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Ven
Ven
15:00
Motion man, m-motion man!
People would kill me for mentioning the remix.
Ell
Ell
@Puppy yeh but you're an nvidia fanboi innit
@Ell Didnt their latest GPU drivers cause cards to overheat?
(also their CPUs are still shit)
so im not sure what kind of improvement youre referring to
15:10
@BartekBanachewicz Perfect practice makes perfect.
Ell
Ell
@Borgleader for some people yeah
But if we ignore that :P
I'm talking about their open source equivalent to gameworks
@Ell "if we ignore that their shitty code can ruin hundreds of dollars of equipment"
how about no
@caps yep
@Ell too bad their products don't
@Ell that has nothing to do with AMD being objectively shit
guys I need a hat
someone let me borrow theirs
I'm pretty sure that Mali makes better GPUs than AMD at this point
15:18
Anybody here going to see Star Wars?
user1804599
No.
user1804599
We hate Star Wars.
@AngryShoe not me, I can't watch it, tried often
it's just too archaic for me
@AngryShoe me I guess
@AlexM. lol are you 13 or what
I bet you only play games like CSGO and new witcher because the older games "were worse"
@BartekBanachewicz Do you know the date?
Like are you going before the 21st?
15:19
@AngryShoe I might.
A friend of mine said something about having a premiere ticket
You are not going to spoil it, right?
of course I am going to spoil it
@AngryShoe 19th
killing off EU made me mad enough
Ven
Ven
@AngryShoe seems like it
15:20
@AngryShoe hmm now I'm thinking that I should go
@AngryShoe I will
Jefff, did you seriously just...?
@bitcode lol, depends on your perspective- genetically 50% but I can't speak a word of anything other than english
@набиячлэвэлиь yea he plonked everyone
why is everyone angry nowadays
15:24
@AngryLettuce this was me a couple months before i found myself unemployed
Ell
Ell
@borg Nvidia drivers have caused overheating in the past too (on multiple occasions), cut them some slack ;)
@Mr.kbok because we enjoy it
@Ell I find it interesting you respond to 'it's a shitty product" with "but the otters are shitty (too? :P)"
Ell
Ell
I'm talking about the company also
you're a shitty product
Ell
Ell
15:26
Well, products to come really
Ven
Ven
@AngryShoe did u plonk meh
@nick
@AlexM. I meant the namechange
yes
it is me
yes it is u
15:28
@набиячлэвэлиь he changes names all the time
should I change my avatar to something like rapptz's?
@AlexM. Not to "angry shoe" he doesn't
What
I plonked nobody
Ven
Ven
rip plonkeroo :(
I just opened the door to the plumber, jesus
Ell
Ell
15:29
Hmm where to get my calc stickered
You guys are a little uptight
you lie
you lie jifori
liar
@Ell I'm just saying, you're claiming "improvements" and I dont see them. Is all. And its not like Nvidia has nothing interesting coming either. Pascal architecture should be nice.
anyway
Do you know how to handle users who change their names often?
ban them!
15:30
Yes, you bookmark their profile
Ell
Ell
@Borgleader yeah I'm speaking about products to come and improvements in the company itsself
you change their names to Jefffrey?
.signature.user-4251625 .username::after { content:" (A.k.a. Wes)";}
A bit of CSS magic
or you remember their mannerisms
@MadaraUchiha nice
Ell
Ell
15:30
Hence "now we have to wait to see if they fulfil their promises" or w.e. I said after
@MadaraUchiha what is this web dev sorcery
you script kiddies and your web browsers
Ell
Ell
@Borgleader I agree that ATM nvidia beats AMD at the highest end
15:31
@MadaraUchiha Beautiful
@MadaraUchiha that's actually great, how do I use it?
You install one of those plugin that allow custom CSS in certain domains
@nick Put it in a userstyle
i assume this isn't like a greasemonkey thing
Ell
Ell
But there are certainly price points where AMD beats nvidia
15:32
Stylish on FF
Stylish on Chrome
@Ell like making hardware for consoles?
meh, I like the mystery
I <3 Stylish.
