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@milleniumbug I once at uni and my friend was tasked to write a sorting function, he wrote a function that swapped two randomly selected items, printed "hope this is good enough", and since I was the geek guy in the group, I had to do everything
keep working on being smarter each day
You can also have a big cock and do porn.
@ElimGarak speaking of...!
@KhaledAKhunaifer rotflmao
@ElimGarak top kok
21:01
@milleniumbug Make things as simple as possible, but not simpler.
@ElimGarak do you have the props ready for the next scene yet?
I found a really nice pose on the sofa and I am majestically productive. These MBP keys are so soft!
@ScarletAmaranth @AngryLettuce will be joining us this time around!
@ElimGarak he will? does that mean I need to unplonk him in the lounge?
@ScarletAmaranth Why have you plonked our majestic Cicada? :D
You can also distinguish between inherent and accidental complexity. Inherent complexity is that of the problem you're trying to solved. Arbitrary complexity is well "everything else", you essentially want to reduce the complexity of the code down to its inherent complexity, over engineering adds accidental complexity which is undesirable.
i dont even know why im saying this to @milleniumbug, he was on my side of the argument xD
21:04
@ElimGarak I didn't even know it's Cicada; I appreciate the irony in it
@milleniumbug it was a challange, I have put the loop over user input .. the insructor said to us it doesn't sort the array, but I said give it enough clicks and hopefully it will get there
@KhaledAKhunaifer get a new job with better co-workers I guess.
@TonyTheLion that's my nickname
Alex 'top kok' M.
^ full name
@ElimGarak I have never observed Cicada to really do anything except pointless trolling
@Puppy It may be pointless, but it has entertainment value.
21:05
I can appreciate a good troll but there's a "good troll" and there is "being obnoxious"
if it was entertaining, it would not be pointless.
I like cicada, he's pretty cool for a troll
Cicada is gr8 <3
21:07
@Borgleader I tried to read that as "your mirror is stacked crooked"
@ElimGarak <3
> ☐ Commercial deployment ☐ In-house deployment, private use, or student use ☐ Open source distribution under a LGPL or GPL license
Why does Qt ask me this before downloading Qt Creator?
IIRC it's multi-licence depending on what you do with it
either gathering stats or different licensing
@Puppy As in one of more of the editions is paid for?
21:09
yes
Commercial you have to pay for
I believe they charge money for commercial use
> This commercial license keeps your code secure where only you control and monetize on your investment.
so... the other license steals my code or what?
@Xeo sergiu seems to keep on pushing VH videos including tutorials :D did you guys bribe him
21:11
@Borgleader It's bullshit, like Microsoft removing cracks and keygens "for your safety"
it's GPL, so yes it steals your code.
Eh fuck it then
Wellp, my mother's on duty tonight and she has some sort of international child abduction case and she might need a ride to the police station and I should be ready to pick her up because dad's away. So much for going to bed early today.
> So much for going to bed early today.
bruh I thought you'd end with "So much for getting drunk."
I am up since 3 am :(
21:14
oh wow
@ElimGarak I remember your saying that you don't drive tired
driving when tired is dangerous
@ScarletAmaranth That was probably "dive tried"
Well, TIL when a father without custody takes his kid across state lines from the mother, it's child abduction.
Dangering when drived is tiring?
21:16
Child abduction always sounds like something more extreme to me
Apparently I cant dl Minecraft Shadersmod, because the fucking site needs flash
fuck this bullshit
isn't there a way to enable flash on specific sites on demand
@ScarletAmaranth I am not really tired and it is kinda exciting
keep it disabled all the time except on those pages while you're doing things
but I'd rather sleep
21:18
@AlexM. I dont feel like enabling cookies and flash for a dl website
no shadersmod for you then mister borgleade
@AlexM. from omania
elim's name is longer and fits on one line
I only see ScarletAm
> Alum Robert R. Morris talks to Wired about Koko, a social network focused on mental health.
hey the facebook that's perfect for me!
@AlexM. are you on mobile?
@Borgleader I zoomed in because text and avvy were too small
21:23
@Borgleader heh
@TonyTheLion oh my :3
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lol, SQLite has only a single open bug report, and it's about documentation
Well, they managed to pull out three bodies out of the vehicle. One is missing, they'll search for it tomorrow.
yup. makes a lot of sense. Imagine the scene: dad shows up at school yard gate, puts kid into car and races off.
Or, dad gets the kid on a visit and never returns the kid. It's abduction clear and simple
21:39
@ElimGarak yikes
@sehe Yeah, the "kids" were communicating with the mother and the police, but they "don't know" where they are. They are pretty sure the father is sending false messages. As the divorce didn't finalize, they're trying to invoke the Hague convention right now, but it's tricky. To get an arrest warrant out.
@melak47 Yikes squared: A good friend of my family should've been in that car, but had a change of plans today. There's still a "traveling to" on the deceased girl's FB page with her tagged from yesterday.
guys what exactly is a flat
like, an apartment?
yeah
is it just a completely general term?
or does it imply like, 1 bedroom or studio or multiple bedrooms
@nick An apartment occupying a single level of a building, precisely.
21:44
it's a British thing apparently :D
@nick Your brain.
got it, thanks
@melak47 yeah haha
@user3886129 welcome back m8, you done with finals yet?
@nick Not yet.
Only German and Trig.
@nick the opposite of a sharp
Oh, wow. I haven't even thought about how shitty a day the recovery divers are having. It's freezing outside and they're looking for corpses 15 meters deep.
@ElimGarak Whoa.
I hate swimming in deep water :c
I start to drown in like 5 foot water.
As a cat, swimming isn't my favorite activity either
@user3886129 Hallo, wie gehts?
@TonyTheLion Mir geht es gut.
Und Sie?
:D
Mir gehts auch gut :)
Nicht, dass es jemanden interessiert, aber ich fühle mich gut, auch!
something something
21:54
:D Ja das ist sehr gut :D
Das erfreut mich sehr :)
ghosh its been a while since I last spoke German.
I've always disliked it. Spanish is way more fun. French, as well.
I was taught Spanish from 6th to 8th grade.
Forgot everything.
@ElimGarak this is weird. stop it, guys :p
22:14
Ich könnte deutsch reden wenn gewünscht
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Q: Test whether libstdc++'s version uses a C++11-compliant std::string

