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user784668
08:10
Boost.bimap can't store move-only types? Fuuuuuuuu
I just don't get the point of .cstring if it returns a const
user784668
@ocket8888 &str[0] is mutable for mutable str and does the same thing.
I know, I just don't understand the use case of .cstring
user784668
list.erase does not throw, right?
@ocket8888 the use case is "I need a C-string"
08:31
look at all the rep whores answering instead of CVing
@HubertApplebaum need moar rep to be able to vote to close!
it's a vicious cycle
It works because foo->getData() is equivalent to getData(foo); and the callee never derefefence the argument. — Nawaz 28 secs ago
0/10
Xeo
Xeo
derefefence
user1804599
@HubertApplebaum ugh
look at all these high rep users feeding on a dupe
:+1:
08:45
wait is there still time for me to add an answer and get rep
@melak47 but then why would you ever prefer a const char* to a char*
@ocket8888 not all APIs are shitty C APIs that don't care about const
C language is best language
north korea best korea
*C with classes is best language
08:48
north khorea best north
@HubertApplebaum this guy gets it
@HubertApplebaum as voted by everyone who is willing to say so
An Italian artist wanted to hitch-hike to the Middle East to show that she could put her trust in the kindness of local people. She was found murdered in Turkey.
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thanks redit
radote
oh and gang raped too
well at least it was a happy ending I guess
08:53
@HubertApplebaum pre or post mortum?
user784668
@thecoshman yes
@thecoshman shitpost mortem
@HubertApplebaum but was it local popele who did that
maybe they were kind enough to put her out of her misery of being italian idk
it might have been other Italian artists
There was some performance artist who's ~art~ was just letting people do what ever they wanted whilst she sat there for like 24 hours. Fairly soon she was getting felt up, then people start to do stuff like cut her. Eventually a crowd started to try to defend her as she was so committed she wouldn't resist
08:56
How did that not turn into bukkake within a few minutes
to hot for that
elyse can you log out of Andy's account pls
or not hot enough
Ven
Ven
yo lounge
user1804599
YOLOunge
08:57
@HubertApplebaum why, it's fun
now popele think I'm actually a serious person
user784668
@AndyProwl you mean popeye?
ucuntu
some one make a post about touch and clit
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09:00
aw, the clit question's been cleaned.
they scrubbed that clit
user784668
Speaking of scrubbing…
user784668
echo check | sudo tee /sys/block/md0/md/sync_action
user1804599
toilet papyrus
Ven
Ven
@Zoidberg oh, I see you were summoned by @AndyProwl
@HubertApplebaum omg github.com/Quitch
user1804599
09:06
@Ven ???????????????????????????????????
Morning lounge
Ven
Ven
10 mins ago, by Andy Prowl
How did that not turn into bukkake within a few minutes
yo fréro
user1804599
they want to separate gay asylum seekers from non-gay ones because they get bullied
user1804599
instead of bonjouring the bullies out of the country
user1804599
WTF is wrong with these people
user784668
09:08
@Zoidberg They're people.
user1804599
why does crime pay instead of get punished
Ven
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"bonjouring"
@Ven omg you found me
user1804599
what's gonna happen when these people end up in houses after the asylum centre period
user1804599
will gays get their own towns?
Ven
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09:10
@HubertApplebaum yes im so gud
user1804599
user1804599
lol Objective-C
Ven
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I just realized we have two Uchihas here. but I only plonked one
09:17
just discovered this distrib
debian based
@Ven who is the other one?
Ven
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madara
ohh, I know him
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I'm sorry.
good news everyone
09:20
yes yes yes?
I'm going to uncon
Ven
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oh, are you?
yer in paris atm, right?
Ven
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tu pars d'ou/tu prends quoi/tu payes combien?
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user784668
@slaphappy My condolences.
user1804599
09:23
@HubertApplebaum fail
user1804599
Install Gentoo.
**template<typename T>
T&& std::forward(T&& param) // does this forward always returns lvalue reference?
{
return static_cast<T&&>(param);
}**
@Ven no idea, I just decided I'd attend.
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@AngelusMortis no, it does reference collapsing
@slaphappy please keep me updated, I'm interested.
@AngelusMortis Can be R or Lvalue reference.
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09:24
and I'm sure you'd love to travel with me ♥
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Q: The implementation of std::forward

songyuanyaoI'm reading Overview of the New C++ (C++11/14) (PDF only), at Slide 288 it gives a implementation of std::forward: template<typename T> // For lvalues (T is T&), T&& std::forward(T&& param) // take/return lvalue refs. { // For rvalues (T i...

