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1:01 AM
"... is a working principle of well-established and wide-spreading X techniques
What are useless and unsupported phrase like "well-established" and "wide-spreading" called? Maybe weasel words?
 
 
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3:58 AM
Citibank's security is ridiculous bad, I have changed a new card because there was an unauthorized transaction that went through. But Citibank allowed another suspicious transaction to go through overseas on the last card that was reported lost/stolen a month after it's reported lost/stolen.
Seriously why would any bank allow transactions to go through on a credit card that reported compromised??
I am seriously thinking of closing the account. I don't know many people would still keep an account with a bank that's so slacking with their security.
 
 
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7:06 AM
@Mikhail Weasel words are ones you add so you can have what looks like a sweeping statement, but is actually deniable if needed. I'd usually refer to ones like these as just "fluff" (or "pure marketing").
 
nwp
Or buzz words.
 
@JerryCoffin they qualify as weasel words to me for just the reasons you listed, but I can see how there's room for disagreement
 
 
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11:43 AM
Can you create a subprocess on Windows in c++, not a thread a subprocess, if you know a library that can do so, please let me know.
 
12:05 PM
define subprocess
creating another process is more complicated than it needs to be but still fairly straightforward
 
12:26 PM
@anand_v.singh What's a subprocess? Why a 'subprocess', not just another process?
You can create multiple processes.
 
Okay I think some backgroung might hrlp
I work with Tensorflow
It has this known issue github.com/tensorflow/…
There are multiple Issues similar to this one, none with a proper solution
My idea is to get TensorFlow to release the GPU memory and continue with my process
Maybe I can shift the tasks of tensorflow to the subprocess
So the subprocess gets all the resources it needs and once it's done, the subprocess gets killed freeing the GPU memory
In my pipeline I have to call quite a few tensorflow models, so I need the GPU freed once my work is done
Once the subprocess is done, it releases memory that can now be assigned to another subprocess
 
nwp
I like how you copied the tensorflow issue link.
 
[‎9/‎16/‎2019 1:40 PM]
https://github.com/tensorflow/tensorflow/issues/15880

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https://github.com/tensorflow/tensorflow/issues/20387

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https://github.com/tensorflow/tensorflow/issues/19731

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https://github.com/tensorflow/tensorflow/issues/17048

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https://github.com/tensorflow/tensorflow/issues/19571

[‎9/‎16/‎2019 1:41 PM]
https://github.com/tensorflow/tensorflow/issues/1578
 
Sounds like you need a sequential of processes that share the same context.
 
@nwp sorry I was also asking this question on a different chatroom
@TelKitty I haven't heard of this, is there a library that can do it cross platform (Linux and windows)
@TelKitty Another process is as of now the leading Idea and then make the two process communicate via gPRC, I am just also interested if there is a way to do this without that as well
implementing gPRC ans seperate process is just a tad bit overhead
 
 
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3:22 PM
 
OMG the lil toy lidar even works on the pi with my 'special' DIY improvisation.
Just it takes forever to measure the distance when it's further than 1.5 meters.
Tomorrow I will start connecting the pi with arduino that sits on top of the robot with 4 servos.
 
 
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5:01 PM
@anand_v.singh On Windows, you create a process with CreateProcess.
@anand_v.singh Boost Process may be helpful. It's probably handy even if you don't care about portability--using CreateProcess directly is somewhat cumbersome.
 
5:30 PM
Can we try to keep this general enough to not need to point fingers at specific users? — fbueckert 17 secs ago
^^ but but but, pointing fingers is more fun.
 
@Mysticial angry user points fingers at crowd indiscriminately, news at 11
 
6:01 PM
@Mysticial And in this case, it appears that the accused was actually doing pretty much what s/he should have anyway.
 
 
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7:42 PM
@anand_v.singh qt also has a wrapper for this
 
8:36 PM
why does const cause this to fail method(const T (&arr)[N]) ) ?
I that that back ^ my bad
 
@Rick I'm not sure what that says, but presumably something to the effect that: "oh, yeah it really does work, and I just screwed up editing somehow" (or something like that)?
It certainly can work, in any case. coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/bcd4fce1c9d952f9
 
@JerryCoffin correct :-)
 
@Rick Oh, I'll bet the first "that" was supposed to be "take". That would give a meaningful sentence.
Some days I'm a little slow. I have no good excuse (though maybe I should blame it on Monday).
 
my brain is foggy on Mondays
 
8:58 PM
I hate how you can lose an entire day just setting up the environment. It is the worst part of software development. I want to just start writing code and solving problems.
 
