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12:02 AM
@sehe At an extreme, I know of a few people who are "trapped in a fairy tale".
 
I'm not sure what that means. It could be people too depressed to change their lives around?
Or rather paralyzed to think outside the "local optimum" (which would lead psychological issues again).
 
@sehe Woah, you mentioned one of the key words, "depressed". Which is the a big part of the irony because it's the exact opposite of a fairy-tale and yet they tend to be a lot more interrelated than I had thought.
 
It came naturally because you used the word "trapped"
Any kind of non-physical jail can be conquered with energy. Not having energy is the downward spiral I know as depression.
 
@sehe I know of a couple people who seem to fit into that category.
 
There's too many of us.
I do think that it's hard for humans to exceed their local culture.
Within that culture there's usually only marginal room for deviation.
And this statistical notion is probably for the best. Imagine a world filled with Elons. We'd be quarelling, and everybody would be flat broke and frustrated.
 
12:15 AM
Here's one example. This person basically grew up in an overprotective family. Extremely high-achieving, both academically and professionally. So much so to the point that she's never experienced a failure or a hardship. So she doesn't know failure when she sees it coming and she doesn't know a sinking ship when she's on it.
The situation right now is that she has worked her entire professional career at a startup. She has basically sold her soul to it. The startup is collapsing and she's in denial. So she shuts herself out from life and works long hours. She knows she can't save it, but she doesn't want to think about it and just keeps burying her head in the sand to the situation. And it's destroying her.
 
Is she the owner of the startup?
Or just an employee?
I could understand if she's the founder.
 
12:31 AM
@StackedCrooked Just an employee, but an early one who's been there from the start. But because the startup is failing, it's had to many rounds of funding that everybody's share (other than the founders) has been diluted so much that it's basically worth nothing.
IOW, there's no reason to stay anymore. But the concept of "sunk cost" can be very hard to swallow - especially if you're so invested into it. So she's trapped in her own jail.
 
Sounds like a company that will go bankrupt soon.
I suppose she's asian?
 
@StackedCrooked It's not there yet. But it's at the point where the VC's will start losing patience any moment. And the company still doesn't have a viable business model.
@StackedCrooked yeah
 
Suppose there's a big cultural difference.
In America there's the saying "you win some, you lose some". Contrast that to samurai code where failure means seppuku.
Ok, that's an extreme example.
But, I think do prefer the american way of thinking.
 
@Mysticial Oh boy. That's relatable. (Not the near-genius part, just the "I'll fix this by working harder")
As a slight counterpoint, I'm pretty proud of myself for sticking around at my startup, even though they couldn't afford me for 8 months. When I got back in April, they could only promise me 3 months. During these three months, the product got acquired with the team.
Sometimes sticking with it does work. Of course, the premise here is that the product is viable, and a party exists that has the ambition to make it continue.
Then there's the UK where police officers are still friends with UKIP politicians after that politician murders his wife with his bare hands¹ because "Well. These things happen". :doink:


¹ (because she found out he was having an affair with his son's girlfriend)
 
That's a rather big context switch :)
 
12:45 AM
> "These things happen"
ok really
 
@sehe But if you know the product is good and you know you can make the difference with your skills then that's a different thing than being in denial about a sinking ship.
 
@StackedCrooked I'm not Asian but I'm making the same mistake. Actual Americans don't do STEM.
The American way of thinking is more like "I'll just inherit a bunch of money from my parents, and invest in real-estate."
Also spend 20 years "finding yourself"
 
1:22 AM
@StackedCrooked I'm aware of it. I still felt silly during these months. And it might have just as well botched out.
So, I took a big risk, and I'm happy for it.
@Borgleader Thanks. I one-upped myself by also responding to the support satisfaction survey. In the only style I know how to: exhaustive. So the survey is 3 radiobuttons, a 1-5 star rating and a free text box.
Here's what the textbox contained in the end: paste.ubuntu.com/p/w6gVdj7J7M
@LouiseRawAuthor @JMoncktonSmith @pippajbanham "Following the verdict, former politician Bill Mountford told BBC Suffolk he still considered Searle "a friend", adding "these things happen"." These. Things. Happen..?? I'm left speechless by his attempts to normalise this murder.. #VAW #ToxicMasculinity
 
