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2:59 AM
If I have not backed up Macbook for more than 500 days, how long does time machine take to preparing a backup?
It has been 'preparing' a backup for nearly an hour.
Not sure if stuck or really preparing ...
 
3:40 AM
So backup process completed ... yet no backup produced.
 
3:56 AM
Had to backup again ... finally succeeded.
 
4:32 AM
Replacing a smaller capacity SSD with a larger one.
 
 
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user1804599
9:19 AM
@khajvah I love work. I can sit and watch it all day.
 
9:45 AM
working for Chinese market from outside of China is PITA
Trying to implement wechat API: documentation is Chinese only and the API is some weird XML
 
 
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11:17 AM
@Mysticial survive the storm that rolled through?
 
 
1 hour later…
12:27 PM
He will be alright ... if he has piled on enough mass. I mean like ... F=ma so with bigger m, you can withstand bigger wind force. So, yeah.
 
@TelKitty the storm that hit chicago was suuuuper nasty
derp
@Mikhail Not going to lie... that looks like you're applying for a research position not an industry position
 
12:47 PM
Contrary to the belief, I find Apple hardware very easy to hack with the right tool.
Although I am not doing anything extremely tricky.
Also some drone picture of the surrounding to my farm:
 
nwp
Interesting looking farm.
But yeah, no need for https.
 
1:31 PM
Once I stop being lazy have some spare time, I will edit the footage of my drone stalking the neighbourhood kangaroos.
 
nwp
> Coding Guidelines
2. Indentations
3. Placing of braces and space
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahh
Time to make some people watch the Google styleguide video.
 
hopefully you mean one where it says "don't follow the Google styleguide, you're not Google"
 
nwp
It does indeed say that.
It also says that formatting is not part of a style guide. That's what clang-format is for.
 
user7659542
2:06 PM
If you think about it for a second, the building construction industry is huge and filled with loads of money
 
user7659542
Yet people still use very simplistic materials, stack bricks, paint walls etc...
 
user7659542
All of this is very exhausting and takes a lot of time. I believe there must be a way to optimize this.
 
user7659542
walls are just stupid bricks which are stacked on top of each other. This has probably not changed much in the last 200 years. Same goes for many other things in houses
 
nwp
I'm inclined to believe that building a house is difficult.
And saying laying bricks hasn't changed is like saying programming is the same as 50 years ago because it's just pressing keys.
 
user7659542
Depends. I did my apartments electric installation entirely myself from scratch (almost). Built 3 ceilings in my apartment, and more things
 
nwp
2:10 PM
(Let's ignore that 50 years ago they may have punched holes in cards)
 
user7659542
@nwp very fair point. But what I meant is that for instance those bricks are stupid, there is eg no electronics in them that gives you information about the current state/quality/humidity of you wall
 
user7659542
let's not even speak about painting walls...
 
user7659542
this is horrible as well if you think about it
 
user7659542
Lol, imagine connecting a brick to your laptop via usb/jtag to flash some software to it!
 
nwp
I don't know, stacking bricks correctly using the correct cement and stuff isn't that trivial. Also I think people moved away from stacking bricks in favor of steel because it allows for bigger windows.
And even if you know how to do it, doing it is still a lot of work.
 
user7659542
2:14 PM
@nwp That's incorrect
 
user7659542
@nwp indeed but at least your wall is not stupid, you have an "IOT wall"
 
In C++if i have a A[26][26] matrix.Can I get the address of [10][40]?
Sorry to disturb..
 
nwp
Wrong room, ask here.
 
user7659542
Starting from there, there is so much you could do
 
ok
 
nwp
2:16 PM
Home automation is a decently sized field. The successes seem few.
 
can you just tell me here.Or are there strict rules regarding that
 
nwp
I always wanted a bathroom window with a 5 minute button that opens the window and 5 minutes later closes it.
 
user7659542
I am not referring to house automation, but house construction
 
user7659542
and house maintenance
 
nwp
If you only care about house construction why do you care about an IOT wall?
 
user7659542
2:17 PM
@nwp that s the maintenance part
 
nwp
Normally you build houses so you don't need to maintain walls for a century or so. Also when your walls break, a bit of maintenance will not save you.
 
