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8:00 PM
I still prefer dead tree books, but there no logical reason to hate on ebooks with all the advantages they have
You're free to shit on ebook prices when they're higher that the paperback ones though
 
In our country there was recently a proposal from a left-wing party that said people should have the right to die (aka be euthanized) once they feel their life has been completed (even if they are healthy). When I heard that I felt like: "That's not right!". Basically I caught myself having a conservative opinion about something.
That made me realize that maybe conservativeness does have value. And that it's a good thing that both parties are fighting it out each election.
 
@Morwenn I'd like ebooks if I actually owned them
 
@Mgetz That's another reasonable concern :p
@StackedCrooked now we're deep into ethics, it's obviously never easy questions
But consider this: if you euthanize people at least they won't throw themselves under trains anymore and the society will be better :D
(worst argument ever, you're welcome)
 
@Morwenn Hm... I'm convinced now!
(Because I hate it when my train is delayed.)
 
FWIW I always have thoughts or behaviours that go against my values too
Would we even be human without internal conflicts or cognitive dissonance
 
8:08 PM
@Morwenn Damn.
Stop making me think. I hate it.
:D
 
Well, a dead person is still human
 
Sorry about that, it was never my intent :)
@Mikhail only in the mind of other living beings
 
Pretty sure a dead human tastes like human
 
And also your local DB, and the GAFA ones
@Mikhail taste that sweet prions bby
 
From what I recall, you just have to show some self control and avoid eating the brain
 
8:11 PM
@Mikhail I suspect it tastes like pork.
And that's also the reason pork tastes so good :)
 
@Mikhail that indeed does the trick for most of the known ones
Now we only have relevant data wrt to eating the brain for kuru, so who knows
 
Its a shame that in today's society your boss might pretend to be your friend (or use an informal you) but we can no longer serve man
 
If you're unlucky and from the wrong family you can still have FFI (Foreign Function Interface)
 
Ok. Time for dinner :)
 
Are aliens human?
 
8:17 PM
Haha, I almost had time to read it all :')
 
@Mikhail no they're aliens, stupid :P
@Morwenn you have the power, just like He-man!
 
actually muh opposable thumb
@StackedCrooked sssh, I already did that
 
YEAH :)
 
Alive 2007 is so good.
 
8:21 PM
Yeah, one of the best live electro albums
Justice live albums are great too though
 
Yeah.
This is why I like France is a neighboring country.
 
I feel like we haven't had a good French electro album in a long time though
 
Yeah.
 
David Guetta's Jack Back mixtape was surprisingly good if you like techno/underground house though
Well, we've had a shitton actually, just not actually famous ones
 
Most recent song I kinda liked was Mr Oizo's "Pharmacist". But it's not very memorable TBH...
 
8:26 PM
^^'
I just got my hands on that: lazerdiscs.bandcamp.com/album/gone
I you like a blend of dark synthwave with techno undertones
 
Have you heard Daft Punk's "Alive 1997"?
(I'm sure you have lol.)
 
A long time ago
 
user7659542
I m actually wondering
 
I didn't like a lot back then, but I'm sure I'd like it more nowadays
 
I like it a lot.
 
user7659542
8:30 PM
what happens if a war breaks out and all houses in your city, including yours are destroyed due to bombs
 
we fucked yo
 
user7659542
does the government give you a free house after the war?
 
If we survive in a good enough shape you might indeed see big apartment blocks as the ones built in the 50s and 60s
 
user7659542
but will they offer you an apartment in those blocks for free?
 
user7659542
and maybe you lived in a mansion before...
 
user7659542
8:32 PM
so just getting an apartment would be a no go
 
@traducerad lol, no
Governments usually don't have much spare money after a war.
 
user7659542
@StackedCrooked s fcked up yo
 
user7659542
it s not necessarily your fault they went to war or your house/city got bombed by terrorists
 
tbh my grandparents lived in baraques after the war for quite some time, that were government-constructed to house the population since the town was totally destroyed
Then I'm unsure whether apartments were given depending on needs, on sold for cheap
That's basically what parts of the town looked like in the 50s
 
user7659542
i know my insurance policy states that if my house is destroyed due to a civil war or smth like that, I can go fck myself
 
user7659542
8:35 PM
@Morwenn great...
 
@traducerad Recently discovered this color video of berlin in 1945 youtube.com/watch?v=AhyifvjSHbU
It shows that life goes on. (I suppose.)
 
user7659542
@StackedCrooked Nice video!
 
Life always finds a way
 
user7659542
I absolutely live Berlin, so makes me appreciate the video even more
 
If I survive such an event my life would probably be utter shit though
I only live a normal life thanks to meds
 
8:37 PM
@Morwenn Same. (I think...?)
 
user7659542
@Morwenn and stackoverflow
 
user7659542
@StackedCrooked meds?
 
