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10:00 AM
@sehe from the sounds of it, he needs a all the neurons he can get :P
 
sbi
There was a bunch of school kids in my subway car for a few stops today. Asks this one girl, sitting opposite of me and scanning an ad above my head, "what does wee-pon mean?" The boys on my side of the car, baffled, but too lazy to turn around and crane their necks, ask for context. Apparently the ad was about a bilingual (German/English) school. The girl read "Education is a powerful wee-pon to wield."
I sank my face into my (English!) book, trying to suppress laughter. I shouldn't have bothered, since the boys beside me more or less collapsed on the car's floor.
 
I mean really, wee-pon :D ?
 
Ahahahah, wee-pon!
 
wow :D
 
sbi
@ScarletAmaranth Well, she did pronounce it very German, but, yeah, it sounded like "wee" and "pon". I mean, she pronounce the "ea" as in "tea".
 
10:03 AM
@sbi was she asking in German what the English word meant
 
sbi
@thecoshman Yep. "Was bedeutet wieponn?"
 
@sbi to be fair, it is pronounced like 'weppon' it's a stupid spelling :P
 
Education is a powerful weapon to wield. Knowledge is a powerful weapon to wield. Education is just a lousy blacksmith.
 
@DomagojPandža trying to see what you did there...
 
sbi
@thecoshman Ah, that I have little problem with. English pronunciation and orthography follows a thousand rivaling rules. But to think that someone who, as the boys later said, had 6 years of English cannot translate that sentence, is, especially in face of its meaning, quite hilarious.
 
10:05 AM
Give it time to sink in. :Đ
 
You can hardly blame her. They even taught me, an english mother tongue, in grade school that "ea" makes an "eee" sound.
 
I'm sorry but your marketing department fails as soon as you have an add saying "Wee-pon".
 
Though in my experience, there are exceptions to everything, even exceptions to exceptions.
 
Every time I hear the word exception, the next word in my mind is throw. :$
 
sbi
@Neil As I said, I am not blaming her for not being able to pronounce it properly — although it is lame to not to know such a common word. "But to think that someone who, as the boys later said, had 6 years of English cannot translate that sentence, is, especially in face of its meaning, quite hilarious."
@DomagojPandža std::exception up("urgh!"); throw up;
 
10:09 AM
@sbi I've been speaking Italian every day for about 5 years straight and I still make plenty of mistakes
As my wife, who speaks english very well but is not mother tongue told me once, english is a very easy language to learn but very difficult to master
 
I find that all many things are easier as my wife
 
@sehe Ok, that can be understood in a very very bad way.
 
@ScarletAmaranth Enlighten me. But spare any puns for Friday
 
@sehe Is english your mother tongue? Just curious
 
sbi
@Neil That is true. Nevertheless, "weapon" very likely is a word that you will learn within the first one or two years of learning English, and it's one you encounter quite often, in news and songs.
 
10:12 AM
@Neil Take a wild guess, or were we still doing rhetorics?
@sbi Whatever you do, DON'T MENTION THE WEAPONS WAR!!!
 
sbi
@Neil His native language is that of the team which lost so badly yesterday. :b
 
@sbi Germans didn't win? :(
I was pulling for them
 
@sbi I care so much about football, I can narrow that down to, an EU team
 
@sehe Predicate one (the important one) - This is not meant in any offensive way! Explanation: As far as my knowledge goes, when you call a woman easy, let's just say her morality is questionable! :)
 
12 hours ago, by sehe
Hehe. Kick me. It won't hurt. We had a meeting at my place (music selection for our choir) and they mentioned football. I just switched on the tele to see whether there was news. Made some smart remark (don't remember). Turned out the match hadn't even started yet.
Looked less knowledgeable about football since then (**)
 
10:14 AM
@sbi There are so many common words, that while you'd think it would be learned within the first two years, you still find common words you don't know
I had to ask my wife the other day how to say window shutters in italian
 
Good thing I didn't call anyone _easy_, then.
Sigh of relief.
 
sbi
@Neil He isn't a German.
 
@sbi Yet.
 
sbi
@sehe What, are you applying?
 
@sehe Your english is very good, in fact I would not have guessed. I just asked because otherwise you probably would have known the other definition of easy. :P
When a woman is easy, lets say she's easily overcome? If you ask her upstairs, she rarely refuses? Get my meaning?
 
10:16 AM
If you ask her upstairs, she rarely refuses? :D :D :D
 
@Neil I do. It's just irrelevant in the context of that sentence.
 
@sehe It was more of a "that's what she said" moment than anything else.
 
@sehe It's relevant in a context saying: "Many things are easier than my wife man ..." :)
 
But lets say you dance the fire of sexual ambiguity calling your wife easy.
 
