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09:10
Anyone else get a problem when trying to access Google News? The GMail etc all seems to be OK, but clicking on 'News' just gives the 'Circling arrow of server death':(
Meh - it's my crappy ISP/DNS then, or Firefox.
not sure. Twitter maintains he twote that at 2:15am
(Oh well. Twitter)
Says 3 minutes ago here.
Also @Horse_ebooks is awesome.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Wow. Twitter timezone FAIL
09:19
@sehe They give you time travel and you complain? Grown-ups these days.
lol at edit
You ll discover in just a few short minutes the nutritional value of tomatoes
^ I'm not sure I get it. I guess that's the point
@Horse_ebooks is a widely followed spam Twitter account and Internet phenomenon. The account is intended to promote low-quality e-books, but is known for its amusing non sequiturs, an apparent effort to evade spam detection. Overview Horse ebooks tweets fragments of modified text copied from other sources, mixed with occasional promotional links to websites selling e-books associated with the affiliate marketing company ClickBank. Its output has been described as "strangely poetic" and as "cryptic missives that read like Zen koans which have been dropped on a computer keyboard from a gr...
like Zen koans? Urff. Tooo. Much. Credit.
@sehe twote <--- is that even a word??
@TonyTheLion Yes. I use it. Technically, it's a conjugation of 'to tweet'
09:22
dafuq?
@sehe Better than 'twatted'
@MartinJames Depends on context
@thecoshman rare where I live now yes
To twat: ....
dat verb needs a definition
@R.MartinhoFernandes Shame it got deleted. I'd have loved to have a comment thread there
> Please forgive me if i sound real noobish, this is my first stab at C++
we do not forgive...
especially noobs :P
09:24
@TonyTheLion 'dat' needs a definition and a verb (datting: the act of using 'dat' in informal written English)
@TonyTheLion In the back!
I was referring to the line above
@sehe lol
@sehe pushing it: what you're doing.
@TonyTheLion So he stabs C++, and then comes back crying for help?
@R.MartinhoFernandes In the back!
Oh hey, must-star:
> Requiem for C (talk)
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'To twat': Give a good pezzling, smashing, beating, roughing up and general re-education by physical means, ["We gave that moronic West Ham fan a right twatting on the pub car park" ].
Wow, my extremely convoluted autoexpand file (tm) actually works
09:28
@MartinJames I was going to check what UD has to say, but on second thought, I won't.
@sehe Oh, fuck H.264.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Amazed you don't have it memorized
@TonyTheLion fresh meat or people?
what are you getting at?
09:29
@R.MartinhoFernandes Can't play it? Opera/Linux has no problem with it
@R.MartinhoFernandes Also, I just started the vid. The man is wacko :)
@sehe Do you have Flash?
AFAIK, Opera only supports the free formats.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Probably
@sehe No problem with H.264 videos here, either. Seems to be a problem restricted to artificial life-forms.
AFAIK Chrome is the only browser that isn't in a freaking war over video formats.
H.264/MPEG-4 Part 10 or AVC (Advanced Video Coding) is a standard for video compression, and is currently one of the most commonly used formats for the recording, compression, and distribution of high definition video. The final drafting work on the first version of the standard was completed in May 2003. H.264/MPEG-4 AVC is a block-oriented motion-compensation-based codec standard developed by the ITU-T Video Coding Experts Group (VCEG) together with the International Organization for Standardization (ISO)/International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC) joint working group, the Moving Pic...
ah now I know what you're talking about
09:32
IE and Safari? Only patented. FF and Opera? Only free.
only a robot would spew out some random numbers and letters and it actually means something
@R.MartinhoFernandes I wasn't aware of anything like that. Other than, maybe, Dillo not supporting Silverlight :)
oh my K.3654 doesn't work? euh what.
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm afraid I have to contradict that. Or you might mean "out of the box" - which is, irrelevant, really
I don't want to install Flash.
09:33
@TonyTheLion You failed to make that an open standard, or FF would support it
@R.MartinhoFernandes Wokay
@sehe Oh, but Chrome is planning to get into the freaking war anyway. They announced they're dropping H.264 in the future.
