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10:00 PM
@MooingDuck Oh, no. I read complex values just fine. It's the difference between a file ending in <mytag>[lf] and <mytag>
 
C++ has complex numbers? >_>
 
@Drise With just a little massaging, that should be ready to feed to byacc. With a tad more massaging, it'll work with Spirit.
 
@melak47 yes
 
@melak47 Yep
 
@Drise ah
 
10:01 PM
figures.
 
just no bignum
 
@MooingDuck And oddly enough .good() fixes it. I'm just tired of this thing being riddled with bugs.
 
@Drise ideone.com/PBPBZ (had to make my own complex parser)
 
@MooingDuck Holy balls. That makes my code look like cave paintings.
 
@Drise That's because you don't understand how to implement a language at the most basic level.
also, your specification appears to suck horrifically
 
Ell
10:08 PM
woah, harsh much?
 
@Drise my complex parser is silly slow, Imma try to fix that
@Ell DeadMG? Harsh? Are you new?
 
@DeadMG Y U B So helpful? :-)
 
Ell
@MooingDuck I've never seen it put so bluntly :L
@DeadMG wide sucks horrifically
 
ideone.com/PBPBZ well that was easy
 
@Ell @DeadMG is the king of blunt.
 
10:09 PM
@Ell That's not even equivalent to what I said. He doesn't control the language spec.
 
@MooingDuck I can't wait to know C++ so I can read that. :-)
 
Ell
@DeadMG oops. Apologies. I thought you were blatantly taking a stab at his work. crawls back in to shell and sits ashamedly
 
does a && a count as a "boolean context" for a? (explicit conversion from stream to bool)
 
@MooingDuck I believe so.
 
@DeadMG strange
 
10:11 PM
@MooingDuck Yes.
All boolean operators do.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes but it's overloadable.
 
If you overload, your overload gets picked in preference to the other.
Standard overload resolution rules.
 
if I had a class A that's explicitly convertable to B, and write operator && (B, B), it wouldn't use the explicit conversion would it?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes well I don't like that answer
 
10:13 PM
No, wait, if it's an explicit conversion, no, never.
Only bools have contextual conversions. There are no user-defined contextual conversions.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes so the builtin cheats the rules?
 
@DeadMG Story of my life.
 
@MooingDuck Conversions to bool have special rules. It's not about being built-in.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes so bool cheats the rules.
 
After all istream::operator bool is not built-in.
@MooingDuck I guess you can say that, yes.
It's for good reasons though.
 
10:15 PM
I dislike how many places the primitives can do things user classes can't. What happened to "first class citizens"?
 
Well, when the alternative is madness, I'm okay with violating that idea.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I want unsigned bigint
 
I don't understand.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes the primitive types have whitespace in their names, but user types can't.
 
What's wrong with unsigned_bigint? The fact that some types can be specified with two, three, or four tokens is a holdover from C.
 
10:17 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes what's four tokens?
 
unsigned long long int.
 
oh right, forgot the int on the end
@R.MartinhoFernandes so? Give us that ability too (but recomend against it's usage)
 
@MooingDuck What for? It's not really important.
 
Ell
how would the class name look? class unsigned bigint { }; ?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes equality :(
 
Xeo
10:18 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes unsigned long long const volatile int
 
Fuck that.
 
@Ell yes
 
I don't want madness.
 
it shouldn't be done, and the fact that the old C types do sucks.
 
@Xeo const/volatile are modifiers, nobody wants that
 
10:18 PM
@Xeo That's a composite type something and we can do that for UDTs.
 
Xeo
I just read "4 token types", so I wanted to contribute with moar :P
 
@Xeo unsigned long long long long long long char
 
Xeo
@MooingDuck big<unsigned int> and big<int> :D
 
Ell
unsigned<massoff<int>>
oooh mass_of<H>
 
10:20 PM
@Ell unsigned is a keyword, that wouldnt work
 
Ell
oh darn
 
Anybody have thoughts on this?
http://news.yahoo.com/microsoft-nbc-dissolve-msnbc-com-joint-venture-021921421--finance.html
 
Xeo
> error: ‘long long long’ is too long for GCC
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I like this error
 
@JimNorton Oh, I have no idea what it means. That's my first thought :P
 
10:22 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes :D I don't know if it means anything will change... just a new name for the site perhaps.
 
don't you just hate it when you have a 20GB torrent
 
and the first 97.6% downloads at 4MB/s
and then the last bit downloads at like 1kbs
 
That's called endgame mode.
 
and it's like, 1 chunk from every single file, too.
 
10:24 PM
It's a feature.
I'm serious, btw.
Well, more specifically, endgame mode is a mode your client enters to counter that effect.
 
@DeadMG You downloading a whole season of some TV show in HiDef?
 
It doesn't always work, and your client may only enter it too late.
 
