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12:06 AM
@Telkitty Not surprising--nominal voltage of most lithium ion cells is right around 3.65-3.7 volts.
 
Switching supplies have gotten so common and so minituarized that this will go away eventually
You can buy an IC that is a buck/boost with input range 2V-60V and will output 3V,5V, whatever reliably at any input voltage with same losses
 
has anyone used raspberry pi to control things ... like drones and toy cars?
 
And if you're me, you'd put a bunch of these charge pumps together and get 500v volts off muh USB
 
@Mikhail Not far from the truth, one of my projects uses piezo actuators so we boost 5V to 300
 
FYI, I did this with RECOM DC/DC converters
 
12:12 AM
The monolithic parts are nice for designs
But you can build a boost just a handful of discrete components (PWM, switching transistor, rectifying diode, inductance)
@Telkitty Define "control", a pi is just a computer...
 
Not sure, you'd need to get a pretty high frequency oscillator to pull off a charge pump.
 
If you mean embedded onto a drone, less likely, its pretty heavy and energy inneficient
@Mikhail ... You need a 100KHZ or so PWM controller, yes
But these controllers come with integrated switching frequency generation
 
Well the charge pumps I used were 50 MHz
At the end of the day just pay some Chinaman to do it.
 
If you need high current, this is possible, its one thing to boost, its another thing to boost AND provide power
 
@crasic pi outputs signal and remote controlled devices intake signal?
 
12:16 AM
Then, yes
 
Geebus, I can't beat the first boss in Dark Souls 3.
I have been trying for weeks, obviously not every day for too long, but still.
 
@crasic ...as long as what you're driving isn't very noise sensitive.
 
being a newbie is hard, I went into a chat and enquired about what components I need and how to assemble a RC controlled car from components so I could fit raspberry pi in, the conversation went like this:
Me: How to run?
Someone: It's easy, you need to keep both feet off ground. It's like walking, but faster and both feet off the ground at times.
Me: But I could barely walk, how to keep both feet off ground?
(silence)
 
@Telkitty The trick is to throw yourself at the ground...and miss.
 
you mean you need to face some sort of water body while doing that?
 
12:30 AM
@Telkitty No, ground.
 
@Telkitty They told you that because there is no turnkey solution, so it requires knowledge acquisiton
Electronics Design is like working with the worlds worst lego set
You see what parts are available, try to make them work together, find bugs, shrink the design, rinse repeat
 
well, pi3 model B has wifi and bluetooth
in theory, it only needs to 'hack' into the car control frequency
there are only a couple of commands RC car uses
and if you get a servo, it would make the process much easier
 
It would, but do you have the skills to integrate all of that into a system?
 
I have learnt that it would be easier with a no integrated car control system
 
Hardware control requires precise timing, especially for things like motors. If there is latency between moving your left wheel servo and right wheel servo, then the car will "shudder"
 
12:42 AM
which usually is much more expensive
 
This means that an application hosted on an OS is likely going to not be up to snuff
 
eye to brain has delay
so is eye to limbs
most components have reaction time
 
And your brain exists in order to model the universe and compensate for those changes, you smart enough to design that system?
 
first step is learn to WALK
 
At this point you haven't been born yet, most people start by crawling ;)
 
 
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2:04 AM
@crasic My experience is that the expertise is hard to find, unlike legos. For example, I had to make a 50v +/- source at a low ma to control a liquid crystal. There was a ton of circuit required so that when we turned it on, 0v on the micro-controller would actually cause 0 v on the 0v over the load. This was one op-amp!!!!
 
@sehe the yak fork bombed me
 
2:15 AM
@LucDanton Prefer random relativistic motion
 
from my perspective that never works
 
@Mikhail All motion is relativistic (to the right observer).
 
also a social construct
 
@Mikhail Not all motion is a social construct. Some motions are decidedly anti-social.
 
2:30 AM
The Sokal affair, also called the Sokal hoax, was a scholarly publishing hoax perpetrated by Alan Sokal, a physics professor at New York University and University College London. In 1996, Sokal submitted an article to Social Text, an academic journal of postmodern cultural studies. The submission was an experiment to test the journal's intellectual rigor and, specifically, to investigate whether "a leading North American journal of cultural studies – whose editorial collective includes such luminaries as Fredric Jameson and Andrew Ross – [would] publish an article liberally salted with nonsense...
It proposed that quantum gravity is a social and linguistic construct.
 
is it good practise ti always use curly braces around array member definitions
 
@CoderCat idk, what does Resharper/clang say?
 
im using onlineGDB
which is really GCC
 
Go get yourself a real compiler/IDE?
 
k
 
2:34 AM
So, I did a TA-ed a few years ago where students had to implement AES encrypt/decrypt, the only guys that got it right used an iDE.
 