@sehe lol
@sehe Actually, it's more complicated than that. Flash doesn't seem to want to install itself. I'm not trying more than three times.
Amost anything is better than that 'wtv' format that W7 spews out from its Media Centre on our TV server. That won't even play on my Vista 64. Has to be manually converted from the new crap format to an older crap format that I can then play.
@R.MartinhoFernandes surprised. I had it 'not-work' for vague reasons in the past, but installing was always a breeze. Like 'click here, now click here, done'. AFAIR
09:38
It halts at 47% installation claiming it could not contact the mothership or something. So fuck them.
(but I have a thing for forgetting minor trouble. I remember big annoyances. Bears are like that: once you get them irritated, they won't forgive easily)
I might have to install Chrome again...
urgh XML schema's and UML diagrams.
I never found UML any useful.
oh look
is that the daknok that rage quit on us a while back?
09:43
Yeah, he's a pussy.
Well, thank you! :D
so what exactly got you to got you to go off so badly you had to quit on us?
also change that gravatar. it's terrible
General pissedoffness, I'd guess.
o/
meh, I've been pissed off about what people have said this place a few times, but I never actually completely quit
@jalf so you play that one game on Steam quite a lot. Must be a good game eh?
09:45
I quit because of stupid mods removing my totally legit comments for the whatever’th time.
@jalf That a smiley?
@TonyTheLion which game?
@jalf Dark Souls
I’m only back for the Lounge, and answering a few Haskell or Python questions.
@R.MartinhoFernandes it's someone waving an arm in greeting
09:46
Welcome back!
@jalf with a LOT of imagination
@TonyTheLion Oh, that. Yeah, having a ton of fun with it, to be honest
@TonyTheLion \o/
Not buying it. Don't try to tell me how good it is. No games till Xmas.
that's someone going "yay" and raising both arms
09:46
@jalf I figured as much
@jalf ah I see
most useful thing I learned today, a new emoticon
that's not to be sneezed at
I watched that talk from Scott Meyers yesterday, very enlightening I thought
anybody else watched it yet?
I'm kind of tired of hearing about rvalue refs.
yea well, I hadn't quite understood it fully, and this definitely helped
@daknøk Welcome home!
09:48
lol thanks :P
I had a weird sleep last night. I woke up a few times, cause of strange dreams.
awkward
welcome back @daknøk
09:50
Nope.
you have to tell now
I don't remember my dreams
Stop lying.
09:50
Meh, lousy cop-out.
so kinda hard to tell, the only thing I remember is that they were strange and I woke up because of them
lol, so many people are going to be confused when they watch that out of context
I'm not even gonna watch it
cause you suck.
@TonyTheLion bullshit.
@TonyTheLion ¬_¬ you son of a bitch
09:52
nope
I once dreamt that I was investigating a friend's murder. Turned out he had died by accidentally opening the closet of a rich guy that kept his camel collection there. He died in the stampede.
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@TonyTheLion your mother is a goose and your father smell of elder berries!
That was the part of the dream that made the most sense.
@TonyTheLion only vacuum cleaners do that.
Why do robots dream.
@daknøk didn't you delete your account?
09:53
@daknøk straws. you know of them?
cost us some rep?
@LuchianGrigore I did.
@thecoshman oh yea. I knew that.
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? is a science fiction novel by American writer Philip K. Dick. First published in 1968, the book served as the primary basis for the 1982 film Blade Runner. The novel is set in a post-apocalyptic near future, where Earth and its populations have been damaged greatly by nuclear war during World War Terminus. Most types of animals are endangered or extinct due to extreme radiation poisoning from the war. To own an animal is a sign of status, but what is emphasized more is the empathic emotions humans experience towards an animal. The main plot follows Ric...
#undef is a terrible monster
09:53
@LuchianGrigore member for 2 days
And I hate it so much
@LuchianGrigore it did, the little shite :P
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@LuchianGrigore Oh lol I’ll upvote some things soon.
09:54
Oh, yeah, btw, I lost no rep when you left.