@JimNorton Four.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes whoa
 
@MooingDuck :)
@MooingDuck I started a BitTorrent client in the past, so I know these things :P
I want to finish that someday, but I really need to get in the habit of finishing projects.
So, ogonek first.
 
10:28 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I used to have programming projects until I started doing it for a living. :-(
 
@MooingDuck Thanks. You don't know how awesome you are.
 
At least he knows an upper bound: me :P
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Zing
 
@Drise You guys got it all working now?
 
@Drise Anyway, did you give up on .good and .eof and stuff? (I missed the rest of the conversation).
 
10:33 PM
I need a freakin' golden badge, so my new goal is to get the Populist badge, can't be that hard ("Highest scoring answer that outscored an accepted answer with score of more than 10 by more than 2x")
 
@JimNorton @MooingDuck gave me a good start on rewritting it.
 
@refp It is.
Get Fanatic instead.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes No. The solution to my old code was .good in a few places, but I'm going to propose a rewrite.
 
@Drise Excellent
 
The code is no longer maintainable.
It's buggy, and hard to follow.
 
10:34 PM
@refp Populist is hard to get without insulting the OP. It's almost always a surprise badge.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Fanatic will take at least.. 83 more days. Populist seems easy enough if you provide an answer to a question where the accepted answer has score of 11, and you make a really good answer, share it here and maybe get some (well deserved, ofc) help
 
Electorate is the easiest to get before 10k.
After 10k, Marshall is the easiest.
 
Haskell - so ugly.
 
@refp Yes, and the other answer gets no love.
 
@Mysticial Then just insult the OP.
 
10:35 PM
So, you'll need to find a crappy answer with 11 votes. Good luck.
 
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A: "error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol" when using templates

DriseTemplates should be implemented in the header. Method.h template<typename type> void Method(Model<type>* sys){ /*Your code here*/ }; See also: http://stackoverflow.com/a/495056/868546 From Mark Ransom: In the .cpp file, the compiler can't guess what the template parameter wil...

I assume I'm correct here?
 
@DomagojPandža You may need calibration.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes it's nice, but ugly.
 
@Drise yeppers
 
@Mysticial It can be hard if you had the wrong voting pattern for years.
 
10:36 PM
@Mysticial speaking of votes btw, I thought my current score of 855 this week was quite good, but then I checked out the "user" page and see that a guy has managed to whip forth a whopping 1 360.. one or more bounties though, but still
 
@DeadMG I'm only learning from the best.
 
@Drise Well, I do try to help.
 
@DomagojPandža Yep calibrations. let x = f x in x is the pinacle of beauty.
 
john skeet, that bastard, is always hard to beat though
;)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Don't really see what's beautiful about it.
 
10:37 PM
@refp My first gold badge was Marshal. Done after hitting 10k. Like you, I wanted a gold badge really badly - and was one of the few to have reached 10k without it.
 
@refp He wakes up every day rep capped.
@DeadMG Oh, I already knew you were badly calibrated too.
 
@Mysticial Your answer on branching was amazing.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes still he get's quite a few accepted answers each day
but yeah, I actually have to work quite hard to reach rep-cap
 
@Drise thx :)
@refp He does like 15 answers a day... I can't even find 15 questions that I can remotely answer in a day...
Granted, all I know is C, C++, and Java...
 
@DeadMG Nothing, really. It's a failure in bridging notions of lambda calculus, general math concepts and programming.
I'll stick to C++, because, holy shit, that makes me feel sick.
 
10:40 PM
I don't see why people are so eager to introduce mathematics to programming.
their relation is, IMO, not very close at all.
 
@Mysticial I thought I answered many questions today, and I answered 9 :/
though I often find questions in PHP/java that I could answer, but that I find too boring.. (also, I'm not a fan of neither)
 
once you get past algorithmic complexity, and Turing-complete, there's not much in it.
@refp Java is the worst language ever designed, and PHP is the worst language ever.
14
 
@Mysticial I have one helpful flag, how would I manage to get 500 now that I can't be "helpful"? :/
@DeadMG implying php isn't a designed language, mos def' +1!
 
@refp When you reach 10k, flags are easy to farm.
 
@Mysticial what do I have to do?
 
10:42 PM
It's actually true, it was never designed. It was puked by a guy who doesn't even consider himself a programmer.
 
@refp Look at the flag queue.
 
@refp Reach 10k and you get access to the flag queue.
 
No.
 
10:42 PM
No.
 
No.
 
Sweet.
 
Sweet.
 
was I the only one waiting for more No's before writing a message?
 
No.
 
10:43 PM
Beans
 
No.
 
Jelly
 
stop writing shit, I need to screenshot this
 
I said no.
 
10:43 PM
Tube
 
@sehe GG, sir, well played.
 
Xeo
pff
 
@refp What, marking conversation ain't enough?
 
@DeadMG marking conversation?
 
room -> create new bookmark
 
10:44 PM
The chat server is actually stalling
 
<- skids of to any java-chatroom to show them that we never talk about java in Lounge<C++>
 

No Java!

