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00:55
@Mikhail: Plato was started UIUC, but Control Data got involved pretty heavily as well.
Are you insane! Outlook implemented that last semester. I had 79 actual replies, the thread reported it as 12. I scroll down, see 7 more replies.
Ok outlook tells me I have 23 items in this view.
Oh I have fold outs on this scrolling view; thats unusual.
two months later I learn I have "Click here" to do a fuckin "tail -n 5"

So inside a scroll view, we have crap threads, #messages in thread is the messages shown. Arbitrary threads within. still showing 23 items.
I'm just a little bit bitter.
@Mikhail Become a teacher, make tons of money
Move to Zimbabwe, ask to be paid in cash, only accept low denominations, make tons of money
@Mikhail I prefer my money not to be measured in kilograms
If ya chew it, you can try calories!
01:12
That's something for the puzzling exchange.
 
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02:18
I have an excellent idea - if your country has an incredulously high inflation rate, make your currency with the same material as good quality toilet paper. This way, your currency will be tied to toilet paper price and wouldn't go much cheaper.
Telkitty - having excellent ideas since 19XX. </Shameless_self_promotion>
 
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07:37
That feel when its 3:00 am you're not sure why assigning a const std::shared_ptr& is allowed, if the smart pointer needs to perform a reference count increment (and the object passed isn't constant).
 
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12:42
I am forced to wear a mask inside shopping centre lately, I literally panicked and feel like "I can't breath". I am too obedient. There are only 19 locally acquired covid-19 cases this week amongst more than 7 million people in the state in which I am currently living.
what kind of mask are you wearing that it inhibits your breathing?
I tried two types - most common one and 3M one.
try Hanes. lets go full retard.
I am sure noses are designed to breath in air, not in masks.
mouth breathers dont have that problem
12:48
I'm also sure evolution designed your body to sleep in some cave or in some trees and not in a climated house, but alas.
It's easier to adapt to a more comfortable environment than vice versa.
If there are a lot of infected people, or if this disease has high fatality rate, sure. But this feels like a experiment to test how obedient fellow guinea pigs are. You can still travel out of Australia and back into it for your business reasons or in the national interest. Even to highly infected areas. Overseas travellers infection rate were 200+ times higher.
nwp
nwp
You really think they need to know how much shit people are willing to put up with and this is the method they chose to test it?
Not in like a small town or via psychological studies, but by faking a dangerous situation?
If you want soup to stop boiling, take out the fire. Fanning cold air on the soup would not do much. Yes, people should still be able to come to Australia, but isolate them on islands with facility first.
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I don't know why I even try. You completely ignored the question.
@nwp Countries use propaganda to cause fear in their people for their governments benefit ALLLLL the times. Welcome to real world.
Have you been reading news?
13:02
I mean it's true that really good data on the effectiveness of masks is hard to come by (that'll probably change in the future). But it's also not like wearing a mask is some huge burden with terrible ramifications. A lot of the mandates are just politicians covering their ass. Do you want to be the politician not having mask mandates and then and outbreak happens?
But wearing mask is CORRELATED with high infection rate, albeit not cause and effect. More like high infection areas mandate mask wearing.
Also wearing masks also have drawbacks.
nwp
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You claim was that they use mask wearing to figure out how obedient the population is. Asked about it you first dodge into quarantine policies and then now make a different claim about government just wanting to cause fear.
Never mind, I give up. Topic jumping is too powerful, cannot beat.
@PeterT I agree that a lot of the mandate are just politicians covering their asses. But I am surprised why not more people see that.
I think stuff like the security theater in airports is a way larger incursion and more useless than mask mandates
13:22
People are very good at creating useless things. No other creatures can compare.
Isn't there a lot of animals that do a lot of "useless" things, often to attract a mate through some 3rd order derivitive of actual fitness
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"Hey, my chickens are so pretty today! Don't you think they are pretty?"
I am talking about that industry revolution has increased human's productivity by many folds, yet most people are still working long hours while raising less children. A lot of the people must be doing useless work during at least some part of their lives.
Also ... plastic.
13:39
@TelKitty That's because ownership wants more money, so productivity increases always go to management and never to labor
13:51
@Mgetz Capitalists get more money or resources, yes. But it still does not explain why 10 times increase in productivity does not translate to almost 10% working hours.
Or working 1 year and produce enough to last 10 years.
I have hatched this little chick from an egg.
My precious ...
Now I have too many chickens and chicks, I am currently building a safe, comfortable and good looking coop so I can re-locate them to the farm.
@TelKitty because it's all about growth, just like a fish grows to fill it's tank so too does business. Efficiency requires that resources are used to the maximum extent they can be.
 
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17:44
@TelKitty First of all, we do work (considerably) less than most people did before the industrial revolution. At that time, quite a few people's workdays averaged around 12-14 hours a day, six days a week. Second, the vast majority of people at the time lived in what most people today would consider abject poverty. It wasn't particularly rare for a few people to starve to death, especially during a hard winter.
Now, many (most?) people who live in what's considered poverty have not only plenty of food to eat, but cars, modern medicine, cell phones, flat-screen TVs, computers, internet service, and so on and so forth. To a very large extent, our "needs" expand to use up what's (at least easily) available. And it turns out that quite a few people simply get bored if they have too much free time, so they continue to do some sort of work (even if it's purely voluntary) well after they retire.
18:43
Do y'all know of any good blog posts summarizing the tradeoffs of using UNIX Domain Sockets vs Named Pipes for IPC?
Would also love to hear any thoughts or opinions y'all may have, but if you just want to link a blog post that works too.
user7659542
19:25
I have been asked to make a document where i describe peer review guidelines. I m going to just copy paste a part of a book i read on that topic.
user7659542
Is the fact that i just copy paste this into an “official” internal document a bad thing?
19:36
Can you just cite the document?
 
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20:51
@traducerad it is officially plagarism
you shouldn't do it
Meh, checking in Google's style guide isn't plagiarism if you say where you got it.
 
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user7659542
23:03
If I communicate using UDP over a poin-to-point connection. With absolutely nothing between the two parties. Ie no swithc/router/etc
user7659542
What are the chances my packets arrive out of order?
user7659542
Extremely low, no?
I always assumed that out of order occurs when your packets follow different paths. I don't see why the driver or underlying hardware might reorder packets which have been sent in order
@traducerad If you're on a LAN, so there's no router between the source and destination, chances are really good they'll all come through in order. If you're going over the internet through several routers and such to get from one point to another, chances of out of order arrival approaches 100%.
@traducerad Driver and hardware normally won't. Routers will though (even for packets on the same route, in some cases).

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