@daknøk ¬_¬ you did have an upvote all all of my questions and answers...
me neither
stern look of disapproval
you never upvoted me, you bastard
@TonyTheLion I'm reading the article instead
09:54
@R.MartinhoFernandes why would you? only quality get's upvotes :D /cc @TonyTheLion
@sehe ah ok
@R.MartinhoFernandes I’m sorry. Just didn’t ever see a post of you.
and he doesn't have enough activity yet to be downvoted and brought down to under 20 rep...
@thecoshman lolwut
@daknøk yeah, you totally need to go through all my stuff and re-upvote it
09:55
@TonyTheLion FTFY
I think you owe us at least one upvote each just for the mere fact you quit on us.
Go on.
@thecoshman cough I earn more than twenty times your salary cough I mean rep.
@daknøk don't upvote me, that way I won't lose rep when you start PMS'ing and leave again.
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09:56
Lulz.
@R.MartinhoFernandes you don't deserve a ... penny?... of it
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@R.MartinhoFernandes I can't find it in my out folder nor in the drafts. Damn. I'll try to gather that information again and resend it ASAP.
@R.MartinhoFernandes it would have been nice if e.g. porcupine tree could have re-recorded the old camel albums with a more modern sound
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@R.MartinhoFernandes I am always watching you boys. You know that.
that's hi-fucking-larious ROFLMAO & dieing
(even though you totally made that up, 'cause, you're a robot)
@sbi That sounds like a sick pervert thing now
09:57
@sbi Well, some good came out of that. Turns out they needed some more info to wire the travel costs and the e-mail requesting that was in the spam folder. If you had not not sent that e-mail I would never find it.
@sehe paedophile is the word you are looking for :P
@sehe No, really. I used to write down my dreams because memory of them fades quickly once you wake up.
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@sehe Well, chatting on my phone is painful, but I can always read the transcripts.
@thecoshman You mean, staws?
btw @sbi, were you late to work this morning ?
09:58
I remember that one, because I wrote it down.
@sehe yes I do, for fuck sake
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't follow... wrote?
Since you mentioned alarm clock failure and someone remarked your absence.
fuck sake
1 min ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
@sehe No, really. I used to write down my dreams because memory of them fades quickly once you wake up.
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TIL that the alarm clock app fails when my phone dies from drained batteries. Who'd have thought?
09:59
@sbi erm. we notussed
@sehe what's the word I am after?
@sehe ¬_¬ is that a dig at me?
@thecoshman You're correct this time.
It was just a non-thecosh-y joke.
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@sehe So why was @kbok asking?
@R.MartinhoFernandes :'(
@ThePhD oh, you've not met #define yet, I wager?
@thecoshman self-centered, maybe?
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10:01
@thecoshman No, I didn't. But @Xeo did for me. :)
@sbi Well, alarm clock failure doesn't necessarily means being late. Some people get up more than three hours before they go to work.
There really should be a #dontinclude for C++, just for the shits
@sbi oh, he didn't pay attention :)
I, for sure, am not among them.
@sehe I hadn't noticed
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10:02
@kbok Yeah, but nobody goes to work three hours before they get up!
@thecoshman You're joking, but I'd so use that if I had it.
@thecoshman I'd prefer to have hide namespace::member or similar :) (not very realistic, but hey)
@R.MartinhoFernandes no I really do think they should have added it
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@TonyTheLion Will you scoundrel finally reveal what's your twitter name?
lol, "hand't"
10:03
2 hours ago, by Tony The Lion
@LuchianGrigore I don't do twitter
@sbi I... don't get it
@R.MartinhoFernandes piwut tohk
@R.MartinhoFernandes shut it
@sbi prostitutes? sleep related test subjects?
yesterday, by sehe
@thecoshman Or get the fuck out :)
10:04
Are you saying hookers go to "work" asleep?
@thecoshman that's the impotent client again, then?
@R.MartinhoFernandes nothing was said about sleep, just getting up, which I take to mean getting out of bed
Mmm. I better run to school. 4minutes till the bell :)
Wait, who kidnapped sehe? Why is he in school?
10:05
You go to school?
@sehe school? I figured you where at least at uni
@sbi I thought I already said that last time, I don't do twitter anymore. Also calling me names doesn't make me in the least bit more inclined to even remotely consider making a twitter account to give out here.
