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It's not a binary
it's called that way
user142019
Okay.
waf 1.7.9 binary (run from a writable folder)
user142019
It's a Python file with binary data in a comment.
12:00
It's a zip with Python script on top that bootstraps it
yea, i can imagine
hm, so does it mean it will be able to run on windows too?
user142019
$ chmod +x waf
$ gvim wscript
$ CXX=clang++ ./waf configure && ./waf build
user142019
@BartekBanachewicz if you have Python installed.
user142019
(Which you should if you're a software developer of any kind.)
Ell
Ell
^really?
I've never ne
12:02
I do have python installed, of course
I am script-language friendly :)
user142019
Python is much more useful than CMake, so I'd rather install Python than CMake.
I've never really liked CMake
Meh not too big a fan of python either
@Aleks we are talking mostly about using it not writing it
Ah fair enough
12:04
@Zoidberg what should I put in wscript?
user142019
def options(opt):
    opt.load('compiler_cxx')

def configure(conf):
    conf.load('compiler_cxx')

def build(bld):
    # targets here
Ell
Ell
Ahh I just opened vim and now I'm scared
how do I quit? :P
user142019
s/ca/ac/
@Ell Welcome to the world of pure awesome-ness
@Ell :q
12:07
@Ell :q
3:47 new Mahjongg record!
@Ell So many people have trouble with that on their first go lol
@FredOverflow back to patience!
user142019
Minecraft.
why did you tell him how to quit!!!
12:09
@BartekBanachewicz hah. makefiles are a life skill! It's basically always the same. Just a few magic variables to know
he was such a nice random sequence generator!
@Ell or ZZ (ZQ discarding changes)
@sehe I am now betraying you with Cat and Zoidberg. Oh wait, that doesn't sound that well. Anyway, I'm going to try waf.
@BartekBanachewicz No way. I like SCons too. Just my deficiency at Python holding me back'
I hear Waf is basically Scons-NT
user142019
Congratulations. You just made a screenshot of an error message. — Zoidberg 4 secs ago
12:11
I actually just typed $ sudo apt-get remove gedit
phew. The temptation was too big.
user142019
Why did you even install that junk.
@sehe I don't know what do you mean by Scons-NT but prolly yes
@Zoidberg ubuntu default
Ell
Ell
ahhh the inside of my eye is itchy as hell
user142019
27 secs ago, by Zoidberg
Why did you even install that junk.
@Zoidberg I am running Pendrivebuntu on my work laptop
12:12
I knew you would say that Zoid
Ell
Ell
I use gedit xD
Until now when I'm learning vim
@Aleks A wild psychic appears!
user142019
@BartekBanachewicz you installed it on your pendrive.
@Ell Did you look at Java code?
user142019
Stop installing junk like Ubuntu.
12:13
meh
it works.
user142019
@FredOverflow lol
Don
Don
@BartekBanachewicz It's really impressive how it all works~ how the nodes are communicating and all
@Don do you mean you have ran it?
user142019
@Don Use Erlang.
Don
Don
Yeah I did
12:13
Once you go slack you never go back
@Don wow cool
I forgot it even had readme lol
That's cool at least you like it
Don
Don
Haha yeah it did and I was like "hmm lets try this!" yep it's awesome :)
Ell
Ell
whaaa. How do I type a "$" in vim?
@Zoidberg it's not junk
Don
Don
@Zoidberg Erlang? o.o
I am guessing you are in the wrong mode
user142019
12:15
Ubuntu is junk.
Ell
Ell
It isn't
@Ell what? are you in Insert?
user142019
@Don Congratulations. You can read.
user142019
@Ell shift+4
Ell
