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14:00
oh come on unstar that dammit
it's a repost :P
user784668
@BartekBanachewicz I can only untar it.
Standard operating procedure.
would you get better performance running a virtual machine from the 7200 RPM hard drive while Windows is installed on a different hard drive or would you better performance installing all windows on a 7200 sata drive or should I set the page file to the 72 RPM hard drive
user784668
@BartekBanachewicz You diss yourself: instastar.
14:00
@FredMcgiff 72RPM way to go
Xeo
Xeo
Dec 4 '12 at 2:00, by Xeo
If you want public self-deprecation, write "I suck." exactly like that and we'll star it.
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@Xeo I missed the dot, let me correct
That 72RPM hard drive might make a good frisbee
user1357851
@kbok coffee there is expensive ... 4 euro for a cappuccino & that was 5 years ago ...
I don't think my employer will charge for coffee.
14:01
hahah
speaking of that, I need another tea
user784668
I'm gonna hg commit -m "Changed exactly nothing."
@Telkitty It's more like 6 now
user1357851
workplace coffee usually is crappy
Change workplace.
It's like the single most expensive place in France so what did you expect
14:02
Not at my job
We have amazing coffee
running a virtual machine from the 7200 RPM hard drive performance might improve?
user784668
Run a virtual machine from a virtual machine to improve performance's performance.
Xeo
Xeo
Sep 11 '12 at 13:04, by Xeo
@TonyTheLion We'll seize any and all opportunities to star self-deprecating messages.
There was the message I was looking for
Run the VM on a different drive then your host OS for best performace, allthough CPU power etc is much more important
I suck.
14:04
On what?
Run the damn VM from RAM.
@R.MartinhoFernandes That is quite epic, in theory
What? It's not the 640s sixties anymore.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Do you have 20 GB RAM spare?
Because where I work no server can just miss 20 GB
What do you need 20GB for
14:06
what about my pagefile it will be wise setting that to a different hard drive
lol, guys in my room moved our humidity controller on a top shelf
I have 16 gig RAM
total
user784668
@CatPlusPlus porn
Apparently those 20GB are more important than running the VMs faster. Can't fight that.
now we have an epic cloud of steam
14:07
@FredMcgiff Make a 15 GB VM in the RAM, lay back and watch the epicness
I need more ram.
way more.
Xeo
Xeo
Download it
@BartekBanachewicz There is no such thing as enough RAM
I was a fucking cheapskate and thought 8GB will be nuff
Page file is nigh useless with 16GB of RAM fyi
14:08
and it is, until you want ramdisks
user784668
I have 4 GB.
user784668
Kids these days…
Xeo
Xeo
I have 2
ah, LWG finally got to accepting the interesting library papers
Xeo
Xeo
Suckers
user784668
14:09
@Xeo One of my machines has 96.
user784668
MB.
N3545 accepted
user784668
It's still in use, kinda.
@Xeo my phone has 2GB
I have 8 and a SSD. I feel fine.
Allthough I put my //tmp directory in my RAM
14:10
You're saying the page file are useless even if you have total 4 VM's running simultaneously plus aftereffects does the pagefile become useful then
Well, have you seen ubuntu phone promo?
I have 6 and no SSD. I feel like I was robbed because I don't get to use all the transistors I paid for.
Which uses 4gb, so I might want more.
they say that a phone like S3 or N4 can power a desktop
N3644 moved into working paper
14:11
each VM is being run from a different hard drive
Xeo
Xeo
@DeadMG Wazzat?
@FredMcgiff when system starts swapping to disk you lost already
@Xeo Default-constructed forward (or better) iterators are now officially an empty range, rather than UB to do anything with.
user784668
@BartekBanachewicz With default configuration of most mainstreams OSes, this amounts to "when the system boots, you lost already".
@BartekBanachewicz Most of my desktops have been slower than virtually any phone you can find any more -- many of them a lot slower.
14:12
@DeadMG :S
user784668
3 mins ago, by Fanael
Kids these days…
@JerryCoffin And the video says exactly that. Watch it, it's only 2mins. Or lemme post here
@BartekBanachewicz Don't be so pessimistic. Lots of programs have shit in RAM they barely use, so some things can be swapped out without consequences
std::exchange(), like atomic_exchange but not atomic and generic, moved into working paper
14:13
@Cheiron The consequence is that it'll have to be swapped back in at some point
Xeo
Xeo
@DeadMG That's nice
It is?
I'm trying to think of a use for it.
14:15
@CatPlusPlus and swapping it out in the first place takes time too
@R.MartinhoFernandes Some in unique_ptr implementation were motivating example.
user784668
@BartekBanachewicz
indices voted into working paper
@DeadMG "in unique_ptr implementation" :(
That's not a motivating example.
@Fanael hah, that's obvious, no? :)
14:16
@jalf Less than swapping everything in and waiting forever because you closed the program and it HAS TO FREE ALL OF ITS MEMORY
@BartekBanachewicz I want to see big important changes, not minor stuff I can write in three lines and will never need.
user784668
@DeadMG What? In Hell++ unique_ptr is implemented in brainfuck.
