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20:00
CTAN is down! /o\
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@OneRaynyDay Look, I am rarely ever here nowadays, and do not know most of the people who have become regulars over the last couple of years, so I might have knee-jerked a bit hasty when I replied with the std::reply to your question. If so, I apologize.
nwp
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@OneRaynyDay looks like you got your [MCVE] right there
LOL my bad I accidentally pressed enter before the entire msg
@nwp Yeah - but that's diagnosing the problem - I already understand what's happening but I have no idea what to do
Didn't want to make you guys step through a bunch of stuff just to get the same result as what I just said about the heap thing
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@wilx clicking that link to figure out what CTAN is was not the best idea I ever had ...
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user1804599
@sehe concepts are like, compile-time contract programming
20:02
@nwp Haha. It is Comprehensive TeX Archive Network.
sbi
sbi
> "Doctor, my computer crashes if I allocate a resource in one DLL and free in another." "Well, then don't do that."
Contract programming conjures up very boring stuff
compile time lousy contracts that ruin my life
@sbi Oh, it's no problem! I really appreciate the fact that you're not killing me for bothering you. (The DLL problem... There's a lot of things that force me to do that)
@OneRaynyDay It is hard to kill somebody over the Internet even if you are one angry ape.
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20:03
> I really appreciate the fact that you're not killing me for bothering you
This rooms seems to have become even more toxic than it was when I was a regular.
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@OneRaynyDay I've noticed :)
@sbi No. People are just wimpier.
@sbi Considering the activity these days... you're almost a regular.
@sehe Senpai has noticed wow
sbi
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@Morwenn Really?
user1804599
20:04
> #BREAKING NEWS: Senate passes bill allowing 9/11 victims to sue Saudi Arabia over terror attacks |
user1804599
This is good, but what is suing terroristan going to buy you?
@wilx welp call me what you want but if I'm asking a question I'd better be damn respectful to everyone, even if they try to kill me anyways
@rightfold Honor and glory, duh.
No worries - I'll just ask it on the main website, you guys resume your activities
@sbi Icky? vOv its Sprite/7Up + grenadine syrup
Ven
Ven
20:06
@Ven /cc @rightfold @BartekBanachewicz
@rightfold a mobile home perhaps
@wilx they might on a relationship/dating site, you know
sbi
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@OneRaynyDay Oops. It seems we managed to weed out all the bad questioners. Let's stick to the "react toxic" rule then, because it works! :)
@Borgleader Oh. It tastes icky as well, then.
user1804599
@Ven this was posted hours ago, and I even told somebody who asked how to implement the bind operator for it
Ven
Ven
:[
user1804599
20:07
😜
user1804599
Λτ.λα:τ.α
sbi
sbi
> "Doctor, but I am forced to do so." "Then, young man, you might have to learn to live with the pain."
@nwp lol, I clicked that link to figure out why it was not the best idea to click it, and then it hit me. I am not a smart man...
sbi
sbi
"But I am forced to throw away the last pointer to the allocated memory before I can free it!"
@milleniumbug starbait denied
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user1804599
20:17
user1804599
@Ven are you doing something fun next week?
Ven
Ven
work.
oh, wait, you said "fun".
Apr 25 at 14:02, by Ven
You either leave the lounge young or see yourself becoming DeadMG.
sbi
sbi
@Ven You haven't seen the @Puppy as he was half a decade ago. He's almost fully house-trained now.
user1804599
I have a week off
sbi
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I am sorry for you.
Ven
Ven
20:26
nice
sbi
sbi
Why is it nice that I am sorry?
Ven
Ven
oh no you didn't
user1804599
Caitlyn Venner
nwp
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> Unfortunately, this video is not available in your country because it could contain music, for which we could not agree on conditions of use with GEMA.
Thank you GEMA!
sbi
sbi
20:31
@nwp Oh, you live in Germany?
GEMA is literally Hitler.
user1804599
HEMA
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@sbi I do
sbi
sbi
Hey, this is a Justin Beaver video. Nobody would click on it anyway.
@rightfold all my clothes
@sbi I'm sure you secretly love Bieber.
Anyway, I need to continue watching my animu.
Ven
Ven
20:33
@StackedCrooked i'm watching re:zero right now and it's goood :D
I'm glad I took it on
I'm glad you like it :)
sbi
sbi
@StackedCrooked One of my sons, around 12 or 13, had the hilarious haircut for a while (two years or so). That's the closest I have ever come to seeing Beaver.
@StackedCrooked hey, from your avatar - you're a OP fan right? :)
I love the manga series, it's like the only one which I've actually shed a tear from
Ven
Ven
20:34
@StackedCrooked they got great source materials!
