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09:00
lol
> accidentally fixed
how can you accidentally fix something?
@ID_AA_Carmack Full RUD (rapid unscheduled disassembly) event. Ship is fine minor repairs. Exciting day! http://t.co/tIEctHFKHG
So that's what we call it these days
@ArneMertz hmm
a larger fix can contain a smaller fix that you are unaware was being tracked
so you unintendendly fixed that too
user1804599
> PM: Muslim Women Must Learn English To Integrate
user1804599
wut
user1804599
09:10
why only women
user1804599
and why only muslims
@sehe what? RUD?
:D
@MadameElyse That's not what it says. Please learn logic / reading comprehension
@MadameElyse Ditto
@sehe Carmack and Musk. Didn't know they're friends. I smell evil plot.
I smell Musk
ahahahahahaha
09:11
I smell pot
user1804599
unnest is so great.
user1804599
# SELECT unnest(ARRAY[1, 2, 3]), unnest(ARRAY[4, 5, 6]), unnest(ARRAY[7, 8]);
 unnest | unnest | unnest
--------+--------+--------
      1 |      4 |      7
      2 |      5 |      8
      3 |      6 |      7
      1 |      4 |      8
      2 |      5 |      7
      3 |      6 |      8
(6 rows)
Ven
Ven
Hi lounge.
user1804599
@Ven Can you have a short alias for a command-line option in MAIN signature?
user1804599
I have Bool:D :$dump-bash = False but I want to be able to specify -b instead of --dump-bash.
Ven
Ven
09:17
any single-letter named argument will become a short name in the command
user1804599
Yes, but I want an alias.
Have you considered robert
Ven
Ven
Use the alias syntax Perl 6 already has for arguments, it works IIRC.
user1804599
What is it?
@ARGV or so?
09:19
@AngryLettuce what is that dank meme
you used it with me too
user1804599
No. @ARGV is for primitive Perl 5 programmers. :P
user1804599
MAIN signatures are all the rage.
Ven
Ven
:a($b)or something, let me look that up again..
user1804599
> Redeclaration of symbol $dump-bash
@MadameElyse mmm. That's completely unintuitive, really. How does it not have 12 records.
Ven
Ven
09:21
@sehe Yeah, the number of records puzzled me as well. I guess it has "enough so that each gets repeated whole"?
user1804599
@sehe It repeats until they match up.
If it were consistent it would have 3 records
Ven
Ven
No, because then [7, 8] wouldn't match up
Oh. And why would that be so useful?
user1804599
If all arrays were three elements long, there would be three records.
09:22
@Ven I was talking about "consistent" not some arbitrary thing like "match up" that makes it work
user1804599
@sehe It's not that which is useful, but unnest in general.
35 secs ago, by sehe
Oh. And why would that be so useful?
Ven
Ven
@sehe Don't ask me. I just guessed the behavior
The thing that makes it inconsistent with general SQL is that cartesian join of multiple record sources should give all combinations
@Ven I can do guessing myself. I don't consider that useful
user1804599
We had a bug once due to implicit CROSS JOIN.
Ven
Ven
09:23
Apparently you couldn't there
user1804599
Accidentally sent 9000 SMS messages.
Assumptions. I was not saying I couldn't come up with /that logic/.
I just can't reconcile it with unconstrained joins.
user1804599
Cost a lot of money.
user1804599
Especially to send the next 9000 SMS messages to inform the receivers that the first 9000 SMS messages were invalid.
Ven
Ven
:D
09:25
Testing without whitelists is a really good idea
Ven
Ven
@MadameElyse yeah, try sub MAIN(:debug-mode(:$d)) { $d } :D
@MadameElyse I hope sending that much messages isn't illegal there.
inb4 the next 9000 SMS messages go to the wrong numbers, necessitating 18000 correction/apology SMS
It's not illegal if you pay (moar moneys moar fun)! It might be illegal if all of them end up at the same phone numbers
...checking my SMS inbox...