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz I don't know :'( But it says search hit TOP, continueing at BOTTOM
esc does nothing o.O
12:16
@Don Erlang is a weird language made for making servers in it, more or less
Ell
Ell
and I don't know how I got into that mode xD
user142019
Hit I to go into insert mode you noob.
@Ell Press Esc a few times and I
user142019
Also.
user142019
Run vimtutor.
12:16
oho ^
Don
Don
@BartekBanachewicz Thanks for the info hehe, I sort of like lua ;o I think I'll go with it~
@Don I love that language. Has its flaws, of course, but nevertheless it's great.
Lua and Haskell or Lua and C++ are killers
but standalone Lua can show a lot too, as you can see in my app :)
oh, and @Don - ctrlctrl.lua is a GUI app for this system :)
Don
Don
Oh? runs it
just run normal controller first
it hooks into like every app
it isn't finished, but some of the functionality works :)
Don
Don
That's so nice :o
12:23
it's written using IUP library
Don
Don
Didn't think you could make gui apps with lua lol
Oh gotcha
yea, IUP has binds for Lua
i mean, it was made by Lua guys
you can use it in C or in Lua, but lua is much more convenient of course
IUP is cross platform and runs on pretty much everything, including Solaris, i think
rest of the code will run on everything that can run raw C
Don
Don
Oh I see
I have tested in on android phones, PCs, iPad, even embedded controllers with PowerPC processors
Don
Don
iPad? how did you.. o-o
12:27
I'm glad Arch Linux is choosing to deliver older library versions in the main repo now.
Qt3, Qt4, Qt5. Let's hope KDE gets the same treatment :s
@Don i have a jailbroken one, but Lua is perfectly ok for iOS development. Ever heard of Corona SDK?
Don
Don
NNope
> OpenGL, OpenAL, Google Maps, Box2D physics, Facebook Connect, Game Center
@BartekBanachewicz they forgot windows :S
@rubenvb yea, I sometimes regret it ^^
But it's a mobile framework after all
Also, windows emulator isn't technically an emulator :P
So windows 8 version would be probably trivial for them
meh, stupid people everywhere
He cites a headline stating Windows Phone has a 6% market share as a reason not to support it.
well, windows phone isn't exactly the most popular one on the market
Yet Mac OS X and/or Linux don't have much more of a desktop share, yet things ike GTK and Qt support it.
Mac OS has a lot, especially in US
GTK is a linux creation from the beginning
Ell
Ell
12:33
gimp toolkit
and Qt aims to be the most complete, which Corona doesn't
I am not trying to defend Corona's creator choices or attacking them
I am just saying that it's a nice framework if you are interested in iOS/Android
And there's a lot more where that came from.
:P
3 mins ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
meh, stupid people everywhere
12:36
Mac is a sorry excuse to be anti-MS.
@BartekBanachewicz Seems like a pose. Or the course includes the laptop
@sehe or a steve jobs live stream thingie.
Okay, I don't really want to engage in this
Let's focus on how Lua is awesome
user1357851
Well I usually take the stance of not being any brand's fan girl
12:38
Isn't Lua based on C-something?
To me they are bizarrely neatly in the same position; normally, I'd expect one or two people (each row) "not paying attention"/"not !!!ready to type!!! any second" etc.
I'm not a brands fan girl!
user1182183
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Q: What is the VK_KEY / scancode for this key?