Nicol BolasI'm writing some C++11 code that makes assumptions about the nature of std::string that are valid, but represent behavior that was changed in C++11. In the earlier days, libstdc++'s basic_string implementation conformed to the 98/03 requirements, but not to the more strict C++11 requirements. As...

someone here might want to answer that /cc @Xeo @R.MartinhoFernandes
@Borgleader ghosh that would be an amazing place to live <3 <3
lets set up a business and just live there
:D
@BartekBanachewicz maybe @sehe knows?
I don't
Was worth a try
@sehe what implementations of std::string where out there where this assumption did not hold and under which circumstances?
or perhaps Bartek?
22:24
@TonyTheLion :D
@TobiasLangner I remember this:
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A: Is string::c_str() no longer null terminated in C++11?

seheWell, in fact it is true that the new standard stipulates that .data() and .c_str() are now synonyms. However, it doesn't say that .c_str() is no longer zero-terminated :) It just means that you can now rely on .data() being zero-terminated as well. Paper N2668 defines c_str() and data() mem...

@Borgleader :)
where is this?
I have no clue why this isnt parsing properly and 4min compile is annoying... what to do
@TonyTheLion no clue
@Borgleader awww.
@sehe thx alot
22:31
this should be sehes avatar
@JohanLarsson Because he doesn't change his alot.
> The Eilean Mor Lighthouse Mystery historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofScotland/…
there's an unfun explanation to it :<
> Lighthouse keepers constantly went nuts due to mercury poisoning from the fresnel lens lamps they used combined with isolation. It was a major issue for the USCG until a doctor took a look at the huge pool of mercury sitting under the lens. Here I'll save you all the trouble:
http://www.oldsaltblog.com/2014/03/mad-as-a-lighthouse-keeper-not-the-solitude-but-the-mercury/
well sung
donno what's she singing, but its in tune at least :)
she's pretty
22:44
that too :D
> 10/10 would Putin
first reddit comment on this video
I always wondered why C++ needed the final keyword. Now I know. It helps optimization.
@MadaraUchiha na puppy is just tsundere
@MadaraUchiha :D
22:49
@AlexM. Ba-baka, it's not like I'm actually a puppy...
@TobiasLangner It's introduced to stop Java and C# newbies from asking "how to forbid inheritance/why it's not possible"
@milleniumbug the usual way in C++ would be more arcane - don't make the destructor virtual.
Final Keyword XIII: Inheritance Returns
@TobiasLangner Doesn't actually stop inheritance.
22:51
Only leads to leaks
@набиячлэвэлиь no - but any sane static code analysis does
> >C++
> >sane
This fucking troll, man
I didn't say C++ is sane. Just the static code analysis
At least you're not dealing with Objective-C++14
@BartekBanachewicz I found a tab on the bottom of my mirror which I am stunned I didn't remember. I'm going to blame this on the fact that it is stiff and I thought it was part of the fixture. At any rate I tried it with some bright lights in the background, and...it appears to distort the reflection. I felt around for other bits on it, and couldn't find any. I'll probably pull the owner's manual out when I get back home--I'm on vacation now.
22:53
PHP/Objective-C++14 <3
user1804599
Android is the drain of software development.
@Elyse how come?
Android never comes, it is just futile vigorous fapping with no end in sight.
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@milleniumbug You make me sick
WTB Vulkan on OS X
22:56
@Borgleader :3