09:30
@SpaceX Bad luck. Can I suggest this alternative landing system? Should be much stabler etc https://t.co/GNXFUPmcIh
lol
@sehe that’s what I keep telling the police
@sehe ahaha
I just imagined that
Hi guise
@sehe They still missing that barge thingy?
@LucDanton you got it
@MartinJames huh?
09:33
@sehe Need moar dart fins.
Ohh.. it toppled over:(
"OnnnnnnnnneHundredAndEighty million dollars crashed out"
@Lalaland you only need to browse it until you hit nekopara
that's the apex
Ven
Ven
@AlexM. meh, the steam version is censored anyway. still gotta spam P tho
I'll send you a pic of my gog.com library later on
it's more relevant when it comes to quality games than my steam account if you ask me
steam doesn't have my all time favorites
11 hours ago, by Lalaland
As it seems like you have a great taste in games, I will have to browse your Steam library.
7 hours ago, by Lalaland
(And no, I don't actually have stalker files for people in the Lounge. I am not that crazy yet.)
a likely story
@AlexM. flee before it’s too late
09:43
@Ven I don't mind censored, trains your imagination
Ven
Ven
@AlexM. by "censored" I mean "scenes removed"
I know
Ven
Ven
Your imagination must be really great.
I never played many VNs but
Ven
Ven
oh, it's red chaika avatar time?
09:44
I never thought the sex parts added any kind of value
Ven
Ven
Well, nekopara is a specific type of VN, ... where you don't play.
it's such a cheap mechanism
I like nekopara because it's silly and has pretty catgirls
Hello.
Ven
Ven
yo @Morwenn
09:55
What's up?
inb4 Elyse cock
Ven
Ven
@Morwenn you know elyse too well it seems
@Ven No better than most people here :p
Ven
Ven
@Morwenn I'll let you discover me Kappa
@Morwenn hey, at least elyse doesn't come to you in private to talk about dicks and stuff
Right.
10:10
@ElimGarak I am (well, used to be) owner there, so I have it in a tab
@Morwenn lol
hi pepito and morvenn
Hi iceberg.
Oh la blagounette
jerry
Who wants to join this new church I just founded? It's the Church of Gay Black Atheism
@Elyse be my first preacher
Some of you make anime or just fans?
10:25
@AngryLettuce thats sort of funny.
user1804599
@Ven you think
user1804599
DICKS
Ven
Ven
@MadameElyse often
em, I guess it just wasn't that funny.
@MartinJames lol
@MadameElyse Not even a single mention of "banana" in the article.
user1804599
bananas
Why would there be?
No mention of Batman either
anananananaBatman!
@Shoe Your lack of more "na"s is disturbing.
You get the idea
10:44
Cool! Google just linked me a talk page instead of the wiki.
Plz send motivation.
> Show HN: Python to C++14 transpiler
cringemeter overload
> Python 2 to Python 3 transpiler.
@Shoe "These components may be", "may". Get some literacy. And a phone or email is something that use posses; the key idea is that knowing the password alone is not enough to enable to log into something.
user1804599
> <thecoshman> ... Get some literacy. ...
10:50
lol
I thank you :D
¬_¬ typo is not illiteracy, contrary to fartek's poor debate skills
Ven
Ven
@AngryLettuce I mean, auto is pretty much dynamic typing, amirite
2
@Ven no
but .. does auto slow you down sometimes?
@thecoshman Obvious joke
10:53
Today, let's play Blowing The Testsuite!
@Morwenn can I be the testsuite?
Ven
Ven
@TelkittytheWebDeveloper of course
@Ven You always type the same thing. Wouldn't call that dynamic.
user1804599
@Ven My love got me a nice ring containing an amirite gemstone.
Ven
Ven
That's a joke. Common, people.
10:54
@thecoshman If you've got a few bills left.
user1804599
C++ catch and dynamic_cast use dynamic typing.
@Morwenn just willi-ams
Failure to blow up the testsuite.
