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21:00
A conversion operator that modifies the object seems wrong to me.
user142019
You never know what you'll eventually need!
But, it's possible yes.
hmm, robot, could you tell me what would "uni-verge" be in phonetic spanish? (Portuguese is closish to spanish right?)
OK. Executing plan 'beerfest'. Goodnight ladies and gentlemen, sundry furry animals and the odd crustacean. Entering radio silence..
@MooingDuck I don't know that word.
Aaaaaand my Chilean friend is offline.
Sorry.
21:02
@R.MartinhoFernandes it's a company name, not a word :/
I have to tell the ASR engine in spanish how a spanish speaker will pronounce this English name. Whee.
user142019
"Incorrectly."
@Zoidberg yeah, that complicates things.
Probably something like [uni vɛɾxe].
21:04
er, those aren't spanish letters. :(
Oh.
Wait, what.
user142019
I can speak phonetic.
You want something in Spanish that sounds like the English pronounciation?
@R.MartinhoFernandes of an English word :(
21:05
feel free to say "no"
Is the "g" soft or hard?
@R.MartinhoFernandes soft
is something wrong with reputation system of SO?
verge like... uh... virgin.
user142019
@AppDeveloper Yes.
21:05
Hmm, sorry, I forgot which one that is. Like in "cage"?
it's the "virg" in "virgin"
@MooingDuck I don't think Spanish has that sound, only the hard one.
@R.MartinhoFernandes ah curses.
@Zoidberg - for how long?
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21:06
Crap, I just noticed I misspelled "new" in the pinned message.
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@AppDeveloper since always.
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And checking this confirms it. (the missing sound is /dʒ/, check the consonant table)
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@Xeo me too.
@Zoidberg - well, UP is not being counted :(
@R.MartinhoFernandes I failed to notice we needed this word (and "one box") for the translators :/
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21:07
Onebox?
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@AppDeveloper Ask on Meta Stack Overflow.
@Zoidberg some company we work with, I dunno.
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@MooingDuck They'll sue Stack Exchange!
21:08
@AppDeveloper hit the rep limit?
@AppDeveloper You hit the repcap. That's by-design.
repcap?
user142019
> 245 today
Maximum 200 rep from upvotes per day.
user142019
Something with a 200 rep per day max or something.
21:09
Accepts and bounties don't count.
Is there some place I can ask about language design and related topics?
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Don't worry, @Mysticial knows that one in and out, like his backyard. ;)
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Repcap is Jon Skeet’s arch enemy.
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@Zoidberg Or not - it's his biggest advantage, since he can keep ahead of everyone by dropping a gigaton of answers that get accepted.
21:10
@Zoidberg It's kinda mine too. Since by ratio, I've the second biggest victim. :)
thnx guys!
user142019
I think people upvote Skeet just because Skeet.
Aug 20 '12 at 17:43, by Fanael
@Chimera So that @Mysticial can't beat Jon Skeet.
@MooingDuck Yeah, I think you're out of luck :/ Why can't you just pronounce it in English?
well many people do, sometimes i do it too!
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21:11
I hit repcap once. :P
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@FredOverflow Nice? They're AWESOME.
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Q: My discuss about MSc deleted but another that was about employee sleep with boss wife not

RozhinI wonder why My discuss about MSc(master of science) deleted but another that was about employee sleep with boss wife not.Is that more important than my discuss?

