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12:00
Might well be
> message: This still needs to get implemented
@R.MartinhoFernandes well, you don't need a huge thing to test against. But how can you possibly have at least the common use cases with only 2 characters? You need a third character to build suspense, to play off against. And what about the setting?
@thecoshman I have other test documents. I keep one for each feature. The largest one is a Lorem Ipsum.
in Git, how do you see which files you're about to commit, and choose what to do with them?
I have a sudden nightmare of git commit and suddenly all the CMake crap
12:02
@DeadMG erm. tortoise git? github for windows?
I'm on Ubuntu
Put stuff on .gitignore for ignoring.
@DeadMG Ah! git add -i, but that's very lowlevel. What I do is: git diff [--staged] --ignore-all-whitespace | kompare -o - and do the side by side.
Usually, though, I use Vim with Fugitive and I micro-commit, so there's never a need to weed
huh
wtb tortoisehg :(
Doesn't git ship with some gitk UI or something?
Never used that crap, to be honest.
those are all Windows
@sehe What part of "I'm on Ubuntu" did you miss?
@DeadMG sorry. I lost track again, since you mentioned tortoiseHG
it's ok
I know that the idea of being on Linux is horrific, but, y'know
@R.MartinhoFernandes The part where moaning about TortoiseHg is hardly relevant then. I imagine the same question would arise had it been Hg on linux
12:07
Poor puppy.
@sehe Actually, thg runs on Linux.
@DeadMG Not really. I just don't expect you to be on linux xD for the obvious reasons
@R.MartinhoFernandes really. Now. That needs porting. Because I'd totally sell it on a few people (including the puppy)
@sehe Actually, it probably would.
@sehe Nah, I just boot back into Windows
anyone know why I still get name mangling even when using extern "C" ?
@user1233963 Let me guess: __stdcall calling convention?
12:10
ye
should i remove it?
extern "C" doesn't mean "turn off mangling"
no, it's use C linkage
And you get that
Hint stdcall functions are mangled in C too
i see
thanks
it's not really the same mangling as in C++
it's just a _ to the front and @totalparamsize to the back.
12:13
Still mangling
indeed
another question
say i have a function in a dll returning a pointer to an abstract class, and it returns a derived class, how should I delete the pointer?
use a smart pointer, fool
12:16
Ugh crossing DLL boundaries
besides that
lol
"I need a solution. Except for those that you give me."
you're insane if you use anything but a smart pointer.
i'm not, my mom had me tested
obviously you need a retest :P
12:19
anyway, do I need to add a pure virtual function like "release" in the base and in the derivates make it call delete this or simple deletion works?
it will work if you correctly dynamically linked the CRT and you have a virtual destructor.
@LucDanton classical pattern
thank you
@user1233963 you're not a smart pointer, sorry to hear
12:23
I'm an object, not a pointer
no, I don't see a troll, just a userxxxxxx
how do I get my MAC address?
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ifconfig, I think
oh linux
12:34
What do you need MAC address for
ifconfig -a
@CatPlusPlus because he's obviously going to do a Man In the Middle attack on his brother with ARP spoofing. :P
So I can already write something like Requires<Invokable<F, void()>, Copyable<ResultOf<F()>>> but that doesn't quite work as advertised.
On the other hand splitting that into two Requires clause appears to produce the expected hard error. I doubt that's reliable though.
I have an executable file, but bash won't execute it when I use the name :(
I tried chmod +x and sudo, but they still complain that the name does not exist
12:45
@LucDanton haha
@DeadMG The current directory is not on the PATH by default, for security reasons.
can you hook a DirectX app in a way that allows you to render the scene to a custom surface, with a different camera?
You need to use ./yourthingy to run it.
@R.MartinhoFernandes sh you're giving it away so soon
yeah, I misinterpreted the error
12:50
I like that your first instinct is to elevate the permissions to max
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cross me bold ...got it
they're annoying
@DeadMG hahahahaa
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Q: Transforming functions using c++11 variadic templates

SkeenI have a function; void source(char arg1, int arg2, const char* arg3) { std::cout << "test " << arg1 << arg2 << arg3 << std::endl; } That I'd like to be of the form; void target(tuple<char,int> args, tuple<const char*> params) { ... } Howeve...