Shit. I've always been asking her in the kitchen. And the living room. The garden. The shed. I should have known to ask her upstairs...
Thanks for a great tip. I'll let you know how things work out
@ScarletAmaranth Good thing there was no context saying that, until you typed it there.
 
10:19 AM
@sehe You do that. I don't need to know too many details though
 
@sehe Oooh, i though it was an English fail "easier than / as ... " MEA MAXIMA CULPA!
@sehe Je suis desole. Ich bin ein Vollidiot. Sorry.
 
No. I'm not calling her easy. I'm saying she's so good, she's basically a pro [<-- hehehe] - everything is easier for her.
Nothing too complicated for a C++ programmer, IMO.
 
Lets do an experiment. Only people who are not english mothertongues can answer. I'm going to write a series of sentences and I want you guys to tell me which can be interpreted in a sexual manner:
1) She loves cake.
 
@ScarletAmaranth Missing some diacritics. Aber, Entschuldigung akzeptiert.
 
2) He put on his safety hat.
 
10:21 AM
@sehe Vielen Dank :)
 
@Neil everything can be interpreted in a sexual manner
 
@Neil You're asking in the lounge? That's silly. The answer is always YES
 
@thecoshman you could stretch everything into a sexual manner, true, but sometimes you have to stretch
 
@Neil said the duchess to the vicar
 
@Neil Most often, I find it gets better when that happens <whistle/>
 
sbi
10:22 AM
Warum mühen wir uns hier überhaupt mit Englisch ab, wo wir doch genauso gut deutsch schreiben können? Bis auf ein paar wenige Versager sprechen doch hier sowieso alle mehr oder weniger gut Deutsch.
 
@Neil She loves cake ? That has some "ulterior meaning" ?
 
Yeah, I think I'm no longer able to say things which can't be interpreted as sexual in this moment.
 
@sbi Pleeeease, I don't have even Slovakian (native language) keyboard, not to mention any other language sets with required diacritics :)
@Neil What meaning would that be ?
 
@sbi Versager - nicht gerade das ueblichstigste Wort, denke ich so?
 
@ScarletAmaranth That's a stretch, admit it. What could cake possibly mean?
 
10:23 AM
@Neil Well, I'm not going to elaborate on that because I'd end up thinking stuff I don't want to end up thinking :P
 
sbi
@ScarletAmaranth Kein Problem. Dann scheibst Du halt "ae", "oe", "ue" und "ss" (statt "äöüß").
 
@sbi Es würde bedeuten, werden nur zu sprechen Deutsch, so dass diejenigen, die nicht ignoriert werden würde. soweit ich weiß, jeder hier Englisch spricht, bin ich noch jemanden, der nicht zumindest ein grundlegendes Verständnis zu sehen
 
sbi
@sehe Ooch, ohrfeigen macht natürlich besonders dann Spaß, wenn es nur die Umstehenden bemerken, nicht aber die Geohrfeigten.
 
coffee time :D
 
May 15 at 20:24, by R. Martinho Fernandes
But cake is so delicious and moist.
 
sbi
10:25 AM
@thecoshman That sounds exactly like the gibberish google translate would spit into your face. It makes no sense at all.
 
@sbi :)
 
@sehe That's a game song reference btw :) (Portal™)
 
@sbi lol, funny you say that, I was just trying hard to make sense of that, and it didn't make any
 
Yay! Ich liebe Google übersetzen.
 
@sbi It's actually worse than I'd expect from Google Translate. It probably has to do with the GIGO rule in software.
@Neil Pretty sure Google Translate will still be called Google Translate.
 
10:27 AM
lol
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion Well, I dunno, but it doesn't make any sense to me at all, and I'm a native German.
@sehe Ouch, the poor sod! :)
 
@sbi It would be mean to speak just German, as that would ignore those who don't. as far as I know, everyone here speaks English, I'm yet to see some one who doesn't have at least a basic grasp
 
look what I found :P
 
10:29 AM
Jonathan Coulton, the guy who wrote that song made an equally engaging song called Code Monkey.
 
sbi
Damn, I have a really hard time writing proper German here. For one, I always think of English sentences first, and then have to translate them into German, which makes it hard to not to sound awkward. But also, English capitalization rules are much easier, and I have to switch my brain up a gear to properly write in German. (Whereas orthography is much more consistent and thus simpler in German.)
 
@ScarletAmaranth why not!
 
@TonyTheLion I likey :D
 
I deleted it, I just remembered some people are at work
 
10:31 AM
I find I have difficulty speaking in english if a long time passes that I don't speak it
 
@ScarletAmaranth Pretty win. I stayed all the way to 2'20'' even though I'm trying to do work
 
it's a bit NSFW
 
@TonyTheLion it's mainland EU SFW, English/Irish NSFW :P
 
@TonyTheLion So Link [NSFW] to it :)
 
sbi
@thecoshman OMG. For starters, "mean" has (at least) two, ahem, meanings in English, which are to be translated into (at least) two different German words. Your sentence uses the wrong one, and that alone renders it useless. And then add all the other bloopers...
 
