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10:00 PM
^^
 
Perhaps, but doesn't github also do SVN?
 
no, they do git ^^
that's why it's called github after all :)
 
they provide SVN access, sure
 
What's git (real questions)? In short?
 
10:01 PM
Ah yeah they do I see now, but I thought their main focus was making sure developers would all have access to the same files, synced.
I just need some personal space to store my snippets - no syncing or anything like that needed. And maybe a to-do list of sorts, that's all.
Don't you think GitHub would be overcomplicated for simple things like that?
 
@Chris only if you let it be.
 
Well, an abundance if features usually makes accomplishing the simple tasks a little less easy, wouldn't you agree? I don't personally have any experience with GitHub, but it seems too much for this..
 
@Chris I think you're being too dismissive. Github can work for you, probably far better than anything you might find that only allows uploading a snippet and having comments.
 
Perhaps I am, but am I not also required to install additional software to make use of GitHub, as explained here: help.github.com/win-set-up-git ?
 
Of course, github's core role is to host your git repositories. Without using git (or svn) it doesn't make much sense. Though you might just use gist.github.com
 
10:12 PM
Anyone in here has experience with using cURL?
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8750358/getting-the-redirect-url-using-curl
 
@PeeHaa Why do you want to manually follow the redirects?
 
@PeeHaa Looking at it now. But it looks like you want CURLOPT_MAXREDIRS
 
@salathe I want to be able to track all information of all redirects. Or will that also be possible by using:
CURLOPT_FOLLOWLOCATION
?
 
@PeeHaa "all information" ?
 
10:16 PM
Yes!
uhhhm maybe
:o
Did I overlook something?
 
@PeeHaa Why?
 
Should I bow my head in shame?
 
@PeeHaa Sorry, I mean... what information do you need?
 
because curl_getinfo() only gets the effective URI (i.e. the current URL), but I want to get the URL to which we are going to be redirected
 
In case you prefer PHP stream API: hakre.wordpress.com/2011/09/17/head-first-with-php-streams - including numbering of the redirects and their response headers.
 
10:17 PM
I don't think it is in curl_getinfo()
@hakre well I'm just trying some stuff out (always gotta learn more about anything :) ). Should I get head first into streams?
I see it uses file_get_contents is this madatory?
@hakre
 
you don't particularly use the HEAD request (but you can if you don't need the final body)
 
I also need the final body :(
 
Then use a GET request (default)
 
is it only file_get_contents()?
 
it's with stream context options.
 
10:21 PM
Hey all
 
Exemplary GET request, one redirect: codepad.viper-7.com/KEBfzD
 
Hey Brendon
 
Anyone in here familiar at all with Joomla?
Hi PeeHaa!
 
@BrendonDugan I only know that it... neh nevermind. No I don't ;)
 
10:24 PM
Awesome. Just got my first Careers 2.0 employer contact. :)
 
Nice!
Congrats @Charl
 
@hakre lemme fav that post
 
@CharlesSprayberry
Well kids, I'm off in search of someone who knows about Joomla development!
 
hey guys
 
hi there
 
10:28 PM
what is technology used here? node.js?
it is kinda neat
 
on chat?
 
@BrendonDugan: What do you want to know. Joomla is a wide field.
 
@Confidence yes, we're all node developers.
 
E.g. the password hashes it offers for auth by default?
 
i mean in chat here....it seems quick and stable
 
10:29 PM
@Confidence jQuery
 
nice...and backend is mysql?
 
I think the chat here uses unicorns and rainbows.
 
@BrendonDugan Well, oddly you have found someone
 
@salathe You gotta have those
 
@PeeHaa Can't have a stable chat without them!
 
10:30 PM
@salathe that was my second guess ^_^
 
@Confidence knowing JeffAtwood it is something microsoft. MSSQL
 
@hakre, I am trying to develop a relatively simple module for Joomla 1.7, but I can't find any decent documentatio
 
@BrendonDugan Their wiki has nothing to start with?
 
@ircmaxell Lucky day!
 
any symfony2 guys here?
 
10:32 PM
@hakre, Most of the documentation they provide leaves out minute but super-important details
like that Joomla modules don't handle scope the way php does
 
huh?
 