@Ven We don't joke about jokes
I have ingested a salad
10:56
Damn, even Alex has gone vegan.
Ven
Ven
TestSuiticle
not vegan, I still put cheese in my salads :P
user1804599
Testicle
user1804599
Testdickle
@MarkGarcia ... you realise salad is amazing, it has cheese and meat and stuff! Wait... that's a borito... mmm borito
10:58
Testickle.
@AlexM. Smart move.
I'd also put chicken but I'm not sure if it would work ok with the other ingredients
Cold chicken is great with herbes de Provence.
herbes the wat
I just get normal things like cucumbers and peppers
Everytime I want to translate the name of an ingredient in English, it appears that they use the French word ._____.
french words sound more pretentious
a requirement for any kind of cuisine :A
c wut i did thar
11:08
Herbes de Provence: mixtures typically containing savory, marjoram, rosemary, thyme, oregano, and other herbs
yea I'm not that sophisticated yet, I just do cucumbers + peppers + sweetcorn + tomatoes + green salad + cheese
and focaccia if I can get it otherwise flatbread works too
user1804599
$x := 1 == 01; echo $x;
$y := 1 eq 01; echo $y;
@AlexM. By peppers, do you mean bell peppers?
That word is so overloaded that it's hard to know what it means.
11:18
@Morwenn could be worse: 'static peppers'
SingletonPepper
user1804599
@Ven In which repository are things like Pair and Str and IO::Handle implemented?
@MartinJames Oh, I finally get it ._____.
11:40
Emacs is awesome. I have just found out about tildify-buffer.
@Morwenn The "other" herbs is what scares me! :)
@wilx Herbes de Sutter.
@Morwenn :D
@Morwenn Grossly overused:)
user1804599
12:31
p = w + n !!!!! — gen-y-s 46 mins ago
Ven
Ven
@MadameElyse rakudo
user1804599
@Ven oh, I see.
Ven
Ven
I just linked it :v
user1804599
12:33
Seems IO::Pipe.pair isn't very easy to implement.
user1804599
The easiest way to implement pipes seems to be using Proc::Async and cat.
user1804599
Or mkfifo /tmp/... and open.
uhoh. I just edited the question title of a question I answered. Then I notice OP's bio:
> I deleted my original stackoverflow account (user678269) after some editor deleted one of my questions (regarding system error exception class), because he did not understand it.
@sehe can they delete questions ??
Who's they? The community can vote to delete any post
12:43
All of my posts are good
I believe you
in The 2nd Monitor on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 50 secs ago, by itsbruce
Interesting morning, here. Two whole delivery teams have been suspended for not knowing how to write tests and faking it.
@Morwenn I don't get the excitement. Might have to do with the facts that I don't know what "delivery teams" are (UPS drivers?), how they can be "suspended" (assuming software industry again), and what "faking it" actually constituted
I was mostly wondering how can one manage to fake knowing how to write tests.
Oh. I've seen that happen before
12:47
I've no idea what a delivery team is either
must be webdev lingo
My thoughts exactly.
My point: if you call your developers "delivery teams", don't be surprised when they act like keyboard monkeys too
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Jun 25 '14 at 20:58, by sehe
Reminds me of some unit tests I deleted 2 years back that a (then) colleague had some how taken a week (or two) to write. They tested a mock implementation /only/
Only make vague references
12:56
@sehe Too often, that's what those wearing a suit want of us.
I think it's part of our job to remind them we aren't delivery boys.
Who care what they want? I tend to try to find people that want me to thrive
Because to most normal people, anything to do with programming or computers is black magic.
I consider it part of my job in life to find those spots
@sehe Also a good point.
It doesn't always work :) And I'm a loyal creature. So obviously I know what you're talking about
But I have done guerilla development in all environments (or I'd have had to quit)
12:59
whats guerilla development?
user1804599
@Ven why implementation-specific?
Ven
Ven
@MadameElyse ?
user1804599
Why is there not a cross-implementation standard library implementation?