10:32 AM
lulz
 
@sbi yeah, I just say the back-lation of it :P
 
@thecoshman You're in denial or you just don't notice. Or you are to busy grabbing pitchforks and shouting trolls whenever it happens :)
 
sbi
@thecoshman What?
 
@sbi He "saw" (sic) the reverse translation of it...
 
@sbi I just saw the translation back to English of the translation that Google gave me
 
sbi
10:35 AM
@thecoshman saw != say
 
@sehe damn for-ners! deh tucker jewbs!
@sbi I know words
 
Too many, I'd wager
 
now it's stared, I'm starting to think I made a mistake
 
OMFG
Tell me you do that shit on purpose.
 
@thecoshman *starred
 
sbi
10:36 AM
Someone once made an art project out of having bablefish translate back and forth well-known pieces of prose. You just translate it back and forth until the translation engine approaches an equilibrium. The outcome is truly hilarious.
 
sbi
@sehe No. He's a natural. :-/
 
lol
@sbi hahah, that sound like a good laugh
 
@sbi I saw a similar thing. Someone took an image, and let Google search for similar images, took the first result and repeated. Then made a video of all the images. It was a mind rush watching it
 
@sbi translationparty.com does that
it's good fun :)
 
10:38 AM
@sehe would you believe me if I said yes?
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion I have seen what this did to Goethe's Erlkönig.
 
@jalf :(
 
sbi
@jalf OMG! Is this hardwired to Japanese?
 
@sbi yeah
 
hard-coded = (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
 
sbi
10:40 AM
@jalf Too bad. But still, it's hilarious!
 
@sbi lol, it gives up with it :D
 
dafuq?
 
sbi
Well, @jalf, this room currently has about half a dozen active users, which makes for probably for two 8hr days of annihilated work. One day you will have to pay a lot of money for dropping this link!
 
10:44 AM
Muse tickets bought, check. :)
 
@KonradRudolph Good man.
 
sbi
2 mins ago, by sbi
Haha: http://translationparty.com/#10304410
 
lucky man
 
@sbi They need to implement some cycle detection there
 
sbi
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Incorrect conversion is really scary computer sucks! [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq] [c++-fuq]
 
10:45 AM
well, I discovered a new way to cock up my future
 
huh, in England, it's why did the chicken cross the road
 
now that we just got over tropes, we have translationparty.com
2
 
prepare for the wrong exam and enter the exam hall with hardly any idea whatsoever about the subject you're being examined on
 
damnit
 
> Translation Party is hiring, you know.
^ How? They need more people to not implement cycle detection ?!
 
10:45 AM
 
sbi
@sehe "Yes, I know it repeated a set of 4."
 
@sehe to remove the cycle
 
My favorite muse song. The video is well done too.
 
@TonyTheLion No thanks
 
@Neil Mine too, hands down. Incredibly complex, a real epic.
 
10:47 AM
My favoriete Muse song has to be Uprising
epic :)
 
@Neil I thought all that flesh meat was a bit rare
Also, death by 240p
 
@sehe Too NSFW?
 
@Neil Although the Exogenesis symphony at the end of The Resistance also wasn’t half bad.
 
@Neil No, but "well done" would require more cooking
 
@KonradRudolph Link?
 
10:48 AM
Hmm
 
@sehe (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
 
Muse are overrated
 
agree
 
@thecoshman Blasphemy!
 
their lead singer is awful, it's terrible
 
your mum is overrated.
 
@DeadMG indeed he is
 
@DeadMG You must be new here
technically, he’s just briliiant
 
no, he's just puppy, being puppy
 
10:50 AM
@KonradRudolph I am most assuredly not new here.
 
if I had the power to bin stuff ¬_¬
 
not many singers can pull of his falsetto
 
@KonradRudolph A pity that most of the time, his falsetto just makes things sound a lot worse.
 
@KonradRudolph how is breathing into the mic all the time technically brilliant?
 
10:51 AM
this is what I image @DeadMG to be like...
 
Muse isn't for everyone I guess. He's got a particular singing style
 
@DeadMG well, I don’t agree that it does …
 
I happen to like it though.
 
@Neil I can record my self breathing into a mic for you if you want
 
@thecoshman That's what I always wanted to hear!
 
10:54 AM
oh god.
 
@thecoshman *myself
 
ok, lunch
 
my new fav image :D
 
Repost
 
10:58 AM
I noticed. Though it seems you have a whole book of fucks to give.
 
@sehe damn you!
 
Hah, now that it's starred, you can't use that image any longer.
 
@Neil The Book of Fuck?
 
