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1:10 AM
@StackedCrooked yeah :) okay. Thank you very much for responding :-)
 
1:35 AM
Anybody working on anything fun? I'm doing some gimmicky nueral networks for nueral network stuff.
 
 
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3:41 AM
@Mgetz 3200 finally gave a soft error after 18 hours under load.
 
4:03 AM
godbolt.org/z/UdKLxN what is the difference between line 84 and 85? I want to know what is Buffer T getting when RefCnt<Buffer<T> from here versus RefCnt<T >?
 
 
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5:09 AM
@Mikhail So I got an email from "someone famous" yesterday whom I won't name. It's direct from his public/corporate email, but it seems to cc a bunch of internal emails - which based on their name I suspect serves the purpose of bypassing his secretary's filtering or something.
IOW, if I were to email the person directly using just the public email, it probably wouldn't go through.
 
Someone famous wants y-cruncher secrets? :P
 
nwp
5:57 AM
@nomanpouigt Wrong room. Ask here.
 
6:28 AM
@StackedCrooked On my to-do list. :)
 
 
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8:24 AM
The sadness when you build a gigantic system, and luckily you got it working the first time. Then something broke and you have to debug it from the very basic level.
And then you learn something you should have learned the first time round but didn't because you got lucky and system worked without you truly understood the whole thing.
Got lucky & your system worked the first time = take a mortgage on later learnings ... usually
 
8:53 AM
I did not hit her, it's not true! It's bullshit! I did not hit her! I did not! Oh hi, Mark.
Also, this is awesome use of Prolog: How to learn Prolog by watching Game of Thrones
 
9:20 AM
@wilx ^ is this asking for domestic violence?
 
10:13 AM
Soon ...
 
@TelKitty Soon to be in oven or what?
 
@Mysticial charge them a consulting fee :-)
Now we speculate on tbe person, is it Linus Sebastián?
 
 
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12:32 PM
@Mysticial That makes sense, 4xanything will be harder to overclock because of timings
 
 
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1:32 PM
@Mysticial yeah I saw those timings and I was curious until I saw this message, I haven't been able to get close to that even on B-die
 
 
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6:30 PM
@Mgetz This is what failed for me after 18 hours:
 
6:41 PM
@Mysticial Yeah without knowing anything about the chips I can't say if that seems high or not. I know the timings for my B-die are absolute garbage. But I suspect they're tuned for four sticks not two, tbf I'm running four.
 
6:54 PM
My test is still running. Still only one error after 34 hours. But it's at least a good sign that 3000 will stable. Didn't expect to get anywhere near this on 1st gen Zen.
Guess I'll run it in this configuration until the 3950X shows up - which is where this ram was supposed to go in the first place.
 
@Puppy Nah, Javascript was a neat language up until they wanted it to be OO.
 
Javascript could never be a neat language
weak, dynamic typing, etc
 
@CaptainGiraffe Quick, what is typeof 0/0? :)
 
7:09 PM
@Mysticial found you a PC a few weeks back
@fredoverflow pain_t
 
@Borgleader It's not even a type, it's NaN.
 
@Borgleader ooooh
 
I was at Dreamhack and several companies were showing off modded PCs
This was the wildest one
 
@fredoverflow NaN, if you can't remember a few edge cases, programming is not for you! quick, what is the return type of std::accumulate.
 
7:30 PM
@Mysticial what's it rated at? in theory with Zen2 target ram speed should be about 3800 or 3600 at worst due to fclk
@Borgleader so they copied Linus
 
XMP 3000
So the 3200 that I'm testing right now is technically an overclock for both the CPU and the ram.
 
@Mysticial hmm you may need to separate your FCLK then insofar as you can clock FCLK greater than 233 above UCLK
 
Zen 1 doesn't let you separate the clocks.
 
@Mysticial no but Zen2 does, obviously it depends on your load, but I'm going to guess that y-cruncher wants FCLK at the bleeding edge of stable
 
The X570 mobo that I'm looking at (that Asrock mATX with shitty VRMs) has my ram in the QVL for 4 sticks for XMP 3000.
I think I can believe it if it's already reasonably stable on Zen 1.
 
7:34 PM
@Mysticial too bad you need four mem slots, there are some DTX boards with insanely good VRMs, ditto ITX
 
@Mgetz maybe? i dont watch Linus
 
tbh I doubt Linus was the frist one to do that?
 
7:53 PM
Really it's a pretty messed up build that will have thermal issues, for no real reason. First off the airflow will not uniformly cover the components. Also the exhaust is going to blow into the guys leg. The real missed operunity was to make the case out of a thermally conducting material, instead of wood.
Also, it underpowered for a high end video editing workstation. At work all our video editing workstations have at least two sockets.
 
@Mikhail depends on what you're using. LTT has actually tested quite a bit I think they are still on single socket 9900k systems though. That desk has long been retired however.
 
 
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10:57 PM
While I understand that Linus is attempting to appeal to his plebeian base of plebeian regular computer users, for medical visualization, professional video editing, and rendering we're used to using much more powerful hardware. Its not unusual to spend 10k per seat, on hardware and maybe more on software.
 

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