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7:00 AM
(the variables are protected)
should i just use if else statements for each variable?
 
Or you could have a map string -> pointer to member
 
how would that look? sorry im new to c++
pointers have proven to be a difficult part of it heh
 
lol
 
._. bows head
haha, thanks why though?
ah ok hehe
ill try to play with some pointy pointers then :D
<3
night!
 
oh um
when I was using function templates I sometimes overloaded on template arguments
e.g. invoke(f, x) and invoke<R>(f, x)
that doesn’t work with Niebler-style functions though, and as I remarked earlier I kinda decided to have both invoke(f, x) and invoke_as<R>(f, x)
an alternative is invoke.as<R>(f, x) though
thoughts? you can bikeshed the as, too
if you want to support blah(invoke.as<R>, …) then decltype(invoke)::as has to be a Niebler-style function as well (our former invoke_as in fact), so it’s actually not much of a difference
it’s more about organisation, where the names live etc.
 
7:16 AM
what's the invoke_as
 
leaves a lot to be desired by cppreference standards actually
@GregorMcGregor Does INVOKE ring a bell?
why do I ask these questions ._. of course it doesn’t
 
never seen that before, no
 
and there’s no std::invoke that I can find on Coliru either
 
I mean I understand the goal behind invoke but not the _as
Is it to call the function at a specific inheritance level?
 
there are two variants of INVOKE, in one you specify the return type
e.g. INVOKE (f, 1, 2, 3) but also INVOKE (f, double, 1, 2, 3)
 
7:20 AM
ah okay
 
hey I’m reasonably sure that used to work at some point
 
Is that a future feature? INVOKE looks ugly af
 
anyway the straightforward way to transcribe that in C++ (imo) was to overload on the template arguments
 
Hi guise
 
@GregorMcGregor INVOKE is a pseudo-codeish standardese device, std::invoke would be its implementation in the stdlib
i.e. ever since C++11 some parts of the Standard library have been specified in terms of a very useful pseudo-function… that doesn’t exist, for no good reason
and if you wanted to emulate the Standard behaviour of those parts you’d have to implement INVOKE from scratch as well
 
7:24 AM
@Rerito you missed the whole episode of goodiness
Whole 8 hours
 
@GregorMcGregor INVOKE is what makes this work
for shits and giggles I actually tried with std::async first but that makes both libstdc++ and libc++ whine
 
Xeo
oh wtf is with that meta thread...
 
src Who wanna exchange Magikarp for Pidgeot?
 
@chmod666telkitty What was it? :p
 
@LucDanton cassert a rien !
lol sehe's post is in the negative
despite it being neutral, factual, and constructive
vOv
 
7:33 AM
Link plz
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that can be parsed in at least two ways
 
sloppy modding does not work well with world class pedants.
 
the name is less stupid right?
 
marginally
 
7:36 AM
it seems not terrible
tbh
 
this joke is accessible to unprofessional™ users only
 
never mind
I looked at how to make packages
that was shortlived
 
@LucDanton 7/10
 
this is the least pythonic API I've seen
I hate python APIs that are essentially "use python as a config"
there are specific variable names and everything
this is dumb
 
@ShotgunNinja Mos Eisley on Stack Exchange?
 
> Any advantages compared to biicode?
1) It's not dead
 
@Rapptz but you call Ninja through Python #surprised
 
2) it supports boost lol
 
lol
 
@chmod666telkitty Oh right, some Lounge crisis occurred it seems
 
7:44 AM
Hi peeps. Back among the living. Well. Half
Set-back: kids are in school now, but I can't go back to sleep. New kitchen will be delivered anywhere today.
 
Even in New-Zealand?
 
@sehe Oh that's one of this wonderful times, like when the electricity company tells you a tech guy will come between 7-12 and the dude comes casually at 12:15 :')
 
> Why I Still Use Python for High Performance Scientific Computing
"because I am a baddie"
> Why isn't Haskell, or any other functional language, popular for this sort of thing? Turning A into B is what FP excels at, and you shouldn't have to reason about side effects
 
We'll see. I might fall asleep. But I really want to write that meta post, and if I don't it would be ... much later.
 
