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12:03 AM
@JerryCoffin make the fill fairly solid and be prepared to print again in a few months
 
@ratchetfreak ...and based on consumer-level 3D printing I've seen, your 3D printed vise has poor tolerance and is too weak to be useful, even the day you make it.
 
I'm talking about just the pressure pad or a shim, not the entire thing
I know that thermoplast won't have enough strength to replace a vice
 
You're all a bunch of novices. You 3D print the plastic part. Embedded it in sand. Then poor in molten platinum to get the final product.
 
What "shim" ? You mean the jaw lining?
 
or what @BartekBanachewicz was talking about: a shim to help align a bad vice. The jaw lining is what I called the pressure pad
 
12:18 AM
@ratchetfreak A "vice" is bad by definition. A "vise" might be a different story. A 3D printed shim...probably not a great idea either, but depending on the design, it at least might be workable. As for the "pressure pad", my guess it 3D printed material would work poorly. It's a simple part that needs to be strong. 3D printing is mostly good for intricate parts where strength matters little (if at all).
 
`The artifacts strongly resemble another type of object with a known purpose – storage vessels for sacred scrolls from nearby Seleucia on the Tigris.[11] Since these vessels were exposed to the elements,[1][b][improper synthesis?] it is possible that any papyrus or parchment inside had completely rotted away, perhaps leaving a trace of slightly acidic organic residue.[12] Although the Seleucia vessels do not have the outermost clay jar, they are otherwise almost identical.[1][b]

The object was looted along with thousands of other artifacts from the National Museum during the 2003 invasion
The Baghdad Battery or Parthian Battery is a set of three artifacts which were found together: a ceramic pot, a tube of copper, and a rod of iron. It was discovered in modern Khujut Rabu, Iraq, close to the metropolis of Ctesiphon, the capital of the Parthian (150 BC – 223 AD) and Sasanian (224–650 AD) empires, and it is considered to date from either of these periods. Its origin and purpose remain unclear, and further evidence is needed to explain its purpose. It was hypothesized by some researchers that the object functioned as a galvanic cell, possibly used for electroplating, or some kind of...
 
I wouldn't expect the printed pads to last forever, getting more and more dented over time. But long enough to get some use out of them and protect whatever I'm clamping from the metal in the jaw
 
@Mikhail Actual Baghdad battery:
@ratchetfreak I'm not convinced they'd last to through clamping one piece. Protection is rarely needed, but when it is, you usually use wood or leather. At least offhand, plastic seems like the opposite of anything you'd want. In particular, it tends to be relatively slippery, the opposite of what you want here.
 
12:52 AM
For more power, connect a few potatoes together ...
 
 
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2:58 AM
@TelKitty Truly renewable energy (though rather low in power density).
 
3:09 AM
A business person with criminal intent could possibly trying to sell those leftover potatoes as 'low calorie potatoes' (assume energy conservation in an enclosed potato).
 
3:25 AM
Whoever did this is a genius ... with a at one stage pissed off cat ...
 
3:48 AM
@TelKitty I don't think most of the energy comes from the potato itself. It's just a medium, with the energy coming from the disparate metals (but the metals do pollute the potato, so eating it afterwards would be a bad idea).
 
 
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6:16 AM
@JerryCoffin Iron enriched low calorie potatoes?
The feeling when you are changing clothes, stripping naked, then look outside the window and see a bird on the fence staring at you ... birds are curious about naked people probably because most of them don't see people naked often.
 
7:17 AM
^ I wonder whether this site spams mail servers just to see their responsiveness ...
Emails Sent to stackoverflow.com: 1,876

Open Rate to stackoverflow.com: 283 (15.1%)
 
7:53 AM
@JerryCoffin the world remains pretty big :(
 
@BartekBanachewicz Less than 13'000 km diameter... Doesn't seem all that large.
 
@JerryCoffin well, my line of thinking was that there are no significant forces going on there and the shim would just be tightly pressed between the parts
but if I wanted to add adjustment screws, then I think it ought to be something more sturdy
I still haven't figured out how those screws work tbh
 
@BartekBanachewicz What you'd really like is a gib, most likely. Basically you start with an angle machined into one side of one of the parts, then have a wedge with matching angle, and a screw on the end to push the wedge so it's tight.
With luck, the one you have is more like this though:
 
8:14 AM
@JerryCoffin oooooooooh
that's for the dovetails, though
mine is entirely straight
but I suppose I could make one side of it slanted (or both)
and then if I added such a gib it would push it appropriately
like that
of course making that cut and that part would be much easier with a milling machine, which is virtually always the case
I watched a video yesterday of someone fabricating what amounted to a $200 roller, at one point using a cutter I estimated to around $500.
but hey, at least I know that "a gib" is a word now and I can google for it
I doubt that anyone cares, but this short thread has some more useful information
 
9:07 AM
is that just to take out the horizontal slop (is vertical also a problem?) - just a flat bar on the side (?)
 
9:20 AM
@ABuckau it has play in both axes
@ABuckau also that flat bar would essentially be the gib
 
what machine is it for
 
9:46 AM
@ABuckau it's just a vise
 
10:04 AM
@Feeds Can't parse that. Must be because it's Monday morning.
 
