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12:21 AM
@Mikhail Wow this turned into something unexpected
 
Yeah, I'm overwhelmed by FOMO
except its more like MO
Now we gotta help our Fintech friends find new jobs :-)
 
I was reading on a news article on how "A horde of traders on Reddit that see themselves as sticking it to the establishment by hunting for heavily shorted stocks is adding billions to the wealth of some of the world’s ultra-rich."
Is it a horde of traders or a herd of traders?
Are those traders capable of independent thinking?
 
The NASDAQ stopped trading the stock that's actually crazy
 
Not crazy, if the companies on the other side of the short experience infinite losses, they will simply become insolvent, SEC insurance kicks in, and the WSB guys who made 1 billion get the SEC insured amount (like $250k).
 
I almost would have thought 'NASDAQ stops trading because people are losing money' would be the title of an article in the Onion.
 
12:31 AM
Meh, this is actually a pretty good protective measure.
also its probably not SEC insured amount, its like SICP or some other agency that resembles SSH commands
 
Yeah, but stopping the trading on a company for infinite growth is crazy.
 
Stock market can halt trading on stock either when a stock's price rises or falls too fast.
 
its not growth
One reading of the situation is that a company can't be expected to honor an impossible contract
 
@Mikhail What is growth?
 
?
 
12:37 AM
Become a good trader, you need to rely on keen sight on fundamentals, not on emotions. Some trader depend their trading strategy on what others do, I don't think that is a good strategy.
 
stock price (growth) is based on demand. The stock is in demand (be it artificial) so the current price = growth.
 
Some people can manipulate the market, if you use demand as your sole consideration, you will be tricked and become the victim when the next bloodshed comes.
 
If growth was based on quarterly reports instead of stock manipulation then you could argue that most companies haven't seen real "growth" in years.
 
I suspect that many companies do 'creative accounting'.
 
^all
 
12:43 AM
Also many companies with 1000+ employees go from boom to bust within 1/3 of normal human life span.
 
If you're a publicly-traded company you almost have to. Because if your stock valuation doesn't indicate growth from the previous year then people will pull out of your company and as people pull out value drops and as value drops people pull out.
 
A recent study by McKinsey found that the average life-span of companies listed in Standard & Poor’s 500 was 61 years in 1958. Today, it is less than 18 years. McKinsey believes that, in 2027, 75% of the companies currently quoted on the S&P 500 will have disappeared.
 
interesting
I honestly can't believe this situation is happening
 
 
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1:58 AM
"Nevertheless, the largest market capitalizations today have new names: Apple, Alphabet, Microsoft or Amazon."
Seems to me that it's stretching a point a bit to call Apple and Microsoft "new". Both of them have been around since the 1970s, so they're over 40 years old already. Microsoft has been publicly traded since 1986, and Apple since 1980, so around 35 and 40 years respectively. Shorter than companies by IBM, but if he wanted to talk about "new" he should have stuck to companies that have existed (or at least been publicly traded) for less than, say, 20 years. As it is now, he's naming
 
@Morwenn
 
@JerryCoffin This might tick your fancy - it's a database of 50 years of FORTUNE's list of America's largest corporations.
Only to 2005 though.
GE seems to be doing really well throughout the years. Thomas Edison is a really good business man and self marketer.
OMG, I have just found out that 'International Business Machines Corporation' is IBM :x
 
2:23 AM
Idk GE is down to a 1/3 of what it was five years ago but I think their third quarter this year is probably going to look better (I don't own GE).
It was trading undervalued for awhile
 
 
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4:32 AM
@Morwenn You asked me to remind you of this :)
I only came by it because I was cleaning up S3 buckets
 
5:20 AM
@sehe Better late than never!
 
 
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9:24 AM
I fell for the UB
#define LOG2UINT(X) ((unsigned)(8 * sizeof(unsigned int) - __builtin_clz((X))))
Who can find the odd corner case in this code?
 
9:56 AM
X == 0
@Mikhail Thanks, I remember someone asking me for the high-res image and I wasn't sure who it was
@sehe sounds a bit like bossa nova
definitely not the kind of music I enjoy expect as background music in movies and games when it feels appropriate x)
 
 
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3:53 PM
@Morwenn no worries. Yeah it's a kind of latin, not bossa though. I don't know really. Chacha? It's actually an outlier for the bigband (because it's usually either swing or funk).
I basically stopped playing the band since Covid, because I tried to prioritize payd gigs (quid non... ;( )
@Morwenn You won't mind me deleting this then (in due time, yesterday's garbage collection run hsa finished)
 
My own band is pretty much inactive right now
I don't mind it
 
Yeah it's sad. I use Jamulus to play with small subsections though
Worth a shot if you enjoy just jamming with a particular person over the internet. Have cables and good ping, and it works pretty well.
 