install software
everyone refers to folder/file that does not exist
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12:58
@Zoidberg yes you can insert (cat, meow), (dog, woof) & (cat, purr)
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usually operation is do a find(key), then if(found){something();}else{somethingelse();}
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@DeadMG on linux?
yeah
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check your config file for default download directory?
does this CTP 4 have more C++11 stuff?
13:04
no
then why is it starred :(
still useful bugfixes
@DeadMG do you have a file 'foo' and you are trying to run it as 'foo'? then no that will (almost) never work. you need to tell it look in this folder './foo'. Otherwise it is simple looking in places listed in $PATH
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aGWRELAGHJEHERH
Am I the only one that is tired of lolcats?
13:09
if you really dislike that, you can edit your bashrc (or what ever shell you like) to include '.' in 'PATH', but you should put it at the end.
@thecoshman Ew.
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or use the full path 1) pwd (to find out the path) 2) (full path)/filename
@R.MartinhoFernandes I never said it was a good idea, just that it is an option.
@R.MartinhoFernandes I stopped caring about lolcats years ago (literally), I just ignore it as a reflex.
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I have a feeling puppy is trying to actively work against Linux.
13:10
@Xeo a feeling?
@Rapptz Well, I mean, lolcats here in the lounge.
Yep.. still ignored mentally.
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm just tired of the endless meme photos
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@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm tired of the lolcat we have in this room. Does that count too? :)
And no, I'm not speaking of @Cat.
@thecoshman Yeah, that too.
13:11
@thecoshman but you posted some yesterday
@Xeo ¬_¬ is that a dig at my poor spelling?
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@thecoshman lol, no
@Rapptz me? I've barely been on the last three days
@Xeo gr8
hmm
@Xeo Not sure what you mean.
13:13
I'm not going to deny that I do post images, but I think some people have slight problems with numbers
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Who posted the lolcat? Look at the name.
But I knew it, my punches fly too low to be detected. :|
Image macros stop being funny as soon as novelty wears off and it does that pretty fast because it's literally zero effort crap
Oh I thought you were taking a shot at tony.
Yeah, me too.
@CatPlusPlus Indeed.
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13:14
@Rapptz Hm... thinking about it, he's also a good candidate for a "lolcat", huh.
Lol, it looks like a serial downvoter came to his/her senses :P
@Doorknob Probably got reversed by the mods and/or some automatic process
Dafuq, why does the debug build build a release plugin.
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@Collin No, that would look different
@Collin no, then it would be a +6 "reversal"
13:15
Oh
oh no's -6 rep ;_;
@Doorknob AFAIK, there's a script that fixes such things at midnight.
yes I think so
although I don't think it would catch only 3 downvotes
@MartinJames which midnight?
13:15
I just find it funny that for apparently no reason he undownvoted everything :P
@thecoshman The one on the site.
Haha, just found that: bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=49664
> [2009-10-19 15:10 UTC] [email protected]: Infinite recursion crashes. There's no fix for that.
@R.MartinhoFernandes which one is that? I see my local time
@thecoshman Wherever the hosting servers are, I guess..
UTC
mouseover your name on the top bar of the site
and it will show UTC time
13:17
@ereOn lol
Sep 10 '12 at 19:37, by Cat Plus Plus
I'm for "no image macros" rule.
@Doorknob Heh - musta been through that dropdown thousands of times, never noticed the time.
Spearheading revolution~
yep me too :P
I saw a meta post about it
13:19
@CatPlusPlus ¬_¬ does this cover all one boxed images?
an image macro has black bordered white text on an image
in the form of a meme
then no
I'll vote for a 'no cats, no pears' rule.
I'm for "no one-boxed images" rule.
I'm for "I don't care"
13:20
I would much rather see a blanket ban on the lot of them
It's a chat room.
@Rapptz abstaining from voting is fine, just kindly shut up about it :P
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Does that mean I should abuse the image thing while I still can?
@Rapptz 'chat room' is not some secret code for 'be as big a dick as possible'
It isn't "being a dick"
13:21
@Telkitty sure, I can plonk you
Oh-oh... incoming...