15:33
this would make cicada 10% as fun
Ell
Ell
@AlexM. Like $200
I CBA to have a war man
Can't I voice my appreciation of something without having to defend it? :P
lol I lost the "price points" part along the way
IRTA "there are certainly points where AMD beats nvidia"
lol what is money
Ven
Ven
what is luv
@Ell if you appreciate shit, you should expect harsh opposition
15:37
@Ven we should find out
FWIW I'd still consider Mac Pro but that's just because Apple has higher quality standards for their drivers
guys did Cicada die overnight or what
I can't seem to ping
Ven
Ven
he's cinching.
rip
Xeo
Xeo
@nick Wrong nick?
15:39
Maybe he's @user5656558?
@nick Simplest way is to use an extension like Stylish
doubt it
@Xeo he's the right nick
Xeo
Xeo
lol
@MadaraUchiha well there's no way they'd let him change names like 4 days after a mod set it
15:39
No, he's still AngryLettuce
I can ping him
oh what
try pinging chi-kada
refreshed and it works
every time I don't see auto-complete on people's names I get worried
@nick What? a mod set someone's name?
after all the drama we've had recently
all the people we've lost
rip scott w
@caps yeah he got in a bit of trouble and was userXXXXXXXXX for a day or two, then got Jon or someone to change it
15:41
Scott is alive and well
@nick Where'd he go?
@caps yeah he got in a bit of trouble and was userXXXXXXXXX for a day or two, then got Jon or someone to change it
@caps he died
in a tragic incident involving a smurf
I should change my name to "Angry Поле"
Wah, the last Windows update actually added a usable GUI to edit environment verbibols :o
@MadaraUchiha wow
15:43
Oh, are the mods cracking down on chat smurfs now?
lol dude
did you miss like the past 2 weeks
or 3?
I've been around.
But I haven't been following super-close.
That is, I'm here most of the time, but I only glance at the chat log occasionally.
I know about all the culture-conflict between the mods and the lounge.
well tl;dr someone flagged something, someone got banned, people got mad, meta drama, more people banned, etc
I've followed sbi and Jerry's posts.
alright whew
15:45
On meta.
@madara one day you should get on mumble
when it's active, which is rare
@AngryLettuce lol I just set up a BabelJS transpilation build step for my current project
Who's TGOM?
The Grand Old Meta?
Xeo
Xeo
ape
Why does TGOM == ape?
the good old man?
15:53
Sounds a bit overstretched
Xeo
Xeo
The Grumpy Old Man
That's what he had in his chat profile a long time ago (or maybe still has)
Xeo
Xeo
> about I'm The Grumpy Old Ape
tgoa
goat
Grumpy Old Ape, The
16:02
Oh, didn't know sbi was forgetful.
Xeo
Xeo
He forgot to change the topic when he was owner a few days back
Ell
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz I thought apple had terribad gpu drivers?
Don't they only support opengl 3.1 or sthng?
does vs2015 work on xp?
plz
16:06
@Dean What are you doing on Windows XP
okay, install the ctp
its 2015 mate
@Borgleader my company sucks balls
and they love xp
I think he is just trolling
unfortunately not this time
16:07
my company uses windows millenium
can I install node.js on it
inb4 crysis
I think STL mentioned that they were still trying to get MSVC to be XP-compatible and that it took many resources that they coud have spent on something else.
you can still target xp
@Morwenn He also said they have to dynamically select impls, so you lose performance
16:09
@Mr.kbok No, it's buggy
@набиячлэвэлиь Time to drop the support then :D
@Morwenn w/e, stop using MSVC in the first place
I don't use it.
I should stop 1) Using xp 2) Use msvc
3) Use C++
emacs
16:11
4) make use of drugs
Ell
Ell
Is there performance cost in correct branch prediction?
@caps Teplated using-decls inside a funciton
@Ell No
@набиячлэвэлиь You can't do that inside a function??
Ell
Ell
so there shouldn't be a performance impact on dynamically selecting impls
16:14
@Ell negative cost, usually
@milleniumbug nodejs is buggy? lol
@caps where's ConstructorThrower ?
@Ell Calling pointers instead of hardcoded symbols has an impact
@caps Apparently
@Dean Typo.
@набиячлэвэлиь Dang. You're right. It "works" now. coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/1f72c669ab3a59b3
@caps g++ tells: error: a template declaration cannot appear at block scope
Whe in doubt, switch compilers.
It works both ways.
