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8:00 PM
It's also true that I was WAY more into drugs at the time.
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Probably unrelated.
 
@Sara but it was during a conference?
 
8:31 PM
Okay. Arm twisted. I'm here. ;-)
 
@ramsey welcome back :P
From your recommendation, I now own three Keychron boards...
 
Nice
I have the bluetooth one with optical switches, but I'm thinking of using drop.com for my next one. They have some hotswappable mechanical switches
 
Keychron has hot swappable switches too, but it may depend on the board. I haven't tried swapping out switches yet.
 
ohai @ramsey :)
 
The only ones I saw were the optical ones that were hotswappable at Keychron. I'll have to look again. I haven't swapped anything yet because they're always out of stock of switches.
Hey, @jo
I can't do this chat program well... @JoeWatkins
there we go
 
8:39 PM
YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT CUSTOM KEYBOARDS?!?
In the middle of a build right now.
 
I know. I gave in to the hipster fad
 
Me too.
I am doing a 75% keyboard
@ramsey I have the case, brass plate (for weight), brass bottom plate (again, for weight), PCB (solder version) <-- from KBDFans, I order GMK switches that will be delivered in November... in the meantime I bought some PBT doubleshot ones off Amazon from a company called Happy Balls. O_o
I bought Novelkeys cream switches and have already lubed and filmed them.
 
The K3 that I have from Keychron is a 75% layout
 
The last piece is my cherry stabs
I bought some Durock v1s but found out about a defect with them which would cause a significant issue, so I returned them for the v2s.
 
I have a problem in that I keep hitting the up arrow instead of the right shift key, because the shift key is smaller than I'm used to
 
8:43 PM
Hmm... I was a little worried about the compact version but we will see.
I may want to go to the 1800 compact version... or just a full size keyboard.
@ramsey tbh, I'm not sure if I am more excited about building it or actually using it.
I'm afraid the luster will fade once I finish building it and use it for a few days. =D
@PeeHaa o/
 
@ramsey yeah, that's one reason why I stick with full-size boards: both because I want a numpad and I don't want to deal with the smaller right-shift
 
@StatikStasis Oi! o/
 
I've already gone through one smaller right-shift keyboard, but it had a European layout, so the right enter was gigantic, the backslash was moved next to the right-shift, and the right-shift was smaller :(
 
@Tiffany I'm actually combating that part by building a second, smaller custom board which includes some knobs. It's called the Knob Goblin (which sounds like a risky Google search when you hear it.) Here is the link to the actual product... I'm waiting for Round 2: knob-goblin.com/products/knob-goblin-unsoldered-diy-kit
 
The Apple magic keyboard is basically a 75% with the up/down arrow keys taking up only a single key width, and that's what I was used to. :-) store.storeimages.cdn-apple.com/4974/as-images.apple.com/is/…
 
8:49 PM
I've actually contemplated about being real lazy and building a third specialty keyboard just to create custom macros for common phrases I type a lot such as "Thanks!" ...yeah I know.
 
The Knob Goblin looks pretty cool
 
My dad uses a huge programmable keypad for the same reason @StatikStasis
 
I don't know what I'd use it for, but it'd be fun to play with
 
I thought so too. I've been looking into the process of buying PCBs straight from manufacturers and what all it in tales to create a custom board from scratch. Very interesting hobby indeed.
 
There's one he uses that also has programmable LED keycaps
 
8:51 PM
My stabilizers get here Friday. I plan on streaming the entire build process. //cc @PeeHaa =P
 
Oooh
I guess you could swap that keyboard in and out of different configurations easily (i.e., QWERTY to Dovorak, etc.)
 
@Tiffany Yay! I won't be alone.
They actually have layers, so you can use hotkeys to switch to a different layer if you want.
 
@ramsey Would only find that useful if you share it with a Polish room mate
 
I would like to have keys that are programmable like my Streamdeck so the keys themselves change depending on the action assigned to it.
Even the keycap display changes.
 
