but it needs to realign its expectations, and I'm fully aware that I don't find this as much of an issue as I've got a British AND German passport so I don't really "care"
 
I somewhat think the world would be a lot better off if we turn the internet off right now. evolution did not built humans to work like this
 
Agreed
 
10:16 PM
I maybe 20% think that atm, but it is increasing
 
Tbf I just bought a book today titles "The People vs Tech | How the internet is killing democracy (and how we can save it)"
Social media is truly terrible
 
@Girgias the UK being outside the EU is a concept I could kinda deal with, but that is not and was never the only thing at stake
 
Humans evolved to deal with groups of 100-200 people. We can't emotionally comprehend 7 billion.

Fun fact: The population of the world in 1000 is roughly the population of the USA in 2000.
With most of that growth coming since 1800.
 
Population rate is slowing though ... I think it still is ...
 
*in the US
 
10:19 PM
@DaveRandom Yeah because its kinda muddy waters but eh
 
so I don;t have numbers to hand but that feels like a statement along the lines of "the pandemic is coming to an end" :-P
 
I just woudn't recommend moving to France in that case... the level of irrationality there is way too high for me
 
@Girgias yeh but does it not worry you that you (someone I know to be very intelligent) cannot even be bothered elaborating on that, yeh we put it to a fucking public vote???
right, drawing a line here because this will get ranty immediately and this is not the right forum
let's talk about PHP :-P
 
Population growth spikes dramatically in a country once it gets modern medicine, because 8/9 kids survive to adulthood instead of 2/9. It takes a generation or two for the people to grok that, then the population growth slows down as people have 2-3 kids.

Then the population growth drops below break-even once women get near-equality, because most countries still treat mothers like shit so who the hell wants that.
@DaveRandom Yes, yes, PHP. Please.
 
10:22 PM
I mean I can talk about W11 I got loads of opinions on that, that's at least closer to the topic at hand :-P
 
Anyone want to help me refine pipes, or finish off is? :-)
 
by pipes you mean fcall pipelines rather than IPC pipes?
I would like the former but I only really have shit to bring to the table on the latter :-P
 
@DaveRandom I'll happily argue with you over it over a pint ;)
 
@DaveRandom I mean the |> RFC that follows partials. :-)
 
@Girgias it's gonna need more than one pint, and tbf I suspect it will be more of a heated agreement, but well up for that :-P <3
 
10:25 PM
@DaveRandom Okay... over glasses of spirits
 
I have a bunch of shrooms in atm
 
But I mean maybe I'll get fed up with the UK, but frankly I'm enjoying it here more then in France atm sooooo
 
it's not so much "fed up" as "sense of impending doom"
 
See, I have that with France
I have no fucking clue how the next round of presidential election in France is going to go
Both "old" two parties are kinda dead
Everyone hates Macron
 
I know very little about french poiitics after blackadder
 
10:28 PM
So most likely we get another second round Macron/Le Pen and I ain't sure Macron will even get the solidarity vote it got last time around so
 
I mean I learned shit from places other than blackadder :-P but revolution is as far as my history lessons went
 
Well you've covered the history of where France mostly relevant :p
 
also I have to point out that is prob the most volatile political system in Europe over the last 500 years :-P
 
Anyway I'm tired, so I'm off to bed, night night
It is lol
 
inhabit o/ x
 
10:35 PM
@Tiffany Brexit was a combination of things... a distrust of Europe (the UK was never an occupied country in WW2, so its culture is different so far as unification goes), plenty of lies from politicians and newspapers, but perhaps more so than anything... desperation to break the status-quo. It was the poorest areas of the country that voted overwhelmingly for Brexit, they saw stagnating wages partly in response to mass eastern-european immigration, and a ruling european class they
couldn't relate to.
G'nite Girgias o/
 
@DaveRandom Have you bandwidth to assist with either of those RFCs? :-)
 
to be brutally honest, I don't care enough about either. pipelines I am on board with, is I am sort of 50/50
maybe 55/45 in favour
tho at the same time @Crell if you need monkey work doing hit me up
like if you just need someone to mindlessly run tests/donate CPU time with moderate effort I am available
also if there is a move to redesign streams off the back of fibers (or just in general) I have a lot to give :-P
 
The main thing I would need is someone to walk me through making some changes/additions, because I'm still lost as soon as I leave language_definition.y. :-)
 
in that case it's a lottery whether I am useful, if you got specific coding tasks I might be able to help :-)
in particular I have explored a lot of the type checking part of the codebase, tho not since the turn of 5/7
 
You may still be useful then. :-) I have to afk for a while, though. Tomorrow morning my time would you be available for a bit?
 
