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1:00 PM
@thecoshman No worries, we'll do what we can. It's never been a problem to degrade quality. :Đ
 
@DeadMG "If a ship is in proximity of a planet, it's speed increases and / or it's acceleration increases -> speed gradually increases. -kind of thing. " Nothing realistic, but you simply move faster in close vicinity of mass-ive objects.
 
why the hell would you do that?
that's completely counter-intuitive
and what's the gameplay benefits?
 
@DeadMG Improved tactical depth of the game.
 
Gravity slingshooting!
 
@DomagojPandža think of it more as upping the quality for those who can run it
 
1:02 PM
@CatPlusPlus That requires gravitational pull, which is explicitly not what he said.
@ScarletAmaranth How does it improve the tactical depth of the game?
just adding random things doesn't make a game more deep
 
@DeadMG Any resource you can make use of in the fight improves the tactical depth of the game.
 
@ScarletAmaranth That's not true at all. You can most definitely decrease the tactical depth of the game.
for example, if the resource is too strong, you can make all the others worthless and remove depth you already had
 
@DeadMG That's correct. Yet I don't think that's the scenario for the massive objects :) It will be something little extra.
 
or if the resource is unintuitive, you simply piss off all the first time players who get owned by someone else using it which they could not possibly have expected.
 
@thecoshman Often games on lower details are actually easier to play, less shiny distracting things.
 
1:03 PM
and then they quit playing the game because it's dumb
btw Domagoj
 
Look at competitive Quake: they even turn off textures completely.
 
@CatPlusPlus but, people can chose to play at lower quality and have less distractions
 
I decided to cut the details of the rendering implementation from the design document
I figure it will make your job easier to not have the implementation of engine trails dictated
 
@DeadMG You're discarding it because "you think it's dumb" :) it's not a space sim ...
 
No problem, I'll try to refrain from general game design considerations and concentrate on actually getting stuff on the screen. I'm game with whatever you decide, just make it fun.
 
1:05 PM
Well, the design doc should be more 'design' orientated. It needs to be talking about what we want, not how to make it happen
 
@ScarletAmaranth Get a random sample of 100 users and ask them whether a spaceship moves faster when close to a planet, regardless of direction.
 
@DeadMG We're not making a simulator zomfg :D
 
no, but everybody knows that gravity pulls you in
and when you go counter to that, then you get a lot of frustrated players, because they expected gravity to pull you in but it didn't
 
Also, we're not making Angry Birds in space. Keep that in mind. I want some sexy mature thinking, not screaming birds.
 
Are you seriously saying "everybody knows <whatever>" in a game that's about ships pewpewing themselves in space ?
 
1:08 PM
Amaranth, as we get further into the general design of the game, you can simply branch parts of it
 
@DeadMG You want bigger ship debris to hit smaller ones but not the same size ones. Everybody knows it should at least partially damage equal sized vessels.
 
pretty sure that people are going to have preconceptions over how gravity behaves, yes.
 
and experiment with your ideas.
 
Hello all.
 
@ScarletAmaranth Yeah, that's what I said. I said that it should not do significant damage to equally sized or larger ships.
 
1:08 PM
Everybody knows space is fluid.
 
Hey, Etienne!
 
not that it should not hit them, because it should.
 
@DeadMG Pretty sure game developers generally play test stuff before they assume things about player behavior.
 
@DeadMG You said you don't want small fighter debris damage small fighters.
 
yeah, people know that moving past a planet will try to pull you towards it. I think the idea using planets to perform sharp bends sounds really cool
 
1:09 PM
Guys, you can test everything. You can have delicious tears in the game if you want.
 
We simply need ship - massive object interaction.
 
Just the outline now, the most important notions behind the game.
 
@ScarletAmaranth Fighters are so small, the player would be lucky if he could ever see any fighter debris beyond the second after it explodes. There's little reason to even add it into the game.
 
@thecoshman You can go around the planet, using gravity as a launcher.
 
sbi
 
1:10 PM
That's cool.
 