TIL FP is very efficient at turning A into B
why am I reading honker news
 
7:47 AM
How's it going with the crazy flatmate?
 
looks like compilers have shoddy support for member variable templates
> error: 'bar' is not a member template function
GCC’s error
 
@jaggedSpire Great gesture. I suppose I could also call upon you guys more directly. Thanks
 
You know at some point the GCC devs will implement a "fuck you Luc" error message
 
GCC actually used to complain when using a variable template in a call expression, I’m going to double-check then file
 
wow what time is it for you guys? its 1:48 here
 
7:49 AM
@GregorMcGregor I don't dare star it until the things are over.
@Nathan 8:49am
 
@sehe suspend me!
 
I slept. For nearly 2 hours
 
@sehe European I'm guessing?
 
@GregorMcGregor See, I even had a Freudian stress slip
@Nathan Yup
 
@sehe what country? :P
 
7:50 AM
Europe
 
@sehe If you need to stay alert and awake, a little exercise might help
 
rerito pushing the fitness agenda
 
@NathanTuggy I will not withdraw that point, as it is clearly an arranged, that these messages clearly refer to. Also, the arrangement itself was clearly not made in the lounge (hence you find it ambiguous) and we've objected about that at the time. I might withdraw it if either JonClements or Mysticial says I misrepresented it. (Making sure they see this now). — sehe 25 secs ago
fyi /cc @JonClements @Mysticial
 
I don’t think there’s room in the syntax for a.b<int> actually
yup, nevermind it’s a bust folks
 
@GregorMcGregor I should become some fitness coach or something
 
7:54 AM
dun nun nun nun nun
 
@Nathan the Netherlands
 
 
@LucDanton no you're not, but that isn't newsworthy, so they'll ignore it
If they ignore it, it doesn't exist
 
@sehe Yes he is
 
8:09 AM
removing EnableIf/DisableIf from code is reasonably satisfying
 
@GregorMcGregor You know. That's tiring. Do you actually think it's funny (enough)?
> @VitaliyMSFT You left the account credentials in the sample code. I can hardly believe that was on purpose.
CLIPPY: "It looks like you're trying to manage a project as open source. Would you like help with that?"
 
@sehe It's not a joke
 
@GregorMcGregor I'm listening
 
Fact: Luc is constantly bitching about C++ and whatnot.
 
See it was a joke.
Well. I'm not in the mood
 
8:13 AM
Yes but I made it last a few messages more
Always worth it!
Lighten up sehe
All this is extremely petty
 
I'm having trouble understanding what could have brought such havoc here
 
You've been on the internet long enough to realize that all online quarrels are futile, I believe
 
@GregorMcGregor It's not. Real feelings got hurt. Real online reputations get damaged. Real repercussions are possible. Also, real joy has been thwarted
 
Well I don't share any of that sentiment
 
Now with concepts I can actually have (fairly easy) conditional-explicit, but I find myself not caring. Because in a generic context e.g. return foo_type { std::forward<Args>(args)... }; I still have to explicitly construct. cc @R.MartinhoFernandes @Xeo
 
8:15 AM
See, Luc keeps on being problematic
 
@Rerito For me, it's serious because Brad made it personal. I feel compelled to respond. Because I don't want anyone thinking "I condone rape jokes". That had me shocked and it matters to me.
Say what you will. That's me
 
@sehe Well I think everyone who knows you just a little can figure that out in a whim
 
Then take a break and come back when you realize the utter unimportance of all this
 
For the rest, I think it's petty indeed
@Rerito That's the problem. Not everyone knows me / can know me
@GregorMcGregor I might try that. Hrrrmmpfff. It's hard /cc
 
Just put things into perspective sehe, you're one of the more matures here
 
8:17 AM
and rightfold
 
@sehe you’re doing it #wrong
 
I know that. Which is why I hate being treated like this. I wonder how @JerryCoffin has been feeling about that. He's ... even more mature :)
 
morning
 
@LucDanton You're right #no-kidding
@JohanLarsson it's so easy to score.
But actually reaching balance is the goal. Should be the goal.
 
if you choose to mix the two I won’t mind
 
8:19 AM
Livecoding silently released HTML5 streaming clients (you don't have it from me).
 
don't understand the score remark
 
It's encrypted in SEHE-512
 
You're well known on SO proper @sehe, I didn't read the full transcript but I cannot get how this could have gone this far in the first place
 
@Rerito internet
 
@JohanLarsson Ok, in that case:
@JohanLarsson what do you mean?
 
