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23:00
in what way?
user142019
Syndication is meh anyway.
Use Feedburner to convert between the two (also it doesn't matter, because it's something you write exactly once)
hello all
nerding over random answers
@EtiennedeMartel I was immediately lost after "XML document"
Alternatively, you can switch on the template that you instantiate: template struct conditional<is_same<Type1, Type2>::value, details::TheTemplate<3>, TheTemplate<Type3>>::type::TheTemplate;. By calling the dummy template TheTemplate too, the injected class name of one of its specializations is called TheTemplate, so that you in both cases can access ::type::TheTemplate and instantiate whatever class type that is. Similar to stackoverflow.com/a/13332744/34509Johannes Schaub - litb 6 mins ago
23:01
@Kimi Atom feels less "hacked in an afternoon".
:)
But yeah you need a feed if you want anyone to ever bother
Not many people want to go through dozens of websites to see if there's anything new
@DeadMG RSS or Atom's purpose is to give a standardized summary of your site's content. People can then feed that in their reader of choice and see what's new without having to visit your site and see your ads.
It's about :effort:
I don't see ads anyway :v
there are no ads on my site
but I have no idea how to go about serving RSS
user142019
23:05
I prefer even email over RSS.
user142019
And I hate email.
@DeadMG In ASP.NET? Write a small HTTP handler that generates a RSS document.
you lost me at "HTTP handler"
@Zoidberg'-- What
23:07
I'm sure there are asp dot net tutorials about making RSS feeds
You big baby
user142019
I just visit a website whenever I want to visit it. I hate to be notified of something and suddenly have a thousand articles in a list.
Push is better than pull
user142019
I like the idea of Fever but I don't like the idea of it being $30.
user142019
I'm not going to pay $30 for software written in PHP.
newsblur is free and cool
23:12
aw fuckshitballs
note to self: unspecified damage to left knee, don't do that
Fuckarnacriss.
@DeadMG std::joke<arrow>();
@EtiennedeMartel lolwat
@Borgleader Fuck + tabarnack + criss.
You know, that War Z thing is hilarious
@EtiennedeMartel oui mais pk...
23:22
@Borgleader Parce que c'est nice.
@EtiennedeMartel je préfere dumbullshitsauce
@Zoidberg'-- Really?
user142019
@sehe studiefinanciering.
@EtiennedeMartel They're all chat addicts
user142019
23:29
aka your tax money :$
@Zoidberg'-- They weren't so lenient with me. Aren't you supposed to achieve a minimum number of study points?
user142019
Not afaik.
user142019
> Stop je vóór 1 februari met je studie en is dit je eerste jaar met een prestatiebeurs voor hbo of universiteit? Dan wordt je prestatiebeurs van dat studiejaar automatisch een gift.
user142019
Such a waste of money.
bleh
23:34
@Zoidberg'-- Whoa. WHY
user142019
@sehe Ambtenaren.
Translation:
> Do you decide to stop your studies before february 1st, and this is your first 'performance measured' year in (~)college(~)? Then your 'performance based funding' of that year gets automatically converted into a gift.
@Zoidberg'-- Clergymen just execute the 'Hoftoren'. Befehl ist befehl. The question remains: why the strange rules
Higher education is worthless shit
maybe
user142019
@sehe Because politicians are idiots?
Some of them.
user142019
23:38
The ones who make those rules. :)
Evidently
user142019
And then they complain about saving.
@CatPlusPlus I wouldn't say worthless. After all, it's worth 1500$ per semester here.
Why is it that everyone in this room seems to have such a shitty university experience?
user142019
SCHOOL SUCKS
23:39
@NikiC Because university is shitty.
There is another kind of university experience?
just like most, if not all, other formal education.
@CatPlusPlus I think my university experience is reasonably non-shitty
You also develop PHP
(You're a masochist)
@NikiC Well, @DeadMG, @CatPlusPlus and @Zoidberg'-- are by far the most negative people here, so of course they're going to whine about how it sucks.
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23:40
Does that mean that PHP developers are just happier people or what? :P
user142019
@NikiC no, PHP developers don't realize how terrible something can be.
user142019
School is terrible. Teachers don't know what they're talking about. We get Java and PHP. Most classmates are complete noobs. It's not fun at all and I learn almost nothing valuable.