user7659542
@nwp a smart wall allows you to do something before it is too late
 
user7659542
walls do not suddenly break, there is a cause
 
nwp
A dumb wall allows you to not care because it doesn't break.
 
user7659542
You ve never lived in old buildings whose walls are absorbing humidity little by little and crackling little by little. Have you?
 
nwp
2:22 PM
I probably have. Generally damaged walls can be detected by looking at the wall or taking some drill samples. No need for electronics. Don't forget you now not only need to maintain the wall for 100 years but the electronics inside it as well.
 
user7659542
Fair point. I nevertheless, believe there still is something to be done somehow
 
nwp
Imagine you want to drill a hole in your wall to hang a picture and the wall digitally yells at you for getting damaged. Kinda funny, but not useful.
 
@traducerad There are ways... but making things structurally sound still takes time. The limits are weight, customizability etc.
 
user7659542
Why do people even go through the hassle of painting walls?
 
user7659542
So time consuming
 
2:25 PM
@traducerad because the alternative looks worse?
 
nwp
It's a quick and easy way to make an old wall look like a new wall.
 
but previously it was just plaster
which was done for damp reasons
 
user7659542
@Mgetz waht about a sheet you could stick to the wall and change color via eg a touchscreen
 
cost
 
user7659542
technology is not mature enough to build something like that though
 
2:26 PM
paint is cheap and changed infrequently
 
nwp
Just use a projector. Same effect, easier maintenance.
 
higher cost
 
user7659542
@Mgetz touchscreen would allow you to customize the wall's color as much as you want and as often as you want
 
and most people would just leave it white
it's a lot cheaper to paint
also paint doesn't require electricity
 
user7659542
@Mgetz let's say 80% of the adult world population leaves it white (for any reason), you re still left with 20%
 
2:27 PM
it's easy to clean with modern latex paint
@traducerad even the 20% doesn't change paints that often
even though it's cheap enough they could
 
nwp
Mood paint. That would be amazing, except white walls and mood light works just as well and is rarely used.
 
user7659542
@Mgetz that's my personal opinion, but I strongly disagree with that. There deffinitely are many people who would change color every 1-2 years eventually or even more frequently knowing they could just do it by using a touchscreen
 
@traducerad still cheaper to paint
and kids don't damage the paint as much and if they do it doesn't cost a fortune to fix
 
user7659542
eg you could have darker walls during the evening when you re with your wife for instance
 
user7659542
just thinking out loud here
 
2:30 PM
normally you'd go for lighter tones to make the room lighter
 
user7659542
depends on what ones wife likes
 
nwp
Get a goth gf, paint it black.
 
user7659542
still, I believe there is much to be done
 
the larger point is that while that sounds nice, the advantages of paint far outweigh the time cost
 
user7659542
there has not been much evolution in that industry for certin things
 
nwp
2:31 PM
There is so much to be done everywhere.
Too many fields use the dumb simple solution because the cost to make something better is prohibitively expensive.
 
user7659542
@Mgetz it s the other way around, a screen system would go much faster than painting. Cost on itself however is an understandable counter argument
 
user7659542
@nwp like?
 
@traducerad you assume but that means it's basically OLED. That has cost and prep
is a thing
 
user7659542
@nwp the painting industry which sells you paint rather than using electronic screens? :p
 
user7659542
@Mgetz it has a preparation cost indeed. But not for the customer only for the manufacturer.
 
nwp
2:35 PM
Medicine seems to mostly use random chemicals and keeps a catalog of ones with a useful effect on people. And not like designing chemicals, just extracting them from random plants. We seem to be very far away from having any sort of control over our bodies.
 
user7659542
The customer sticks it on his wall and is ready to go for so many years
 
@traducerad that gets passed on to the customer
 
nwp
@traducerad You can just buy screens. There are screens that you can somewhat seamlessly tile together.
But the power cost, the cost of the screens themselves, hooking them up when graphics cards can supply like what, 4 monitors? It's all rather complicated.
 
user7659542
@Mgetz what is the point you re trying to make? Yes, those are building blocks.
 