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@Borgleader :D
sup Jagged :)
@ThePhD lol
@TonyTheLion :) Hey!
I can't stay long, I need to do Christmas shopping
23:00
how have you been today?
@jaggedSpire rip :(
well hope you enjoy xmas shopping
@jaggedSpire I'm good. :)
@TonyTheLion what an excellent joke :P
@Borgleader u_u
@TonyTheLion That's good to hear! :)
Why don't you shop on Amazon?
@TonyTheLion I could, and I think I might do that for some of them
23:01
ah ok
frustration!
but I'm staying in one of the shopping districts in this city, so I may as well take advantage
Is it me or Pandoc's handling of language (lang) for LaTeX completely broken?
How was your day, @Borgleader ?
user1804599
omg Abe's Oddysee remake
23:02
@wilx Oh god that fucking thing
@jaggedSpire It is awesome, when it works.
you talking about in documentation math written in LaTeX?
oh wait you're talking about pandoc, not DOxygen. :P
@sehe just spent an hour wondering why it wasnt working, to realize a % b, expects at least one a
I read pandoc LaTeX and my brain jumped to insta-rage from my last experience with DOxygen's LaTeX math support. I eventually just wrote the doc in markdown with LaTeX math and converted with Pandoc
@Borgleader :) (-a) % b and -(a%b) are really common
23:04
@sehe cant the attribute of -(a%b) be std::vector<a> ? or do i need the former for that?
it can
left a link to it in the DOxygen docs and called it fine
awesome, thanks
@Borgleader you're talking about Spirit, aren't you?
@TobiasLangner yes
23:06
going to bed
night <3
good night Tony
@TonyTheLion night, sleep well
night bby
of the things that DOxygen does well, conveying proof that one algorithm for calculating something is mathematically equivalent to another is not it
@TonyTheLion night <3
kitties /cc @Borgleader @TonyTheLion @ThePhD @WGhost @набиячлэвэлиь
23:08
:3
I'll take the last one :3
Also, making RTS structures that visually fulfill their description and consolidate with the rest of the structures is the difficults
Real Time Strategy
I'm helping!
23:10
real time salesperson
so similar ...
I think the fluffy ears and shorter nose make all the difference, personally.
almost looks like raccoon is a untrustworthy version of red panda :P
good night
23:11
:P
not to be confused with fox hunting or faux hunting
though that second one isn't actually a homophone. :P
hmmm. faux hunting versus foe hunting
user1804599
Foxes are hilarious.
@Telkitty or the hard-boiled private eye version of a red panda. He's seen things.
that flinty-eyed stare
@Elyse yep
shopping time. :|
I think I found the issue (filled it on Github already). They wrongly assumed "cz" was the Czech language ISO 639-1 code when it is actually "cs".
I leave you all with this
user1804599
repost
23:17
@wilx that seems simple enough to fix, hopefully
@Elyse awh
darn
how about this?
@jaggedSpire That fox is not amused.
@wilx indeed not
this was what google image gave me, sorry @jagged :p
how punny :)
23:42
@ElimGarak <3 Skinner
fucking windows `10
keeps minimizing my full-screen games to bitch about updates.
@Puppy lol
user1804599
<expr> ::= <operand>
         | <operand> <binop> <expr>
user1804599
best grammar ever
user1804599
APL RULES
23:50
isn't that... like, you know exression grammar 101?
user406009
Darn, it's way to easy and temping to write line noise in Haskell.
user1804599
@sehe It's nice because all operators have the same precedence and associativity.
I should be able to test a new symbol table/ast with this
@Borgleader Why does your module still hold a vector of functions?

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