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3:07 AM
Why in programming, we often have to learn things that are going to be obsolete in 2-3 years and will never be relevant thereafter again?
Like as if our precious lives are not short enough already?
 
 
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5:29 AM
@TelKitty Like what?
@TelKitty How long can you hold your breath?
 
 
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7:45 AM
@fredoverflow Like you learn Window 7 but soon they upgrade to Window 10, you spend hours learning objective C to make ios apps and they move onto swift. It took you months to make android apps in Java and they soon make kotlin official android language. They make proper working functions obsolete almost as frequent as they change their underwear.
@fredoverflow Not very long, but I can keep the camera in the water for a long time while changing breath every now and then. Thus the shaky camera recording.
 
 
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10:54 AM
@TelKitty what? the only example there that matches what you said is the iOS apps things
 
11:18 AM
The first C2x feature made it into the working draft :o
 
11:38 AM
@thecoshman I have hundreds of obsolete functions in my apps that were once legit.
Says nothing about my app quality of course :x
Also app stopped working properly after some API downgrade upgrade
 
12:13 PM
Linux devs also "make proper working functions obsolete almost as frequent as they change their underwear". That's why they don't smell so good...
@TelKitty That was @TelKitty
 
12:27 PM
It probably does. But at least other than having to restart services on my linux server every couple of months, I don't have to rewrite part of my website every two years because API changes.
 
12:54 PM
@TelKitty It wasn't a very good joke (I was trying to suggest that the problem is averted simply by not changing one's underwear)
 
 
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2:35 PM
@JerryCoffin So, I've started looking at things again. I see how cmos and ttl differ, but one thing I can't grasp still is why they seem so tightly coupled to using fet or bjt
Like... what is it about the bjt/fet that means you use them for ttl/cmos?
 
3:22 PM
@thecoshman Mostly that they allow you to use one signal to control another signal. In theory you could use other things (e.g., tubes, an SCR or Triac), but a transistor is simpler and more effective.
 
3:33 PM
Yeah, so the circuit diagrams for ttl and cmos could both be implemented with either bjt or fet?
It seems that bjt's are generally what you need is you are controlling a motor, as fets tend to not be able to handle high currents.
But if all I'm doing is logic circuits, both would be ok?
Though, it sounds like FETs are a nicer option, as they draw less power when not switching
 
4:02 PM
@thecoshman Yeah--bipolar devices basically run on current, so you need to have current flowing for them to do much of anything. FETs are based a lot more on voltage, so you can use insulated gates that allow you to generate a voltage field (so to speak) with almost no current flowing.
 
 
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5:02 PM
Guys, are there commodities exchanges that deal with raw plastics? I want to find out unit price for different plastics.
 
5:17 PM
Somewhat funny this actually exists
 
 
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6:18 PM
@Mikhail It would be more fun if the prices were less elastic, and more plastic (sorry, I know it's an obvious one, but you know how I am...)
 
6:51 PM
Looks like something blew up on IPS yesterday regarding the HNQ list. And there's meta rage all over it.
 
@Mysticial On m.se or m.so (or both?)
 
MSE
 

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