@BrendonDugan variable scope?
I guess you want to access something?
 
I'm not familiar with 1.7... I haven't done anything significant with it since 1.5
 
I ended up with an issue while writing this module for Joomla 1.5 where using the same name inside a function as outside of that class actually assigned the value to it twice
 
@salathe thanks for helping me out!
 
10:34 PM
So basically it was treating all variables as global
@ircmaxell all of the tutorials online seem to be for 1.5, but 1.7 has changed pretty drastically
 
I quit the project before 1.6 came out, so no help from me there
 
lol
Were you a Joomla developer for 1.5?
 
@ircmaxell Which one are you??
 
@ircmaxell "including a private pilot's license"
 
10:39 PM
@NikiC yup
That's such a bad picture too
 
lol
no worries
 
@ircmaxell what does that mean (i.e. what can you fly)?
 
@ircmaxell I was actually gonna mention how much more formal and elegant you look in your current avatar ;)
 
I like how cute and cuddly I look in my current avatar.
 
@NikiC Any airplane with a single engine and wheels
 
10:40 PM
Well kids, it's quitting time for today
 
@CharlesSprayberry :-D
 
@ircmaxell There are planes with only one engine?
 
lol
:)
 
I thought they all have at least two (unless one's on fire)
 
@NikiC Yes there are but not allowed for commercial passenger operations.
 
10:41 PM
That's one of the ones I used to fly a lot..
 
aah, you mean that kind of planes
nice, nice
So many secrets about you :P
 
Indeed. I've flown before but I'll bet its nothing like actually piloting...
@NikiC If its on the internet it isn't a secret! ;)
 
@NikiC There are more. But not for today ;-)
 
First the firefighter thing and now pilot :P
 
@CharlesSprayberry Rolltide.
 
10:43 PM
@ircmaxell :D
 
Honestly, there's one lesson from flight school that I still carry with me today: Nobody will ever expect you to know everything. But you must know how to find it out...
 
@ircmaxell You don't by chance also operate nuclear submarines ?
 
ircmaxell's blog: The MicroPHP Fallacy: http://bit.ly/wT9OMK
@NikiC No, but one time I did get to press the launch button for a Nuclear missile...
 
@LeviMorrison ROLL TIDE! Bama fan?
 
@CharlesSprayberry there are things about me that are not on the internet...
 
10:45 PM
@ircmaxell I would hope so!
 
@ircmaxell hum?
@ircmaxell Damned. That far I didn't get.
 
@CharlesSprayberry I served a mission for my church in lower Alabama and the panhandle of Florida. I've never met people as religiously devout as the 'Bama fans are for the Crimson Tide.
 
@NikiC Granted, there was no missile in the tube, and the button was disconnected, and the plane was on the ground, and the plane had no engines...
 
@ircmaxell lol
 
@ircmaxell That's still pretty impressive, as long as the plane isn't open to the public.
 
10:47 PM
@LeviMorrison It was
 
@ircmaxell Impressive? Or open to the public?
 
@LeviMorrison It is a different way of life in Alabama that's for sure. I spent about 18 years in Alabama, near Auburn actually.
 
It's one of those things that sounds far more impressive than it actually is
@LeviMorrison open to the public
 
@LeviMorrison: Is your avatar picture available in photo size?
 
@hakre I'm unsure. It's actually not my kitten. It's provided courtesy of placekitten.com I think I used placekitten.com/g/128/128
 
10:49 PM
Btw, you know that Russians do pretty much anything for money
 
ok, I'm heading home
later and good night
 
For example you can fly in a supersonic military jet
 
PHP is a very forward-looking website, they created the yearly URLs for the years to come already, like: php.net/2012
 
That must be really nice
 
@hakre I wanted to use placekitten.com/g/64/64 because its so cute, but I couldn't find it in higher resolution.
 
10:52 PM
Not to spam my question but if anybody could help (or come up with a more suitable title) that would be amazing
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8750354/file-update-multiple-times-depending-on-viewers-and-i-dont-want-it-to
 
@LeviMorrison ooooooh
 
Sadly I'm allergic to kittens :(
 
@LeviMorrison :(
 
Those little cuty kittie katties
meouw
I don't get the URL design of that kitten page
How to get a specific image in a specific size?
 