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@Morwenn thanks for making these hearts so readily available. ♥
@Ven lol, do you go only if I go
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@slaphappy not exclusively
@Ven and @ThePhD the accepted answerer says "it always produces lvalue references."
09:24
@Ven can you drive? do you have a car?
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@slaphappy not quite yet :v.
it's in the works...
@AngelusMortis well, T&& does reference collapsing. I didn't even see the cast
the license or the car
Ven
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and I gather @ThePhD didn't either
user784668
@AngelusMortis lrn2read
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@slaphappy license. car would be easier to share
09:26
Oh.
do you think you'll have it by june :P
Why are you writing your own implementation of this.
Also, the standard mandates that the implementation will forward based on the reference type of the value it receives.
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@slaphappy Nah, there's a 6 months waiting list in paris for a driving license...
The cast you've written is probably wrong and in the end bad.
@Fanael WT...
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09:27
@ThePhD well, this is std::move :D
implementation looks ok to me, the only problem is that it allows type deduction
@Ven wtf
@Ven I waited two weeks
@Fanael but I read to learn , seems can't get along well :D
@Ven your school sucks
user784668
@AngelusMortis std::forward(x) always returns lvalue reference. But you can't call it like that, since the whole point of std::forward is to disallow type deduction
Ven
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09:29
@slaphappy it's the same everywhere in paris
It's not, I had my license in Paris last year.
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last year, 2 weeks!? wtf
 template<typename T>
T&& std::forward(T&& param) // does this forward always returns lvalue reference?
{
return static_cast<T&&>(param);
}
@AngelusMortis + please
@slaphappy thanks
09:30
@AngelusMortis Look for "perfect forwarding"
I was only talking about that particular code, sorry guys for pestering
@AngelusMortis // no
The problem with the first is that you can write std::forward(x), which doesn't do what you want, since it always produces lvalue references. -> stackoverflow.com/questions/27501400/…
that's correct
@Ven lol
if you didn't choose such a lousy school you could have driven to poland this summer
09:34
Anyways Thanks all for help :)
@AngelusMortis For maximum lel: std::forward(std::move(x))
Ca sert d'etre un bouseux de province frer, passé mon miper en meme pas 3 mois #ThugLife
@ThePhD you just hammered me :D
@Rerito idem vOv
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@Rerito ptn kel tug
09:35
And I haven't driven ever since o/
I drive my audi around town from time to time.
Kéké
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@slaphappy t'imagines vraiment faire 16h de bagnole avec moi wtf tu tiendrais pas copain
user784668
merde au fromage
@Ven j'ai deja fait 24h d'un coup (stockholm -> paris)
09:37
@Ven Do you watch "bonjour tristesse"?
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@Rerito nah
@Rerito lol
je suis charlie
Product type undifined
is this a joke
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@slaphappy so, do you still plan on going by car, drivin' alone in the night?
09:41
not alone
car is interesting if we go together
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you'll be driving alone still
user784668
lol binutils
if you can't help, I guess we'll take the train
@Ven not for 16 hours straight.
Train in vain
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well, not straight fo' sure
@Rerito you said you couldn't come, correct?
09:42
@Rerito you going?
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well, you'll probably come on hubert later.
user784668
I need to build binutils twice, for two different targets.
@Ven Correct
@HubertApplebaum, @Morwenn, any chance?
And even if I were going, I haven't driven for like 2 years
Well it will be two years at the time for unconf
09:45
@slaphappy Possibly
I've checked the flights Dubai-Unconf already
dubai?
also we're interested in people doing paris-unconf
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@slaphappy morwenn said he had no monies, but by car might change that fact..?
@HubertApplebaum petrodollars
yes because I fly emirates like the rich posh I am
I might be able to go to uncon.
Tomorrow I need to call in about my tuition
see how much money I have left over.
I already successfully won one battle for keeping 1.5K USD to myself after they tried to forcefully fish it out of my pockets.
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There are two Hubert Applebaum on facebook :o
09:48
I don't know why, though...
I'm so tired.
@Ven lol
speaking of which my nickchange is overdue
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yes, when's that happening?
@HubertApplebaum Use the pic I provided :D
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@HubertApplebaum do you do female nickchanges?
.oO( nick les females )
non je hais cette société hétéronormative de merde et oppressive etc
09:50
Fuqmi Dapusi
Faqminda Pusi*
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@HubertApplebaum une nouvelle signification au #disgusted
subtle
user1804599
to do to the rescue
10:11
Trump Trump... #MakeDonaldDrumpfAgain #doyouknowflo http://on.fb.me/1bk0DhW https://t.co/5lCDkNmxI2
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oh, new APL mailing list email.
