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2:23 AM
I need to get a bengal cat sometimes in the future.
 
 
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7:55 AM
Despite these successes, some influential founders of AI, including John McCarthy
, Marvin Minsky, Nils Nilsson and Patrick Winston, have expressed discontent with the progress of AI. They think that AI should put less emphasis on creating ever-improved versions of applications that are good at a specific task, such as driving a car, playing chess, or recognizing speech. Instead, they believe
AI should return to its roots of striving for, in Simon’s words, “machines that think, that learn and that create.” They call the effort human-level AI or HLAI; their first symposium was in 2004. The e
Please let me know why we need human level A.I. when animals do a better job at many other things. A.I. should be complement of what humans can do, not in competition.
Do we need more human like electronics or do we need autonomous machines that handle jobs that human has difficult of doing and machines are better at?
 
 
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nwp
9:00 AM
@TelKitty Because we are lazy and still want cool stuff. Things like finding the root cause of an error in a program is something I would think an AI could be good at. You can't train a monkey to do that.
And the "competition" is like with any invention. Electric light is just better than people constantly replacing candles. Ideally the AIs will replace significant amount of work that is currently being done by people.
 
if you had a robot that could make anythimg you desired, youd still be programming?
 
nwp
Probably.
People still cook even though you can have food delivered to your door. It's not that weird.
 
9:17 AM
but not for the same price.. and ya i would too, because its a hobby..but for that reason i probably wouldnt want the robot doing my hobby unless i absolutely couldnt do it. i wouldnt be doing anything that serious though.
 
nwp
People still run marathons even though cars are much better at it. Having a machine that solves a problem doesn't mean we can't play around with it anymore.
And the "without AI support" category will fix any such issues.
 
of course. id be working in a shop a lot, even though a robot could do it better.
mm..feels like lowering the bar to me :p valid category, sure, but if actually made AI, that would automatically come with it.
 
nwp
9:32 AM
Speedrunners already have that and nobody cares that a bot can do the frame-perfect tricks much more consistently.
 
i feel like we're talking about two different things
im saying robots could do all yhe mundane (etc) tasks, and youre saying they shouldnt (wont?) replace everythimg we do. both are true.
 
 
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1:01 PM
Fucking fuel up the hype-train BITCHES!!!! Time to start nominating places to go to for uncon this year! Form link here
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Pin plz
 
 
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7:29 PM
@Mysticial so I was going to fork y-cruncher and add compute shader variants of each test and then I saw your licensing... so that project won't be happening.
 
@Mgetz It's closed sourced. You can't fork it anyway.
 
8:08 PM
@Mysticial Actually forking is enabled on that repo. I meant to tell you so you could disable it.
 
oh
 
In fact I did so, then had to delete it
and the clone
That said I do think it would be interesting to have shader variants of each test to stress test and compare graphics cards
 
I don't actually see an option to disable forking.
@Mgetz The stress-tests aren't in there.
 
ah
 
The only code that's in that repo is a bunch of support code.
 
8:13 PM
ah
Just curious, why keep it closed source?
 
Way too much proprietary code, algorithms.
And all the validation code for competitive benchmarking.
 
I see, I can't really respond to that without basically being completely uninformed and probably wrong
 
9:00 PM
What would be an example of a proprietary algorithm?
Also calculating pi is a form of large integer multiplication, which is done with an fft like algorithm. You can probably instrument cufft and get massive throughout improvements out of the box. Most importantly you can just use cufft benchmark as a proxy for pi calculation, making the effort somewhat redundant.
 
@Mysticial github policy says that when you put a repo on github you give permission to everyone to fork it
 
@ratchetfreak Not private repos surely
 
9:28 PM
@Borgleader contributors can optionally fork private repos, and those forks stay private
this used to be able to provide unlimited free private repos, where you forked and then deleted the original
 
now unlimited free repos are just available by default
 
hence "used to"
I need vise advice
pun intended
I have an old non-dovetail crappy vise
is it even worth it to attempt cleanup/repair or should I trash it
 
Yeah there isn't many ways a vice can go bad. Just clean with phosphoric acid and wd40 it up.
 
@Mikhail well it's crappily made to begin with
the screw is good and turns smoothly
but the slide itself has a lot of play
both sideways and up/down
it looks somewhat like this
the inner part is a C-shape, the outer is just welded from 4 parts
cheap as fuck
 
9:44 PM
if you can find another cheap one it may be time to scrap that one
 
@ratchetfreak well from what I've seen I'd need to spend at least €50
to get something with a dovetail and of respectable size
 
is having a good vice worth that for you?
 
yes, but I have a shitload of other tools to buy
and every one I buy gets me further from the main one, the lathe
so I wouldn't really mind, but, using this one means drilling my desk
so if I choose to upgrade soon I'll be stuck with misaligned holes
I suppose the new one I'd buy wouldn't be smaller, so it ought to cover them at least, but still
 
I owuld expect those holes to have some standard-ish spacing though
 
I was just wondering if I could do something, shim it or whatever, to reduce the play
@ratchetfreak well I've measured and it doesn't appear so, also the big ones obviously have the holes further apart
 
9:49 PM
would a C-clamp be a good enough temp solution?
 
well ironically
I have a good vise in my garage
but it's not technically mine
sooo I suppose I might just run from the workshop to the garage every time until I break and spend the money
I don't really care about the size of it that much I suppose, but I'd like it to be precise enough to clamph things together etc
 
10:08 PM
hmm
apparently some vises have screws that allow reducing the play
Maybe I could add that to mine
 
You should use a second vice to fix the first vice in place
 
lol
but i mean
how does that work
does this screw just screw in and push on the slider?
 
I guess, I would hope there is a low friction pad on the other side though
 
@ratchetfreak I'd expect that as well
well, this looks like a simple enough addon
actually it has crossed my mind to 3D-print a sleeve for it
 
11:01 PM
@Mikhail then again, that’s your answer for everything
 
If shipping weren't quite so expensive, I'd be tempted to send you a vise:
 
11:46 PM
This is really for use on a milling machine, not a bench vise, though.
 
Idk, I think Bartek can make a pretty good vice with his 3D printer
 
@Mikhail Maybe I'm just prejudiced, but somehow 3D printing a vise doesn't sound like a great plan.
 

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