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1:00 AM
I must be doing something wrong because this if statement is gigantic
 
oh well.
silence.
 
user1357851
LOL why do you care that you have been plonked, out of curiosity.
 
@BartekBanachewicz /cc @DeadMG
 
@Telkitty because puppy really helped me today, and I still hope I'll be able to learn a lot from him
 
yeah don't worry
 
user1357851
1:02 AM
Oo
 
he plonked me twice
with the promise to never unplonk me
 
@Cicada lol, srsly?
 
@BartekBanachewicz just go talk to snake5 :3
 
@melak47 that guy.
@Cicada what did you say?
 
@BartekBanachewicz maybe even more
 
user1357851
1:03 AM
I probably have been plonked 100+ times by 10+ people in this room.
 
@Telkitty what's weird in that?
 
@BartekBanachewicz it was something about porn
 
@Cicada that got you plonked, or un-plonked? :p
 
plonked. no idea why i got unplonked
 
1:04 AM
@melak47 Plonked.
I only unplonk people if the other regulars appear to be regularly tolerating them, and I forget why I plonked them in the first place.
 
what's plonking?
 
@DeadMG You forget things?
 
and how can I do it?
 
@LuchianGrigore ignoring someone on chat
 
1:05 AM
so... what's plonking guys?
 
@Mysticial that's what I'm afraid of
 
anyone?
 
@LuchianGrigore adding someone to ignore list
 
@Mysticial do you know?
 
1:06 AM
20 secs ago, by Luchian Grigore
anyone?
 
@Cicada Dude, you're supposed to pretend we all plonked him.
 
asmjs.org/spec/latest <-- Or you know, you could just use a language built for that sort of thing
 
@Collin Cough
 
heh
okay I totally missed that
 
@LuchianGrigore Can I has jQuery?
 
1:07 AM
wat?
so, anyone here know network stuff?
If I connect to a VPN, does my internet go through that connection?
 
that's the goal
 
@LuchianGrigore depends
 
Cause I connected from home to work
 
@Mysticial Not really. But if it's a really long time ago, I pay attention to them less, which is arguably the same thing in some circumstances.
 
but you have to configure your routes properly
 
1:09 AM
If it's the only connection you have then it should choose it.
 
and/or dns
 
and I might have had some torrents downloading
 
@LuchianGrigore Mostly. Sometimes you can split tunnel, but most setups have everything going through it
 
@LuchianGrigore Okay, what kind of VPN client or config are you using?
because you probably want to route only traffic to work through the vpn
 
@LuchianGrigore Unless they're doing some serious deep packet inspection (and care), I wouldn't worry
 
1:10 AM
@Collin cool, that's what I wanted to know
 
@Collin erm. torrents don't require much inspection there. However over VPN, is practically infeasible
 
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Overflow Chat, 9 mins ago, by Daniel Fischer
#define SIX 1+5
#define NINE 8+1
 
@LuchianGrigore Check your routes
 
@Cicada I just double-click on cisco any-connect
I'm not very tech savvy
 
Yeah, but if they don't block it out-right, I can't imagine a sysadmin is going to care
 
1:10 AM
@LuchianGrigore If the connections were present when you switched to VPN, I doubt they were re-routed
 
@LuchianGrigore just see whatismyip.com - that'd be the http traffic only
 
user142019
@Mechanicalsnail needs more parentheses.
 
@Collin right
@Zoidberg a lot
 
Anyway, if your work network is allowing torrents, that's nice :P
 
Your IP Address is:
x.x.x.x
No Proxy Detected
and?
 
1:11 AM
TIL I can't use FTP at work, unless I'm using IE
 
I don't know cicsco any-connect. Is that windows?
@BartekBanachewicz They are not indeed. But P2P opens and closes connections very frequently
 
@LuchianGrigore You should be able to tell whether that's your home or work IP
 
user142019
Does NHibernate support async?
 
@Cicada yup. Windows ftw
meh
 
@Cicada Yeah. Our work doesn't allow split tunnels, any active connections you had would be closed when you connected to VPN
 
user142019
1:12 AM
Otherwise I'll have to use a thread. :|
 
@LuchianGrigore Then can you run route PRINT ?
 
anyway, I was mostly curious because I have no idea how a VPN works
 
@Cicada depends. If you have a nice p2p partner, it can download a few hundred megs before it establishes another connection. It
 
but it's possible they only route traffic to intranet addresses through the VPN, and leave everything else in the clear
 
@Collin How can they enforce that?
 
1:13 AM
@LuchianGrigore download sysinternals tcpview.exe and ssee for yourself what connection is on what interface
 
@Cicada They own the computer...
 
@Zoidberg That's the joke: SIX * NINE == 42.
 
@Cicada by creating virtual adapter, and disabling any other. Most notably, hw ones.
 