> Instant fix app for Exynos Mem Abuse vulnerability, no root required, reversible
^ Whoa. It would be soooo funny if that app turned out to be a trojan activating and destroying phones on the 21st
People are cool, everything else is bullshit
user142019
Woo I learned the UML syntax for activity diagrams. First thing I actually learned here a week ago.
user142019
23:41
Very useful.
PID controllers
Access reports
Manual integration on papeeer
~computer science~
user142019
We don't even get those things.
@CatPlusPlus You don't like that?
@EtiennedeMartel I'm not sure why, but I don't feel Zoidberg belongs in that list. Sure, it looks like it at the moment.
@NikiC No, who likes that
23:42
@NikiC I can write a program to do integration.
it's a computer science degree, why would you do anything on paper you could use a computer to do?
@sehe He might not be as bad as the others, but he does whine a lot.
Shit, forgot to do my TPS report.
user142019
We get JavaScript and Java and teachers get terminology wrong and tell us to use getters and setters for everything.
@CatPlusPlus Well, I like math. I though you as the Haskell-lover that you are would also enjoy it
@EtiennedeMartel troll != whine; It may look similar
23:43
@NikiC Like math != executing programs on paper.
That said, the three things I like the most about my university were:
1) Good quality beer at low prices
2) The cool people
3) The few paid internships
@DeadMG There is a lot of difference between doing numerical integration (which is trivial) and actually understanding what you are doing
Now if I only knew what the fuck "PC LOAD LETTER" meant.
@Zoidberg'-- Are you having a hard time adjusting expectations? What did you expect? Why don't you let it slide for a bit, get a side job and awesome friends (real ones, in the physical world)?
@NikiC But doing it on paper does not imply the latter whatsoever.
23:44
@Chimera PRESS PLAY ON TAPE
user142019
Here are the things I like about my school:
As executed here it's mostly table replacement (but you can't have the table on you, you have to remember everything) and remembering formulas
user142019
@sehe I expected to be in a class with experienced people and I expected to actually learn something useful.
Memorise everything everything everything
Here are the things I liked about school:
Here are the things I disliked about school:
Everything.
23:45
And then fill 3 pages
@Zoidberg'-- Don't forget you're actually learning useful stuff. It's just not the stuff your getting graded for
@sehe Oh yes, I wouldn't have been able to go through there without my friends.
@sehe That C-64 Band?
user142019
There is one guy in my class who has some experience with Java and C#.
just expanding the fucking formulas over and over again
No, I don't like integration
23:45
@Chimera I guess.
Math is not about remembering formulas either
Wait, guys, guys. Do you actually have friends? Who take the same classes as you?
user142019
@sehe such as?
I have friends, I don't know about those scrubs
Or are you going through it like fucking loners?
23:46
@CatPlusPlus math exams aren't open book there?
Some are
I have no friends. I don't even like myself.
Mostly done by profs that literally don't give a shit about anything anymore
Because I think there's your problem.
@Zoidberg'-- Go to elders parties. Find out what gigs they do. Get yourself embedded early. Get the best possible positions etc. IOW find your own challenge. It's not going to magically find you: only the dull average is going to find you automagically
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23:47
another piece of glass pulled from hand
@DeadMG ouch
heh
@Zoidberg'-- Peer assassination. That was really unexpected - a wise step there. Shows some "practical applicability" thinking.
@EtiennedeMartel The only alternative is the "YOU MUST DRINK YOURSELF TO DEATH EVERY NIGHT" folks.
23:48
Anyway, the people is basically my only bit of motivation left
which I gladly skipped
@DeadMG What did you do? Get into a bar fight?
Because there's a team effort project at the end of this fucking degree to actually get a degree
Maybe I don't hate university because I'm studying physics?
And I'd rather do it with people I already know
23:48
no, I let them drag me out to a nightclub for the first couple of nights and then refused
None of this matters. The world ends on Friday anyways.
@NikiC Zing!
My take on it: if you stay alone, you're gonna have a bad time.
@NikiC So that's why you don't know math
they don't have a definition of social except "Get so drunk you can't recognize your friends."