@nwp the replacing them when kids draw on them...
@traducerad you asked about faster and cheaper building systems. I was giving an example
 
user7659542
2:38 PM
@nwp having a working prototype in the field of medicine (ie electronics interfacing with your body) is extremely difficult from a technical standpoint. And afterwards I think it is a nightmare to be able to put it on the market
 
either way my point was nobody cares if you scratch paint
everybody cares if you scratch their expensive TV
 
user7659542
just look at medicines. Takes so many years before they reach the market, although they are made by huge famous companies. So imagine if you build, in your garage on your own, a decent prototype of a device which sends signals to your body...
 
user7659542
@Mgetz I see. But it s not totally in line with what I meant
 
yet it's inline with how people treat them
 
user7659542
@Mgetz I don't have a TV lol
 
nwp
2:40 PM
Something something not having a TV but wanting a wall made of TVs.
 
user7659542
@nwp I know I said "screen", but by "screen" I mean some sort of sheet/paper or other thing material you could stick to your wall
 
nwp
@traducerad It's not that difficult. Any little motor rotating a weight off-axis will make a nice ... massager.
 
@traducerad wallpaper is minimum 10x more expensive that most standard paints
 
user7659542
@nwp I ll speak to my wife about your "business idea". I ll get back to you.
 
user7659542
Spoke to her about it, seems like she needs some time to think about it on her own.
 
user7659542
2:44 PM
she just left the room
 
nwp
Maybe she is testing it already.
 
user7659542
dunno, I ll go have a look
 
user7659542
door is locked. She must be thinking very hard about your business idea.
 
nwp
Anyways, it's way outside my field. I could make much more progress in the areas I'm already in and yet in the end I just end up exhausted from my day chatting at work and don't actually do anything.
 
user7659542
@nwp any more fields? Not everybody is exchausted from chatting at work
 
nwp
2:47 PM
Politics is shit. Our ability to organize consent is absolute garbage.
The way we organize work by having people sit in a room doing nothing for large parts of their days is bad.
 
user7659542
don't feel like building a revolutionary webapp. ALso this is much of a political/societal issue than a technical one
 
nwp
The traffic lights are not synchronized properly most of the time. You could optimize a system for going through the city without standing at a red light all the time, but effort.
 
user7659542
good luck being allowed by your government updating their traffic light system
 
nwp
The public transportation system is perfectly synchronized so the connecting train leaves just when the provider train opens its doors.
 
user7659542
same issue, that's a problem I cannot just solve like that. Public transport is quite a closed market
 
nwp
2:50 PM
Food supply is not organized at all. Everyone just eats whatever they feel like or apply some half-truth rules that don't actually apply to them. There should be a way to get proper food without having to do research, but apparently there is not.
Car sharing is garbage. It exists, but most of the time most cars stand around completely useless.
 
user7659542
@nwp there must be an android/iphone app out there that does something like that correclty. There are millions of such apps on the market AFAIK
 
user7659542
@nwp interesting
 
nwp
@traducerad Sure. "Eat SlimFastâ„¢. Supported by the SlimFastâ„¢ Appâ„¢"
 
user7659542
other suggestion?
 
user7659542
I m writing them down
 
nwp
2:56 PM
We have scientists that kinda know what you should and should not be eating when. The process of taking what they know and giving people a product they can benefit from is pretty shitty. It relies on every single individual to double-check the product which is simply not happening.
Computers are 99% idle and the ways to donate your computing power seem lacking.
At the same time everyone screams for more computation power.
 
user7659542
@nwp wrote that one down
 
nwp
But all these things are super tricky. How do you guarantee the person who uses your computer doesn't do bad things like stealing your stuff? How do you make it so bad actors don't return fake results for faster gain? There are solutions to these problems, but in the end the better solution seems to be to just buy computers instead of utilizing existing ones more.
 
user7659542
@nwp do they?
 
user7659542
@nwp indeed
 
nwp
Well, I do. If I had a Ryzen 3990 instead of that intel quadcore I would probably save 10 minutes a day that I'd spend on chatting.
 