@Mechanicalsnail lol. funny
 
@BartekBanachewicz Disable all hw adapters? :) powerful vpn
 
1:14 AM
Most corporate laptops disable wifi when plugged in via LAN, for example.
 
@Cicada Disable all homework adapters?
 
@Cicada oh, except the physical one used for connection.
 
@BartekBanachewicz but if you disable the hw adapters...the virtual one...does nothing
 
@melak47 I know, I kind of went too far there.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Then they can't cut existing connections on that adapter unless they reset it
@Mysticial Exactly. Broadcom homework adapters are very efficient.
2
 
1:15 AM
@Cicada Also Windows policy.. I have the power to install software and do most tasks, but some things they block out
 
Windows is retarded
 
They do reset it
 
Just fyi
 
@Cicada are you sure? Windows Enterprise has a lot of hacks for this
@Cicada That's my system!
 
@BartekBanachewicz To cut all connections on an iface you have to reset it. (Disable/Enable it).
 
1:16 AM
@Cicada Windows are retarded
 
@Cicada Okay. It's 2AM and I'm not an expert, so I believe you.
 
And anyway @LuchianGrigore. If you control your PC (and I hope you do), just edit the routes so that only traffic going to your work is routed through the VPN. It's not difficult.
@BartekBanachewicz It's 2AM and I'm not an expert either.
 
meh, I accidentally took a nap, and now I'm tired but not sleepy
 
@Cicada meh, I'll just disconnect
:)
and... done
 
@LuchianGrigore :o you're still here
 
1:17 AM
Luchian has disconnected
 
@melak47 from the vpn
 
@Cicada umm, how can you be in the same timezone?
 
daylight savings crap
 
Probably
 
also..no idea, does france use CET / GMT+1?
 
1:18 AM
I'm 1h ahead of you normally
Yeah GMT+1
 
oh wait, right
you're technically more in GMT+0
 
time zones are nuts
 
France is CET
 
that must've been a source of a lot of english-french problems
 
that and the clouds of chemicals going across the channel? :)
 
1:21 AM
chunnel.
 
funnel?
 
@StackedCrooked yep.
 
@StackedCrooked now I'm tired, not sleepy, and getting a headache! D:
 
I got the album when I was 16. Now I'm exactly twice that age and I still like it :)
 
1:23 AM
I remember playing with a program for creating music where you pressed buttons and different instruments were added or removed from the loop
I could've made this!
 
Talk is cheap.
 
So is this music~
 
I paid for that CD with my allowance money. It wasn't cheap!
 
well, Prodigy isn't that bad
 
They are standing the test of time pretty well. Which reminds me of this rather stupid song.
 
1:26 AM
hm, okey, so it seems it's as easy as adding glVertexAttribDivisor to the additional VBO
 
@BartekBanachewicz I have no idea what we are. CET, UTC+1 or GMT+1 or any combinations of those.
 
And glDrawElementsInstanced
@Cicada CET is equal to GMT+1, IIRC
CEST (Central European Summer Time) is GMT+2
 
CET += UTC-1 | GMT++
 
@Mysticial ...
 
The krau.. my valued German customers are currently an hour in front.
 
1:29 AM
power cut
 
Okey, I am dying
TMI for today
i have to serialize that data
and hopefully puppy will unplonk me by tomorrow, because I will probably have helluva more questions
 
user142019
C#'s do-while scoping is fucked up.
 
and here comes the random zoidberg
Good Night loungers
 
user142019
do {
    var x = something();
} while (x != -1); // x not in scope ;_;
 
Remind me, what do those curly brackets mean?
 
1:33 AM
I have a dumb question
 
This radio station always plays a Lily Allen track around 2-3 AM. Today it was ldn.
 
never mind I found an SO question to answer it
 
I have to go to bed, I'm getting stroppy and unsociable :(
 
Aw :(
It's no fun without you.
 
@Zoidberg your scope logic is fucked up
 
user142019
1:36 AM
It's annoying as fuck.
 
It's out of scope.
 
it's not even C#-specific
 
user1357851
If I don't figure out how to concat json in a loop using perl today I should just shoot myself. Too bad I don't have a gun.
 
you have a Perl
that's more than enough to shoot yourself
 
user1357851
true ... it is like torture. You suffer but not dying
 
1:37 AM
@Zoidberg Correct.
 
man
honest trailers is actually really very funny
 
user142019
@StackedCrooked meh C++ also sucks.
 
That's what I said, it's not even C# related.
 
Yeah!
 
{ } is a block and a scope delimiter in C, C++, C#
so fuck you zoidberg and your soundless logic
don't come and criticize c#
 
1:39 AM
Logic doesn't make sound.
 
ikillyou
@StackedCrooked unsound
fuck english
whatever
 
C'est rien.
Funny thing is that I never need to use French. And I had 11 years of education..
 
blergh, I'm going to try to sleep...night guys
 
user142019
Hurray my async HTTP server workz.
 