The thing we want to avoid is gravity messing with your unit formations when you're not controlling them.
 
Also, you can't beat EVE on delicious tears.
 
@DeadMG I could discard your argument as "I think people will think it's dumb" honestly ;)
 
that's a pretty goddamn good argument making a game
 
@EtiennedeMartel depends how big the formations are :P
 
Also, is this now a room project, or what, that everyone says "we"?
 
@DeadMG Well thats an argument you made a while ago :)
 
@CatPlusPlus Yes. You weren't there yesterday, right?
 
a game is a user interface, if you present people with a situation, and you don't behave how they expect you to, then you fail
 
@CatPlusPlus catach up cat
 
1:11 PM
And speaking of starship design, because I'm an obsessed physicist in my free time, if I were working on a starship, it would have computerized attitude control. If the system says all halt, you take a reference frame of the nearest object and counter all forces.
 
@DeadMG If you train them first, then it becomes alright.
 
So, I'm with DeadMG on this one, even more because it is an RTS.
 
sbi
I AM NOT PARTICIPATING! Had to get that off my chest.
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I was driving around the city yesterday.
 
@sbi We know :P
 
1:12 PM
I found meself a nice new flat.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Few people train to play games.
 
With epic Internet connectivity.
 
@CatPlusPlus new cardboard box?
 
I mean, a fuck load of stuff in StarCraft isn't intuitive at first glance. Doesn't mean players cannot learn.
 
@DeadMG Pffft, casuals.
 
1:12 PM
How steep we want that learning curve to be?
 
A cliff!
 
a learning sodding hill :D
 
you should only introduce required learning for necessary gameplay features
 
Because steeper means more complex and potentially non intuitive (at first) gameplay features.
 
@DeadMG Like ship - planet interactions ^^
 
1:13 PM
Complexity is valued, but game design elements need to be introduced progressively. Violent approaches like the one from EVE Online suck. (like much of their codebase)
 
@ScarletAmaranth Is completely not a necessary gameplay feature at all.
 
You know, some maps could have no planets.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I don't think we should ever aim to make non-intuitive gameplay features
 
Perhaps a topic change to "The word balance for 'EPIC' is currently overdrawn. New credit will be due: Monday June 25th of 2012"
 
So beginners wouldn't have to worry about gravity at first.
 
1:13 PM
I don't even see why you want to add it. There's no gameplay incentive whatsoever.
 
@DeadMG It's not a realistic proposition either, if you have a starship, then you have attitude control.
 
If the learning curve is steep, we should take measures to make it simpler, if anything
 
@DeadMG It raises the skill ceiling.
 
@EtiennedeMartel What evidence do you have for that?
maybe it will lower the skill ceiling by dominating other mechanics
 
@DomagojPandža agreed, though it can abused of course
 
1:14 PM
I was thinking that there should be a cube skymap with 3d objects, such as a huge sun
 
@DeadMG Harr harr, you're quite a derp man :) As I've said earlier, I don't mind using all your basic concepts for the game but it would be appreciated if you weren't a terminator about stuff :)
 
@DeadMG Because good players can use gravity to their advantage, while less skilled ones will just try to avoid gravity wells because they can't use them very well.
 
it would always be static though, so you could never fly to it, for example
 
@EtiennedeMartel Or, everyone uses gravity to his advantage and simply ignores other mechanics because it's such a bigadvantage.
 
@DeadMG That just means we have to tweak it.
 
1:15 PM
@DeadMG What evidence you have for that ?
 
And even then, it would make for interesting mechanics.
 
But, wait a bit. Gravity is present. But starships counteract gravity, just like a ship counteracts forces delivered by the sea with an anchor.
 
@EtiennedeMartel But there's no reason to believe that there is a desirable level where it works in our favour.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Yarr yarr, thanks :P
 
@DeadMG the only way we can know that for sure is to try it
 
1:16 PM
@DeadMG How unscientific.
 
there are some designs and mechanics which are just plain broken and no amount of tweaking can fix them.
 