10:47 PM
I am in the office tomorrow in and out of meetings, so reasonable chance I will be around for a bit yeh
also available on twatter DM otherwise :-)
 
on the subject of PHP...
I wrote out pseudo code for something, and tried looking at it a different way, I'm not sure which is better
 
@DaveRandom Spiffy, thanks.
 
:-)
@Tiffany I mean I'm assuming there is an incoming code sample? :-P
 
I have a 90 MB XML file from a Wordpress export. I'm writing a function that finds the slug for a Wordpress post, based on a post ID passed to the function. I've thought of two different ways of finding the slug: loop through the elements of the XML file, expanding on the item element, and finding the wp:post_id element, then comparing the textContent of this element to the argument.
Or, loop through the XML document, looking for the post ID value, and somehow (I haven't determined how I plan to do this yet) determine that it's contained in a wp:post_id element, then proceed with what else I need to do to find the slug. From this point, the two ideas don't deviate
I like the former idea, but expanding on every item element seems bleh... or I may be overthinking it, given that I haven't figured out how I want to go about determining if an int is contained in an element
 
//item[wp:post_id] ?
 
10:55 PM
that works
 
so from the sounds of it you cannot write a thing that resolves the 2nd-level query/post processing in a single query so that feels like as good as it's gonna get
 
I think one of the reasons I was against xpath is because this file has about two or three different namespaces and I was feeling too lazy to register each... though... I think the namespaces are short, so I can probably get away without registering them
 
though namespaces in PHP xpath are clunky af
 
yeaaaah, a coworker and I learned that the hard way over a month ago
 
@Tiffany I'm confident that the ns reg code is shorter than the thinking you are currently doing :-P
@Tiffany you can do cool shit with it though did you mess about with custom funcs?
it's sloooooow but again, still faster than userland
 
10:59 PM
@DaveRandom not sure what that is
 
you can register a PHP function as an named routine to use directly in an xpath query
 
o_O
 
like you can have a query with foo[php:strlen(.) = 5]
(you have to register the arbitrary php namespace and all the arbitrary funcs individually)
 
again o_O
 
inorite
xpath is a powerful tool that you (and I) use maybe 5% of :-P
 
11:02 PM
I'll have to give my brain time to process that because I'm having a đŸ€Ż moment
 
libxml2 only supports a tiny fraction of the spec as well
 
unrelated, but figuring out logic on a whiteboard with different color dry erase markers, especially whiteboards that are about the size of an A4 piece of paper is amazing for my brain
 
winning with "whiteboards the size of A4 paper" instead of "A4 paper" tho <3
 
ok I just got off work and had to go back for a bit:
 
I'm used to calling it 8.5" by 11"... I had to google what size of A* paper it was
 
11:14 PM
> if Trongate is not using third party libraries, could you please provide a white paper on your encryption methodology?
> There are two key strategies for keeping the Trongate ecosystem safe. The first is, during the build process I've been live streaming on YouTube, usually eight to fifteen hours per day. So, there's not really any secrets or anything mysterious going on under the hood. What I'm doing is there for all to see.

My second key strategy, for which I'm hoping to receive government funding, involves telling other PHP developers that their framework of choice is bullschitt
I giggled a bit
 
I kinda wanna ask for a source but also do not wanna click that link
@Tiffany there is a size referred to as "letter" which I think is basically the same
 
@DaveRandom somewhere in this clusterfuck
2 hours ago, by Danack
@FĂ©lixGagnon-Grenier apparently he used to be big in the codeignitor community before going off the deepend: https://en.reddit.com/r/PHP/comments/nzyu81/trongate_php_is_ready_to_drop_check_this_out_you/h1w8d17/
 
ah yeh that has the context of a demonstrably not-sane person tho :-P
 
Are you talking about Dan or Felix?
 
@DaveRandom he's quickly turning into the chrischan of php...
framework author, that is
 
11:21 PM
@PeeHaa talking about OP... the whole thing reads like a thing that I would have written shortly before I exploded
 
@DaveRandom So Dan? Yeah I agree
:P
 
of the release post :-P Dan is definitely not sane, but to be fair to him I was the one who bailed on him this wkend
 
Dan is not sane and you are a dick. Got it
:D
 
not gonna argue with either of those points
 
hehehehehe
 
11:24 PM
omfg man the do I went to this wkend would have been up your alley I think, I had (at least) 21 pints and 3 shots of rum on sat
that's what's on the ledger that someone kept pretty religiously until ~1am
(was a stag do)
 
@DaveRandom You just described my Monday morning
 
@PeeHaa I know the guy is legendary. that part, especially, made me understand what all this is about.
 
not sure I'll ever get used to hearing "do" as a colloquialism for "party"
 
I turned up with nothing because those are bad vibes for me
 
@Tiffany what definition of "do" is not a party?
 
