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12:28 AM
@CaptainGiraffe If we were still doing innuendos, I'd ask about what specific parts of teenage you were uplifted. I guess I can be thankful we're not though, because I really don't want to know.
 
1:27 AM
@JerryCoffin Dude!
@JerryCoffin I'd like to sit down and have a drink with Jerry in real life before I die.
 
1:49 AM
@CaptainGiraffe Do giraffes sit down when they drink? I'd have assumed they drink standing up.
 
 
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4:36 AM
The power of life - growing on your 3 meters high roof.
Nature is so amazing.
 
 
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10:25 AM
Small particles of ashes in the air.
 
11:13 AM
Nothing has been installed on the solar farm site yet.
If the fire burns the area, usually there will not be another fire in the same area for 5 - 10 years at least.
 
 
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12:26 PM
How could US be a mainly Christian country and runs on capitalism? Capitalism is symbolised by maximum profit. But isn't greed a deadly sin?
 
12:47 PM
In a really hot day, if you go out naked, you are crazy. But if you are in the business district of a mega city wearing expensive suits, then you look like a successful person. I don't know who is ill, the person who is naked because it's too warm to wear any clothes or the whole society.
 
@TelKitty blame protestantism, and the 'hard work' dogma
 
You can work hard for free, but not many people is willing to do that. Besides, isn't it more 'work smarter, not harder'?
 
nwp
No, it's "Work 8 hours a day, we don't care how smart or hard".
 
user8104581
To work smart you must be smart first
 
user8104581
Which not everyone is
 
12:56 PM
@TelKitty something about how hard work is godliness and those that are downtrodden or poor are heathens and should be dispised and looked down on because apparently they didn't work hard enough to placate god
 
So you are saying that the mass is deceived?
 
user8104581
Being predominantly Chirstian does not also imply any or all religious traditions and beliefs are followed completely
 
@TelKitty I'm saying that the rich have twisted the system to basically exalting them instead of following 'Christian' values
Prosperity theology (sometimes referred to as the prosperity gospel, the health and wealth gospel, the gospel of success, or seed faith) is a controversial religious belief among some Protestant Christians, who hold that financial blessing and physical well-being are always the will of God for them, and that faith, positive speech, and donations to religious causes will increase one's material wealth. Prosperity theology views the Bible as a contract between God and humans: if humans have faith in God, he will deliver security and prosperity.The doctrine emphasizes the importance of persona...
 
user8104581
That it is contradictory is not surprising in the least if you've been alive for more than 12 years
 
1:00 PM
Rich and powerful always twist the system to benefit the themselves, I think this is true in all countries and throughout the whole human history.
 
user8104581
Deep down, humans are the problem
 
There are nice people, but it is harder for them to become extremely rich or powerful.
 
user8104581
That is debatable
 
The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism (German: Die protestantische Ethik und der Geist des Kapitalismus) is a book written by Max Weber, a German sociologist, economist, and politician. Begun as a series of essays, the original German text was composed in 1904 and 1905, and was translated into English for the first time by American sociologist Talcott Parsons in 1930. It is considered a founding text in economic sociology and a milestone contribution to sociological thought in general. In the book, Weber wrote that capitalism in Northern Europe evolved when the Protestant (particularly...
 
user8104581
I mostly agree with the edit.
 
user8104581
1:03 PM
Fixing society means changing every single thing that has happened in the past that contributed to the way we are now
 
nwp
That requires a very weird definition of "fixing" to be true.
 
user8104581
The utopic definition, I suppose
 
user8104581
Which is what unrealistic people seem to strive for
 
nwp
Having ideals does not mean you are unrealistic. Just because you cannot reach the ideal doesn't mean ideals are useless.
 
user8104581
Making the ideals your only acceptable goal is unrealistic by itself, your ideals are but ideals and more likely than anything to not come true, they are (ideally) supposed to keep you on track on what you believe is right rather than ultimately achieving them
 
nwp
1:09 PM
Ideal and goal is pretty much the same thing. You try to get as close to the ideal as you can. Seems completely reasonable to me.
 
user8104581
I don't disagree, but not everyone has the same awareness of what might be reasonably achievable or not, which is what I meant by unrealistic people
 
nwp
Why does that matter? I want to live a happy life forever. Some or most of that might be impossible, but I still want it.
 
user8104581
Well you are more likely to live a happier life if you are aware that certain things won't always go the way you want it to
 
user8104581
You see how so many people are so overly stressed these days
 
user8104581
They can't live a decent life while not being able to cope to all the things that go wrong around them
 
nwp
1:18 PM
That sounds more depressing than happy. I like to imagine that people will cure aging at least and we are no longer born with a death sentence. That's one of the most horrible things in this world.
"Just accept that things are bad" sounds like a dystopia to me.
 
user8104581
Of course being fine with everything that goes wrong is not going to make you any less unhappy
 
user8104581
Coping with it and finding solutions or acceptance and support when they are not currently viable is what I guess is a better outcome
 
I see a lot of people who are depressed because they conform to society. Except they didn't know those rules are not designed to benefit them :p They think that 'if I conform, and be like everyone else then I will be happy' so they voluntarily walked into a cage designed to benefit those who controls the society.
 
nwp
Ah yes, them damn Illuminati.
 