23:49
:v
@NikiC This somehow reminds me of todays lecture. Does someone know a good book for homogenization multi-scale methods?
user142019
@sehe good point.
@DeadMG You're just prejudiced.
@EtiennedeMartel The bad time had nothing to do with the social environment.
user142019
I just found an unidentified entity in my bellybutton.
23:49
Though to be fair, I'm also studying CS, so it can't be that alone ;)
@EtiennedeMartel I did give it a go.
@CatPlusPlus not sure I got that one
@Zoidberg'-- it's called filth. It's natural. Tends to happen to longhaired people more (learned that on reddit from a link here... once)
Joke: physicists are bad at math
user142019
@sehe hmm, makes sense.
user142019
23:50
But it felt more like crisps.
@Zoidberg'-- Apparently long hair "sheds" and the material accumulates
user142019
I binned it so I cannot identify it anymore.
@DeadMG Actually, it did. Without people to support you, you were left to deal with all that crap on your own. Which is pretty hard on your own. Considering your pessimistic nature, it's no wonder you dropped.
@Zoidberg'-- Entirely possible with your eating habits
user142019
:^D
23:51
@EtiennedeMartel There's nothing that anyone else can do about that crap.
@Zoidberg'-- Wrong. Visit the forensics labs once. It's only 24 km away (Rijswijk)
my relationships to the other people around me won't change the fact that my Unicode lecturer asked me, in my exam, for the fucking codepoint for e with accent.
user142019
@sehe I could also just unbin it.
@DeadMG Hey, at least you can laugh about it with others afterwards.
@CatPlusPlus Good. Joke! Good thing Maxwell equations aren't understood by physicists.
23:52
so what/
@Zoidberg'-- :)
I don't give a shit about that
in case you hadn't noticed
user142019
But opening the trash can is way too much effort for something as useless as identifying an object you found in your bellybutton.
@DeadMG "Unicode lecturer". LOL
Anyway I don't find anything inherently interesting in pure math and mechanical formula grind is even worse
23:53
@DeadMG What accent... éëè? (alt+130, 137, 138)
@CatPlusPlus loool. Physicists are pretty much the only ones who do understand math ^^
You think that
but no :v
@sehe The first.
@NikiC Fraid there is much truth there. At least for many practical values of "understand"
user142019
Understanding math is such an overly amiguous statement.
user142019
23:54
Mathematics have about a billion subsubjects.
@Zoidberg'-- That was my point. I'd say Feynmann would be a fine example of a practical math wizard.
user142019
Feynmann? Is that the guy who invented Feynmann diagrams?
@Zoidberg'-- Maths is to physics, well, maybe like C++ is to C#
user142019
23:55
Feynman diagrams are pictorial representations of the mathematical expressions governing the behavior of subatomic particles. The scheme is named for its inventor, Nobel Prize-winning American physicist Richard Feynman, and was first introduced in 1948. The interaction of sub-atomic particles can be complex and difficult to understand intuitively, and the Feynman diagrams allow for a simple visualization of what would otherwise be a rather arcane and abstract formula. As David Kaiser writes, "since the middle of the 20th century, theoretical physicists have increasingly turned to this to...
Some areas of maths would of course be all pretty and more like lisp or haskell
@Zoidberg'-- As well
@Zoidberg'-- Well, that was hard.
user142019
No wait that was Feynman, not Feynmann.
@Zoidberg'-- Same guy. I must have misspelt
user142019
Oh. Okay.
user142019
23:57
I vectorized a PNG Feynman diagram once for Wikipedia.
@CatPlusPlus I find that rather hard to believe ^^
user142019
@NikiC Do you enjoy writing PHP?
@Zoidberg'-- Yes, I actually do
user142019
I find that rather hard to believe.
@Zoidberg'-- That's nice
user142019
23:59
But that was four years ago or something.
user142019
I was extremely bored.
Maybe I should change the field of study or something
But it's the same bullshit system so
@NikiC hacking is always fun. And systems that are 'open to hacking' are usually more promiscuous. They are must fun to hack with. A bit like duct tape and superglue for DIY projects
@Zoidberg'-- It's a matter of attitude. If you go into it with the prejudice that you have, then you are obviously not going to enjoy it

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