^^ wtf?
@R.MartinhoFernandes because this is going to an ASR engine, if I tell it that such and such bit is English, then it will only listen for that bit for English users :(
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Hm. I might actually ask a question why char const (&)[3] vs char const* is ambiguous with "hi".
I know both conversions are "exact match", but I thought they were also ranked within their categories.
othewise, identity conversion would never win over qualification conversion
21:15
@Xeo I seem to recall it already exists.
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@Mysticial His discuss about his discuss about MSc got deleted also deleted.
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And a simple T& + T const& overload with an lvalue T would be ambiguous.
@R.MartinhoFernandes hmm
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Awesome this is.
No, it isn't.
user142019
21:19
IYO!
It's depressing to read a discussion (in Portuguese) about how depressing it is that most Portuguese speakers don't know the language, and there are about three spelling mistakes per sentence.
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Hmm...
@CatPlusPlus Huge commit, checkout everything from Doughland when you can!
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Standard conversion sequence S1 is a better conversion sequence than standard conversion sequence S2 if
— S1 is a proper subsequence of S2 (comparing the conversion sequences in the canonical form defined by 13.3.3.1.1, excluding any Lvalue Transformation; the identity conversion sequence is considered to be a subsequence of any non-identity conversion sequence)
user142019
I uploaded a new profile pic on Facebook and I'm being bombarded with likes.
21:25
Dougland is now primary overarching solution.
user142019
PEOPLE LIKE ME
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Still doesn't explain why [identity] is ambiguous with [(identity, )array-to-pointer]. :(
user142019
@ScottW guess.
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Oh, wait
I think I got it.
> comparing the conversion sequences in the canonical form defined by 13.3.3.1.1, excluding any Lvalue Transformation;
And array-to-pointer is an Lvalue Transformation
So it's [identity] vs [identity], making it ambiguous. /cc @R.MartinhoFernandes @DeadMG
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@ScottW wat I deleted that account.
21:27
lolol
That pic
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@Zoidberg Or so you thought.
user142019
> Scott W added you as friend.
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lol
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Dat avatar.
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21:29
So, Robot, you can rely on char const* being a better match against T&& universal ctor. :P
@Zoidberg You call 4 much? ^^
user142019
4?
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I don't know you. :L
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Oh well fuck it why not.
user142019
> Geef me een kipKoЯn.
21:32
@Zoidberg Yeah, don't tell me I am stalking the wrong person.
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lolwot
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@ScottW I see, @StackedCrooked. :P
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@ScottW You planing something?
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And Cat, I see.
Cat is on Facebook?
user142019
21:40
Under the name Cat Plus Plus. :P
@ScottW doesn't that imply real names and such?
Ok, now text<utf8>{"foo"} does not compile, but text<utf8>{{"foo"}} does. I think that's fine.
@R.MartinhoFernandes document that
user142019
@MooingDuck real names of all three are already known by many regulars (and otherwise very easy to find out).
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@R.MartinhoFernandes You could provide an std::initializer_list<char const*> ctor for the latter. :D
I think
21:42
@R.MartinhoFernandes text<utf8>{"foo",i_swear_to_god_on_my_soul_this_is_really_utf8);
@Xeo No, std::string does that.
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@R.MartinhoFernandes I know. I meant if you wanted to prevent that.
Meh, I don't think it's that troublesome.
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Well, what about text<utf8> _ = {"foo"};?
Or are all those explicit?
You cannot do void f(text<utf8>); f({"foo"}); nor f({{"foo"}});
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21:43
k
I think that's the important bit.
@MooingDuck When you write text<utf8>{{"foo"}} you are already saying that it is utf8 once. I don't see a need to say it twice. (i.e. if you trust one of those cues, why not trust the other?)
@R.MartinhoFernandes because one says destination is utf8, the other says source is utf8.
@MooingDuck But the second one is external to the rhs anyway.
It does not make the compiler help you anyway.
Arrgggh
I need to talk to someone about my idea for the opening.
I.e. text<utf8>{u8"foo",something_not_utf8); would compile too, no?
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21:46
Btw, am I alone thinking that named bool switches within the language would be nice?
bool switches?
@R.MartinhoFernandes right, like a local codepage. or even utf16 in a byte buffer.
@Xeo no, that'd be good. But the enum fills that role passibly
anyone wants to team up in SC2?
switch (mybool) {
case true:
    break;
case false:
    break;
}
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I hate always seeing foo(a, b, true, false).
21:47
^ ?
@MooingDuck That's my point. The compiler will have to trust you anyway, so it doesn't really prevent any accident.
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@MooingDuck Welp, you need to qualify those. Really integrated named bool switch parameters would not require that (IMO).
@Xeo also scope is a problem with enums
@BartekBanachewicz How terrible can I be?
@R.MartinhoFernandes I was thinking just making the programmer doublecheck the encoding, but I realized maintenance breaks the whole concept, so ignore me.
@DeadMG pretty bad, dogs don't use mice very well.
21:50
Boost.Range Y U NO SFINAE traits.
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IOW, "Boost.Range, y u suck?!" - Really, when you first hear of Boost.Range and work with it, it's Teh Awesomez. But after digging a bit deeper.. ugh. :|
"deap"? you peasant
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Meh
I'm making a fine amount of typos lately - I really don't know why. :|
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@R.MartinhoFernandes damn and there's me thinking a utf-8 code unit is a byte
@Ell it is
1 hour ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
You can store the latter in the former, but the former is not the latter.
user142019
21:58
@ScottW de iep

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