10:24
@Ven it's 12hrs
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@slaphappy well, that's arguably much better, but still very long
You know what else is very long?
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a travel to south africa
Indeed
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10:52
wow, dyalog apl has double alpha/omega for inner stuff Oo
@Zoidberg tryapl.org/…
I suck at Java.
There is not way I can ever make Hibernate Validator or Apache BVal working.
I tried like 4 times already.
I simply do not understand this shit.
FML.
Ven
Ven
rip :/
@wilx it's ok, it's not your fault, Java just really is shit that way
@thecoshman Thanks, man. :)
user1804599
11:06
@Ven reminds me of PHP's break 42;.
@orlp No plans to standardize <cthread>. We already have <thread>, both are different and maintaining both would be a nightmare.
Which is why <ccomplex> is deprecated too: it was useless since it didn't implement C's complex numbers.
@Ven No problem, but it's a mere Alt+3 on Windows.
@slaphappy Probably not. I don't think I can take days to come in the first months.
11:31
Seriously, I love Simone Gierts. Her robots are simply shiny xD
@HubertApplebaum btw the color color problem strikes hard when it comes to concepts—now it’s concept type variable, e.g. template<Color Clr> void foo(Clr c);
great grammar
@HubertApplebaum alluring alliteration
@LucDanton void foo(Color color);
11:35
hey guise
i'm lounging while at work
bet you didnt know i was actually french
lol
I lounge and discord while at work, beat that
I did nothing today
i did all that and demanded higher pay too
and a bonus + extra holidays
and 4 day work week
don't forget the free healthcare and retirement at 32
11:39
Slacking competition? What do I win?
you rented out your physical presence
dunno i cant really top that
@Rerito Nothing, you work out.
I spent too much time in uni
@HubertApplebaum *Disclaimer: 32 is a base 22 number
11:41
the whole 6.5 years (for 2 degrees and a postgrad)
@HubertApplebaum want 2 dine together
yes but like now can you
ok
nick & cicada fist fight is always fun to watch
what do you wanna have
11:42
now just waiting for the two to move in together
if they sort out their attitude differences
something french
had french yesterday already
your choice then
Pick something random that you wouldn't generally eat even though it seems like you won't like it at first.
Dicks don't count.
tsui wah? ._.
I'm not super hungry tbh
shocking I know
or wang fu if you like dumplings
11:46
How is local food like?
hong kong food itself is nothing special
but the good thing about HK is you have restaurants from all over asia
and a colossal amount of those are michelin-starred
wang fu being one of those IIRC
Ever tried to eat in a Pyongyang restaurant?
lol
yeah if you want korean we can go for bibimbap or something
good idea actually
how 2 pronounce??
bee bee m bab
actually I really am not hungry ._. I'll just get a sammich I guess
11:51
go for it
I don't have plans to eat today, but I have an interview in a bar/restaurant in 1h30 and I'm going to the pub tonight.
neat are you applying for a waitress position
@Morwenn Mangez rapide, mangez liquide
En Bretagne, on n'a pas de vraies montagnes, mais on a une bonne descente.
I'm applying as a stripper
11:54
@HubertApplebaum Lol, no.
@Morwenn L'eau c'est pour les bateaux
l'alcool c'est pour les tafioles
It's just that it's a companyy that works for Thales, but they work at Thales in an area where you can't get people in easily. So... they don't have an easy place for interviews, so they just interview people in a nearby bar/restaurant.
Manger, c'est tricher.
Donc SSII ou sous-traitant?
11:56
SSII = cancer
@Rerito Sous-traitant.
Pas traiteur.
démangeaisons vaginales
Ikr, they're fucking my brother quite hard atm
what am I reading
@Rerito SSII is my nickname
@HubertApplebaum 😏
12:02
So, nothing unexpected and/or exciting for C++17 yet.
user1804599
12:13
Homosexual IS-warrior Muhammad A. (24) did not dare to come out with his Dutch nationality. Fearing harassment and violence he feels compelled to keep silent towards his brothers in the Caliphate that he comes from a suburb of Zoetermeer.
@jaggedSpire now im hungry too :P
@jaggedSpire rip
@JerryCoffin Hehehe, that would have been good.
@Zoidberg At least he gets to rape young bois
12:30
guys it's ESN now alright
@Morwenn Modules etc. still kept out?
Did they decide on variant stuff?
@ThePhD Yes.
Optionals?