Swapping out happens more incrementally :v:
@CatPlusPlus sure
but not swapping at all happens instantly ;)
I need an unsigned float, goddammit
14:16
@R.MartinhoFernandes Generic lambdas already went through
@Cheiron No you don't
accessing tuples by type voted into working paper
@CatPlusPlus Now I need a check on the setter, which I do not want
But when some groups talk of papers wasting their time, it's annoying to see time wasted with these low-gain nits.
14:17
@Cheiron unsigned fixed would be ok
user784668
@Cheiron DEAL WITH IT!
Unsigned types are mostly useful for bit fiddling
user784668
@BartekBanachewicz fixed's not float
@Fanael no shit, sherlock
There are no unsigned floats, nobody needs that, forget about it
14:18
std::mismatch, std::equal, std::is_permutation given another overload which defines begin and end for second sequence so the size can be checked
user784668
@BartekBanachewicz yes shit, watson
@Fanael I refuse to deal with it. Instead, I will start a revolution. Who's in?
user784668
@Cheiron nobody, not even you
Hey, that's my thing.
lol
@Cheiron Hmm...I think if I look around, I probably still have some VHDL I wrote for unsigned FP adder and multiplier (never finished the divider).
user784668
14:20
@ScottW visual brainfuck?
@JerryCoffin Well the problem is that a signed float would be slow as goddamn hell.
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Q: Why doesn't C have unsigned floats?

Nils PipenbrinckI know, the question seems to be strange. Programmers sometimes think too much. Please read on... In C I use signed and unsigned integers a lot. I like the fact that the compiler warns me if I do things like assigning a signed integer to an unsigned variable. I get warnings if I compare signed w...

"(...) will be slow (...)" — famous last words
14:22
make_unique<T> and make_unique<T[]> voted into working paper, no allocate_unique or anything
user784668
@R.MartinhoFernandes My program spends 99.99% time in GetMessageW, how can I optimize it?
@Fanael Delete it
I thought gists oneboxed.
My program used to spend 99% of its time in cin. How I fixed it? I learned to type faster.
Xeo
Xeo
gist.io, wasn't it?
user784668
14:24
@R.MartinhoFernandes bloat
@Cheiron Essentially all existing FP hardware is signed. The unsigned ones I wrote were essentially identical in speed to signed.
user784668
@R.MartinhoFernandes int main(){} would be much faster.
@Fanael Good - it's already optimized.
@Fanael Send a PR.
Xeo
Xeo
My program spends 100% of its time within itself - halp.
14:26
quoted strings voted into working paper
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ouch, no pull requests from gist web interface
@BartekBanachewicz Gists are for small stuff.
@Xeo "My program is an introvert" ?
@R.MartinhoFernandes meh. They are full git repos.
@BartekBanachewicz Pull requests are not a git feature.
14:27
@R.MartinhoFernandes ... crap
I've added a newline at the end of file
user784668
@MartinJames of course, see sarcasm maybe?
I wanted to create a patch
@Fanael No - I just got back from eating lunch. Didn't read the earlier posts :(
Fuck whitespace pullreqs forever
@TonyTheLion The bit a the top ("Can I ask programming-related questions in the chat?")
14:28
@CatPlusPlus Who does that
@kbok anti-tab league
user784668
@ScottW get used to it
@BartekBanachewicz What a bunch of morons
@ScottW so, anything new?
@ScottW You're getting no prize for that.
14:29
I think I'm gonna pull the sequence bits out of ogonek into its own repo.
It's like step 4 of Eclipse's "Getting Started" tutorial.
Step 5 is "quit programming"
Also I am writing my first ES3 test!
Yay!
user784668
@CatPlusPlus fucking is better than programming
Please vendors implement ES3 faster please oh please.
14:31
ES3?
OGL?
YES
Adreno 320 already supports it
user784668
@R.MartinhoFernandes wow, a clean implementation of small_vector, real nice
Oh my god I am so victory
> OpenGL ES 3.0, 2.0 & 1.1, OpenCL 1.2, OpenVG 1.1, EGL 1.4, Direct3D feature level 9_3, SVGT 1.2, Direct Draw and GDI
Allright guys, Eclipse or NetBeans?
Xeo
Xeo
vim
14:33
@Cheiron Eclipse is the least bad of the two.
None of them are good, however.
@Cheiron for Java netbeans, for C++ neither (QT creator?)
vim >> anything/
@Fanael Hmm, yeah, I might pull that out to a separate repo as well when I write more robust tests.
@ScottW Yup - it's 'Fail Friday'. No live music tonight and I left Anne to cut up the fish for our lunch - I got the thin end :(
user784668
@Cheiron Of these two? Eclipse. The tl;dr is "use vim" anyway.
14:34
I can't wait until I run glewinfo on my N4
Minicraft is totally coming to android soon.
user784668
@BartekBanachewicz Minicrap?
@Fanael hey! :(
@Fanael It does make several assumptions based on my current intended use, which is another reason I haven't made it a separate thing yet.