The kind of music we play is too melody-centered to be correctly jammed :/
 
 
We use internet for tabletop RPGs instead :p
 
3:56 PM
@Morwenn How could that be? You can sing together? ^ the above is a choir that my wife is member of that jammed using Jamulus.
@Morwenn Arguably a good change of course
 
@sehe singing? who does that, only growl x)
The only thing we tried that worked was that app that added delay to jam correctly
 
Growling is singing, just widen the definitions
@Morwenn Jamulus "does that" but focuses on automatically minimizing the delay. It ends up <40ms, which surprisingly work
 
but tbh I don't even care that much about rehearsals and jamming, I just want to play at concerts again
 
Yeah it's weird without "goals". I do care about jamming though. Something about it gets the brain chemicals running again
 
I want the live energy, the beer, the backstage randomness, the other bands to meet, all the cool organizing staff, etc.
Even our next album (originally announced for the end of 2018, even though end of 2019 would have been more credible) is not really going anywhere currently
 
3:59 PM
Oh, we have randomness. I think I can link you a jam with a singer, and there's LOTS of banter in between the "takes" (non of which have any goal, they're just excuses to hang out)
 
Everything is written, but finding an affordable studio in pandemic time for 8 musicians and I don't know how many instruments? Nah, motivation isn't there
I mean the social randomness of metal concerts
It's generally a happy mess
 
:)
 
I think I haven't played the recorder at all in the last 6 months
Concerts, bars and restaurants are definitely the things I miss the most right now ^^'
 
We're pretty different :) I don't miss the recorder at all
SCNR
I'm at home to be at home. I do miss all the external incentives to organize stuff
 
Oh, I never liked organizing
But jumping on things organized by others? sure
And yet I've gotten a lot out of the lockdowns and general stay-at-home even without those
I'm definitely a better cook than a year ago, learnt to remember my dreams, tinkered a bit, learnt to use a bunch of my father's tools, progressed in some of my personal projects, took the time to try and identify (and sometimes use) most of the plants in my garden, etc.
It's definitely not just wasted time
 
4:10 PM
@Morwenn Oh. We're similar after all:)
 
haha
 
I just sent a private link to an 1 April '20 jam over discord
 
5:10 PM
All my GME orders were cancelled, the system is rigged.
 
5:58 PM
silly @Mikhail, you're not allowed to make money on the market. Market money is for big companies.
 
@Mikhail I can see at least 2, right off. @Morwenn identified one. Another would be CHAR_BIT != 8 (which kind of hints that you would want to use CHAR_BIT rather than 8 there).
 
6:51 PM
@NicoVerrijdt Hehe. Isn't it always like this. 80% of a programmer's life is checking input and doubting assumptions :) Glad you found it — sehe 12 secs ago
Oh my
 
7:28 PM
youre in academia right?
 
7:51 PM
@Borgleader Wasn't take a keystone belief of Aaron Swartz?
*that
 
I do not know
 
@Borgleader I just got out but might has an adjunct professor post coming up, basically whoever claims me gets my 1k citations.
 
I think I remember reading an article about this a while back. let me see if I can find it.
 
@Borgleader I made so much money, but also so much of it is stuck in Robin Hood, fucking system is rigged.
I tried to double down, and transfer funds. I wasn't able to buy stock but the transfer came through. So now I have a large balance on the app but can't invest it in anything I understand.
 
Wow, finding that was easier then I thought
 
7:57 PM
I have no respect for Aaron Swartz, killing yourself isn't a way to support your choosen cause.
Also open access journals destroyed science because there is no more financial incentive to publish quality or even interesting work.
 
I don't think you have many options when the weight of the US government is going up against you but I see what you're saying.
 
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Today I heard a very nice Brazilian expression:
 
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todo dia é domingo
 
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I which means « every day is sunday »
 
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I think I should start living more like that
 
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8:04 PM
Commuting 5-6h a day for work, having a very annoying client, going to uni and renovating my place is starting to become much. It s been more than a year now... 5h commutes every day is daily stuff for me since 3+ years
 
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Something gotta change
 
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I d like ro keep up with this untill january 2022 max. After that i ll definitely stop those crazy commutes, at least
 
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I ll probably also change industry. I m tired of aerospace and defence. And tired of just writing application software in C userspace. Maybe i d switch to one of the following: vhdl, computervision/ai, c++
 
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Something lucrative, which is not simply userspace C stuff
 
8:21 PM
@Mikhail Citadel Securities, a major client to Robinhood and a major investor in Melvin Capital. What, market manipulation? No, they're totally stopping trading to protect your money.
 
Ugg, this is all Jerry's fault
Robinhood potentially made a bunch more money, as I doubt I'm the only person who transferred money into the app but can't spend it.
 
@Mikhail Wait...what?
 
I can't believe you did it
 
8:36 PM
@CupOfJava Did what?
 
absolutely despicable
 
 
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11:06 PM
@Mikhail Dude, that is a truly despicable statement.
 
@CaptainGiraffe No its not.
 
We as a community, as neighbours, should promote the well being of our peers.
@Mikhail You are my neighbor.
 
11:25 PM
@Mikhail Please don't conflate his cause with his mental state.
 
@CaptainGiraffe Sometimes when you take on a cause you need to be "strong" for the cause.
 
In politics, outlive your opponent is a way to win.
 
@Mikhail Please explain how this pertains to Aarons suicide.
 
He choose to kill himself instead of continue the legal proceedings?
 
I can't fathom how that is your conclusion. like he did a conscious if else. You are one cold mf.
 
11:40 PM
If he kills himself he doesn't have to fight for what he supposedly believes in? The dude choose some aletory issue, and then killed himself when he encountered a modicum of heat. Don't try to become an activist if you aren't mentally stable.
I mean he initiated a criminal action to supposedly challenge a broken a system and then got sad, or something.
Even Bradley Manning who were fighting for much more important things lasted longer.
Not to mention Bradley actually got those documents leaked.
Yeah, so honoring Aaron seems like honoring weakness.
 

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