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@thecoshman true
Post funny images
You just happen to dislike images in general.
@thecoshman I already have telkitty plonked :P
13:22
While I don't, I'd rather not have any dumb changes because the chat is fine as is.
If the images bugged me that much I can ignore I guess.
I only posted one image today - it was tragic, rather than funny.
there are scripts that un-onebox stuff
@Rapptz take up too much space, offer very little for the conversation, usually introduced in out of sequence to the current conversation
@DeadMG well, they didn't fix typename ( crashing intellisense :p
Get a script to block them for you.
13:23
If it's funny and related it's fine
Like Doorknob said there are some.
If you want examples of not fine then just look at the crap Telkitty posts
@CatPlusPlus which they rarely are, and rarely are
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people posted 10 pics - no sound, then I posted 1 - the whole lounge boiled over it. Indicates this condition is more psychological :p
13:24
Move the event +2 hours I have a PE class then
@CatPlusPlus At 21?
@CatPlusPlus ..but then I'll be in the pub!
At 20:30, it ends at 22
@CatPlusPlus PE? ¬_¬ you're at uni
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busted!
13:25
Yeah and I get to do two semesters worth of PE classes ISN'T THAT GREAT
@Feeds you mean, you need to plonk telkitty? Also, what is an image macro?
Maybe we should have a rule to remove RSS notifications.
@CatPlusPlus I'm guessing that's not 'Portable Executable'
what is that event for...?
13:28
Passing law and judgement
Image macros fight club
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@Feeds No users have registered for this event.
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sweet
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how do I quote a message in this lounge?
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13:29
@R.MartinhoFernandes Did you kill the event name?
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not reply
@R.MartinhoFernandes I keep saying that. So no, you're not the only one. FTR the other day I flagged yet another instance of inappropriate imagery (for moderator attention)
@Telkitty IIRC you can't reply and quote
@thecoshman you can't replay
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@thecoshman I see some people quoting others' messages
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Haha
We need to talk about scheduling events
13:30
@Telkitty ah, you can post a link to someone else message, and that will auto-onebox
No one had registered, so nothing is lost...
@sehe you know what to do :P
@Telkitty It's probably best if you don't find out. Hint: It's undocumented, and there are no nwebie hints
Ugh I have to download SQL Server
PLEASE WORK SECURE DOWNLOAD MANAGER PLEASE WORK
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@thecoshman how can I link to one msg instead of the whole page?
13:31
@CatPlusPlus lol lol lol
Seriously how much can you screw up a downloader
@Telkitty use the perma link nub cake
It seems simple right
I might take part if I could get an Android browser that actually worked well with chat.
Would you look at that Spirit library go. It's a pretty amazing thing, don't you think — sehe 4 secs ago
13:32
3GB in 30 minutes
@CatPlusPlus I fail to see why companies make downloaders like that. If your file is really that awkward to download in one hit, torrent it
And it'll break 200 times during this period
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9 mins ago, by Telkitty
people posted 10 pics - no sound, then I posted 1 - the whole lounge boiled over it. Indicates this condition is more psychological :p
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Cool beans it works :p
@thecoshman Dunno, authz or some shit
13:33
@CatPlusPlus PE? in uni?
But then you could download encrypted version with BT and transfer the decryptor with this uber secure channel
@melak47 YES
if you have one server with an initial source file, and one client... does torrent have an substantial penalty?
@thecoshman A what?
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13:34
"substitutional", lol
@Telkitty because you do little else. Well, yesterday you started talking. I think
Did you mean: situational
Did you mean: substantial
(Yes, BT uses more bandwith than other protocols if there's only one delivery)
For the downloader, BT always uses more bandwith.
okey. last classes 18-20 today
@R.MartinhoFernandes hmmm... but you do get the advantage of it managing interrupts for you...
13:36
@thecoshman Meh, HTTP supports resumes too.
@R.MartinhoFernandes it does? fucked if I've ever seen it in action :O
What BT gives is a distribution of bandwidth usage across the swarm.