@sehe I have met #define and ti is a saint. But only now have I realized #undef doesn't just undefine the last instance of the definition. It undefines it -forever- and all eternity. Which makes sense, but I really wasn't thinking and didn't see it coming.
@ThePhD ¬_¬ it seems rather self explanatory, your fault really
10:06
#define saint bitch
@ThePhD I think you accidentally desrever a word
@thecoshman ... Uh. Desrever?
You misspelled a word.
@ThePhD along the same lines as 'you accidentally a word'
10:09
OH I spelled it wrong.
But it's too late to edit it.
.... My shame, stuck in the transcript for all eternity. :c
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@TonyTheLion You do read, though? Also, "scoundrel" isn't really a name as such...
@ThePhD Apply std::reverse().
@sbi yes cause there was a tweet link in this room, so I clicked on it, and got side tracked reading.
@ThePhD you mean if I do #define A #undef A #define A A is undefined ?
nevertheless, I wouldn't know what to write on a Twitter feed
@ThePhD It's semi-official policy around here to only point out typos after two minutes, so the OP is shamed for all eternity.
10:10
@TonyTheLion "lol"
how shit my day was? But I already write that here. so pointless.
@kbok a lol feed.
@TonyTheLion As if that was a problem twitter.com/Horse_ebooks (100k+ followers)
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh gawd.
I should make a i_only_say_lol feed
twitter.com/tonylololol
@kbok A will be fine in that case, but what I had done is specify a #define on the command line when compiling. Then there was a #undef in the code somewhere near the top. It was making all my dllexport into dllimport. And that's what's been plaguing my code for the last week.
10:12
@TonyTheLion Sounds like one of those stupid reddit novelty accounts.
@R.MartinhoFernandes it was
quite a popular one
I think there's only one I like, AWildSketchAppeared.
then there's the Shitty_Watercolor
which is ok
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol, did you try it with captions on?
anyways back to work.
10:13
WHEW almost let a typo get by me.
Double shame twice in a row so quickly?
@TonyTheLion is
I'd never be able to live it down.
@thecoshman Why the fuck would you try that? lol
@ThePhD Oh yeah, well, it makes sense indeed.
@R.MartinhoFernandes comments
10:14
lol
.... What is that, I... don't....
@ThePhD Don't worry much about it. You'd have to work really hard to beat @thecosh.
@R.MartinhoFernandes yay! I is the besterist!
what is this i don't even
The faces.
The faces are so scary.
Especially the dead-center one floating underneath that man-woman's left pec.
It's staring RIGHT at you.
Like it's going to jump out and brush your face with its terrible mustache and you know you're going to contract some kind of terrible disease.
10:20
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Q: 0xC0000005: Access violation reading location

user1712426class Q { Q::Q(); } class_A.h Class A :public D { A::A(){B<Q>::Register_C();} } Class_D.h class D : public G { public: foo(E* c_object){ this->foo2(E* c_object) } } } Class_G.h class G : public Z { public: struct obj_cont{ E::pointer e_object; }...

too localised
Ouch, -6.
... I should go try answering a question again.
Downvotes on questions are free ! woo !
@kbok they are?
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@thecoshman -2 rep?
@GamErix that's what I thought...
10:25
@thecoshman Yes, it was part of a Q valuation campaign.
@kbok I see...
I can't answer any of these questions. I suck.
Hi.
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@TonyTheLion Ah, now I understand!
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Q: Looking for perfect logic in vb.net

Irvin DuaI have situation like that, If number is less than 1000, 20 come up 1001-2000 ,40 come up 2001-3000, 60 come up in another text box I am looking for a proper formula, Please help If number <...

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10:28
@R.MartinhoFernandes I never saw the point in that. Maybe I am too... chronologically gifted.
So, how can I create a Autotest that tests SWIG bindings Python module of my library?
@sbi Trying make "old" sound like a good thing?
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@R.MartinhoFernandes It's a Pratchett quote!
I am slightly unsure how to set it up so that the Python process finds the bindings modules.
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Anyway, I meant to ask: Can I return an array by reference from a class template's member function? The array size is a template param.