Not even natational copulations are offered.
 
@jalf Fuck agenda
 
11:00 AM
@Neil So, poetry bundle
 
@sehe Yeah, basically
<lunchtime>
 
what's the equilibrium?
oh, when it's the same translated and back
 
Try "Facebook":
> Equilibrium found! You should move to Japan!
 
sbi
I just learned that 90% of all cells in the human body is bacteria. Impressive.
 
11:05 AM
@sbi Good thing you're an ape ;)
 
@sbi Sounds pretty fishy to me. What's the source?
 
Wouldn't surprise me. Bacteria cells are a lot smaller, afaik. So there's room for lots of them
 
room in where?
 
@DeadMG +1
 
the gut is basically the only place they exist naturally, afaik- human tissues should be entirely human cells
 
11:07 AM
@sbi You misspelled water.
 
Oh, but in real life, we're you bacteria of a Mice Colony
 
@DeadMG In fact, not like bacteria are so much smaller than human cells
 
@Neil That might make them 90% by the irrelevant cardinality measurement. Not by mass, which is the important biological measurement.
 
@DeadMG sbi said 90% of cells, not 90% of cell weight.
 
all biological comparisons are made by mass unless explicitly mentioned otherwise
because the other comparisons are meaningless
 
11:11 AM
@DeadMG Direct that to sbi.
 
@Neil Why? Doesn't sbi read this chat anyway?
 
@sehe Yes, though I don't think it was meant for sbi.
 
@DeadMG and in this case, it "otherwise" was explicitly mentioned
by saying 90% of all cells
 
oh
guess that was just my misinterpretation, then
guess I kinda assumed that it would be in the only metric that matters
 
anyway, I don't know how big the size/mass difference is between human and bacteria cells. I thought bacteria were a lot smaller, but according to @Neil, the difference isn't so great.
 
11:21 AM
@DeadMG Well apparently you're wrong! Or.. you're right and sbi is wrong!
 
We can all be wrong together!
 
well, it's pretty damn unlikely that the human body is 90% bacteria by mass
 
@DeadMG Depends on how you define bacteria I suppose.
 
user784668
@Neil I thought bacteria were already defined.
 
@Fanael Depends on how you define defined.
 
11:26 AM
@Neil ROFL
It depends
Who's Wright and who's Wong?
 
Freddie Wong?
 
user784668
WTF?
 
user784668
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Q: How to convert "true" to bool in C++?

DaneIt's possible to do it using if .. else but I'm wondering there might be a better way or maybe a function already exist in C++ for that.

 
A truly true question.
 
what's the simplest way to move a ofstream to the end of the file to start writing from there?
 
11:31 AM
@Neil It also depends on how you define "90", and "percent".
 
user784668
@TonyTheLion stream.seekp(0, std::ios_base::end)?
 
My rule of thumb is simply "use another API than iostream if you need to do something more complex than appending to a log file"
3
 
@Fanael You move to strike. It's ok. Someone had a booboo. The comments are plenty clear.
 
@sbi Hence "if", not "when".
 
File operations are always the most treacherous, best work around it by jalf's suggestion, a little housekeeping/planning at first saves lives.
And bytes.
 
11:34 AM
Boost.IO is good.
 
@jalf It, furthermore, depends on the definition of language, meaning, ...
@CatPlusPlus life is good
 
user784668
@sehe It depends how you define "it".
 
When your cat is trying to enter the display because it sees a projection of a 3D world on the other side, you know you're doing a good job.
 
Maximum recursion limit reached.
 
11:37 AM
It depends depends on the dependencies of it
It depends depends depends on the dependencies of the dependencies of it
...
10 mins ago, by sehe
It depends
@CatPlusPlus Oh that's good. Let me exceed it :)
@DomagojPandža Or you are stuck with the wrong cat
 
@Neil No, human cells are on average an order of magnitude bigger than bacterial cells
 
IBM Cells are on average multiple orders of magnitude bigger than human cells.
 
… and they don’t only live in the gut, they notably also live on the skin
 
Wiki wiki wah wah...
"I'm using Visual C++ 6.0 in Windows 7."
 
11:52 AM
lol
that must suck
 
Might as well compile with Notepad.
 
compile with Notepad?
 
By hand. :Đ
 
notepad != compiler
 
@DomagojPandža Calls for a Community-Awarded Necromancer badge
 
11:55 AM
sad but true
 
Love is overrated, all you need is a computer, a place to sleep, something to eat and a project which you want to succeed.
 
@DomagojPandža I like that :P
 
It even rhymes, shit's gangsta.
 
@TonyTheLion I'm so curious what's on partially obscured the panel in the back
@DomagojPandža It's leet
 
The red word is surely porn.
Or corn, but corn doesn't fit the pattern of love, sex and porn.
 

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