Wait, I'm confused.. I was thinking this was a strategy game
 
One of the biggest challenges with this is to balance it
 
How does gravity come into effect?
 
@DeadMG Wait, now you're just prejudiced against the idea.
 
1:16 PM
It cannot come into effect unless it's Angry Birds Space.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I love you, will you merry me ?
 
@ScarletAmaranth Merry Angstmas.
 
If anything, gravity prevents you from "building" near it
 
People, when wind is blowing, do you allow it to offset your position?
 
@DomagojPandža In real life :D ? no :D
 
1:17 PM
I'd assume a starship would have a mean to counter gravity.
 
@EtiennedeMartel There's no positive reason to introduce it, and it adds technical complexity and takes implementation time and can introduce bugs, and it could have a negative effect.
we should have the minimum number of mechanics, not the maximum.
 
Spaceships wouldn't go far if they couldn't resist gravity.
 
@DeadMG Why are there no positive reasons?
 
@DeadMG Every design feature could introduce all those things ...
 
@CatPlusPlus THIS.
 
1:18 PM
If this was a space piloting game, then yes, gravity would be a fun mechanic. but as an RTS, ships just need to go around planets and compensate for any gravity for us
 
It's like your only argument is "I don't like it, so fuck it"
 
Escape velocities and all that.
 
Maybe you could build structures in orbit around a planet, and they'd be moving to stay in orbit
 
I still don't know what's happening, but okay.
 
@EtiennedeMartel There are none because nobody has suggested any that might actually work out in practice.
more games are broken because they introduce too many mechanics than too few
 
1:19 PM
though I agree that gravity shouldn't overly complicate things
 
Tangential movement to "defeat" gravity is not a solution for a starship in the future with pew pew l4z0rs. They have engines which can counteract gravitational fields to prevent death and shit. It's a logical design decision of every aspiring starship engineer.
 
@DeadMG I have actually suggested some that might work out in practice.
 
@Neil Train Anchoring, buy control tower...
 
@DeadMG We're brainstorming and you're shooting down our ideas before they're even complete.
 
@ScarletAmaranth Really? I didn't see any.
 
1:19 PM
@Neil they would just orbit the planet, or be geo-stationary
 
And this is an RTS. Imagine having 500 units and they are all being sucked up by a planet.
 
Being geo-stationary is orbiting, too.
 
Unless we wanted to simulate HUGE time spans, the planets need not move. Perhaps asteroid patches could
 
I think that should be in a successive phase though
 
@DeadMG Because you didn't want to, you have discarded it because "people would think it's stupid" :)
 
1:20 PM
It's not vital to the game, is it?
 
@DomagojPandža If they can't resist the suck, then it means they're crappy ships.
 
Ignore gravity * starts floating*
 
@EtiennedeMartel If you change the idea, then there's no reason not to reconsider it. I'm not biased against it, it's just a bad idea in it's current form, or the previously proposed form (actual gravity).
 
" The Suck "
 
Anyway, screw planets. Gravity anomalies! Wormholes, black holes, other holes.
 
1:20 PM
@CatPlusPlus Your mom's holes.
 
I like the wormhole idea
 
@CatPlusPlus I was getting more at the not moving side of things, but yeah
 
Cat++ has a good point, there could be a random wormhole event which sucks some of your isolated units
 
@Neil Hmm, WC3 had way gates. I still don't know if that was a good idea.
 
and drops them elsewhere on the map.
 
1:21 PM
@DomagojPandža Random is the death knell of an RTS game.
 
@DomagojPandža Discarded by DeadMG in our conversation :)
 
@DeadMG Alright, I'll think about something.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Wormholes should either be static or they could be created by a player, but they must be two-way and it must require a big investment of resources to create
 
Random is fun.
 
Or stationary wormholes which can introduce tactical points for control.
 
1:21 PM
@DeadMG Agreed. We want predictability.
 
You can't risk someone stumbling into your backyard.
 
Otherwise it's just players furiously putting together perfect game plans and shit.
 