In finance, technical analysis is an analysis methodology for forecasting the direction of prices through the study of past market data, primarily price and volume. Behavioral economics and quantitative analysis use many of the same tools of technical analysis, which, being an aspect of active management, stands in contradiction to much of modern portfolio theory. The efficacy of both technical and fundamental analysis is disputed by the efficient-market hypothesis which states that stock market prices are essentially unpredictable. == History == The principles of technical analysis are derived...
It's basically mocking technical analysis when the prices of stocks are supposed to move in random walks.
 
10:52 AM
It's pretty scary when you realised that every piece of meat has been grow with a brain.
 
11:49 AM
Waiting for the 5V power supply to arrive in mail then I can resume work on my autonomous robot claw. I would need another rPi or something more powerful.
 
12:02 PM
@TelKitty it's enough to turn people vegetarian
 
 
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1:09 PM
@ratchetfreak Maybe humans can learn to eat less meat, but there are many different species of carnivores and are not designed to eat vegetation. Moreover, number of livestock actually flourished because of this co-dependent relationship with humans. There wouldn't be 19 billion chickens if humans do not need them. So all the chickens that weren't supposed to be born have been given a chance to live for a little while.
 
@TelKitty but what life do they have
a lot of commercial farming is inhumane
 
1:29 PM
@ratchetfreak free range livestock here lives a pretty good life until they make the ultimate sacrifice. But you know Australian population is sparse and livestock in many other countries would not be as lucky.
 
not as lucky being crammed 10 to a cage that can fit 5, dead cage mates not getting removed, and no vet care whatsoever
 
I have seen cows in a renown diary farm living on a gigantic piece of hilly land covered with green vegetation, over looking the ocean while on a multi-day bushwalk.
 
@TelKitty don't cows outnumber humans in the norther territories... by 10:1 or more?
 
@ratchetfreak Many chicken farmers free range.
@Mgetz Could be ... most population are located on the east coast, I wouldn't be surprised if on average each farmer owns more than 10 cows.
 
there are still plenty of non-free range chicken factories
 
1:54 PM
@ratchetfreak There is luck involved in almost everything.
 
 
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9:45 PM
so, i have an idea
I need 1mm steel plate
and I'll just shim it from the bottom
I've measured and the clearance doesn't exceed 1mm anywhere, so if I polish the slide slightly to make it slide more easily, and polish the shim a bit where necessary, I should get a pretty good fit
and I can use the main mounting bolt to hold the shim in place, so I don't need to drill anything extra
 
10:41 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Sounds pretty clean.
 
oh right, I forgot
here it is in all the crappy glory
 
I don't think I've ever seen a vise welded up out of that many pieces before.
 
I think the crap reference one I posted was quite similar
yesterday, by Bartek Banachewicz
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Could be--if it is, the fillet welding is less visible, but I don't think it's possible to rule it out either.
 
Unless you have 10+ years making it, tool bought from professional shop is almost always better than the DIY counterpart.
 
10:49 PM
I actually tried it out in store today, and the screw is much worse than mine
could be because it's all too tight and not greased up enough, but eh
 
Have a DIY fixed lawn mower, backyard is somewhat permanently half mowed because some part of it always breaks down when the backyard is half done. Reminded me, I need to buy a new lawn mower.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yeah, a lot of cheap ones are really rough when brand new. Here in the US there's a chain called Harbor Freight that sells tons of crap like that. Most of it can work perfectly reasonably if you're willing to put a little work into taking it apart and doing some polishing and such though.
 
@JerryCoffin hence might as well do the same with the one I own which is free
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yup.
 
saving up for carbide lathe cutters
well, and a freaking shopvac. I actually blew away my money for a new phone for my GF
I couldn't stand her complaining about the old one anymore :D I believe that's a valid reason
 
10:54 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Pretty sure that's the usual reason for replacing phones.
 
You might got a free vice, but you ended up buying whole bunch of tools to make it work ...
 
@TelKitty just like that one time when I bought an oscilloscope to fix a flashlight? :)
 
@TelKitty So you end up with a working vise + a bunch of others for the price of a vise by itself.
 
it's the perfect excuse for buying new tools, and the secret is that it's all just about new tools
 
@BartekBanachewicz Get a good oscilloscope with a nice, bright screen that can run on batteries...why bother with a flashlight?
 
10:56 PM
lol
I'm actually really glad that I got it back then, made a lot of use of it
@TelKitty also it's mostly sandpaper and new paint. I have more tools than I can count (and reach) currently which I sorta inherited
I still need to sort them out and see what's worth keeping, but I got it all out when I was renovating the walls and stuff so it sits in a huge pile in my garage
yeah, I really wish days were like 26h
 
@BartekBanachewicz Sandpaper makes metal thinner and new paint will make it thicker.
 
Calculate before you sand it down then paint it - speaking from experience.
 
@TelKitty I'm not gonna paint the moving surfaces
those will be fitted separately and greased
 
11:23 PM
grease takes up space
 
11:39 PM
> -Og should be the optimization level of choice for the standard edit-compile-debug cycle, offering a reasonable level of optimization while maintaining fast compilation and a good debugging experience.
maybe it shouldn't double the compile times then ._.
 

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