8:22 AM
that rightfold is not always very mature
 
Wow, I didn't realize the lounge is so unpopular on SO
That meta post
 
user1804599
Hello.
 
user1804599
@Rerito Which one?
 
user1804599
Tell Santa; he'll put Bjarne on the naughty list. — Elyse Nov 9 '14 at 15:24
 
user1804599
8:27 AM
My favourite Stack Overflow comment.
 
@LucDanton liked it that much eh
I guess it's your guilty pleasure #noshame
 
@Rapptz have you ever seen hashtags used in SO comments before?
 
nope
 
isn’t it the best thing ever? #hashtag
 
8:30 AM
my girlfriend might be cheating on me, how do I unit test her?
 
@Snowman, the whole thing is misogynic of the worst kind and dudes are like "please, explain what's wrong with it?"... highly toxic tire burn indeed — brasofilo 5 hours ago
look what you made me do @LucDanton
:(
I was looking for the comment and I was skimming and lo and behold I get this steaming pile of turd.
 
Xeo
Brad's answer there is just... wtf.
> completely inappropriate conversation
But apparently I need to check myself, because seemingly all of meta thinks so too.
 
I never go to meta but I have a feeling they all wear bicycle helmets and bake their own bread and recycle.
 
Jerry's answer is at -8 lol
 
@JohanLarsson baking bread is fun
 
Xeo
8:34 AM
It's pretty ridiculous, I find.
 
Posting answers on meta is just going to lead to people downvoting you for defending yourself.
 
Xeo
I do have a feeling it has to do with the fact that "it's The Lounge again". In any other room, that message would've been overlooked.
 
Yes, I think that is it entirely.
 
user1804599
@Test
def startStop() = {
  implicit val context = ZMQ.context(1)
  val stop = relay.start("tcp://127.0.0.1:9998", "tcp://127.0.0.1:9999")
  stop()
}
 
@Xeo Yeah or quickly handled like "flagged/deleted, end of story"
 
user1804599
8:36 AM
This test takes a second to run.
 
It's the topic too. We're being portrayed as misogynistic and you know how popular "women in tech" as a topic is and how many white knights (sorry, lack of a better word) there are revolving around that topic as a whole.
 
user1804599
:(
 
Xeo
@Rerito No, it should never have been flagged or deleted.
 
As one of the only women in Lounge I can honestly say I do not find this room misogynistic at all
 
I've read Jerry's joke and moved on instantly. How can people make such a fuss about something this petty
 
Xeo
8:37 AM
It's not even a joke, it was just a simple anecdote of how he feels about the topic, from what I can tell.
 
user1804599
@R.MartinhoFernandes I hate how people said the title at the time "mentioned genitalia". rightfold's vagina didn't exist back then (and still doesn't), so no genitalia were mentioned. :(
 
So, are we back to talking about dicks to get starred? :)
 
> It has "women" and "fuck". What more do you need???????? – Gregor McGregor 5 hours ago
as much of a joke this is supposed to be it's probably true imo
 
Or is the drama still going strong?
 
user1804599
women fuck
 
user1804599
8:38 AM
funfact ^
 
Xeo
@wilx It has apparently subsided, but it left a very bitter taste in many regulars' mouthes, I feel.
And I can totally get how @Cat is so pissed at them.
 
@Rapptz it's not a joke
 
user1804599
@TonyTheLion Maybe we should create a new room!
 
Its a sad story
 
user1804599
>++C<egnuoL
 
8:40 AM
@Xeo Yeah, had he worded it differently, it would have not started anything
 
I honestly think if he said "having sex" instead people would have ignored it.
 
Xeo
@Rerito No. That still implies that something is wrong with the original sentence.
 