Homeworld had hyperjump for long range travel. Could be interesting, no?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Honestly, simple speed boost in vicinity of planets could be fairly viable, easy to implement and easy to show in UI.
 
@CatPlusPlus That's where "The other players" come in.
no battle plan survives contact with the enemy
 
1:22 PM
Random is risky for an RTS. It's all about planning, and for the computer to come along and fuck you over sucks ass.
 
@DomagojPandža My point. Though are we going to let them be part of the map, as it were, or can they be created?
 
@EtiennedeMartel THE CAPACITOR IS EMPTY.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Been considering it.
 
@ScarletAmaranth That could be a good way to implement a "defender's advantage".
 
@Neil In the current design, you construct your own to move the slowest ships around.
else the really slow ships would be just too slow to get around anywhere
 
1:23 PM
So, warp gates or what?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Yeah, also, something to fight for on the map, but resources can do that too naturally.
 
@DeadMG I think if we did some sort of campaign, wormholes shouldn't initially exist
We can compensate by making smaller maps initially
 
Jump bridges. Fast, volatile ships you send forward, that bigger ships can lock onto and jump there.
 
As we are wanting short games, resource gathering shouldn't feature that heavily
 
I'm totally not ripping any other game here.
 
1:24 PM
@CatPlusPlus like
 
@CatPlusPlus Cynosaural fields. :Đ
 
@CatPlusPlus Right. The thing is that they're not particularly strong. But of course, you would have to find them in intersolar space if you wanted to destroy them.
 
It's a good idea, because then the enemy could destroy those to stop you.
 
tactically positioning them would be very important
 
@DeadMG Yes.
 
1:24 PM
We going to have a fog of war?
 
Do we have probes (small, unarmed units with a large sight range)?
 
and intersolar space is a giant pile of empty
 
Fast and small and really vulnerable.
 
Is that going to work like traditional games?
 
@EtiennedeMartel As of right now, not really. But it's intended that fighters should be pretty cheap for most of the game.
 
1:25 PM
Hello.
 
Space of war.
 
@Neil Read the design doc for such basic questions.
 
@Neil Of course.
 
There's design doc?
 
@ScarletAmaranth :(
 
Woah, serious business.
 
do I need to link to it yet again
@EtiennedeMartel nope
 
@Neil That was meant to mean no offense o_O Just sayin' :)
 
@EtiennedeMartel FIXED
 
@thecoshman See, not the only one.
 
Oh. I'm soooo late.
 
Also, I might capture some time over the weekend to quickly prototype something on the Windows platform, to get the general feel for it.
Just for reference, DX based, not for further development.
 
though I did think of that one and put a link to the Google docs in the sync.in version
 
Radek y u cannot edit.
 
So, you're going to contribute a lot to Springbok to use it as a foundation, RIGHT? xD
 
1:26 PM
fog of war is going to be difficult to implement
 
@RadekSlupik y u no read it first
 
@CatPlusPlus We would if it was production ready.
 
@CatPlusPlus that's what I want :D
 
@Neil Localized nebula-like volumes?
 
(That means no)
 
1:27 PM
@thecoshman I'm doing that.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Because your own framework will be production ready.
 
It isn't like in traditional strategy games where it's black where you haven't explored. In space you can technically see a long ranges
 
@CatPlusPlus Yes. In my head. Where unicorns roam free.
 
Maybe you could have sensor jammers whose purpose is to block out any visual data you could get froma long distance
 
@RadekSlupik send me your email and I can add you to edit list
 
1:28 PM
@DomagojPandža Then a lot of them..
 
Fog of war - twist on the fact c is constant and finite.
 
I like the idea that perhaps your vision of the field is what the computer is showing, not what is actually happening
 
@Neil Actually, it pretty much is like that.
 
@thecoshman daknok@gmail.com
 
That means computer, enhanced labels and so forth
 
1:28 PM
You don't see until you get there and when you leave, you see only the "old image"
 
I think we should have "Frog of war" instead of fog of war.
 