@Zoidberg Hooray for Zoidberg!
 
1:43 AM
@melak47 G'night.
 
night
 
@melak47 gn
 
@Zoidberg What's next. Hello world?
:P
 
user142019
@StackedCrooked well I'm testing it using Hello world yes. :P
 
user142019
var server = new HttpServer();
server.RequestHandler = async (HttpRequest request) => {
    var body = @"<h1>Hello, world!</h1>";

    var response = new HttpResponse();
    response.Headers["content-type"] = "text/html";
    response.BodyStream = new MemoryStream(UTF8Encoding.UTF8.GetBytes(body));
    return response;
};
server.Run("127.0.0.1", 1337);
 
1:44 AM
JavaScript?
No.
 
C#
omg
 
C# has var now? That's nice.
 
user142019
It's like auto.
 
Since ages
 
user142019
It's not dynamic typing. :P
 
1:45 AM
@StackedCrooked wut
 
user142019
There is dynamic for duck typing.
 
Last time I used C# was in 2004 or 2005.
 
To be honest var kind of pisses me off sometimes.
 
@StackedCrooked It has massively improved since then
@Rapptz When?
 
Type inference is always good
 
1:46 AM
Hey, how the can the dot operator be used on a pointer?: if (!g_handler.get())
return NULL;
return g_handler->GetBrowser();
 
@Cicada like when I'm trying to learn to do something and I look it up online and then they use var and I don't know what the hell var is supposed to be
 
user142019
 
The only time when var could piss you off is when you can't tell the type on your own and in that case you probably shouldn't care
 
Static typing is not about spelling everything out
 
user142019
Oh found a bug. :L
 
1:47 AM
Also when it's ambiguous with Controls vs Forms though I guess that's a separate issue
 
@Walkerneo It's not a raw pointer I suppose
 
user142019
HTTP y u a bad protocol.
 
It can be ambiguous?
 
Yeah
 
Ahahahahahahahaha
 
1:48 AM
what
 
user142019
How can type inference be ambiguous in this case.
 
I can understand ambiguity when dealing with polymorphic types
 
With System.Windows.Controls or System.Windows.Forms it can be ambiguous
 
But this is like the simplest form
 
that's unrelated
 
1:49 AM
Trying to eat pizza with a spoon. It isn't going well.
 
Yeah like I said, I guess it's a separate issue.
 
Oh, I still have half of my pizza
 
saying Color will be ambiguous if you have System.Windows.Forms and System.Drawing
 
BTW @BartekBanachewicz I don't know if you've seen this sea-of-memes.com/summary/blog_parts.html
 
it has nothing to do with var
 
user142019
1:49 AM
Who the fuck eats pizza with tools.
 
user142019
Eat pizza with your hands/claws.
 
user1357851
or paws
 
It started out as a Minecraft clone even though somewhere along the way it transformed into MMO :v
 
user1357851
 
user142019
I use var whenever possible.
 
1:50 AM
I'm cleaning my feed subscriptions, so many dead feeds
 
user142019
Same with auto in C++.
 
Why?
 
user142019
Because the compiler knows the types already.
 
user142019
No need for me to repeat them.
 
Yeah but do others?
That's the main issue with it
 
user142019
1:51 AM
As if others ever read my code.
 
@Rapptz It's used more and more
 
The silliest thing ever is T x = new T
 
Also I'm not responsible for the retardedness of other people. Mine is enough.
 
user142019
Also you can see it from context.
 
Yeah the inferred types should be fairly obvious
 
user1357851
1:52 AM
but usually other peoples' stupidity affect you
 
If not, then you probably have bigger problem than lack of spelled out types
 
user142019
And if you use Visual Studio (which most C# people do anyway) you can have it tell you the type.
 
Well, I only had the var issue when dealing with Bitmaps.
 
seriously type inference is awesome
 
So I can't comment outside of that
 
user142019
1:53 AM
Real C# programmers use dynamic for everything.
 
Got rid of 46 feeds
@Rapptz What issue?
Also C# should have a REPL
 
"I don't know what type this is supposed to be"
 
user1357851
my favourite:
 
user1357851
 
@CatPlusPlus Type ambiguity but I'm pretty sure it's unrelated to var
 
user142019
1:54 AM
There is an F# REPL but I don't know about a C# one.
 
user142019
@Rapptz look at the type of the expression you initialize the variable with. :v
 
Nothing beats playing around in REPL
 
user142019
I need an IEnumerable stream.
 
user142019
ChunkedStream
 
user142019
Or rather, the other way around.
 
user142019
1:56 AM
A stream that reads from an IEnumerable.
 
@CatPlusPlus Roslyn has a REPL.
 
user142019
And yield return.
 
user142019
Laziness. \o/
 
And so does Mono now that I think of it
 

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