3:00 AM
hi
 
3:43 AM
@Nooble Hello.
 
what are the useful compiler options again
-wall is one
 
-O3, it funrolls your loops!
-ffast-math, makes your code faster
-fpermissive is also great because nobody is sure what it does
 
Type those optimization flags faster with -Ofast!
 
also don't forget to fomit the frame pointer on older gcc versions
 
also vomit the vrame pointer
 
3:53 AM
a baby bird that I have rescued from side of the road yesterday, then put inside a large grass area nearby so it wouldn't get run over by a car or caught by a dog
 
tldr: kitty ate a birdy in grassy before any doge could
 
~_~
<- domesticated kitty, wouldn't eat raw bird
 
clearly you haven't had a domesticated cat
 
hahaha nice one
 
4:29 AM
Fuck, my VB .Net plugin + IPC isn't hitting the performance target. The DLL doesn't have any AVX instructions. Who would have thought?
 
I can't hit any targets trying to remember all these acronyms
 
Better keep up, VB .NET is going to be the next big thing!
 
As long as this book is still for sale at my local electronics shop, I am willing to believe
 
gotta prime that message pump
 
5:05 AM
So unlike my Haswell box, the PTI overhead on my Skylake X box is barely noticeable.
 
5:26 AM
yey old windows ftw
how come some programs dont have a main function yet run just fine
custom compiler?
more specifically, windows source code
the formatting also looks different. It is definetley C tho
 
6:09 AM
winmain is a kind of main
 
6:21 AM
I see things like void then the function name on a newline
obvioustly I cant paste copyrighted matirial here
 
nwp
You get confused by newlines?
 
and if I did it would DDOS the whole internet :P
 
nwp
Are you a markov chain or something?
 
@CoderCat yes you can
The survey should take about 30 minutes to complete. We encourage you to complete it in one sitting.
:-/
 
@CoderCat If it's long enough for copyright to be relevant, you probably shouldn't paste it here.
 
6:36 AM
quotes for discussion are fair use
 
@Mikhail Perhaps. Maybe even probably. But it's pretty much irrelevant--point is, you shouldn't be pasting any substantial chunks of code here in any case.
@CoderCat Some people like to put the return type on a separate line from the name of the function itself. I rarely find it useful, but obviously opinions/tastes differ.
 
7:13 AM
anyone know anything about servo?
I am looking at the work involved with servo driver and I feel the urge to cry
 
ah I see.
how can I hide C++ suggestions in codeblocks and just have C suggestions for now
i.e keywords
ive googled it, it came up about hot dogs or something
 
7:33 AM
wait, can I connect servo directly to the pi?
 
I thought the word was, "expelled". Or some things change in the past decade?
Damn am I glad I survived that point in life.
 
Also reinforces that idea that autism is the primary qualification for a job at Google
 
What led to my drop: distractions.
there were many distractions for me too when I was in college, but this was never an excuse ...
 
In HS, I had my parents nagging me to do everything, I didn't have to try and keep track of things.
 
no self motivation, no self discipline
 
7:56 AM
Guy can't take any community college classes because he had too many AP classes :-)
Google + UIUC connection is strong tonight: news-gazette.com/news/local/2018-01-08/…
 
8:42 AM
@crasic correction, you power the car through servo, servo is connected to a servo driver, which is in turn connected to the raspberry pi
many tutorials on this
open source code too
 
9:03 AM
Power the car via servo? Strange.
 
@Mikhail I can kinda relate with this person. It really sucks to fail at university.
Now I don't care anymore since I'm good at my job.
But back then I found it really hard to do the all the work and studying.
 
@ABuckau do you know whether Arduino and raspberry pi share the same jumper cable?
 
Ven
Hi
 
@crasic I believe Windows 95 was the first Windows that provided process memory isolation.
 
NT was a little sooner
 
9:28 AM
Anybody got a copy of mono handy?
 