11:26 PM
hair?
 
^
 
hairdo
 
woa
I have no idea what's going on, I love it
I'll drink more I guess
 
@FĂ©lixGagnon-Grenier google.com/search?q=hairdo
@FĂ©lixGagnon-Grenier I legimately though "the do" from "...man the do I went to this wkend..." was a typo
 
11:29 PM
@PeeHaa I have had some kind of flicker of hope. they seem to see the external gaze of humans as a positive thing for security. maybe building on that we can reach some kind of "yeah now you need that on your code for 10 years"
 
granted, I'm used to hearing "do the dew" from mountain dew advertisements from years ago
 
hmmm, montain dew
I miss the days where we would troll main with a rebecca question
any 10k+ around can find some screenshots?
 
the closest I get to soda lately is pouring flavored syrups from @Trowski's online store into carbonated water from my sodastream
 
you are such a hipster Tiffany
 
@Tiffany yeh, not a great slogan in a welsh accent
 
11:32 PM
reminds me, I need to buy more... I ran out a couple months ago
 
(where a hard D tends to sound a bit like a J...)
 
oh gods
@DaveRandom y'all got bent tools?
 
idk I never asked them about their sexuality tbh
 
not sure if that joke is OK, "bent" feels like it has enough vitriol behind it that it may not be OK, sorry if anyone is upset by that
 
11:35 PM
hmm, I do not understand. bent means something like a metal bar that was bent, like a corner, correct?
if it has other innuendo, I am indeed sorry about that.
 
@FĂ©lixGagnon-Grenier dictionary.com/browse/bent #4 under adjective
 
it might be a bit of a britishism, it is historically (like 1970s) a derogatory term for a homosexual person
 
oh my gods.
yeah that is not, and I cannot emphasize that enough, what I was having in mind.
 
yeh I am 100% sure of that and never took it that way :-P <3
 
11:40 PM
mainly you are the victim of a poor joke with lazy cultural touchstones
 
I think I'll go back to the Dyson Sphere Project :P
 
@DaveRandom it's been awhile since I worked with DOMXPath and I just realized it requires a DOMDocument
 
if anyone would like to purchase further poor jokes with lazy cultural touchstones, I am available for hire
 
need to load a 90 MB XML file into DOMDocument D:
 
@Tiffany yeh, you can't query a thing that doesn't exist ;-)
 
11:42 PM
@DaveRandom I'll keep in touch :P
 
think of the document as a database and xpath as a way to query the indexes that were built when you parsed it
 
wonder if I could just use the parent node of <item>
 
@Tiffany in xpath2, //item/..[stuff]
finds all parent nodes of <item> where the parent has a stuff="" attribute
 
it'll be a long while before DOMXPath supports xpath 2 though :(
 
...unfortunately, PHP cannot do this :-P
@Tiffany yeh but sometimes you just have to throw shit into node...
 
11:45 PM
I remember a recently closed bug regarding a request for xpath 2 support
 
the bug needs to be filed against libxml2
though also, we really should have a SAX parser in PHP, in 2021 :-/
*free
I just ran off the end of The Lightning Seeds/Like You Do, and for once I am not turning off Three Lions... even I am susceptible ffs
also btw 30 years of hurt is now 55 lol
 
hey are there dijkstra implementations for more than a plane coordinate system?
you can google, Félix
yeah but that's not what I want to know, I want to know if folks in this chat have done them
 
holy crap are you actually doing dyson math?
 
I don't think I am anywhere near good enough to do that :P
but er, yeah, I'll try and start with small steps :P
 
I definitely do not understand the math necessary to intuitively conceptualise angles on the inside of a sphere :-P
brb going to watch the ep of TNG with scottie in :-P (this is how I deal with life, shut up)
 
11:54 PM
@DaveRandom <3
 
ftr I have spent some time thinking about this topic, and not sure whether this is bollocks: it doesn't matter how efficient your solar PV is if you can wrap the whole star, because every reflected light ray never escapes and just hits a different panel, the only real problems you have are heat dissipation and people who can't see you crashing into you
those are both pretty big problems but if you can wrap a whole star they are presumably solvable
 
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