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04:22
@LandonZeKepitelOfGreytBritn Yeah that sa big established company that pays shit
@LandonZeKepitelOfGreytBritn In the EU they offered me like 90k, the US their California subsidiary had a rather offensive interview where they spoke Chinese while I was on the call and despite it aligning directly with my phd were going to offer me like $120k in SF
@LandonZeKepitelOfGreytBritn Yeah never heard anything from Google, occasionally some linkedin spam
@LandonZeKepitelOfGreytBritn btw US invented semiconductor manufacturing and continues to lead...
@LandonZeKepitelOfGreytBritn The chips I work on are US domestic supply chain
actually some Canada, but w/e
@LandonZeKepitelOfGreytBritn btw this is the capitalism, you gotta create motivation for people to work
 
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11:39
@LandonZeKepitelOfGreytBritn But how is working for google going to help you reaching your 1M target, given your current investment strategy?
12:34
@TelKitty have you seen salaries at Google?
@Mikhail For manufacturing you need a lithography machine. Only ASML has one, so not sure the US is really "leading" here. Everybody is just part of a chain.
It's not a matter of outsourcing here. That machine is a matter of knowledge/know-how AFAIK
@LandonZeKepitelOfGreytBritn Enlighten me.
Please don't give me their CEO renumeration, we all know none of us here is getting that job.
12:51
Weird, that's not what google's own career website says. For example, this position that requires you to be a PHD graduate.
In fact I know at least 2 people who switched their job from google to finance IT.
yhea read too quickly
EIther way, you have around 5 years of experience. That's the time needed to do a PhD after your master's where I live and you get up to 200k base comp
So I don't get what point you're trying to make
that's still a significant amount of money for someone with "only" 5years of experience, assuming these 5 years count as real experience
THis being said, I recently heard about a freshly graduated embedded software engineering living in Australia who was offered 160k/annum at a non FAANG
so Australia doesn't seem to be too bad either
In technology, it is hard to find a very good job after reaching 35, unless you already show your worth (i.e. sold your company for millions or hold valuable patents). So the day you graduate to your reaching 35 are your best years in your technology employment. I mean, you can still find a job that pays your well, just not those that are considered 'top notch' jobs.
13:19
@TelKitty euhm... where does this come from? With all due respect, that's proposterous
I should let you find it out in real life.
there are exceptions to that but that requires you to be a known name in software development
@TelKitty I m past thirties myself and this doesn't make sense
and I have never seen/heard this
perhaps what you mean is that it's very hard to only start climbing the corporate ladder past 35 to get to these high positions?
13:35
@ratchetfreak I will classify that as 'already show own worth'?
(Sometimes I get paranoid of all those people who lurk in these chatrooms but never or hardly ever utter a word)
and I do tend to skim over such posts and tend to assume my objection to the general gist which is worth mentioning wasn't addressed already
even if it actually was and I missed it
 
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19:01
@LandonZeKepitelOfGreytBritn yeah I interviewed with them for this workflow in California. That being said there are alternatives to euv.
@LandonZeKepitelOfGreytBritn for example Zeiss does all their innovative and meditec work in the bay area
19:55
Ok this is surreal - I came here to hangout and see about picking up more on C++ subjects and you're all talking about the company I work for...
20:29
@JSWulf imagine how i used to feel when anybody would mention nvidia :-)
@Mikhail I imagine that happens more often to you than to me!

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