Medications.
 
Ah yeah, thanks for reminding me that my skills would most likely be worthless after such a war
 
@Morwenn lol
 
user7659542
8:38 PM
@StackedCrooked my bad. I meant, what kind of meds?
 
"I'm good at Python programming"
 
I'd need to emigrate somewhere to be worth something, but then other countries would probably want me to stay in France unless I'm that good
 
user7659542
@Morwenn maybe you ll be able loads of money during the war. They ll need top coders to hack their enemy's systems and make software for new weapons!
 
user7659542
eg wernher von braun
 
user7659542
except he wasnt a coder
 
8:40 PM
The relevance of money is debatable during a war
Ah yes, I've got 0 code in hacking
 
user7659542
you won t be worthless, that s what I meant
 
I can work with GIS and satellite data though
 
user7659542
@Morwenn ah, can't be that hard for a competent guy like yourself
 
Which is only useful if some country doesn't decide to make low orbit a debris field >.>
@traducerad I'm also a lazy fuck
 
user7659542
@Morwenn untill you hear the bombs and you light die
 
user7659542
8:41 PM
and the only way to survive is coding
 
@traducerad Stimulants (ADD) and recently antihypertensives (for high blood pressure, obviously) and immunosuppressants (for psoriasis).
 
well, I can also die quickly, which is ess effort
 
However, despite that, I'm doing pretty fine :)
 
user7659542
@StackedCrooked stimulants? Otherwised you get bored/sleepy?
 
@traducerad Yeah.
Basically, that's it.
It's really significant. I think my life can be divided in two parts: before the meds and after the meds.
Btw, I only started taking them at age 25.
The awakening, lol.
@Morwenn or work as a coder for the army and become the next Turing. (Oh wait, that sucks even more...)
 
8:55 PM
@StackedCrooked Man, that guy got the hormones I have for free
Let me get some of that
The rest sucks though
I started taking meds daily around 12~15, not sure when exactly
It's only got worse since x)
 
Most meds I took in my life are fine because they didn't have any side effects.
 
Mine... depends on what you call side effects
 
I get that.
I mean unpleasant side effects.
Or anything unpleasant caused by them.
The pleasant stuff can stay.
 
I mean, a bunch of what I had could be considered weird or unpleasant :x
Like how tits hurt or how morning wood disappeared
 
Does catching the COVID because of immunosuppressants count as a side effect?
 
9:03 PM
Is that pleasant? YOU DECIDE
 
@Mikhail I thought about that a lot. Currently the official recommendation is to keep taking the meds unless advised otherwise by the doc.
Actually, it's an interesting question. Surely, the immunosuppressant makes me more vulnerable to infection. But, on the other hand, the people that die from covid usually die from the inflammation getting out of hand, which is something that medication might prevent.
However, that's pure speculation.
Wishful thinking :)
 
Yeah it isn't true, basically the cytokine storm happens when the regulation in your immune system fails not when the system is too strong or weak.
 
You definitely consider AIDS to be a cause of death, and it's mostly a strong immunosuppressant
 
@Morwenn lol
 
I mean, it's true
 
9:09 PM
@Mikhail Ah, fuck.
 
You generally don't die of AIDS but of whatever you contracted and your body couldn't defend against anymore
 
Never mind. Just thought it was funny thinking of having AIDS as way to cure autoimmune diseases.
"Cytokine storm" kinda sounds like the name of a Protoss Starcraft mission.
 
Or the name of a technical death metal track
> Genre: Technical Death Metal
Haha, I couldn't have been more right XD
 
@Morwenn lol
@Morwenn I can't listen to that though...
Damn.
 
I can, but I find it ok at best
@StackedCrooked what kind of music do you like?
 
9:21 PM
My death metal exposure comes from Meshuggah's album obZen.
@Morwenn It's very broad. Basically anything that's good.
However vague that may sound :)
 
I'm pretty sure you'd reject a bunch of great music by my standards :p
Carpenter Brut?
 
Never heard of it.
 
Sure sounds like good music while programming.
 
It was pretty nice live
All the synth waves that make for gratuitously epic music :')
Those guy even manage to play at metal festivals
 
9:27 PM
Really?
 
yeah
They've got a live band with flashy lights, guitars, drums, etc.
And the atmosphere generally talks to enough metalheads
 
I remember back in the 90s you were either a rocker or a house/techo guy.
This is no longer the case AFAIK.
 