@thecoshman ever used a download manager that can resume http downloads? there you go :p
@sehe I’m sorry but I don’t have the means / time to fix this. I’m using a slides template. I have to live with the restrictions it brings, just like I’d have to live with the restrictions of PowerPoint.
HTTP has Range for resuming and parallelising downloads
13:37
@thecoshman It can do - ther'es some stuff in the header..
@melak47 nope
your loss :p
Every download manager ever has pause/resume
Even FF and Chrome's built-in ones.
@KonradRudolph I don't care. I'm just telling you so that you may consider using the pdf link instead in some situations. It was a response to the opposite recommendation:
2 hours ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
Please use http://tinyurl.com/fuck-pointers-html
13:38
well... I just use the chrome do dad... I can't really think about before chrome...
@CatPlusPlus pause/resume is nice, but cancelled/failed/interrupted/disconnected + resume is better
and I still find they either download or fail midway
Chrome: Oh, you were disconnected for some reason? Unknown network error. You get to restart your download :D
@sehe Ah, interesting. I think I still prefer linking to HTML over all … but it’s worth keeping in mind (I also wanted to add a dynamic overlay to the first slide explaining usage caveats and linking to the PDF)
(I just haven’t found the time to do that yet)
@KonradRudolph That'd be nice. Indeed HTML is way nicer. However, this is not HTML. This is browser specific javascript wizardry :)
13:41
@sehe also known as, Javascript
@sehe Well, actually it’s proper HTML; if you disable JavaScript you get a readable version
'browser specific javascript' LOL!
@KonradRudolph really
@MartinJames I'm stressing the part where it matters
and although I haven’t looked at the source in detail I actually think that the JavaScript should be largely conformant
To be fair, I hate this slide template. It’s too much magic. You cannot just write up your slides, you have to run a local server to render them, which is patently stupid
but it’s the most robust slide template I’ve come across so far
meh, recursion is hard to debug
13:43
@KonradRudolph what are you doing? O_o
presentation slides in html?
@TonyTheLion resisting urge to tell you debug it first
@melak47 Why is that so foreign? It’s actually a pretty straightforward application of HTML
clitoris
or rather, it should be
13:44
@sehe thanks for CTP\4 link!
Update 2 CTP 4, to be precise! :o
@melak47 it's the future man! synergy and all that
@KonradRudolph Gah. It should. However, it clearly isn't :) I'm trying hard to recall another site with shortcut keys that wouldn't work. I don't recall one
Pro tip: re-enable java script before trying to post messages in chat
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@TonyTheLion once you get used to it it is not too bad - always start with less recursive calls. Once it works for 3 recursive calls, it most probably will work for 300 ... until you run out of memory
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Q: How do you create a variadic function that doesn't need the caller to pass arguments count to it?

ZadirionLet us assume you have a function within a namespace: namespace Math { int Sum(<params>); } How do you implement this function Math::Sum such that the caller can call it with any number of arguments yet the caller doesn't need to pass the number of arguments too. The caller also needs ...

13:45
Hmm. Maybe that’d be a good question for SuperUser … usable, standards conformant slide deck template
@TonyTheLion How so?
@KonradRudolph I confirm, disabling javascript indeed gives a readable version of the opening slide with no navigation :(
The usual tag abuse
sorted
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13:47
the C++ fags
lol
how did it let me do that?
-1 for disgusting macro hack destroying all calls to all functions named "Sum". — DeadMG 1 min ago
ooh, elections :S
who to vote for...
13:50
link?
@DeadMG doesn't matter, I had overlooked something else.
the recursion wasn't the issue
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@KonradRudolph Are you even participating?
and didn't make a sodding difference
oic
?? can't see Zoidberg.
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Oh, people fight over doing something for free
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awesome :p
Anyone worth voting for? I don't know any of those names
13:56
1297 votes: 'I am aware that being a mod would extend my duties beyond the PHP tag'
@Collin Flexo.
@Collin aye, Flexo is a C++ man
hopefully he can bring sanity to the world...
@Flexo say hi
and smart pointers
(we need to make him out bitch)
The good news is that 'javascript guy' only has 154 votes.
13:59
I do vaugely remember reading that name once now that you mention it, I feel like I was thinking "Ahh.. Futurama.. chuckle"

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