@Fanael No, that's for PDP/VAX. The Android version is MicroCrap.
user784668
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, I notice. Like clear sometimes being clear(); shrink_to_fit();.
14:36
lol, robot: did you know Fedora considered Unicode in their distro name. A particularly tasty episode:
> But Peter Jones found a compromise solution and posted a patch changing Schrödinger's Cat to Schrödinger’s Cat in the affected files. The two strings may not look too different (in fact, depending on one's font, they may look identical), but the second replaces the "typewriter apostrophe" character at Unicode point U+0027 to the "punctuation apostrophe" at U+2019. The typewriter apostrophe is interpreted as a shell quote character, but the punctuation apostrophe is not.
> Rarely do the differences in Unicode's byzantine slate of similar code points solve more problems than they create —just look at curly- versus straight-quotes in HTML, for example—but in this case, the change allowed /etc/os-release to work once again
user784668
@sehe *nixes suck at unicode, nothing new
@sehe Oh, I had read that before in their issue tracker IIRC.
"Waah we're bad at programming"
@R.MartinhoFernandes Very fun stuff
user784668
14:38
@sehe murricans suck at realising there are other languages than ASCII-English, nothing new
Someone mentioned it on the Unicode mailing list some weeks ago.
> 6 characters minimum, start and end with a letter (a-z, A-Z), contain numbers, no special characters and has no more than 2 repeating characters
wat.
user784668
@sehe I want to see a Ubuntu version named "Żółty Żółw".
@BartekBanachewicz a123456z.
14:39
> Paul Flo Williams predicted someone proposing "Motörhead's Moshpit" as the Fedora 20 release name because of the non-ASCII characters, while Richard M. Jones suggested ☃ (the Unicode "snowman" character U+2603, also known as HTML character entity &9731; or ☃). Peter Robinson proposed the project go right for the goal and choose "DROP table *;".
I still got no bananas. I have, no bananas, today :(
@Fanael What animal would that be
user784668
@sehe Polish for "Yellow Turtle".
@R.MartinhoFernandes actually that's bs because my password doesn't end with a letter and it got accepted
@Fanael Proposition Accepted!
14:40
@BartekBanachewicz I wonder if you will be able to login now...
Chroboczący Chrząszcz sounds better
user784668
@BartekBanachewicz 'W' != 'C', you know.
what about "zalgo" (with styling)
that sounds fitting for ubuntu btw
@R.Martinho, you totally have to name your next library "Chrząszcz"
A single RLO would be interesting.
Already have a name.
It's an obscure reference to a joke in a book by Iain M. Banks.
"taussig" has no ogonek though
@Fanael That looks like my screen got dirty.
user784668
@BartekBanachewicz ąęįǫųy̨
> Somewhat off topic... I just about died laughing when I discovered iOS will speak unicode symbols as their formal description - by asking my phone to read a sentence containing a "PILE OF POO".
user784668
14:43
@sehe but will it read "☭" as "COMMIE!"?
@R.MartinhoFernandes yup
@sehe (Also, hey, I am actually working on that same thing, but done right)
"Please do not use 'vector<bool>' and 'consistency' in the same sentence." #wg21 #isocpp
And how
@R.MartinhoFernandes Brak cet?
Brack set.
Anyway, Unicode character names are meant as identifiers, not for presentation. I hope they at least use the aliases where they exist.
The internet is done! Cat dressed as shark riding a roomba chasing a baby duck. That's it, ship it. http://24.media.tumblr.com/6986166623219890aecb766874bcdd14/tumblr_mldjvvNI0Z1r6uouqo1_500.gif
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Web 3.0?
Thunderbird marked a coworker annoucing their vacation as spam o_O...
14:51
@R.MartinhoFernandes nah, we need something more sparkle... web 3000
extra stdio synchronization voted into working paper
user142019
Is that good or bad?
What kind of synchronization?
extra protection for strings under (at least) 256 bytes that they will never be interleaved
14:53
That sounds weird.
wait, it hasn't been voted in quite yet
So, more or less, implementations will have to ensure a 256+ buffer, and atomic writes into it?
something like that
user784668
How about no synchronization and make the user worry about it?
That's gotta be better than a per-character lock, surely?
14:54
Standard already guarantees no data race
user784668
@MartinJames Per-silicon atom lock.
Another morning, another bug fixed.
I'm so good.
user784668
@MartinJames Though I wonder if some idiot legitimately asked this question somewhere.
@Fanael :)
user142019
@EtiennedeMartel Another bug fixed, another bug introduced.
user142019
14:56
You're so bad.
@Zoidberg Wot? Only one-for-one? That's pretty good!
@Zoidberg I'm like Lucas.
user142019
Flex and Bison are great.
ITT Zoidberg is finally at SAN 0.
user142019
What does that mean. :v
user784668
14:59
@MartinJames Unlike GCC, where for every bug fixed there are two new ones, both being "eternal P2".
@Zoidberg You have a low sanity score.
user784668
@Zoidberg lol what
user142019
I'm insane.

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