I play in a metal band and listen to electro/latino music on the radio
 
is "electro/latino" a genre or an enumeration of two genres? :)
 
Yeah, people nowadays learnt to listen to a wider range of genres
tbh being able to listen to whatever you want for free helps to broaden your musical horizons
electro/latino is a mix of both
 
9:32 PM
In the 90s "The Prodigy" was probably the first band to appeal to both.
 
Like, the radio I listen to generally plays catchy electronic music, but during summer a whole lot of such music has latino beats and Spanish lyrics, hence electro/latino
Yeah, The Prodigy really did a good job there
Skrillex, despite all the hate, also managed to hit a sweet spot
 
@Morwenn I was a big fan. Some of the first CDs I bought were from them.
 
Now a broad range of synthwave appeals to a bunch of metalheads becaue it's often got the same kind of energy
We did acrobatic gymnastics on a prodigy song with friends in high school for an exam x)
Also you're probably gonna hate me <3
 
@Morwenn dubstep + drum and bass combination is pretty cool
 
Yeah
 
9:36 PM
Damn, I accidentally pressed enter.
I wasn't ready to post :D
 
And despite the "violence" of his sounds, Skrillex still incorporated some reggae elements typical of pre-him dubstep
I loved his first 2 EPs but didn't really like what he produced after those
 
@Morwenn that uses the prodigy opening from "out of space" :)
 
yeah
But to make that kind of psytrance Skazi does that seems to borrow its subtlety from Russian hardbass
 
@Morwenn that sounds kinda like psy trance.
Oh, wait. It is psy-trance :)
 
IIRC Skazi made punk music before becoming an icon on the psytrance scene
I discovered him thanks to a Greek colleague when I was working in Plymouth in 2011
 
9:43 PM
Wow, that's 5 years ago.
 
Yeah, I didn't quite remember what you liked, sorry :p
How many psytrance artists do we really remember though?
 
I kinda liked the "dirty" dubset+dnb combinations like Virus Syndicate and badboy.
 
To names I never heard uwu
 
On Friday evenings there was this program on one of the Belgian national radio stations where some dj "Murdock" did his thing.
It was this kind of music.
Very good background noise for programming :)
 
I tend to listen to mostly instrumental music while programming
 
9:49 PM
Maybe you've heard this? If you don't recognize in the first 15 seconds, then don't bother :)
Same genre.
 
Or atmospheric black metal where it's impossible to understand the lyrics anyway x)
Your first link was not my usual genre but still quite nice, the instrumental parts were a really good answer to the "gangsta" beats and rap
 
@Morwenn I have a lot of that too.
@Morwenn I suppose it's mostly "Friday night music" for people being excited the work week is over.
 
Hehe
Original Badboy is really nice too, it's the kind of music I'm unable to properly find when I want to
Speaking of d'n'b...
 
@Morwenn I love that track. Also because who comes up with that kind of sound?
 
idk
 
9:54 PM
It sounds like a grinding wheel. Literally.
 
I remember a DJ who produced a monster of a hardtek/psytrance track once
It reminds me of that vid: youtube.com/watch?v=g3GhDWMb_3E
The UK Garage sounds like something I'd love to listen to but whenever I try to listen to UK garage it doesn't sound that good x)
 
Hey, that's boyinaband
From the "don't stay in school" song.
:D
 
It's true that he got more well-known for that one
I knew him for his best video ever: youtube.com/watch?v=BnF9rITAhRc
 
@Morwenn lol, haven't seen that one
 
I love it a lot <3
 
9:59 PM
lol still listening
 
mmmh that Sigma thing sounds more conventional than the rest
 
lol "they decided pluto isn't a planet"
boyinaband seems like a cool guy to hang out with
 
I mean, he does seem like it, but IIRC he got some depression issues and stuff, not sure how he'd handle random people coming up to him and saying "hey, you seem like a cool guy to hang out with"
 
Interesting, I didn't know that.
 
Anyway, I need to finish that manga before going to sleep, so I'll have to leave you :p
(cue his song I'm Not Dead and other videos from that time)
 
10:05 PM
Good night then :)
 
Last present before leaving: youtube.com/watch?v=_Q-2T3g3EL8
Thanks ^^
 
Damn. It's late...
 
@Mysticial So how does $100 an hour sound for a senior C++ role as a senior quant developer ?
 
Hey, that's what I make a day
 
Wow, you work for an hour a day?
 
10:12 PM
7h30 officially
 
Well, my consulting fee is $65 an hour, but people say I get stuff done too fast. So projects end up coming out in the $2k range :-(
 
I'm but a slave to capitalism
 
You're not
 
Clients probably pay somewhere in the $500~800 range a day for me though
 
We still need to commercialize my patents: phys.org/news/…
 
10:21 PM
IRTA "my parents"
 
Oh were you an IVF baby?
 
not that I know
I was born early via a C-section though
 
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