(That ace scene tho)
@OneRaynyDay Now don't make me cry.. :(
Anyways, been too busy lately but I def need to get back to it - I'm still at the weird dr.evil ice/fire mountain arc haha
@StackedCrooked lik dis if u crey evrtim
user1804599
I want to make a video game.
nwp
nwp
woot, got the outspoken badge
how is there a 1 rep user in that list?
20:36
@sbi Cool. Didn't even know you had a son. I thought it was 3 daughters.
sbi
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@StackedCrooked I have several sons. (And daughters.)
Xeo
Xeo
They're whatever gender he needs them to be to fit his stories.
Ven
Ven
XD
Xeo
Xeo
20:37
Same for the amount.
I'm rewatching Chobits. Best decision ever.
Ven
Ven
@StackedCrooked I read the chapter where Reinhard appears a lot of times. I'm gonna watch that episode as many times.
@Ven I've seen it 3 times by now :)
user1804599
Ven
Ven
20:38
@StackedCrooked I see I'm not alone in this kind of stuff :D
sbi
sbi
@StackedCrooked There was a famous incident which I reported here a couple of years back, when some idiots drew a knife because my son didn't want to depart from the deposit bottles he was about to bring back to the supermarket. This got quite a bit of attention here and somehow I doubt you missed it. ICBWT.
Ven
Ven
@rightfold there's a comparison between ocaml and ML... And Ocaml and JS?
@nwp suspended probably
@sbi I kinda remember that .. yeah..
sbi
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@StackedCrooked Ah, so it's just that you're not a robot.
:)
20:40
My memory is worse than a robot's though.
sbi
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That's what (I thought) I said.
user1804599
@Ven no they just made a new parser for OCaml and made a big deal of it
Ven
Ven
oh LOL
@sbi woof
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@Puppy I was waiting for this.
user1804599
20:45
It's best to not open any tech news aggregators for the next few weeks.
nwp
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@rightfold what did you do?
user1804599
???
sbi
sbi
You asked tree questions?
Not knowing any JavaScript frameworks, what should I use for fairly simple web page interface to existing REST API?
20:51
@набиячлэвэлиь Heh.
user1804599
Vanilla JS lacks React and therefore sucks
Yes we know you get off to React
@rightfold Is React something nice?
user1804599
React is great
Anyone here used Tower (git-tower.com)?
user1804599
20:53
It's the best UI library ever
Wondering if any of you used it on the Mac.
user1804599
@R.MartinhoFernandes five years ago I used it for an hour or so. I can't recall anything at all
> >Version control with Git - made easy.
or you could use git
@BartekBanachewicz didn't you say you wanted to continue that
@wilx a loop that clones a template from a hidden div of a page and sets all the data bindings from a source object using property names in data attributes
you said simple page, that is simple way to generate page from content+ajax
20:56
@wilx React.
@doug65536 It's bad. It's really bad.
ffs fucking internet
apparently lounge works
@R.MartinhoFernandes You don't use git command-line?
@BartekBanachewicz We won the game.
if you mean real project, then use something real
I can't connect to TS
web is half-working
20:57
they suicided their army onto our bunkers
no idea what's going on
then I counterattacked and killed their three zealots and a fuckin' carrier
then cleaned up.
yeah.
@Puppy I do, pretty much exclusively.
20:58
oddly enough, a carrier literally on its own against a bunch of stimmed Marines is not that great.
sbi
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@Puppy I can attest that he does.
me too
sbi
sbi
How so? Did you work with him?
so yeah google seems to work
no, I also use the Git command-line pretty exclusively.
a bit of gitk is as far as it goes
21:00
google products seem to work
SO seems to work
other things ded
sbi
sbi
@Puppy I mostly work with Tortoise, although I do use the command-line for those parts I haven't found out about in Tortoise. Those become fewer and fewer, though... :)
@sbi wanna try the aforementioned Tower?
nwp
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I'm gonna try ninja instead of make
I wish there was a way to express "If you use up 33/20 GB RAM stop spawning jobs"
sbi
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Nope. I started out with TCVS around 2001 or 2002, later switched to TSVN, and now to TGit. Since this works well in TotalCommander, I see no reason to switch.
21:05
Ninja has a system load limit.
ninja -l limit
Good night.
user1804599
Bye robor
nwp
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@R.MartinhoFernandes cool, I'll look into it
installing "ninja-build - small build system closest in spirit to Make" automatically removes "ninja - Privilege escalation detection system for GNU/Linux"
dependency management is awesome
user1804599
Install Gentoo
Ven
Ven
@Puppy hehe, protoss air is mostly weak against marines ('cept for oracles, of course :P)
@nwp tbh the second project seems more appropriately named
21:44
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Q: C++ execution order in method chaining

Moises ViñasThe output of this program: #include <iostream> class c1 { public: c1& meth1(int* ar) { std::cout << "method 1" << std::endl; *ar = 1; return *this; } void meth2(int ar) { std::cout << "method 2:"<< ar << std::endl; } }; int main() { c1 c; i...