@Rick My brain does its best to fulfill Scott Adams' claim: "Everyone is an idiot, not just the people with low SAT scores. The only differences among us is that we're idiots about different things at different times. No matter how smart you are, you spend much of your day being an idiot."
@Rick You can fix that with VMWare, ...err, LXC, Um I meant Docker, Oops Kubernetes. Yeah, that's this week's hotness...
Of course, it only works when somebody has already set things up correctly, and the tool of the week makes it quick and easy to duplicate what they've already done. Even then it doesn't always work, but at least it stands some chance...
 
@JerryCoffin lol Kubernetes is this week's new hottie
 
@Rick Okay, I don't try to keep track of trends. The real hipsters have probably forgotten it completely by now.
 
I have been noticing a trend. That developments in software architecture tend to lag behind CPU architecture. However, that probably makes sense, for it to be like that. Like microservices are a big deal now
Even though that's a framework the CPU industry has been using for a while now.
 
@Rick Microservices are just the latest in a long line of attempts at reducing software complexity by building a group of loosely coupled objects, each of which is individually small, simple, and highly coherent.
The desirability of doing that has been pretty widely agreed up for a long time, but every few years people devise new and different mechanisms to (they hope) do the job better.
 
9:17 PM
@JerryCoffin Interesting, so it's just a recycled idea implemented in new ways. So instead of using virtual containers they just used physical ones.
in the past I mean.
 
@Rick Something like that. At one time, people most concentrated on programming techniques to move that direction inside a single program, leading to structured programming, object oriented programming, functional programming, etc. Then they moved toward more distributed systems, and we got DCE RPC, CORBA, Sun ONC RPC, and so on. For that matter, UNIX shell scripts using pipes to put together a pipeline from little pieces is little different.
 
However, I have I feeling they are going to start talking about the parallel model of reducing software complexity, once this microservices model is exhausted
 
This poster is eerily representative of modern SO:
 
@Rick Maybe some day in the distant future, we'll even have hardware with (for example) a CPU with a dedicated "mailbox" to receive messages from other computers across the network. We could program it with a language named Occam, and call it a Transputer. Oh wait, sorry, I got history backwards... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam_(programming_language), en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transputer
@Mysticial I used to joke that "I'm an optimist, but retain a grasp on reality, which makes a lot of people think I'm a pessimist."
 
@JerryCoffin lol, I think virtualization is the big enabler of this trend. Having the same CPU run more than one environment at the same time.
@Mysticial well there is no downside in being a pessimist. It's a win-win in almost every case.
 
9:33 PM
> MOTIVATIONAL PRODUCTS DON'T WORK. BUT OUR DEMOTIVATOR® PRODUCTS DON'T WORK EVEN BETTER.
 
lol
 
actually, they are all hilarious
 
@Rick Another old joke ran something like "pessimists are never disappointed". I eventually concluded that it's not true though. People who get pessimistic are constantly pessimistic, no matter how well things go.
 
@JerryCoffin That's actually a good point, a better place would be on the fence, so you can just roll over to the winning side.
This is depressing, I'm starting to sound like Mikhail.
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9:41 PM
Consider a scene where Miss America offers a guy the whole multi-million dollar prize package if he marries her. A normal guy thinks: "millions of dollars and a girl who's gorgeous and intelligent, awesome!" A pessimist, on the other hand, would manage to start griping about how this would put him in a higher tax bracket, and that will just make life suck.
... and nobody will notice him when he's around a woman who looks like that, and if they do notice him, they'll immediately assume he's shallow, and ...
 
@JerryCoffin that's a good point, and that is true. However, you can probably be just as happy without that, by following Seneca advice: "lower your expectations"
Of course, it's a balancing act.
 
@Rick I think in a lot of cases, it's not that people's expectations are too high, just that they're too specific. I found out (long after the fact) that in a few cases, I could easily have dated women I never really even tried to, because I just assumed they were out of my league--but pursued others who weren't interested at all, solely because I thought I stood a better chance with them.
 
 
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11:14 PM
@Mysticial Despair posters are pretty old. I remember seeing them hanging in the office back in 2004 at my first job.
 

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