9:40 AM
@Mikhail uh.... which one...? /s
 
Ven
👏
 
9:57 AM
@TelautonomousKitty the pi's GPIO pins will probably be unable to provide enough amps to power the servo, a few mosfets as buffer will fix that though
 
 
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10:59 AM
@ratchetfreak You don't power the servo from the GPIO, but you can happily control it via GPIO
 
11:15 AM
@TelautonomousKitty you mean will they both accept the same male plug? O_o I believe so.
 
@ABuckau you mean, gays?
 
I did not. Depends what tel meant by "share".
 
snowballing?
 
Ie. Have in common vs.at the same time.
(Removed)
 
@thecoshman yeah I was confusing it with steppers, or plain DC motors
 
11:31 AM
@ratchetfreak yeah, steppers and AC or DC motors all require high power on the control lines. It's only servos that have a low power control line. ofc, if you have an IC that does that actual driving, you could send that low power control signals and it handles the power draw for you
 
12:19 PM
What happened to discord, pirate?
@ABuckau I had to google that
 
something happened to discord?
that is, externally visible?
 
Well, the sharp increase of thecoshman making an appearance is externally visible
 
...right
 
that's only because
 
@StackedCrooked windows 3.0 had it if you installed on a 386 technically
but it was a completely different kernel than the 286 version
 
12:29 PM
@sehe hopefully not on company network : p
 
Oh. Well. If that would be a problem, so be it :) It was my home network
Urban D. is not too bad
 
Ur microwave is now a webcam. : D
 
webcam inside microwave would be a good idea (if feasible) ... so you know when your food is cooked in front of your PC :p
 
Nah. That was a microphone, right.
 
1:33 PM
@sehe what do you mean?
 
1 hour ago, by sehe
Well, the sharp increase of thecoshman making an appearance is externally visible
 
I don't know... I guess shit has just caught my attention a bit more than usual here
 
 
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2:38 PM
@StackedCrooked Sorry, but no. That would be Windows NT 3.1 (for native Windows programs, anyway).
@Mgetz Yes and no. It did have it, but only for MS-DOS programs, not for native Windows programs.
 
2:52 PM
@JerryCoffin AFAIR Windows 3.11 For Workgroups had the /protected option and it had process isolation (which also enabled preemptively multitasking terminal mode processes)
@JerryCoffin ah
 
3:14 PM
@JerryCoffin pretty sure it's the other way around, protected mode was only for windows processes
 
3:54 PM
@Mgetz It's...more complicated than that. Native Windows programs ran in protected mode, but they all shared a single large address space, so there was no isolation between them. Each MS-DOS program ran in its own V86 environment, isolated both from other MS-DOS programs and from Windows programs. They could reach outside that (to a very limited degree) via DPMI, but that's about the extent of it.
 
4:08 PM
@JerryCoffin the fun of the changes, I know NT had full isolation but it was 32bit to start
 
 
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5:30 PM
@wilx My uncle told me he used to pose as a gay man to get closer to women.
 
5:58 PM
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix lol. That's pretty brave of him to admit it. :D
 
6:34 PM
@Mgetz So it was. 16-bit Windows kernels running in 386 enhanced mode were a lot more 32-bit than many people realized though. You actually had a 32-bit kernel, with the 16-bit Windows "kernel" basically running as a single process, with all your cooperative Windows "processes" inside of that. The big difference is that the 32-bit kernel didn't have a (publicly documented) API to support 32-bit clients.
 
6:52 PM
@JerryCoffin right 95 had the weird hybrid kernel that was 32bit with a 16bit userland, where 32bit processes had to call through win32k to get support
If I recall there were about three different flavors of this insanity depending on if you had a 2/3/486
of course all of it was moot when windows 98 came out
 
@Mgetz Yeah, something like that. Hard to describe without drawing some pictures...
 
@JerryCoffin I think Raymond Chen described it all on his blog somewhere, but his blog is a pain to search so I'm not going to bother
 
your face is a pain to search
 
@Mgetz Not really--Win98 was pretty much just a mildly updated version of the same thing. In theory Windows Me was as well, but opinions on it differ. I tend to think it was Microsoft's ever so gentle way of "nudging" people toward Win2K and succeeded perfectly at that. Others think it was intended to succeed in its own right, and was a massive failure for flopping so badly.
 