10:56 PM
@hakre /width/height or /g/width/height where g means greyscale
 
@HowdyMcGee haven't you asked that question previously? That site looks familiar?
 
@LeviMorrison so much for the size. But if I change the size, the image will change ?!
 
@hakre Yes :( This means I can't get that cuddly 64x64 at 3200x3200 :(
 
Yeah with a different question but as I progressed (and it worked) I ran across a differnet problem completely out of my scope
 
@HowdyMcGee :)
@HowdyMcGee so the problem is that the counter gets incremented when using multiple browsers on the same machine?
 
11:00 PM
 
Yeah, and all this does not work here: placekitten.com/attribution.html
 
and different machines
so as it seems both machines are writing to the file and updating +2 every second
if you have 3 it will update +3 every second
Once my server is back up im going to try to place it in a database to see if that helps but I think I'll have the same problem
 
@HowdyMcGee correct me if wrong, but it looks to me you have a starttime and a number of seconds after the start time. (afterstarttime-starttime)*some_number == number of saved kitties since starttime?
 
lolwut?
I start onload and have setinterval() set to a second
 
uhu
 
11:05 PM
:/
 
Hello
 
well i g2g, I might have to just go onto a javascript date count up script or something :(
 
There are still some answers on my to-vote list @NikiC
@salathe: Can you explain your comment here? stackoverflow.com/a/8216673/367456
I don't understand what it means.
 
Well hello there!
I have a bit of a weird question
Learning PHP, ROR and Perl better than learning C++, C and C#
Job wise
 
What kind of job?
 
11:16 PM
Web development/software engineering
Just like, are there more jobs in one or the other
Whats paid better, etc
 
@HarryBeasant I think that's too localized to be answered. Gonna be too dependent on too many different variables.
 
Okay, in your opinion
 
@HarryBeasant Generally speaking, Software Engineering seems to pay more than Web Development.
 
And software engineering requires c++, c and c# generally
Whereas web is more PHP, JS, Jquery etc
 
@HarryBeasant You can write websites in C. Doesn't SO use C# in their stack?
 
11:19 PM
@HarryBeasant Or Java. There are lots of existing applications in Java, although I think the number of new projects that choose Java as their language is dwindling.
 
Everything that accepts and then pushes some bytes out via HTTP is able to do webdevelopment.
 
What's the most sought after language?
 
You should probably learn Scala.
 
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Scala is a good language to learn?
 
What is scala based on?
Java
?
 
> Scala is a general purpose programming language designed to express common programming patterns in a concise, elegant, and type-safe way. It smoothly integrates features of object-oriented and functional languages, enabling Java and other programmers to be more productive. Code sizes are typically reduced by a factor of two to three when compared to an equivalent Java application.
IIRC it's been designed with academic input and had(?) some relation to java somehow, probably it's VM.
For webdevelopment there is already some framework available.
 
i see
thanks
What language do you specialise in?
 
@hakre If you pass by ref an unitialized var or offset it will be initd to null
@hakre and you really keep a to-vote list? óÒ
 
@NikiC: Not really ;)
 
11:32 PM
Good evening everyone, what's up?
 
@NikiC okay, that's what I wondered about. But it's really a good question why there isn't some language construct that will offer a default value if var is undefined. That would be really useful.
 
good eve dear sirs and madams
 
evening
 
@hakre Maybe :)
there was a proposal once i think
declined for some reason
 
brb pushups
 
11:43 PM
what about python? there are some good framewords for webdev and it is easy to learn
actually i really enjoy using python, though i am not using it for webdevelopment yet due to the limitations of the webspaces i currently use
 
Hey all, on ubuntu with apache, lets say a request is sent to server to load a page, which apache log would this be dsplayed in and typically under which directory?
 
@JohnMerlino It's in the general log directory.
 
but arent there multiple logs like error logs, etc
which log would report a basic http verb request
like GET or POST
 
I think its access.log
 
im in /etc/apache2 on ubuntu
 
11:56 PM
They aren't in /etc/apache2
I think they are in /var/log/apache2
 
access log is empty
 

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