IIRC, "N" editions are without Windows Media Player, now, why are they considered two different versions for purposes of licensing is the true wtf
@sehe truly sickening
 
1:38 AM
@milleniumbug Indeed
 
1:50 AM
muhahaha. Entertaining trolling on reddit reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/8zf0xd/…
 
 
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2:54 AM
Hi folks
 
3:29 AM
hello
 
3:50 AM
Anyone here have experience with being asked to refactor a legacy file?
 
I once refactored PAML (philogenetics, C89 code)
 
How would you recommend starting out? I have a function that's 6000 lines long. Should I first break it down to multiple functions? Or should I first write unit test cases and then move stuff around?
 
4:27 AM
I'd do validation tests, and step through with a graphical debugger (or KCachegrind to get a function call map).
Also, you shouldn't remove functions for line counts, you should remove them for not functioning...
 
 
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7:55 AM
@sehe But...but...murders do happen.
/me runs
 
8:17 AM
I love trolls.
 
 
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Ven
12:27 PM
Hi,
 
Ven
What is up in your Babel Tower of Haxel, Bartek?
 
@Ven I asked an SO question
and Circle refuses to pick up my test artifacts :(
agh damn does the file need to be named results.xml specifically
I'm not sure if I'll bother with merging that to master tbh
a lot of hassle for not too much gain
wait fuck
uegh
eh, seriously, and the only thing I get back from circle is just a number of failed tests?
so not worth it
 
Ven
12:49 PM
The question about outputting stdout+xml?
 
1:09 PM
"Despite the antiquity of the C and C++ programming languages and the relative difficulty of writing reliable code in either" (see here) Can you endorse these views?
 
@Walter the bold thing? certainly
 
So why is C++ still in use? Just because of its code base?
 
@Walter a lot of existing code and not too many better alternatives
but its use has shrunk a lot
at least proportionally; given that software grows in its entirety, the total amount of C++ code in use might have well risen
 
1:31 PM
@Walter I'm not sure I'd completely endorse them, but most of the possible alternatives have variations of the same problem. Rust, for one obvious example, still has unsigned types. It does prohibit mixing signed and unsigned arithmetic, which is one common source of problems in C++. That's not enough to prevent the problem you cite though.
 
dang it
implementing lenght for mixed Lua arrays is quite a pain
I wonder if I should store them as a pair of maps
and keep numerical values in one map, and all other values in another
then length could be simply returning the biggest index from that map and that's it
alternatively I could reorder the constructors so that the numbers are always "biggest" keys
I suppose that's gonna be the easiest for now
I can always refactor later
 
Ven
1:48 PM
are you back to working on your lua vm?
 
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Q: Open HTML page using C++ and open gl

Marwa AghaI am writing a program in C++ using Visual studio with openGL what I need to do is create an HTML page we want to open the page after sing up to account can anyone help?

Not sure what OpenGL and opening an HTML have to do with each other
 
@Borgleader Both start with "open"?
 
2:28 PM
@Borgleader Beginners tend to lean really hard on the golden hammer. When they know only a few things, they think all of these things are related to their problem and can be used to solve it.
 
2:46 PM
@EtiennedeMartel yeah i guess when all you have a hammer everything starts to look like a nail
 
 
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6:35 PM
I really hope I'm not reading that answering a linux answer to a windows question wants to become rude as well? Sweet mother of potatoes in her beforgotten palace, are you fecking serious? I mean, a bad answer maybe, even though there's really anything that says that it does not apply as well, but I mean, you want people to wash asker's feet as well? Maybe some massage oil while we're at it? — Félix Gagnon-Grenier 4 mins ago
^^ ahaha
 
 
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10:44 PM
Fun read
 
11:28 PM
> According to Johannis Gross in Kurze Basler Chronik (1624), in 1474 a rooster was put on trial in the city of Basel for "the heinous and unnatural crime of laying an egg"
A punishment well deserved I'd say.
 

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