@JerryCoffin ME was definitely 32bit. While 98 introduced the 32bit WDM nobody used it preferring VxDs (which were 16bit). ME was a much bigger step towards NT with much deeper WDM requirements, which caused compatibility issues for people that upgraded.
as for the transition to NT, I think that writing was on the wall.
 
7:01 PM
@Mgetz I doubt it could all be described in a reasonable number of blog entries. The original Windows Internals (the one by Matt Pietrek) was well over 500 pages long, and it still glossed over quite a few details.
 
@JerryCoffin He's bounced around quite a bit, but yes you're right
 
On the other hand, that was still only around half the size of Inside Windows 2000, and if anything was even more detailed (in at least some ways).
@Mgetz Sure--but if you draw a high-level block diagram of how the system was put together, it's still pretty much the same thing as Windows 95 (or even Windows 3 in 386 enhanced mode). Down under it all, you still have a copy of MS-DOS running in a V86 task (though as more VxD and WDM drivers were added, it was used less and less often).
 
@JerryCoffin pretty sure this was true until ME, may be XP
 
7:16 PM
@Mgetz Me, yes. Not XP. XP was based on the NT kernel, and didn't run a copy of MS-DOS unless you used it specifically to run a DOS program. Win 9x/Me used MS-DOS to provide "last ditch" device driver support (among other things) so although it was used less and less over time, running a copy of MS-DOS was a crucial part of booting the system.
 
7:50 PM
oh my god
 
8:33 PM
becky
look at her butt
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@sehe I’ve always been peeved by abolish's lack of handling \< & \> boundaries. took me 10s to search :h abolish to figure out how to do it properly… years after the fact. I feel like such an idiot
 
9:14 PM
I did it! I have killed the Dark Souls 3 tutorial boss. It only took a month and I had to change from supposedly beginner's knight to pyromancer.
 
9:31 PM
Hi guys - anyone here used Amazon Web Services before? I'm a little confused how it works in terms of requiring additional software which may not be pre-loaded.. I need an R package which uses Boost and not sure if I'd be able to download it on a virtual machine?
 
@JerryCoffin That actually sounds a lot like the direction Mac OS Copland took, before it was cancelled.
 
@SamT Its just a computer that is running somewhere else, anything you can do locally you can do on AWS
You will probably have an easier (cheaper) time running linux even though they do offer windows images, whatever distro you choose should have boost and R in the repositories. If you need GUI you can use VNC or something similar to access the machine, otherwise its all done through ssh/terminal commands
 
9:47 PM
Compiling with template-heavy libraries in the AWS environment is slow, though. Do get a local, fully-compatible VM.
 
@Potatoswatter Very true, for the lowerst tier $5 a month you get a pretty simple machine, relative to desktop computers
 
(Of course, if you pay more, you get more.)
 
Years ago I ran gentoo on a pentium 2 laptop. A system upgrade took 24 hours to recompile.
 
10:04 PM
@Borgleader
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Q: Rules regarding religious expression

user8245507The stack exchange website has a saying. Here's how it works: Anybody can ask a question Anybody can answer The best answers are voted up and rise to the top **Anybody can ask a question ** I've had to raise this issue on the main site as my points are too low to ask on meta sinc...

 
@LucDanton hehee. You can't be required to know all about all plugins. If it were core Vim feature, I'd fault you for it :)
 
By the way, I'm here, now - a bit tired but you could fire away about your API design
 
@Mysticial Is he saying that "Thanks and God Bless" is a religious expression and not a superfluous sign off?
 
Can't it be both
 
10:06 PM
I can't see why not
 
@sehe cool, remember enough about ranges to figure out things like zip(a, concat(b, c))? (concat is spelt e.g. join with Boost.Range)
 
Only used Boost Range, to date
 
what about linq & the like?
 
Oodles of experience. Longish ago :)
 
anyhoo, we’ll focus on zip and concat as straw functions and the premise we’ll be that there’s not really one zip function: they are at least two
 
10:16 PM
Let's have some
 
that is, you can zip together two forward-only ranges to produce a forward-only range; and you can zip together two bidi ranges to produce a bidi range (it extends to random-access but we just need those two capabilites)
I describe them as two 'different' functions because the bidi one does more work than the forward-only function: it has to compute the end
 
Hmm. I'm not sure I see why.
 