10:29
going to have a tired arm what with all this flagging :D
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, well, what's the syntax for that?
@sbi ofc
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I might need a typedef to not to lose my sanity, I suppose?
Yeah.
That's what do, (or use alias in C++11)
10:31
@sbi what is the actual type of the array, ie std::array or some sort of pointer array?
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@thecoshman char buffer[BufSize]
@R.MartinhoFernandes No C++11 here.
But if you want teh nitty gritty, it's T (&f)()[N], I think.
@sbi and you want to move it, or return access to it?
Wonder if puppy made it to the airport in one piece...
Anyway, I can't stress typedef enough.
10:32
@TonyTheLion one very shaky piece maybe
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template<std::size_t BufSize>
class something {
public:
  const ?? get_buffer() const
  {
    return buffer;
  }
private:
  char buffer[BufSIze];
};
@TonyTheLion Should have arrived sometime around now +-30 minutes.
he seemed rather nervous
@sbi const char (&get_buffer)()[N] const.
@sbi I would use a typedef.
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10:34
@R.MartinhoFernandes OMG. I knew the [N] part would have to go behind the function's name somewhere, and I also knew there would be a & involved at a highly unusual place, but I would have never been able to come up with this.
@sbi I'm not sure if the [N] comes before or after the const, though.
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, I had just seen that the & was superfluous in that.
@R.MartinhoFernandes strangest syntax I've ever seen. What does the & do in there?
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@TonyTheLion Reference.
@sbi Why complicate? typedef char buffer_type[N]; is good enough for const buffer_type& get_buffer() const;
@sbi I think so.
woah that's convoluted
@R.MartinhoFernandes He included the reference in the typedef initially
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@TonyTheLion You call C declaration syntax convoluted? That's an euphemism if I ever saw one.
10:37
lol
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@kbok Yeah, but I did so accidentally. And the robot is right, that's dumb.
@sbi Be glad you don't have to do this for a function template. You can't typedef there. (And you can't use C++11 template aliases...)
I could call it fucked up too.
if you like that better
@sbi Fair enough
template <typename T, std::size_t N>
using c_array = T[N]; // does wonders
10:39
I didn't even knew it was possible.
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Enthusiastic Programmers my ass.
@kbok It isn't for me. That's C++11.
I just validated the whole bunch. I'm grumpy today.
@sbi oh. :(
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@R.MartinhoFernandes So did I. So am I.
@sbi That won't stop me from mentioning it :P
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10:40
Oh wonder, a grumpy robot! What a sight!
Did I mention that alias templates are probably my favourite feature?
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@R.MartinhoFernandes I didn't object to that.
It's like, really simple, but so awesome.
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Anyway, I'll go for lunch and then I'll wrap up this code. Thanks, guys!
10:42
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Q: Convert int to 16bit float (half precision floating point) in c++

RossHow can I convert an integer to a half precision float (which is to be stored into an array unsigned char[2]). The range to the input int will be from 1-65535. Precision is really not a concern. I am doing something similar for converting to 16bit int into an unsigned char[2], but I understand t...

I didn't even knew half-precision floats existed.
@kbok depends on the platform, of course. :)
they are fairly common on GPUs
So usually when people want to convert to/from half-floats, it's because they're pushing data to/from GPU memory
'Precision is really not a concern' - just as well, really:)|
Precision is really not a concern? Well, use an integer then.
Or better yet, use a bool.
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10:45
@ScoRpion... so... you're just letting us know that you asked a question? Thanks, I guess
@ScoRpion... I’m sorry, I can’t downvote yet.
By popular request.
@daknøk I'll do it for you, I'm in good mood today.
Hehe :p
Time to answer some questions to get downvoting powers.
I'm gonna, too. I want close votes.
10:47
@daknøk or not delete your account in the first place
Totally unrelated: time to downvote some answers to prevent downvoting powers being granted.
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@ScoRpion... It's rude to drop-in, drop a question link and then immediately go away.
(just coming in from nowhere and dropping a link is rude by itself; we didn't ask for spam, and I'm sure neither did the other rooms you posted that link to)
yea where's those Netizen manners?
he scared everyone off

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