user7659542
3:02 PM
AMD...
 
user7659542
it s apitty cubesats don't have that much use
 
user7659542
nor do UAVs
 
nwp
Oh yeah, raising children. How do you raise a child? No clue. You can read a couple of books and have some ideas, but ultimately you still don't know. You're just winging it. And that's the state of the art on child raising.
 
user7659542
I find them extremely interesting, but it is mostly academia which builds cubesats for research purposes. And I think having your cubesat being launched must be very complicated
 
user7659542
Regarding UAVs I have the impression the market got flooded with people who claimed they could make uavs fly autonomously in cities. None succeeded. And now the market is only left with 1B companies who claim to be "agricultural experts" and can help you optimize your farming
 
user7659542
3:06 PM
@nwp unsolvable with software IMO
 
nwp
I didn't realize that was a requirement.
Are you looking for startup ideas or something?
 
user7659542
@nwp not gonna lie. If I manage to have a working prototype on something I m willing go for it
 
user7659542
time and lazyness are not my issues. My issue is not having ideas
 
nwp
Just do anything then. It doesn't matter what.
 
user7659542
you ve been saying couple of examples now, but I have not been able to even think of those
 
nwp
3:08 PM
The value is in execution, ideas are worthless.
5
 
user7659542
I d **love** to do something like any of these:

- http://www.albaorbital.com/
- https://skyeton.com/
- https://www.relativityspace.com/
 
user7659542
but market is not big and it is quite complicated
 
user7659542
when living abroad for my job I went to skyeton's factory
 
user7659542
it s like 4-5 engineers who make such incredible drones
 
user7659542
@nwp there has to be a market
 
user7659542
3:11 PM
Also many of such factories strive to write their own flight controllers, but most of them fail. Because writing a flight controller is very difficult regarding algorithms/maths
 
user7659542
@Mikhail I heard you re looking for an algorithm engineering job. Wanna joing my UAV startup? I need someone to help me write flight software from scratch
 
nwp
2 of those are about rockets to go to space which isn't very interesting to me. I wouldn't know what to do there. And the drones are rather scary.
"Wanna join my game team? I just need a programmer, an artist and a composer."
 
user7659542
@Mikhail Pay is ~~not great~~ inexistent, but fun is guaranteed. And you get free coffee
 
user7659542
@nwp indeed there needs to be a market
 
user7659542
I have been thinking about house construction. Market is absolutely huge, but now I d need to know what to do
 
nwp
3:15 PM
I mean those definitely have a market. NASA, ESA and Musky boy pay lots of money for it.
 
user7659542
I think you have to have built a certain credibility before Musk or ESA/NASA spends on you
 
nwp
I would not recommend entering an area you are not familiar with. If you do want to enter the housing construction market work as a construction worker for half a year or so. Or maybe in an organizing position. Knowing nothing about the field and saying it must be possible to do better is probably doomed to fail.
 
user7659542
I also believe there is something to be done in finance, which is a big market too
 
user7659542
I thin many people would like to trade/invest but it is too complicated. They don't understand nor know how to do it and therefor never invest
 
user7659542
but that's a job for an app developper, not an embedded software engineer like myself
 
nwp
3:19 PM
I have an irrational hate for the finance field and will not touch it, even if that massively disadvantages me.
 
user7659542
I recently heard about high frequency trading, where they use optimized FPGAs.
 
nwp
And I thought going to a broker and buying some stocks was rather trivial.
 
user7659542
@nwp do you understand everything from that stock P-E ratio, etc... ?
 
user7659542
Many people don't understand enough to understand the "technical" sheet of the stock
 
nwp
No. My point was that access is there. But you're right, having a clue what you're doing is another matter entirely.
 
user7659542
3:22 PM
I found a paper online where they researched the use of FPGA s to speed up database accesses
 
user7659542
sounds very interesting. But have no idea of whether that's usefull
 
user7659542
but if it is, again very big market. Big data and stuff would deffinitely benefit from quicker access to their data
 
user7659542
Haven't read it yet
 
nwp
3:53 PM
> ld.exe: region RAM overflowed with stack
Stupid embedded $%§&§$
 
user7659542
4:07 PM
lel
 
nwp
Just hardfault for no reason. It's not like it needs to work or anything.
This is an idea for you: Make a debugger for embedded devices that actually works.
Supposedly JTag has that, but in practice it doesn't.
 