@sehe the final item of the zip of, say, two ranges is not made up of the two respective final items because the ranges may have mismatched lengths
 
@crasic I get the feeling this person is offended by stuff like happy holidays, and a Santa in a grey suit.
 
@LucDanton Yes. But that means it needs to check for end-iterator of either, which forward-only also needs to do
 
10:20 PM
@Borgleader
I really don't want to disappoint you here, but Stackoverflow isn't the place to express your religion. It's a place to ask and answer questions about programming. If you want to express your religion there are other places to do that. Stackoverflow is not one of them. It's the same reason you don't go to a grocery store to ask the clerk questions about your retirement fund. There is a place for everything. — Mysticial 27 secs ago
 
@sehe however that check does not happen when the zip range is being constructed, aka during the zip call
that’s true for either version; the precise difference in work is that the bidi zip must compute a sensible end
 
Why would you not do that lazily for bidis? I mean Bidis only promise stepwise increments, so you'll find out in time right?
 
@sehe that depends what we mean by 'a range' and by 'bidirectional traversal'; for our purposes we want to be able to e.g. traverse the result of a zip in reverse order
 
It sounds like we need two zips :O
 
@sehe iow support I have auto rng = zip(a, b); reverse-for(auto&& elem: rng) { … } then there’s not much good in being lazy, right?
 
10:25 PM
@LucDanton Ah. Penny drop. In a way, an end is always there and you... should be able to decrement it. Shit. There's no really satisfactory solution to that, I suppose
 
by which I mean, another premise is that 'I have a range' means 'I have computed everything I need for whatever comes next'
 
One which assumes equal-length BoundedRanges, and one which is lazy.
 
@LucDanton Yeah. I suppose the whole conundrum can be defined away by defining reverse_zip which is just zip(reverse(a), reverse(b)) :)
 
@sehe actually it was really important to cover that because a) terminology is vague across ecosystems b) it would come up in the subsequent discussion sooner rather than later; in fact hang on to it
@Potatoswatter yes that is the premise :)
in fact I think we’ve got the bases down: knowing that we have two zip and two concat functions, how do we package that sensibly to an end user?
 
With sriracha sauce!
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Really, though, pick the one which offers more features at the expense of more requirements, and call it zip/concat. Call the other one lazy_zip or forward_zip or whatever.
 
10:31 PM
Does zip traverse in memory order or in logical order?
 
Memory order is seldom used in C++. (Unless it's the same as logical order.)
 
I'm with potato-swatter.
 
@Potatoswatter that makes for an order k×n api surface, for k different enough traversals and n range functions (not all range functions will have k variants)
 
It's really no difference with the "modern fashion" of including tag type arguments (piecewise_construct_t, launch_policy::..., ordered_unique_range_t etc.).
 
I have another concern where a savvy user may notice that e.g. concat(a, forward_only_zip(b, c)) is shorter than forward_only_concat(a, forward_only_zip(b, c)) and start writing that
 
10:36 PM
@LucDanton This isn't a perfectly general or generic rule, it's just my judgment for this example. A good-enough type system would allow one API and a smart compiler to choose automatically, but Concepts aren't that system.
 
Yes, keeping the number of unique names down is a feature, but really, it's the same "api surface" IMO
 
the trap being that one may end up writing it the other way around: forward_only_concat(a, zip(b, c)) where the zip performs too much work
 
Can you define an iteration strategy as an optional argument or lambda argument?
 
@Potatoswatter I’m not shooting down the idea, I’m commenting on it: it’s all about trade offs
@sehe it doesn’t work very well for variadic functions (which zip and concat ultimately are) without keyword arguments
 
@LucDanton can't it be required as the first positional argument(s)?
 
10:39 PM
obviously the compiler/the concepts you write can tell apart a tag from a range, but imo the burden on the user is not worth it
 
@crasic that leads to the "user-guided tag dispatch" - or should I say "faux overload set division". I think that's fine, but only if you anticipate a lot of these variations
@LucDanton ^ I agree.
 
@sehe if it’s mandatory then yes
 
Often you need to convert overloads to tags or vice-versa in the implementation details. But tags in the interface need good justification. I shudder at the memory of ISO tag naming debates.
 