Yeah, that's how his is
I don't remember where he got it, I'll have to ask him some time
 
9:01 PM
I've had enough of computers for today, nn all
 
9:11 PM
Night, @JoeWatkins
 
9:22 PM
ohai @ramsey o/
 
Hi, @DaveRandom
 
I would love for someone to give me a basic intro to custom keyboards, every time I look at them I am either overwhelmed with very technical info or looking at websites with pictures and very little text
I just want something I can beat the living shit out of (esp. the return key), is that so much to ask? :-P
 
9:40 PM
Update docs for php8 ・ SPL related ・ #81014
 
@DaveRandom Just get a cheap one so you can keep buying them instead :)
 
yeh I mean that is my current approach, I have at least 4 logitech mk330 sets in varying states of disrepair
 
@Jeeves a PR would've taken the same amount of time as opening a bug report, but a PR would've resolved the bug
 
10:02 PM
that happens a lot with docs
I regularly wonder why, people always used to say "the online editor is too intimidating" but biw you can github PR, so maybe there's a problem with disseminating that fact?
phd is also big and scary and to some extent docbook, but text changes like that...
it's not like it's particularly "easy" to submit a PHP bug...
 
@DaveRandom you can even make text changes straight from GitHub...
 
one does have to find the correct location though, just been looking at it, that part could deffo be easier
would be nice if there were somehow per-section edit links that send you to the right file
(a page is not always one file)
 
It does require some acclimating, but I don't think it's that over-the-top of a learning curve
I mean, arguably, becoming a programmer has a higher learning curve
@DaveRandom I will agree to that.
 
@Tiffany no indeed, but if you are a drive-by user noticing a random problem it needs to be as easy/easier to submit an edit than a bug
 
Probably need phd to generate the right link
 
10:09 PM
breifly-helpful people typically have a very low pain threshold :-P
@Tiffany yeh but it shouldn't bee too hard to basically just stick https://guhtub.com/php/doc-en/edit/master/... or whatever on the beginning of the current source file and shove it in an attribute
 
guhtub, lol
 
@DaveRandom You can watch my stream when I build mine. =) I'll let you know when it's done.
 
bee too hard
 
@DaveRandom yeah, maybe something I'll have a look at. Trying to convince my employer to allow open-source as a volunteering option. My boss is going to ask for me.
 
@StatikStasis ftr I want a full keyboard with a num pad, I and I am not kidding when I say I beat the crap out of it, people regularly comment that I appear to hate keyboards
I love a decisive enter stroke
we had some cheapo mouse/keyboard sets that came with a batch of refurb PCs a few months ago, I was typing on one in the office and the Q key came flying off and hit the girl working on the desk next to me in the eye, genuinely quite dangerous (she was surprised but fine)
@Tiffany pretty sure your employer would fall into the category of "entities that share responsibility for the maintenance of PHP" anyway :-P (in that they make money in large part because it exists)
 
10:22 PM
@Tiffany What company is this, if you don't mind saying? (Dave seems to know, so seems like you shared in the past)
 
@LeviMorrison I've told him privately. I'm not sure if I've said publicly.
 
idk if I do know who they are actually, but I know enough about what they do to make that statement :-P
 
@LeviMorrison DM'd (Twitter)
 
though also @Tiffany I think it's OK to publicly name your employer which you like working for and pay taxes for which (I think?) is a matter of public record :-P
mine is in my twitter profile ffs :-P
though also whatever :-)
 
I'm waiting until the impostor syndrome is less severe
 
10:29 PM
not sure that ever ends
I'm still going strong
 
 
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11:40 PM
@DaveRandom Too hard? You're brilliant- or at least you seem to be in this room. The keyboard stuff is child's play.
These are quality keyboards- might be just what you need that can stand the abuse. =P
 
@DaveRandom IIRC, the issue was with translations where you don't know if the file is present in the repo or if it's pulling the EN version
 

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