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12:13 AM
The Five Eyes (FVEY) is an intelligence alliance comprising Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom and the United States. These countries are parties to the multilateral UKUSA Agreement, a treaty for joint cooperation in signals intelligence.The origins of the FVEY can be traced back to the post–World War II period, when the Atlantic Charter was issued by the Allies to lay out their goals for a post-war world. During the course of the Cold War, the ECHELON surveillance system was initially developed by the FVEY to monitor the communications of the former Soviet Union and the Eastern...
Who needs 'intelligence' when we are all too mediocre to travel outside of even a small territory called earth? Universe is vast, galaxy is large, solar system is ... not so big, earth is, oh well ...
 
12:44 AM
Yeah, it only took a pissing competition that nearly brought about nuclear war to fuel enough of advancement to get us off this 'oh well'
 
How do you control this piss competition so it nearly brings about a nuclear war and not a real one before it fuels enough advancement to get some of us off this 'small piece of round rock'?
 
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nwp
12:58 PM
@TelKitty This small piece of round rock is actually pretty big, very friendly compared to what's out there and still fairly empty. It would be stupid to go out there before exploring what's right in front of us.
 
You do know that humans are not at the bottom of the food chain right? Which means we need way more than 1000 square meters of land of vegetation to support 1 person.
And there is limited amount of resources, growing population.
If we have travelled outside of this galaxy, you can tell me that it's stupid to go outside of this planet. For now, I can only say that you are calling the grapes sour.
 
nwp
Well, we know they are pretty sour. Mars doesn't have the nice atmosphere we enjoy and no magnetic field to shield us from radiation. Venus does have a nice atmosphere, but no ground to stand on without burning your feet and we don't know how to build flying cities, never mind self-sustaining. And then it gets even worse for the rest.
 
elo
 
nwp
There surely are nice planets elsewhere, but with our current knowledge we know we cannot survive a trip there. A universal speed limit combined with enormous distances is a very bad combination.
 
1:16 PM
You obviously lack ambition. Who said that we should stop at Mars. Mars is only the beginning.
 
nwp
Mars is a shitty place to be. You should colonize the Antarctic first. It has much better living conditions and if you can't even pull that off you can forget Mars.
 
That's like saying that a child should not leave home but should visit backyard more often instead because backyard is safer and more convenient to the child.
 
No, that's saying that the child should learn to sleep in a tent in the garden before trying to sleep in the street
 
But I agree on the point that we are not ready to send manned ship to Mars, we could start with A.I. robots and bacteria first ...
@Morwenn Oh dear, I hope no child ever have to sleep on the street ...
 
Maybe we'll feel more ready when we stop crashing half of our landers on Mars x)
As long as it's only robot and machines, targeting more distant things is fun
But when there's human lives in the equation it's another problem
 
1:28 PM
Maybe send a small eco system there first? In a enclosed environment consisting of vegetations, bacteria, worms ... and ~cough~ ~cough~ ... maybe chickens?
 
nwp
We should also figure out some other basics first. How to stop a pandemic, how to not have millions of people starve, how to not give a manchild access to nuclear weapons ...
 
Well, not really: while they are all goals we should strive for, they're orthogonal and I don't want to wait forever when we can improve stuff on other fronts
 
What if ... aliens are gigantic and dinosaurs are like chickens to them. Aliens sent dinosaurs to earth for experiment purposes, but realise earth is too small for those creatures, so they took back dinosaurs and send chickens and humans here instead? :x
 
nwp
2:23 PM
@Morwenn Arguably all of these problems have the common solution of having leadership that actually works. Some organization where competent people get to make decisions which are then easy to look up, including the reasons for the decisions. We probably can't afford much in-fighting if we want to progress.
 
"having leadership that actually works" will probably be a problem forever since even leaderships that worked had issues and changed for reason X or Y over time
It is an objective to pursue with high priority, but we can't wait for it to work for everything
 
nwp
2:41 PM
Maybe not for everything, but I feel like attempting a difficult task while failing at the easy task is futile.
It feels like we're trying to make Pong and are failing, so we switch to an MMORPG with perfectly realistic graphics, physics and innovative combat. The argument that we shouldn't let our inability to make Pong stop us from making the MMORPG just isn't convincing.
 
you're comparing apples and oranges though
 
nwp
The part where we fail to colonize the Antarctic and thus shouldn't attempt to colonize Mars seems fair. I suppose the working leadership is not a fair requirement. It's probably possible to achieve that goal without.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah fucking Windows.
I search for a folder on C: and it takes multiple minutes. I open a result, it's not what I wanted, so I go back. It searches again for multiple minutes. I find the next result, but learning from my mistake I use the Rightclick->Save Search function. Guess what it does? It searches again. For multiple minutes.
And the search is saved, apparently, but it doesn't change anything in the behavior. It just searches every time you do something. There also doesn't appear to be any "load search" function.
 
 
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user7659542
7:30 PM
So so, anybody ready to debate me on the usage of malloc?
 
user7659542
on the actions one should undertake in order to safely use malloc on embedded devices
 
sure
 
user7659542
 
user7659542
@Mikhail
 
user7659542
I d rather post the link here instead of copy pasting my entire post here
 
7:35 PM
@traducerad Well one concern about malloc is that it can be a random source of performance issues. Also, so many places let you do malloc during the initialization phase.
 
user7659542
@Mikhail performance is related to the point I made about determinism, if I understand you correctly
 
user7659542
Yes IMO malloc during the init phase is indeed perfectly fine
 
you should write that
Another amusing note is that the stack is dynamic memory (kinda). So, usually when banning malloc, some people ban recursion.
 
user7659542
true
 
user7659542
you can prefault your stack too ;)
 

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