Ven
Ven
cause it's too relying on nqp internals.
user1804599
> class IntStr is Int is Str
user1804599
13:03
dat inheritance
@Mr.kbok you bring a banana to work and then you go king kong on the code
sehe doing that must've been...
... unbearable
YEAAAAAAA
@AlexM. :)
30 reps for a hack, gonna see them flags soon.
@AlexM. actually it's contractor lingo
I see numbers as emotions.. Is that psychopathic
Emoticons*
13:16
for you, no, it's normal
user1804599
const lesErreurs = [];
@MadameElyse sounds good to me
Ven
Ven
const lesMiserables = []
user1804599
13:47
Did Curiosity find life on the mars?
work time
@jaggedSpire I'm so sorry :(
so naturally my only message this morning is the message to tell you guys I won't be messaging. That surely works
@Morwenn <3
13:57
<3
@Mikhail not yet ... we could put human on it then Curiocity would be able to find life on mars ...
Ven
Ven
Cicadadity
Curiocinch?
@TelkittytheWebDeveloper I am ready to fly
The code shown is half-antiquated. The sample are indeed a good place to start. Then, sample the Qi answers on Stack Overflow. Here's one relevant one: stackoverflow.com/a/32501979/85371sehe 34 secs ago
I get impatient with the lazy these days.
Just send water bears to outer space, they should be able to colonize anything.
Pretty much like the British empire back then.
14:04
:D
in The 2nd Monitor on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 20 secs ago, by sehe
Remember: don't actually kill the engineers before the post mortem
@Madara how do you pronounce הִקְלַטְתִּי ("I recorded")? "hik-lat-ti" with two distinguisable 't'-sounds?
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, that's the correct way
Cool, thanks.
As opposed to "I died", which is often misspelled as מתתי but is actually spelled as מתי with a dagesh in the ת, and is pronounced "Mati"
With the ת more pronounced
The difference is that in מתתי you have the same letter twice.
Whereas in הקלטתי you have טת
14:09
SSII headhunters, so lame hahaha
hey it's columbo
sup
My job title is "Android software engineer" or something in those lines. So every headhunter assumes that I do app dev while the job description I put explains that it's the least important part of the job. Yet I regularly get offers to do some grunt app dev here and there
@MadaraUchiha Oh, so tav-shva-tav usually merges?
Yes
This is true for all double letters with shva, if I remember correctly.
For example, קטנו (we grew smaller) should have been spelled קטננו (based on פעלנו)
14:15
Other combinations are probably rare, since most consonantal suffixes are with tav.
@R.MartinhoFernandes It happens when the בניין and the root letters share letters.
@AlexM. sup
So for פעלתי, if the ל is a ת, you'll see it.
For פעלנו, you get the same effect with נ
And so on
@MadaraUchiha Yeah, my point is that it is mostly tav. (nun-vav is the one exception I know)
@Columbo haven't seen you around in a while, went on holiday or sth? :D
14:17
Other than that one, all suffixes are either vowels or start with tav.
@AlexM. Nah, I just realized the Lounge is a waste of time
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, there's also תפעלנה, but yeah, mostly ת and נ
@AlexM. How have you been?
@Columbo How long did it take you to come to this obvious conclusion? :)
@MadaraUchiha Oh, that's high register, right?
Or something like that.
14:18
תפעלנה = future females third-person form of פעל
I have a mental note that it's not in common usage, but don't remember why.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Because no one bothers
@wilx No, I realized it is a mere waste of time. Before that I assumed that said waste of time had a higher accomplishment, e.g. relaxation…
They usually just go with יפעלו
@MadaraUchiha Nice.
Wanna test it. Anyone volunteering?
:P
@MadaraUchiha This is an english only chatroom thanks
no arabic please
That's not Arabic, quite obviously
looks like arabic to me
maybe lebanese
but definitely something from that area
It's Hebrew, asshat
14:25
that's not a language
it's a religion
user406009
I think it's time to bring out the lettuce grater.