I think that whatever triggered it should not have triggered it. It was retarded to ban/lock/whatever for what was said.
 
And iirc he actually did and no one cared.
 
Xeo
And I simply don't think so.
 
8:41 AM
@Xeo Don't get me wrong, I didn't get offended or something near that reading it
 
@LucDanton home made tastes good but much cleaning up after baking
 
@wilx yes
 
@Elyse Man, I wish paper could capture this image. I would print it and put it onto my cubicle.
 
user1804599
I wish I had a cubicle.
 
@Elyse Get work for less modern big corp. I.e., not Google! :)
 
user1804599
8:42 AM
IBM.
 
@GregorMcGregor Wait
so ARE you Cicada?
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
I don't want this. :P
 
Can you stop with this cicada nonsense already
 
Xeo
@Elyse Ew, single CRT monitors. Yeah, wouldn't want that either.
 
8:43 AM
Are you in love with her or what
 
Wait, it's a her?
what
 
Xeo
/clap @Gregor
 
Are you still discussing what happened yesterday?
Wel, it might not be yesterday for some of you.
 
user1804599
@VermillionAzure no, Gregor Park 'Cicada' McGregor-Young-Bae is a guy.
 
I have no idea what was going on
 
8:46 AM
@JohanLarsson oh I don't see how it could mean that, but thanks for clarifying
 
One second I think Cicada is living in Korea or something
 
@Morwenn it's yesterday for most time zones
 
the next he's a potato farmmer
and then now I dunno
 
 
@sehe was a lame joke
 
user1804599
8:46 AM
@wilx Gothic
 
@Elyse lol, is it? :)
 
user1804599
No, the sign says that.
 
@wilx ONLY two?
 
user1804599
I couldn't work in such a messy place though.
 
@VermillionAzure Yes. And only recently. I do not use the second one that much.
@Elyse Messy? :)
 
8:47 AM
@Morwenn Yes, and I still don't get it
 
@Xeo I've been checking myself until the puzzle fell together again:
 
@wilx TWOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
4 hours ago, by sehe
@Lalaland oh god. NOW I recall. And get why you posted that. That was the message?
 
@Elyse Oh, I see. That is my colleague's calligraphy.
 
Probably the other conversation - but similar mechanics
 
user1804599
8:49 AM
I'd make a picture of my workplace if I had a camera.
 
user1804599
The monitors are really nice.
 
user1804599
They float.
 
@Elyse Do you not have one on your cell phone?
 
@wilx you're pretty close to your monitors
 
He's monitoring them
 
8:50 AM
closely
 
@wilx Pretty clean desk
 
user1804599
@wilx I do, but it's worse than a potato.
 
@sehe The way I usually sit, my eyes are about 40 cm from the screen.
 
Mine is full of stuff (tea, cold medicines, tissues, food stuff...)
 
user1804599
And I don't know how to transfer pictures from my cellphone to my personal computer.
 
8:51 AM
@Rerito we've had enough of the hot medicine
@Elyse I hate that process too
 
@Elyse Are you really a developer of software? :) I used Imgur app for Android.
@GregorMcGregor :D
 
@sehe Quick, delete this before it gets flagged
 
user1804599
@wilx I don't use a smartphone.
 
user1804599
In fact, I wouldn't even mind my phone not having a camera at all.
 
@Elyse Why?
 
8:52 AM
Come on peeps let's try to stay a bit calm. It's not quite time start the frivolous jokes yet, is it
inb4 "you should chill"
 
user1804599
@wilx Because it's very expensive and distracting.
 
Weehoo I officially contributed to uBLAS now let's wait for the bug reports to start to trickle in
 
user1804599
Is Boost called Boost because it boosts productivity?
 
@sehe wow that’s hilarious
 
8:57 AM
 
@Elyse I think so.
 
@LucDanton I thought so too. Then again, I've made this mistake once before (wasted ~10-15 minutes in a livestream doing that. In my defense it was more complicated and I was refactoring container types)
 
@sehe lmao
 
Ven
Hi lounge
 
You've been here a while already. Hi
 

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