I don't see a reason to deviate from the traditional FoW model.
 
@RadekSlupik added
 
Why do you prefer silly include guards to pragma once?
 
@thecoshman cool
 
1:29 PM
Guaranteed to work, but I'm game with #pragma once
 
@CatPlusPlus Because they are the standardiest standard :)
 
Compilers that don't support #pragma once might as well not exist.
 
@CatPlusPlus why you prefer silly pragma once over include guards?
 
@DomagojPandža Right, I think whatever the computer thinks is there should be shown as blueprint wireframe or something
 
Simplicity baby!
 
1:30 PM
Less boilerplate, less room for mistakes.
 
Then once it's confirmed, it looks real
 
user784668
Why you all prefer silly headers to real modules?
 
Woa, woa. There was a huuuuge change in the docs.
 
Who just deleted the entire document lol.
 
And I think sensor jammers are vital to fog of war
 
1:30 PM
I did
 
Hey wtf happened.
Everthing's fucked up now.
 
most of it was silly chat and discussion
 
so I went through all of it and summarized the salient points
 
The design document needs to be pure, distilled.
 
user784668
1:31 PM
lol
 
Why the spaces for indentation?
 
dunno, I pushed tab
 
@DeadMG not cool dude
 
user784668
@RadekSlupik Because they're not tabs.
 
lol
 
1:31 PM
@Fanael Headers are pretty.
 
@thecoshman 1. The document needed replacing. 2. I made sure I got everything that was relevant.
 
So long as you're actually summarizing and not purging the document of ideas that you don't agree with
 
user784668
And y u guys can't just use GCC?
 
GCC is for pussies. We compile by hand.
 
eh, there was actually not an awful lot in the original document- just a bunch of sync.in discussion, and most of the discussion else was here
I almost entirely added content.
 
1:32 PM
@DeadMG I'm still going to put in the link to the capture of sync.in I had
 
@DomagojPandža Home grown programs. Back in the ol' days when you had to shift bits
 
Guys, I wrote a programming in Notepad, where's the Build button?
 
@DomagojPandža Trolling level: Expert
 
@DomagojPandža Alt + F4
 
why, you guys love your colons
 
1:34 PM
@Neil It just disappeared, I forgot to place a system("PAUSE") at the end :(
 
@thecoshman colons::love();
 
@DomagojPandža Now don't go making me feel bad. I might actually.
 
@Fanael On Windows?
 
Can I get editing rights on that doc?
 
user784668
@DeadMG On Windows.
 
1:35 PM
@Fanael Why not Doors?
 
the last time I tried that, it ended very badly.
 
MSVC11 is ridiculous, not even funny.
 
@EtiennedeMartel what's your email
 
MSVC 2012 RC is ok ;0
 
MSVC11 can suck the dicks shaped like 1s after it.
 
user784668
1:36 PM
@ScarletAmaranth Flagged as unfunny.
 
GCC works fine on Windows.
And actually supports C++11.
 
@thecoshman edemartel at gmail
 
alright
who are you Funkey45?
 
You know what's funny, the version of MSVC++ in 2012RC corresponds with C++11.
 
1:38 PM
cause please, dear God, just stop typing and screwing things up.
 
@thecoshman I'll stop trolling.
 
@EtiennedeMartel .com?
 
It's funny to screw things up when someone else is editing, so no can do @DeadMG :)
 
@thecoshman Yes
 
1:38 PM
I just can't stand the abuse of hyphens. :P
 
@ScarletAmaranth The only thing that would happen is I would host the document somewhere else where you can't mutate it.
 
@thecoshman Could you erase my old e-mail and add my g-mail account? For some reason I can't do any editing this way.
 
@DeadMG Don't sweat it, I edited 1 line of text, rofl.
 
@Neil sure, what is it
@RadekSlupik blame my keyboard
 
so we're up to six of us
 
1:40 PM
@thecoshman Wrote you.
 