@Potatoswatter Just think of what a tag tagging debate would have looked like... :-)
 
        // requires (... && ForwardRange<Rngs>)
        // don't ask
Tantalizing
 
10:43 PM
hey what did I say :)
 
@Potatoswatter Not as much if you can target c++17 +
 
@sehe there’s actually an argument for it when you compute the tags, but I don’t think that fits the discussion because we’re centred on end users
 
Yeah. That's my point. I think the separate names route has the best chance of being completely self-documenting.
No surprises, even from looking at the doc's reference index
 
unnecessary work is kinda a surprise (it’s not unusual for it to be linear in number of elements of one or more of the argument ranges)
 
Only if you anticipate a lot of namespace pollution from inane variants, yeah, then the balance tips to spelling it out in tag types IMO. This is something that can be explained to that end-user
@LucDanton I didn't advocate that
 
10:47 PM
@sehe I mean in case of a user mistake
 
@JerryCoffin For starters, use template< typename > struct tag {}; and to turn undeclared elaborated-type-names into valid tags.
 
@LucDanton Nah that's fine be me, especially given good names (P-Swatter's "zip_lazy" etc. seemed convincing)
 
@sehe I'm out of the loop, is there a nice new feature for this?
 
@sehe Nieblerism: you can stow the overloads as e.g. zip.forward_only(a, b) leaving, say, zip.call(forward_traversal_tag, a, b) for not-so-end users which do the generic programming thing with tag computing
 
It's much more important that things work right in the first place. And if people require the last drop of perf, it's fine if that requires them to know their stuff (and the API's they depend on)
@LucDanton Mmm. It triggers my "ew fluent syntax" bone, but let me think about that
@Potatoswatter constexpr-if if you look through your eye-lashes
 
10:53 PM
fry.md
@sehe in R periods are valid in identifiers, so e.g. as.vector is a function
> Also, if you open contacts list you will see them unsorted. Once you'll try to click to sort them the game will crash.
@ArkadiuszKoćma anet keeping it simple & stupid
 
@LucDanton I'm aware. I'm still trying to imagine whether I actually like it
 
it’s probably an argument against :)
 
to me, it breaks an abstraction (disclosing an implementation detail). However, you could also view it as namespacing... Of course true namespacing would go the zip::lazy vs. zip::bounded/call/general way. But it's close enough to ponder.
To be perfectly honest, I dislike the Niebler anti-ADL trick in itself, but defensible for what purpose they have and that the user doesn't readily see it in action.
That "magic mirror" is shattered with zip.variant_xyz
The stupid thing is: I'm twisted what matters more here. Appearances or functionality.
Where do we buy a representative end-user to experiment on
 
@sehe yes I tend to think of it as namespacing, and I don’t really have an opinion on . vs ::
@sehe it’s really, really useful for higher-order use
 
Yeah. It feels like paying taxes. I know what it's good for, doesn't make it fun.
This, basically is the fate of c++: eternal hoop jumping required.
And we pride ourselves at jumping the hoops with the most grace and the least effort. Still just hoops of course. Some of them on fire. I'm getting carried away
 
11:09 PM
actually I do have an opinion on .: it’s a better fit for variables e.g. arguments and think [](auto&& func) { return func.something_or_other(…); } and so on
@sehe in which respect or respects? to use, to write, to explain to a newcomer?
I’m asking because I’m liking this tangent :)
 
@sehe Interesting, I hand file and rather enjoy filing my taxes
 
Weird. A christmas decoration Santa-Claus suddenly decided to dismount from the tree.
@LucDanton Niebler's function objects: just to write or explain. About the "namespace dot" (ab)use I'm ... not convinced that it's frictionless for an end-user. But I haven't seen an argument either way yet. So it's basically just a prejudice for now
@crasic Filing != paying
 
@sehe writing-wise I actually like how it visually groups the operator() overloads in the same place
 
True. I often wished there was a way to do that with a lambda (auto overloads = [][(int) {}, (double) {}];)
 
or put another way it’s that open-closed thing, classes vs. namespaces. a principled justification of an anti-ADL hack
 
11:23 PM
@Morwenn join! You know all about zillions of (overloaded) algorithm flavours
 
eeeeeeh~, there's much to read now :/
plus I overloaded way too much for the sake of fun, I'm a sinner
 
@LucDanton yeah, but let's ask the user :)
@LucDanton (s)He'll be more interested about these effects
 
11:47 PM
@LucDanton lol
probably implemented in C++! :noel:
@sehe perhaps the remote filesystem was no longer accessible and it exceeded maximum retries
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