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12:01 AM
Unfortunately, Windows-based operating systems provide no functionality to access the network at the data link layer.
 
12:20 AM
Welp, 4 x 32GB does not work on B250 + 1800X.
 
@Rick I'm not at all sure that either Windows or Linux really has anything corresponding directly to the data link layer. Most of the world has moved toward the IP stack, which doesn't have or use anything corresponding directly to the data link layer. The OSI model puts reliable transmission at the data link layer (i.e., the first step above raw hardware), and routable addressing above that. The bottom layer of software in the IP stack is datagrams, where are routable but not reliable.
 
12:43 AM
Updated BIOS and now 4 x 32GB seems to work. Sweet.
 
12:59 AM
@Mikhail 128 GB seems to work on the 1st gen Zen 1 in an mATX. It took a couple BIOS updates though.
I'll try tuning on XMP in a bit.
 
 
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2:37 AM
Hello everyone :-)
Can we talk about C++ language here?
 
 
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6:34 AM
Sure.
 
@Mikhail No we can't. I mean, we could if we knew anything about it, but we don't...
 
Did you photograph anything fun?
 
Trying some pictures of M33 right now, but half moon rose a bit ago, so it's probably not dark enough to get much.
 
This turtle. Those sharp little claws..
I was worried that it could get run over by another car.
I think I have put it on the right side. But I am sure now think about it.
Dear turtle, please forgive me if I have put you on your starting side.
In that case, the poor turtle would have taken all the risks, putting in all the effort, crawled half way and been put back to where it has started.
This side is tail or not?
 
7:05 AM
godbolt.org/z/PfRgF3 if someone can explain line 7, 8 and 9 with a example, it will help as I am not able to understand that.
 
@JerryCoffin Sorry, I didn't know we had to ask the question itself.
#include<iostream>

using namespace std;

class test
{
  public:

    test(int i)
    {
        cout << "test constructor called: " << i << endl;
    }

};

class test2: public test
{
  public:
    int b = 345;

    test2(int x) : test(b)
    {
        cout << "test2 constructor called: " << b << endl;
    }

};

int main()
{
	test2 t(678);

	return 0;
}
Output:
test constructor called: 4354174
test2 constructor called: 345
I'm not able to understand why is b storing garbage value when test() is invoked first but when test2 is invoked (later) it stores what its supposed to. Somebody please help :-)
 
7:36 AM
@Mysticial Have you ever wondered what the bias updates actually contain?
 
@Mikhail yeah, not that I know enough to understand it beyond, "it's another piece of black box software".
Shit seems to work with XMP 3000. Even 3200 is stable - which is higher than the 2866 that I had with my older ram. But that was also about 5 AGESA versions earlier.
 
@user8718165 test2 is derived from test, therefore a test2 object contains a test sub-object. The first part of creating a test2 object is to create the test sub-object. Only after that's done, is the test2 initialization done. So in your code, you're invoking the base class constructor passing the value in i before it's been initialized. Then after the base class ctor finishes execution, the test2 initialization is done.
 
@JerryCoffin Thank you so much for your response...I'll read it now :)
 
3400 wouldn't post until I relaxed the timings and isn't stable. I couldn't get 3600 to post at all even with relaxed timings and upped voltages. Not that I expected anywhere near that for 32 GB DIMMs on a shitty mobo with a gen 1 Zen.
 
7:52 AM
@JerryCoffin so first of all, the variables in the sub-object (from test) will be declared and initialized and after that those in the test2 class will be initialized....Did I get you correctly? :-)
 
@user8718165 Initialized, anyway. I'd leave "declared" out of things for now (it's mostly a compile-time thing).
 
@JerryCoffin Thank you so much for the answer. I was really puzzled about it. I couldn't find it on the web too. BTW, 'twas a great convo :-)
 
@user8718165 No problem.
 
@JerryCoffin :-)
 
8:38 AM
What do you call this type of car in the US?
I mean a name or slang name to refer to vehicles like that.
 
@StackedCrooked I'm not sure I've seen anything quite like that. Looks like a cross between an SUV and a minivan.
 
Seems like minivan is pretty close.
Btw, that car in the picture is a Citroen Berlingo.
I like that type of car because it's very convenient. It's big enough to carry furniture.
Well, not all furniture.
 
 
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12:31 PM
@Mysticial I have yet to get past 3200 on Zen(+) I'm not sure the first gen memory controller can handle it
 
 
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3:24 PM
Hello everyone once again :-) I'm trying to understand a piece of code which I'm failing at.
#include<iostream>
using namespace std;

class parent
{
public:
    int l;
};
class child : public parent
{
public:
    int k;
    child():parent()
    {}
};
int main()
{
    child c1;
	cout <<  c1.k  <<  endl  <<  c1.l;
	return 0;
}
I'm not able to understand why c1.l is having a value of 0. I think its a case of 0 initialization but I'm not sure as there will always be a default ctor made if we don't make one. So why is c1.l initialized with 0? I'm happy with the value of c1.k as I didn't initialize it :-)
Somebody please help :-)
 
 
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4:44 PM

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4:58 PM
@Mgetz Tons of people online claim to get 3600+. But those are usually with 2 x 8GB configurations.
Almost nobody tries to overclock a fully loaded setup.
And the ones that do hit 3600+ probably aren't stressing them as hard as I do.
 
@Mgetz hi...thanks for the link. I saw it and this also. I don't get why they say its done in classes without ctor.
 
5:34 PM
@JerryCoffin Would you please tell me a bit about my doubt whenever you wish :) no worries.
 
@user8718165 Be careful. The automatic initialization works because parent is a POD-like type (I don't know the strict requirement, perhaps it's just trivially constructible.). I won't work anymore once add a non-POD member like std::string. Better explicitly initialize your members.
 
 
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9:12 PM
I might check out Ace Attorney. It seems fun. @Mysticial @ ScarletAmaranth
 

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