Domagoj, DeadMG, Scarlet, thecoshman, Radek, and Etienne
anybody else up for joining?
 
@Neil what was your old one, want to clean up the list
 
right
I also want to discuss the concurrency library
 
@thecoshman done
 
IMO, TBB is the clear winning solution
 
1:42 PM
TBB is a go, we're not Windows-only.
 
it's way more productive than std::thread or boost::thread and cross-plat to boot, and doesn't require compiler support
 
Also, the less people work on the design doc, the better. I'll keep to the tech stuff.
 
TBB is made of win.
 
I'll edit some design stuff should DeadMG not terminator me over it, so I want to keep the edit privilege if that's what you mean by saying "the less ppl work on design doc. the better".
 
Has anyone bought the "Overview of the New C++ (C++11) - Scott Meyers" pdf?
 
1:44 PM
One thing I'd like for to come out of this is to appropriately approach core engine design, make it reusable and able to stand on its own. That way, we can offer it as open source, give back to the community we often leech from.
 
What will we use to create the game window on Linux?
 
Tears.
 
Delicious tears.
 
good shout about adding Lua to the external lib list
 
1:45 PM
Also, game not open?
 
@DomagojPandža I agree. If we're going to do it that way, we need to keep the game logic and the game engine well separated
 
Open sourcing it would be cool.
 
hmmm
 
Does that mean raw Lua or the Luabind wrapper?
 
I'm not particularly cool with open sourcing it
 
1:46 PM
We'll cross the licensing bridge when we get there.
 
ultimately, it's my time and the time of the creators; I'd only open-source it when I'm convinced that people will no longer pay for the prebuilt version :P
 
@EtiennedeMartel "if we get there" FTFY
 
@EtiennedeMartel Probably raw Lua. The last time I looked into Luabind and LuaPlus, they wouldn't even build.
 
@DeadMG we're not going to be anywhere near something people would pay for for a while
 
1:46 PM
Hmm.
 
@Neil "We"? don't see you on the team list.
 
@DeadMG I can't edit the document. :(
 
am I on the list?
 
but of course, the question about whether to open source or not is only relevant when we are at that point.
 
@Neil It can be a free to play while being closed source.
 
1:47 PM
On an organisational note, you know Bitbucket introduced Teams a while ago?
 
oy, thecoshman, that is not a design doc,
 
@TonyTheLion If you're asking that question, probably not.
 
Can people please put their names here if not the same as their Lounge names
 
we need bitbucket, there is some privacy involved.
 
@TonyTheLion Do you want to join?
 
1:47 PM
Only BB private repos with more than 5 users are paid.
 
If a function is return an int, is it beneficial to return a const copy rather than a non-const copy? I am trying to find a reference in the C++ FAQ to support return a const copy over a non-const copy of an int.
 
user784668
D'oh.
 
user784668
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Q: Why is for(i=0; i != limit; ++i) better than for(i=0; i<limit; i++)?

ArunI read somewhere that it is better to use != operator rather than < operator and it is better to use pre-increment operator than to use post-increment operator. I can understand that the pre-increment avoids the extra step of temporary object creation, but how is != operator better than < ...

 
do you need an email?
 
1:48 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I don't have a big preference in any case
 
user784668
Why the fuck it has 8 upvotes?
 
@0A0D Don't return const values.
 
Last thing we need is big opinions on a team of programmers with big egos
 
@CatPlusPlus If you outgrow BB, I could potentially host a repo if it's not a giant load
 
@tony missed it
 
1:48 PM
Maybe we should add a list of C++11 features we cannot use because of VS? Not everybody uses VS.
 
@Fanael because it's SO
 
@Fanael because purist know the 'right' answer and can't wait for it to be written by purist who actually know how to :)
 
was it @gmail.com
 
@thecoshman look at the history
 
C++11 needs to be a part of it. That's part of the fun.
 
1:49 PM
@CatPlusPlus Is it ignored by the compiler?
 
ALL OF IT.
 
@0A0D It's mostly useless.
 