16:16
@caps no local templates
Ell
Ell
@набиячлэвэлиь so you mean dynamic vs static linking?
@Ell I don't know!
Ell
Ell
dynamic library is usually dynamically linked, isn't it? (so you're using pointers anyway prolly)
I'm just saying things and hoping they make sense
@Ell he means like virtual function calls, I think
@набиячлэвэлиь Y U DO DIS?
@Ell They are (AFAIK) resolved by the runtime linker, so it's the loading that takes the most time
@Morwenn Huh, I thought coliru was g++
> runtime linker
wtf
Oh weird, it was set to clang.
Ell
Ell
ld.so or something such he means
16:18
@caps Look, the link you shared used clang++.
@Ell There's opportunity cost (i.e., the chip area that was devoted to branch prediction that could otherwise have been used to do something else to improve speed).
@TonyTheLion ISTR someone talking about it here
@Morwenn Yeah, you're right.
Thanks guys.
@JerryCoffin Where'd you get that dope-ass hat, mate?
Ell
Ell
I can't see any hats
Ell
Ell
I can't see any hats
@набиячлэвэлиь At least 5 upboats with no submarines for a day.
Well phrased
@JerryCoffin Received or given?
Ell
Ell
@JerryCoffin I think you mean "At least 5 upboats with no u-boats for a day"
@Ell 4.0 on new GPUs. And "new features" isn't the only measure of quality
16:22
@Ell It would be racist if they took the language of the submarine into account.
@Mr.kbok WinME is
Also that was a joke
@nick you're dead to me
I remember this weird show where third or half of Earth's population just disappeared. Was it worth watching?
Do they ever reveal what has happened, why the people disappeared?
@набиячлэвэлиь Received.
@milleniumbug I thought of a joke like "nah, nodejs is too buggy"
16:25
Well, shit. I ain't gon' get 5 upboats in a day
@nick as in fired because of that?
I goat the cute boat with no upvoate.
upvoatse.cx
@nick omg r u Vlad
@nick o.O
16:30
@набиячлэвэлиь He can't be; I'm Vlad.
Vladdemort
5
I thought I was Vlad.
22 hours ago, by набиячлэвэлиь
A Vlad is defined by its employment status
All y'all can be Vlad
@набиячлэвэлиь Nonsense! To be a Vlad, you have to have at least visited Russia.
When you're a Vlad, Russia comes to you.
16:33
@JerryCoffin Or at least read Cyrillic
@набиячлэвэлиь That may give you the brain of a Vlad, but to achieve the true heart of a Vlad, you must experience Vladness (Vladity?) in person.
Vlalidation
@Mikhail Sorry, but no: we cannot Vladidate your parking.
@Elyse think date ranges for version history tables or validity periods
how contextually appropriate
bbl
@sehe Vladidity periods? Now that's a new angle: his her behavior is due to PMS.
16:45
Where is Nooblet?
> Restart setInterval each minute
I swear JS question titles are getting funnier each day
> JS
everything has been said
lol plz not language elitist BS again
says the guy who always talks about Haskell like there's nothing better out there.
> language elitist BS
16:46
@BartekBanachewicz What sort of BS would you prefer today?
BS on a silver platter please
@TonyTheLion I haven't opened my mouth about haskell for like a week here but yeah nice way to avoid any criticism
oh my
lol
@JerryCoffin mmm
From time to time, companies may sell you actual fucking bullshit, which is pretty awesome.
16:48
I could get into Apple vs Non-apple debate today
Pear's way better.
4
Q: Mac vs PC for music production

Eric Daniel PennachiniI'm a musician and occasional composer, and a Windows PC user. I've heard a lot of times about benefits of using a Mac for these purposes. But I wonder: what are these "benefits"?

Audi vs Volkswagen for turnip culture
Aulos vs. Yamaha vs. Zen-On for alto recorders.
16:51
@AngryLettuce neither because all that smoke won't do the turnips any good
AYY
lol flags
passed because JS room
:grin:
top kek, it won't even post the flagged message in here
time to recompile the kernel
16:53
@BartekBanachewicz For music production, you can get Reason for either Mac or Windows, so the platform's almost completely irrelevant.
@Morwenn Mollenhauer-Denner.
I think my soprano recorder is a Mollenhauer.

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