> meth
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22:00
@nwp stupid qt creator doesn't work with ninja. I could swear that worked at some point.
@ThePhD why do you think I lurve it?
@Khaled.K I chuckled
@jaggedSpire lurve?
What is lurve?
@Morwenn baby don't hurt me
don't hurt me, no more
Haha, you fell right into my trap :D
22:08
Can someone better help me understand why most of my edits are rejected, e.g. here where I fixed a compilation error: stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/12384019 Is it really better to add a comment than to just edit to fix?
nwp
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@JDiMatteo doesn't look like a substantial improvement to me
@nwp: going from non-compiling to compiling isn't an improvement?
@sbi This feels older than I am :x
nwp
nwp
@JDiMatteo correct. The point of that code is to show off virtual functions with default arguments, not to be readily copy-pastable.
sbi
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22:11
@Morwenn 1983. It says it right at the start.
nwp
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nobody is supposed to compile that
@sbi That's more then twice my age :O
@sbi Oh right, one year before 1984.
@nwp: ok, thanks for clarifying. I guess I have been too heavy on my tendencies to edit
@JDiMatteo looks fine to me
sbi
sbi
22:13
@набиячлэвэлиь Tsk. Kids.
@Morwenn Please tell me you didn't just admit to being past 30.
@sbi Not at all, I was thinking of the book.
I'm 24.
nwp
nwp
sounds older than 1992, but I really like that song
sbi
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@Morwenn Oh. For a moment there I was questioning your status as a female.
Wat.
sbi
sbi
22:20
@Morwenn Well, I have yet to get to know a woman not obviously approaching 40 who would freely admit to be past 30. :)
Growing old is sad, m'kay? ç____ç
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@sbi I think it kinda goes like a change of the versioning scheme. 27, 28, 29, 29b, 29c, 29d, ...
sbi
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@Morwenn The alternative is worse, though.
@nwp That's what I have learned, too. In fact, I have a friend who is 29n (or something like it). :)
@sbi ISTR it's more to block standard teacher corruption
@sbi I wouldn't know.
nwp
nwp
22:24
I need to watch the rocky horror picture show again
it is somehow inspiring
sbi
sbi
@sehe Maybe. Whatever. Still, shutting down a whole country's Internet access...
Damn, I wanted to go to bed early, and now I am stuck on YT, watching videos of Bob Dylan rocking with Ron Wood, Bon Jovi playing with The Boss, and Tracy Chapman singing with Pavarotti. Sigh.
I spend a lot of time on various social media and online games with people I don't actually know. Kind of weird that I can tell everyone more about people online than I can about the people I attend uni with ^^;
I've got to go. Have a good whatever :)
I lurve you ♥
@Morwenn <3
@Morwenn toodles~
22:40
^^
sbi
sbi
G'night!
Xeo
Xeo
23:14
@nwp Hey, that means I'm just 18f! Wait a second...
23:27
is it Sisyphean to extend clang to preprocess a C++ superset – really just like a handful of bespoke keywords – back down to vanilla C++11, via AST? Or is that something that reasonable people do in fact do
that sounds almost like a job for macros
It seems like it would be a fun project at first, before ultimately compounding under its own weight into a quagmire of illegible attempts at being clever
Ahaha that is what I thought too
I am not really a macro fan but if it could make a superset-ish syntax I could give to someone who is not a C++ afficionatto without putting them off, that would work
But then, would that not put the author of such a macro suite in the same position as the people who had to maintain Actionscript 2.0?
well do you want a new language or do you want to extend c++ for a very specialized few cases?
The latter. I just basically want to have an almost-compatible almost-a-legit-C++-superset where something like generator MyThing {}; gets turned automatically into class MyThing : public ThingBase<MyThing> {}
… so as not to have to spend 30 minutes trying not to explain CRTP to someone who is really good at writing procedural DSP code, basically
… a few other new keywords and labels (e.g. inputs: in leu of public:) would totally do it
leaving like the other 90-95% of the AST exactly as it was when it came in
nwp
nwp
hack clang
23:40
… if this is not insipid and/or totally circuitous
right! I totally want to do that.
nwp
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I'm currently trying that, not that straightforward
Oho yeah?
Yeah the codebase seems very well organized but seriously verbose
nwp
nwp
yeah, gonna add a clang-tidy rule and then implement some reflection
but probably get stuck and not manage to do anything
Right exactly that sounds like a similar aim
And similar likely outcome
nwp
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anyways, got to go sleep, good luck
23:42
It seems like one would end up with a copy of the clang codebase that is one commit ahead and 2,000 behind master
Night night, thanks for listening
nwp
nwp
git merge can do wonders :P
So far so good
You have a link to your project before you lose consciousness?
I am hacking on Halide which itself is llvm-based so I am not a total rube on this I do swear

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