@RadekSlupik Might be using GCC on Windows, if I can find an actual working build and usable IDE.
 
@TonyTheLion I can't you deleted it and i'm too low rep
 
we should keep a list of our emails in the design doc
it's private, right?
 
user784668
1:49 PM
It should really be for(int i : range(0, foo)).
 
@DeadMG nope, it's public with link
 
Anyone with a link can view it.
 
quick
 
got it
 
:4123774 Saved! Kidding..
 
1:50 PM
well, we should really change that then
 
:4123774 You know bots are not thwarted by replacing . by 'dot', right?
 
you don't need to save it :P
 
Gosh my English sucks today.
 
@CatPlusPlus no I didn't know
 
Get mine as well, quickly.
 
1:50 PM
done
 
it's now private
 
I'd like to help, too, if I can.
 
only those who have got access permission can see it
@CatPlusPlus email
 
Someone should go and make a team in Bitbucket.
 
@thecoshman You got my mail, right ?
 
1:51 PM
Build system stuff or something.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Don't we have to pay for >5 users?
 
Repo hosting if needed.
 
I can probably contribute a bit as well
 
@thecoshman piotrlegnica@piotrl.pl
 
What about Beanstalk (not sure if it does private repos though, I'll look it up)?
 
1:51 PM
And can host stuff
 
@CatPlusPlus got it
 
My email is public because I'm not a sissy.
 
@DeadMG That is an excellent question.
 
Oh damn Beanstalk isn't free at all.
 
tony
edit your email into the Team table
 
1:52 PM
ScarletAmaranth
Code monkey, game designer wannabe. ahahah :Đ
 
and you too cosh
 
Oh, great, I've disabled Docs on my domain.
 
cjhockey@gmail.com
 
I'm stupid.
2
 
@DomagojPandža ^^ I'm self critic :D
 
Finding GApps admin panel is so hard.
 
@TonyTheLion Tony, add your email to the Team table
tis a private doc so you're safe
 
Code monkey, that funky monkey
 
Everyone on the Internet already knows your emails anyway.
 
@DeadMG ok done
@CatPlusPlus no they don't
 
1:55 PM
When I proposed the idea, I wasn't expecting this reaction at all, not really. I expected something along the lines of a bacon pun in disguise of a topic change.
 
right
 
I just created it half hour ago
 
@CatPlusPlus That's my attitude as well
 
now we're up to nine people
 
It's going to be fun to manage, fo' sho'.
 
1:55 PM
@TonyTheLion And even if, why do you care?
 
Gitorious appears to be free, we can also install it on a private server
 
@Collin Does it support Hg? :P
 
It's nice to see the bacon is strong with you.
 
@DomagojPandža Yeah, also I didn't expect we would have some basic design down already (munched dead's game)
 
@CatPlusPlus spam
 
1:56 PM
@DeadMG oh crap I forgot about hg
 
after this, we go make language implementation :P
 
facepalm
 
@TonyTheLion Goes into spam folder, never to be seen again.
 
Work has me thinking in git
 
@CatPlusPlus I can't handle your way of thinking, stop it :P
 
1:57 PM
lol
 
Can we has access to design doc?
 
btw, Cat, summarize your role in team briefly?
 
I want readz.
 
@DomagojPandža You're not already on the access list?
 
If anyone has .edu email, BB has unlimited accounts for those.
Dunno if that applies to teams, but probably.
 
1:58 PM
Can someone relink it, Google seems to think I need to require access or something.
 
I have a .ac.uk email address
 
@CatPlusPlus I still have mine, I can give it a shot
 
who's at double buffer?
 
@DomagojPandža You have to go to your email and accept the invite I posted you
@thecoshman Domagoj
 
my uni is retarded so they have schoolname.sk ... fuck dat shit.
 
1:59 PM
Well, I don't know how it works, exactly. They'll probably approve it if you link to the uni home page or something.
I don't use that, 'cause I don't want to have my uni email as primary.
 
@DomagojPandža @Collin added you guys
 

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