It's the language you speak in hebreweries once you've drunk too many hebeers.
@AngryLettuce translate.google.com/#auto/en/… what's it say on the top-mid-left?
@R.MartinhoFernandes You were looking for a volunteer?
@набиячлэвэлиь French
14:26
@набиячлэвэлиь Feeding the trolls in inadvisable.
Except I can read french and that's definitely not french
@AngryLettuce :P
@набиячлэвэлиь It's Cicada trolling.
Nice.
@Angry I couldn't resist :P Come back!
Wait, 5 minutes?
Did they increase the timeouts?
I thought it was 30s for the first round.
Or one minute.
Something like that.
@Columbo good & stuff
He'll just take a fap break
user406009
@R.MartinhoFernandes He has already been kicked once today by Rapptz
@Rerito You mean, ten
14:30
@Lalaland Ah, makes sense.
dear lord
> > Angry Lettuce has been unjustly and forcefully pushed away from its natural habitat by <insert authoritary and arbitrary force of Evil here>
Didn't get kicked for years then twice in a day
what were the odds
better make this thrice!
sup lettuce, how dem iterators hangin'?
luc gracefully put his delicate forehead on my querry and magically solved the everything
jfc this bios is still retarded
double key presses
Ven
Ven
As an actual programmer interview question, I want people to write a class spork. He'll also have to write class spoon and class fork (and inherit from both obviously)
Ven
Ven
14:35
If they manage not to do during the coding session, they're hired.
@R.MartinhoFernandes is that a magic klingon rosetta stone on the left
inb4 getting kicked again
lol
@AngryLettuce I just wanted to test this chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/10?m=28193552#28193552. Didn't know you had a previous kick.
it's alright
user406009
Now we just have to wait for all the rest of the ROs to "test" that feature on Lettuce as well.
@AngryLettuce SoHvaD pagh vIjatlh, petaQ!
14:41
pls may I test
ITT Angry Lettuce gets permabanned in a testing accident.
@ElimGarak I recognize gaelic
@ElimGarak and people ask why he's angry
Unrelated: PetaQ sounds like a nice name for a supercomputer
let me trademark this before anyone notices
looks like some people made yet another mail client except this one is better because it's jabberscript
Lol true
14:51
> Why doesn’t this connect directly via IMAP & SMTP?

One of the key reasons we were able to develop this app quickly was that it uses the Nylas Platform APIs, powered by our open source sync engine. This moves the complexity of mailsync to the server infrastructure. N1 is compatible with the same providers as the Nylas Platform, including Gmail, Yahoo, iCloud, Microsoft Exchange, and hundreds of others.
WTF REALLY
wow so useless
is this an electron app again?
first time designing a RESTful api, it's so confusing
Yes.
> How does Nylas make money?

Nylas is building a next-generation email platform, and makes money by providing infrastructure and services. You can see a few of our customers on the Use Cases page.
"next-generation"
wait wtf
14:54
It's essentially GMail on Electron, AFAICS.
It's not a web client, and it uses Javascript
@R.MartinhoFernandes my thought
it's official guys, javascript is the new systems programming language
@R.MartinhoFernandes ah ok
So yeah, a mail client that can't talk to mail servers. Nice.
14:57
why do people like javaScript so much?
well, for one, I don't
@Mr.kbok WTF dude
Ven
Ven
Who does that?
@Rerito check out all the apps made with electron
@VillasV 1) Because they're idiots; 2) Because it's hipster; 3) Because it's mainstream; 4) Because it's the future.
14:58
I know that when you know a language is cool to use it whenever possible... but why javaScript? Historical reasons or is the language really that versatile?
2 & 3 are contradictory, and yet still true.
@R.MartinhoFernandes 2 & 3 conflict, 1 & 4 implies an idiotic future
what a time to be alive
user406009
@VillasV In all seriousness, JS is not that bad of a language once you use appropriate tooling.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Mainstream while giving a hipster feeling then :p

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