 
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3:59 PM
@TelKitty At least in my experience, the vast majority of conformists never make a conscious decision to conform. They simply like the sense of belonging they get from being a member of a group well enough that they do whatever's needed to join that group.
 
4:55 PM
Hello
I am having a very bad time building box2d for windows 10 visual studio 2017
I followed the instruction in box2d readme and went on to build the box2d solution file. But that required me to have windows 8.1 sdk for visual studio, so i installed that into visual studio
Now the build system is giving error Cannot open include file: 'stddef.h': No such file or directory
so maybe it required stddef instead of stddef.h, or maybe cstddef. So I manually changed the names in the file which gave error (b2settings.h), but then another error of same kind popped up
 
 
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8:12 PM
@JerryCoffin It seems to me holding the belief that things are the way they are because group X controls something and group Y either has no choice or chooses to conform might be correlated to a bigger likelihood of believing in conspiracy theories
 
8:31 PM
How come gcc looks in both "/usr/local/include" and "/usr/include"? Is there a global config where I can add/remove default search paths?
 
9:13 PM
@StackedCrooked I believe the defaults are specified when you build the compiler. You can add more (per user, but potentially persistently if you put them into .bashrc or whatever) by adding them to the CPATH, C_INCLUDE_PATH, or CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH environment variables. CPATH is for any language, C_INCLUDE_PATH strictly for C, and CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH strictly for C++. I suppose there's one for Objective C as well, but I've never used it.
 
I think I'm late to the prosperity gospel topic but it is contrary to what Jesus said in the bible. Matthew 6: 19. "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal." And Matthew 10: 9. "Do not get any gold or silver or copper to take with you in your belts— 10. no bag for the journey or extra shirt or sandals or a staff, for the worker is worth his keep. "
And finally : " It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God"
Riches makes people comfortable and complacent, even apathic. People who believe in prosperity gospel are as guilty as those who preach it, because the Bible is available, all you have to do is read it and check the truth
@andreyrk 100% correct. We love our pornography, movies filled with murder that 'entertain' us, lie to each other and say it's not bad, blasphemy the name of God that gave us life and air and ears to taste good music and many good things at life. The real gospel is that we have broken God's law, do not want to admit it because we love our wrong stuff more than Him and immediately after we die we face his right judgement. People say that He is forgiving, sure, but also just.
If someone rapes a girl and kills her mother, later on is judged and asks the judge for forgivenes because he's sorry, the judge will tell him, of course you have to be sorry and I forgive you but you must pay the penalty for what you've committed. It doesn't matter if that was 10 years ago and now he's donating money to charity and volunteering at a hospital. But the good news is that Jesus paid the penalty for our sins, mine and yours, whatever you've done wrong in life he paid for it
So that you don't have to. All you have to do is to get right with God, tell him you've done some wrong in life, that you're sorry for it, commit to not doing these things again and believe (believe means to accept as true) that Jesus died to pay a penalty for these things you've done wrong. The moment you do this God will give you a new heart, a heart that is right and you will have eternal life. That's it. That's the whole bible gospel.
 
10:01 PM
> C99 introduced func, and GCC has provided FUNCTION for a long time. Both of these are strings containing the name of the current function (there are slight semantic differences; see the GCC manual). Neither of them is a macro; the preprocessor does not know the name of the current function. They tend to be useful in conjunction with FILE and LINE, though.
^ Ah. It's documented.
 
10:26 PM
@JerryCoffin You are welcome in the Giraffe lounge, we funnily enough don't have a height requirement, all we ask is that you feel tall. The seats we employ are usually regular bar stools. Giraffes likes to drink in a reasonably sophisticated manner.
For the obvious followup question. How does Giraffes sit on any kind of chair?
Ass down.
 
10:55 PM
 
11:18 PM
@JerryCoffin "do whatever's needed to join that group" - sounds like another lousy decision making strategy. Everything can be seen as a coin that has two sides. Every benefit comes at a cost. People do not ask 'is the happiness gained from feeling belong to this group greater than the happiness lost for conforming and otherwise amortised by joining such a group?' Better still, one should ask the question: 'what is the group that I should belong to maximize my overall happiness.'
 

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