Gam ErixI am using GetASyncKeyState (C++) to check for keys. I don't know what the name of this key is: How is this key named? What is the VK_ or Scancode?

user1357851
so I have Mac, PC(window 7) at home and owns 3 Linux servers (2 VPS & 1 shared)
@rubenvb it is written in C
Interestingly, that has very little to do with the brands. Just the software there. Do we call software vendors "brands" too?
12:39
@GamErix zomg.
zomg.
user1182183
It's a serious question!
Did you just take a photo of your keyboard and send it to SO?
user1182183
@BartekBanachewicz something wrong with that? XD
Ell
Ell
what do you call the | character?
user1357851
@sehe yes that's why it's called brand loyalty
user1182183
12:41
@Ell vertical bar? :P separator?
@GamErix couldn't you simply use the same function to check which key is registered as down when you press it? Then you'd have its scancode ;)
@GamErix GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGLE
user1182183
@jalf hm, yes I just woke up xD True O_o but I couldn't find it anywhere and probly other people could use that information too :P
@jalf that would be too easy ^^
user1182183
@sehe Error 404: NO_RESULTS
12:42
@GamErix Buy a better internet
@GamErix well fail. I have answered you anyway
@Ell (vertical) bar, pipe
Don
Don
I'm off for a bit, @BartekBanachewicz Thanks for all of the info! I think I'll also try corona sdk out :), I might bother a little later about the lua socket thingy though if you don't mind >;3
@Don sure, no problem.
Don
Don
:) Later~
Ell
Ell
12:44
Ta :)
^In the OCD department (/cc @thecoshman)
user1357851
what is it?
some strange charts
It's the activity of Mumble Users last night, measured in bytes/10 minute slot. Positive: inbound, negative: outbound
@BartekBanachewicz I've used it to learn more about GNUplot and python (allthough I admit to starting that in perl. Again...)
neat :)
too bad I had to leave you, but y'know, you lost with boobs
12:48
haha
user142019
I am bored.
@Zoidberg why don't you do a one-day project?
@Zoidberg I agree
@BartekBanachewicz like me ^ (that's the same, but with the granularity down to minutes, instead of 10minute aggragates)
user142019
@BartekBanachewicz boring.
12:49
um... draw stuff?
hey, these are getting better and better
@GamErix Oh look - I've got one of them too. I wonder what it's used for?
user1357851
Why is it okey for you to spam @sehe?
user1182183
@MartinJames right click menu
12:50
@Telkitty Is it?
Ell
Ell
I wanted to learn gnuplot
@Telkitty because he is posting cool stuff that he actually made himself, more or less
user142019
It is okay for us to spam sehe.
And it is relevant to the lounge, as it was last night's group activity
user1357851
I have to admit, the 1st one was cool, 2nd one was okay. The 3rd one onwards are just waste of bandwidth :x
user142019
12:51
That's what she said.
Yeah - I just tried it. Been using these KB for like forever and never used that thing :)
@Telkitty you aren't using mumble, so it's not interesting for you maybe
Ell
Ell
If I wanted to pass a lexer something that it can read characters from, what should I pass it? An istream?
I'm now searching my KB for any other keys I've missed.....
Ell
Ell
Or some kind of iterator?
12:51
nevermind, I will start spamming cubes soon enough
@Ell RANGE
user142019
@Ell Ogonek iterators.
@Telkitty Onwards? There's only 3. Just fyi. Next time when you post something relevant, I'll give you credit for 1 future bandwidth wasting. IOW: why are you so stuck up about "me" telling you you're overdoing things with pictures?
It's been the Robot, Bartek, Me, the ape (plonked you) and many others who have explicitely told you the exat same thing. Get over it.
user142019
> Me
user142019
Capital M. Egocentric polar bear.
user1357851
ape was never here
12:53
Sorry, I wasn't too sure anymore
Ell
Ell
Say I wanted only to use the standard library? :3
Nope - it's just been that one key. I've used all the others for stuff.
@Zoidberg I'm not focusing on me, Telkitty is. I'm just pointing out that is a misconception
user142019
I want to do something fun today.
12:53
@Zoidberg maybe leave the house
Ell
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz As in, a pair of iterators?
@Zoidberg Me too, but they're shut now.
@Ell as in MOTHERDUCKING RANGE WITH RAINBOWS N'SHIT
user1357851
I won't know whether Ape plonked me or not, we never talk to each other
user142019
@BartekBanachewicz yes but to do what.
12:54
@Telkitty Riiiight. I'm not in the mood to find it for you right now. But sure as hell he mentioned he was happy to have you plonked, when someone else (note: not me) complained about your pictures. Again.)
Ell
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz heh I did not know ranges where in the stdlib :P
user142019
Chagrijn, chagrijn, wat ben jij een chagrijn.
@Zoidberg find a random nice looking girl and invite her for coffee
and just chat.
user142019
Eww coffee.
@BartekBanachewicz I can't do that much - my car is parked 2 miles away.
user1357851
12:55
people flag at random things, I am not concerned
@Ell they ain't.
@Telkitty ... pay attention next time. The ape even notices you even though he has you plonked. How can you "miss him" while you are around at the same time? Have you got him plonked?
user142019
@Ell pair of iterators!
Ell
Ell
istream_iterators?
user1182183
12:56
have to admit I will never get more than 500 rep cuz I always end up using it for bounties for questions (even not mine questions) xD
just pass a template type
Ell
Ell
Right
and read using boost::begin and boost::end
profit.
user1357851
@sehe I don't know he's never on and I don't find him very interesting so I won't know either ways.
it will work with everything that begin can be ran on
Ell
Ell
12:56
I want to just use the standard lib atm
@Telkitty IOW: you don't pay attention, yet you complain when you face the consequences of not giving a damn. Makes sense :0
@Telkitty that's totally irrelevant. You started the "image posting" thread again, and @sehe is just trying to tell you the reasoning.
@Ell std::begin and std::end, but boost versions are better :(
@Telkitty Anyways, the good news is, I've seen you contribute many other things the last week, and I must say I like that. I just don't get how you keep complaining to me about this. I suggest you just drop that, get on with it, and reduce the spam levels (like you were doing anyway).
Ell
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz howcome?
@Ell @Xeo said that boost ones do ADL.
12:58
@Ell They have specializations for Boost library constructs IIRC. Also, I believe they might actually DoTheRightThing(TM) for ADL without you having to always think about it
@GamErix what do you mean by "keys are detected"? And probably that would be nice as a comment. I am not sure of that so I think I will reject that edit, unless you show me some reference

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