As of now, what is confirmed: Filesystem TS, almost all of the Library Fundamentals TS v1 (except polymorphic memory resources and invocation traits), special math functions TR and reference to C11 standard instead of C99.
So yes, it includes std::optional but it doesn't include std::variant.
can std::optional handle references?
12:41
I don't think so since it's supposed to allocate raw memory an construct an object in-place in the raw memory. Can we in-place construct references after construction?
Going to the interview. See you later.
boost::optional has a specialization for references, to make them behave like non-owning pointers.
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@Morwenn gl <3
see ya later
polymorphic lambdas are a much "fresher" feature - coming in a minor release (14); fuck C++17
yay polymorphic lambdas
static foreach
12:56
yup polymorphic lambdas are the best
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13:11
aw what, I think I crashed TryAPL :[
user1804599
@Ven hahahaha fucking loser
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@Zoidberg fuck off retard
user1804599
:'(
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fucking piece of shit
user1804599
XD
13:17
@slaphappy is that like a constexpr range for?
@melak47 dunno, what's that?
I dunno :p
for (constexpr auto x : stuff) { ... } :p
@melak47 std::experimental::apply(std::make_pair("asdf", 42, -5.42), [](auto& x){ std::cout << x << "\n"; });
user1804599
@melak47 :v
@milleniumbug wait, so there's going to be two std::applys? std::apply(f, arg_tuple) and std::apply(tuple_ish, f)? :S
13:23
dunno what's the order
oh, it's the function first
meh
well the one I'm thinking about calls f with the tuple elements as arguments - what does yours do?
std::make_pair("asdf", 42, -5.42)
foreach for tuple-like things?
@Griwes :v
@Griwes lol
Jul 4 '14 at 13:56, by milleniumbug
What pair?? How do I change it that it can take three elements? — user3805689 41 secs ago
lol
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13:42
APL fixeth
@Zoidberg i'm having a hard time understanding smth in APL.
user1804599
SSCCE
@melak47 Honestly being able to use constexpr to denote something that should be compile time would be a great way to work things in the language...
constexpr arguments would be the shiznits.
:(
constexpr_cast<expr>() :p
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lol
I'm an orthodox Jew working full time as an APL programmer.

That's good, because my main interests are Judaism and APL.
user1804599
lol dat bio
user1804599
13:52
Adám prides himself on having got APL with the breast-milk, as he attended his first APL conference at the age of one.
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@Zoidberg how to set a base case for a recursive. I don't understand how it doesn't recursive infinitely
dfs ← {⊃∇⍨/⌽(⊂⍺ ⍺⍺ ⍵),⍺ ⍵⍵ ⍵} ⍝ disclose of accumulator item
subs ← {(0=≡⍵)↓,⍵}            ⍝ drop-if-leaf vector of sub-trees.
user1804599
:/
@Ven Loool sounds like a @HubertApplebaum impersonation (with less taste though)
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well, he actually works at Dyalog
@Zoidberg and then called: 0 {⍺+1} dfs subs (1 2)(3 4)
and I don't understand when "∇" stops there.
so
leaving work early to rush to a sex shop to get my lappy
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14:00
1 Unable to open session file " /MiServer/ServerData/TAS000091.dcf"
well, tryapl still broken
you killed it
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:(
@milleniumbug No, it fails big time
Good news, 50 billion, 16384x16384 image generated in just over 11.5 hours
It's the most beautiful thing I've seen
user406009
14:18
Hmm. I wonder what shit I posted in here last night when I was drunk.
user406009
Uh, it was bad.
user406009
@orlp Sorry about being a little crude last night.
Oh, I gotta see that
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@Zoidberg I didn't actually break TryAPL! It just got an update with "keybindings"
yo peeps
14:20
yo
sup
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"fix" in APL: ({1+÷⍵}⍣≡)
yo @Shoe
@Shoe Hello, Commander
@Ven Now, tell me, how long did it take you to come up with this? :)
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@wilx it's a pretty well-known idiom
it's also not really complex
seriously. there aren't that many symbols and rules to learn. it's actually pretty easy
14:44
Could someone please point out what is wrong with this c++ function, it outputs -1 kopy.io/IliqN (beginner)
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the problem is that you didn't read the rules
I want to convert custom date structure to unix timestamp, but I get -1.
Luke, I feel a great disturbance in the rules
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Please read Da Rules sandstorm.
14:57
@Muhammet You are probably off by 1 because some of the values count from 0 unlike human dates?
@HubertApplebaum Darwin award!
@wilx the my date structure is date myDate = {26, 2, 2016};
So I am not sure if it's off.

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