user7659542
@nwp yes, indeed. Jtag allows you to run your software on your device and place breakpoints and stuff
 
user7659542
not good enough?
 
nwp
No. Not when the callstack doesn't exist and every variable is optimized out.
It's almost like debugging on Linux.
Also manually typing random numbers into task stack sizes until it works is probably not the best we can do either.
 
user7659542
I m not very familiar with how debuggers work. But if you want to debug, you compile with -g meaning nothing gets optimized out (I think).

Also, why don't you have the callstack? (due to some optimization?)
 
user7659542
4:17 PM
@nwp not sure what you were trying to do when you say that
 
nwp
It's FreeRTOS where you have tasks (basically threads, but not parallelism) that each have a stack size and you have to specify that. If the number is too small the program crashes sometimes with a notification that there was a stack overflow and sometimes it just ends in a hardfault handler without any information. And if the number is too big you get told there is not enough space. So you binary-search all the task sizes. And if you change any code you get to start over.
Also it doesn't help that I don't even know which numbers make sense to change. Especially when I'm left in one of those hardfault situations that don't show a cause.
That's my full stack trace. None of the code is from me.
And by "from me" I mean part of the code base I'm working on. It's all FreeRTOS internals.
Also you get someone who tweaks the numbers, it works, you change some small detail, it stops working, you change it back, it still doesn't work anymore. There is so much I don't understand here and it makes it very annoying.
A tool that would at least be able to debug stack and heap overflows while keeping a call stack would help immensely.
Oh hey, I found the correct number.
Aaaaaand back to hardfaulting.
 
 
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user7659542
8:42 PM
/usr/include/assert.h: In function ‘__assert_fail’:
/usr/include/assert.h:71:6: error: expected declaration specifiers before ‘__THROW’
      __THROW __attribute__ ((__noreturn__));
 
user7659542
since when does assert not compile?
 
mismatch between compiler and /usr/include?
 
user7659542
@Mikhail dunno what even could be mismatched
 
For example you're on the latest gcc but /usr/include is historic
 
user7659542
nothing unusual at that level AFAIK. I created a CMakeLists.txt file to compile sources to a lib so I can write some tests using cmocka
 
user7659542
8:49 PM
it is quite a pain in the ass, because the source file is intended to be built with IAR's IDE I think. Instead I am building it using gcc in my terminal
 
user7659542
I have had to jump through a couple of hoops so far. Because some header files are normally installed when you install the IDE, some compilation defines are also defined by the IDE itself when you build
 
user7659542
but this error in assert.h is quite weird
 
user7659542
part of the libs installed by the IDE are in /usr/msp/include, others in /usr/include
 
So are you using a historic compiler possibly for a weird platform against the modern system linux headers?
 
user7659542
@Mikhail I m using gcc 7.5.0
 
user7659542
8:52 PM
to compile sources from a microcontroller app. I have all the necessary and correct sources and headers, I think
 
user7659542
but yes for assert it presumably uses my system's header file. But that is not a big issue I guess
 
user7659542
Hmm maybe the assert used by the IDE is not the same as my host system's assert...
 
user7659542
the former maybe does not have the "__THROW" thing
 
🤔
 
user7659542
9:21 PM
There you go.
 
user7659542
The assert header files differ.
 
Do I get paid? My typical consulting fee is $65 an hour rounded up.
 
user7659542
@Mikhail yes, we offer you a role at a very dynamic startup
 
user7659542
we work hard but also play hard
 
Sounds sexual
 
user7659542
9:28 PM
it is not.
 
user7659542
Unless you want it to be.
 