2 mins ago, 20 seconds total – 6 messages, 6 users, 0 stars

Bookmarked 6 secs ago by DeadMG

 
Bookmarks are not deletable.
 
@DeadMG ah thanks found it, didn't know about that feature

we never talk about java in Lounge<C++>

3 mins ago, 20 seconds total – 6 messages, 6 users, 0 stars

Bookmarked 33 secs ago by refp

 
the big brain am winning again! I am the greetest! Now I am dominating the recent stars for no raisin!
 
10:46 PM
there doesn't seem to be any java room that's active
 
Hey, bookmarks are not deletable. Please don't spam the list of bookmarks. It's fine to bookmark something stupid once in a while, but the same thing twice is not. Sometimes people use that list to search for actual things.
 
:(
what the..
oh, nevermind.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That I did not know. Nor did I know they were indexable.
 
@DeadMG What? You have two starred messages.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Wait, they're not?
 
@refp Looks like Java doesn't talk about Java either.
 
@Xeo There's nothing on the UI. At least that I could find.
 
how do you check how many starred messages you have supplied?
 
dude
 
Ooooh. Wait, there is a tiny, almost invisible x on conversations I bookmarked.
 
10:48 PM
if you bookmarked a conversation, there's a giant great big X in the corner.
 
Ok, nevermind what I said.
 
you're a muppet, it took me like 2 seconds to do that :P
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Indeed
 
@DeadMG Tiny, almost invisible. Also, I'm pretty sure it wasn't there back in the day.
 
"giant great big X" vs "almost invisible x", who are we to trust?
 
10:48 PM
Robots.
 
unicorns.
 
Xeo
Yeah, can't trust humans
 
there's a thing, it's an X, it was easy to see.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Tiny, unimportant, useless, almost invisible. Like Haskell.
 
Are you trying to upset me or something?
 
10:49 PM
@Xeo if there were humans in this room I'd just kill myself, I feel better hanging out with things of my own sort
 
@DeadMG It wasn't there before. I'm going to prove it. Gimme a while.
 
Haskell is anything but invisible.. you take a glance at it once and then can't make it unseen. Haskell, the language who makes programmers wanna kill themselves since they don't understand shit at first glance
 
see, it's a giant great big X
 
Xeo
@refp I understand that I don't understand shit.
 
10:51 PM
the source picture is bigger- for some reason onebox made a tiny pic even smaller
 
(a -> b) -> [a] -> [b] | Who'd want to write this crap voluntarily?
 
@refp if you want to kill yourself just because you don't understand a piece of code, you're a moron.
 
@DeadMG Because it knows it's small.
 
@RadekSlupik It was a joke.
 
@DomagojPandža Logicians. A implies b implies a implis b. I don't even know that's logical.
 
10:52 PM
@DomagojPandža my statement wasn't.
 
@RadekSlupik who said I considered myself to be a programmer?
 
@RadekSlupik You're a minor, your statements don't count.
 
There's only programmers and morons.
I don't think those two are mutually exclusive, btw.
 
@refp “you” as in “people in general”.
 
@RadekSlupik I'm not "people in general".
 
10:53 PM
robot, are you a Chrome user?
 
@refp you are one of people in general.
The robot is coated in chrome.
 
@RadekSlupik I'm not what "people in general", I'm a fucking bot.
The unicorn is coated with nullptrs
 
@Drise Actually, (a->b) is a parameter to a function which itself is a function from a to b, from the "domain" to the "codomain" by certain, established rules.
 
@DeadMG Yes.
 
And then -> and more ->
 
10:54 PM
A unicorn is coated with corn.
 
uni-corn, uni corn
 
Korn
 
unique_ptr<corn> ?
 
I don't see why you would ever name a type “corn”.
 
@DomagojPandža I'm going to file that as aversion to the new. Unless you don't really think C function declarators are sane.
 
10:56 PM
std::is_same<unicorn_ptr<T>, unicorn_parts::horn>::value_type -> true_type
 
Unicorn is an attempt to standardize all the cornpages in use and bring them together into a single standard.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Maybe, but it just feels ugly and unstructured. Have you actually had a chance to employ it for something useful? (honest question)
 
unicornstream << horse << horn << rainbow;
 
How does it scale in relation to C++?
 
@refp While I'm tempted to start because TMP! MUST STARZ! I won't because value_type is bool.
 
10:58 PM
Does anyone know how to find that gaggle krum image @cicada posted?
 
@DomagojPandža Employ what? Haskell? FWIW, I can't really say I've yet employed C++ for something useful. So you're asking the wrong person :S
 
@Drise Via the transcript.
 
@RadekSlupik Trying, but I can't remeber the date
 
@Drise chat.stackoverflow.com/search?q=gaggle+krum&room=10 I would assume it's one of these days
 

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