@traducerad is that a reference to David Guetta
 
user7659542
@Morwenn No, just something I have read a billion times in job descriptions.
 
user7659542
@Morwenn it's not. Unless you want it to be
 
work hard is against my principles, sorry
play hard too most of the time
get bored, enjoy being depressed, occasionally do that one random thing that feels productive and gives you just enough endorphines to go on
Speaking of which I need to finish that beer and go to sleep because I'm waking up for work tomorrow -_-
 
9:35 PM
I expected your day to consist more of Breton related activity.
 
I hardly do any specific Breton activities
 
user7659542
Breton games
 
user7659542
and breton work
 
user7659542
which are not too hard
 
Except when I'm eating crêpes, kouign aman, kig ha farz or when I'm playing music with the band
 
9:36 PM
You could sow discord among the franks?
 
My current client is a big Breton player though, but I still have to decide where working for big agriculture stands in my ethics
See that pic? I'm not working in that building
But in the smaller one right beneath it
 
I think making food is generally on the right side of things, even companies like Monsanto.
 
Feeding people is definitely among the things we need to do, but I think we can do better
 
Yeah, if it wasn't for fucking regulations we'd have much more productive plants. Then we could drastically reduce agricultural land and fill it with beautiful forests or what not.
 
user7659542
@Morwenn lol
 
9:42 PM
Oh, my point is more that big cooperatives generally manage to milk farmers in such a way that they strive to survive
 
user7659542
@Morwenn what if you were offered 7 figures per fear to make weapons?
 
Like, always ask the maximum from them and they never get more than just enough to go on
@traducerad what unit is "per fear"?
 
Not really, and especially in the US. Farmers generally have a bunch of money as they own the land. The people that get fucked are mostly the farm hands (temporarily employees).
 
I'm talking about Brittany here, not about the US
The suicide rate among farmers is crazy high in France
 
user7659542
@Morwenn oddly specific knowledge
 
9:44 PM
There is a small but important linguistic difference between farmers (who own the land) and the employees (who work it). In the US these are very different people.
 
@traducerad Not really, it's rather well-known statistic
Well, even when you own the land you generally rely on the cooperative to provide grain or animals, additional products, and to buy it from you
I think that people who own the land and work the land tend to be the same in France, until they have to sell it to a bigger instance (which still allows them to live on it, but fuck your retirement)
 
Yeah, in the US the guys that own the land have a more managerial role
 
The history of agriculture here isn't a pretty one
And now I'm part of it, and I'm not sure what I'll be able to improve :/
 
I don't see it being particularly bad, especially in the EU I can't come up with anything wrong.
 
I'd provide a few books but they're all only available in French
 
9:48 PM
My only pet peeve is the lack of genetically modified organisms although uneducated people would disagree...
 
Basically the rich guys in France aren't the ones that own the land, but the ones that own the companies that provide the materials and tools to exploit the land
 
So in the US one of the biggest issues is the use of migrant labor. The issue is somewhat complicated as migrants are often paid marginally more than locals.
 
We also have that issue
 
Where do you guys get them from Moldova?
 
Aw fuck, the issues we have due to agriculture since changes initiated with the Marshall Plan don't even have proper English documentation
We get them either from Eastern Europe or from Africa
 
9:53 PM
Do you think in the future we'll simply move agriculture to those regions? Or is that technically impossible (hard to farm the Sahara but the Ukraine is fertile)?
BTW, you seem to know much more than I do about these issues
 
The different kinds of agriculture are kind of dependent on the local climate
I have a bit of knowledge about how things are in France, but I'm pretty much illiterate for the rest of the world
I expect to learn a lot more with the new job
Also to learn a bit of PostgreSQL
 
So as a resident of Champaign, Illinois do you think I can avoid regulations for labeling Champagne wine?
 
It has to come from "the Champagne region of France" :')
 
Hmm, maybe just sell it as Champaign like those dudes that sell Guchi (instead of Gucci)
 
^ that's the kind of thing we have to deal with here since the inception of industrial agriculture
 
9:57 PM
Can you eat it?
 
not at all
Worse: it rots fast and the gas it emanates can kill people quite fast
It's the result of too much fertilizer ending up in the see
Anyway, I really need to sleep now, sorry ^^'
See you another day
 
Good luck on the new job.
 
Thanks, we'll see whether I can SQL x)
 

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