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8:06 PM
yall making me blush now :P
 
 
@nick Yes?
 
@VermillionAzure is there a good sign of copper poisoning?
 
I had this great name for my app
I need the koala stamp of approval
it's 'ionic'
 
@nick What's it gon' go?
 
8:11 PM
@nick Hmm.
 
A Unique Twist On The Classic Todo List™
 
May be confused with Ironic.
You need an app called todon't.
 
Both of those names are so overused
@nick AUTOTCTL
Aksolotl?
Aksolotl!
 
axolotl
 
8:19 PM
@Nooble I'd download that
IIRC, ionic is a JS framework
 
Ven
@Elyse so I was right in the end :(
 
You're quite unlikely to do better implementing the basics of mpi yourself. You're unlikely to do better than the gmp/mpfr backends, of course. Giving those a shot should certainly not prompt a sad-face-smiley. You can use the boost::multiprecision::number<> interface for all three of them. You can only win! — sehe 56 secs ago
@VillasV So, it's an ironic library for Asian markets? Bad pun alert
@Elyse deleting only invalidates references/iterators that point directly to the deleted nodes/elements
(Although, in thread safety, deletions are mutations, and need to be synchronized)
 
@sehe ._.
 
I tried. Both to achieve it and to refrain from posting.
 
@Nooble I was actually going to buy the ionic.li domain name
 
8:25 PM
I guess that makes it a double failure
 
@sehe A+ for effort though
 
8:40 PM
you guys are boring, or dead.
or both
 
i AM ALIVE
 
Congrats
 
That's quite surprising, indeed
 
does set::find return the single match if any?
 
8:53 PM
nice, I often miss that with .net hashset
 
@JohanLarsson It returns the first match, otherwise End
 
user1804599
@orlp ???
 
Oops. Just noticed you said "c++98", well, here you go: coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/977cf008bbbee0c2 fully last-decade-proof — sehe 17 secs ago
@VillasV ^
 
@Elyse ?
 
@Elyse That's sooooo annoying. You can talk you know
 
user1804599
8:54 PM
@orlp lolwut
 
@Puppy Wait, are you in love?
 
@sehe omg
 
@набиячлэвэлиь No such thing as the "first" match- in a set there can only be 1 or 0 matches.
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
@orlp This is the transcript.
 
8:55 PM
@VillasV It's basically s/x3/qi/ really
 
@Elyse oh lol
 
@Puppy Fuck, misread "set" as "std"
 
user1804599
Why is this?
 
you have some weird plugin
or I don't know why it shows like that
 
@Elyse Because you should not be followed
 
8:55 PM
either way, I was just trying to mess with you with a stealthping
 
user1804599
The only two plugins I have are AdBlock and Google Mail Checker.
 
chat.stackoverflow.com/… chat is very well programmed
@orlp it's not so easy
 
user1804599
Freenode is broken again.
 
some things in life are easy
 
Free things suck :)
 
8:57 PM
either way, this is a stealth ping
[​](http://@sehe)
[​] is not empty - that's a non printing space
 
I see. It's a very good variation on my pattern :)
Sadly it doesn't work well in rightfold-browser-land
 
those damn hackers, that's why we should ban encryption
5
 
well played
@orlp more like a very strange un-bearded lambda
 
 
@Elyse no repro
 
9:07 PM
I accept this answer since it's closest to what I had in mind despite not being the best way to go maybe. — oarfish 2 hours ago
lol
I wonder what kind of principles it takes
 
ego
 
well, it is the true answer to the question though
 
@sehe He essentially accepted that answer for showing that his approach wasn't completely faulty
 
Ell
> Deprecation ≠ Invalidity
 
@Columbo ego, yes
 
9:09 PM
@VillasV No
> [How] can this be done?
It is a right answer, but not "the true one"
And apparently not the best, either, but I won't touch that
 
@orlp you mindfucked me but I didn't say anything
 
@sehe Whatever, this is not the kind of question I care about anyway :-)
 
Well, the question is: is it possible to do X? How?
The answer is : Yes. Like this.

If that is the wrong thing to be done, its the answer to another question.
Although I'd upvote only your answer
 
orlp you lied
 
fail
@nick you failed to read
@VillasV precisely
 
9:12 PM
I'm here to lead, not to read
 
14 mins ago, by orlp
[​] is not empty - that's a non printing space
 
@VillasV As I said before: You wrote "it is the true answer to the question", it may be a true answer, but it isn't "the" true answer, and it shouldn't - on a basis of whether or not it provides a valid answer - be accepted
 
@nick that could be a problematic stance in a chatroom
 
Oh, ok. that's just epistemology
 
sigh
 
9:13 PM
@Columbo I think that's quite subjective. You're making it into a moralistic issue, and that's usually decided by "the community" on SO. Votes will tell
 
everything is terrible
 
who would ever lie?
 
awful people
 
a person
 
I think it's ok to accept that answer because it's very specific. The best answer possible would be that answer with yours as remark, I think.
 
9:14 PM
@sehe slow down man
 
^
 
don't overload me with all these details
 
Sorry.
You asked and thought, since I respect you as a person, you deserved an honest answer
 
@sehe As I said before, I don't care for this one anyway, and the last time I got pissed off by an unfair accept I actually got a gold badge, so whatever :D
 
@sehe to be fair, it was a long, thorough and elaborate answer
 
9:15 PM
Thank you
 
I voted on yours, because I vote in the thing that has more value. But I think its fine if the OP keep the other one as accepted. I see non-accepted answers having more votes all the time, and I usually pay more attention to them.
 
@VillasV …and that's simply a bad thing.
 
Nope
We're not here to make OPs do what we want.
 
whatever
 
@sehe Accepted answers that aren't the "best" ones are not a bad thing?
 
9:17 PM
Not at all
 
@Elyse Heh and now it disconnected me :v
 
the help page clearly says that OP chooses the answer that helps him the most
also this text from the "tour":
> Accepting doesn't mean it's the best answer, it just means that it worked for the person who asked.
 
Freedom is not a bad thing
 
ITT milleniumbug expert
 
9:19 PM
How SO wants SO to work and how SO works are two entirely different things
 
@sehe We're here to build and improve on a site that will help professional programmers get excellent answers quickly. A vital part of that is to ensure that good answers go top by responsible voting and accepting. Too often, that isn't the case, I'm afraid.
 
More drama, that'll help
Maybe you can raise it on meta. Propose a minimum rep before you can accept answers? ....
 
@sehe You replied. I regard SO as a kindergarden, anyway, so whatever.
 
@sehe USA! USA! USA!
 
@sehe No, but people with gold badges should be able to vote for acceptance/unacceptance of answers of correspondingly tagged questions.
 
9:21 PM
see, exactly my point
 
(I think. Might be wrong here :-) )
 
If the most voted answer will decide the final answer, i.e. the community and not the OP, then the whole point of having an "accepted answer" is useless.
 
@VillasV It is, to a certain extent.
I believe we simply shouldn't order answers by acceptance at all.
 
@Columbo We can already downvote the accepted answers. And we can upvote the best. I don't know what else we need (overruling the OPs accept is changing the meaning, and there's no way I can redefine "acceptance" to mean what it then means)
 
@sehe See above, what about acceptance not participating in the sorting?
 
9:23 PM
@VillasV No. It's the OP's "thank you" button, in a way. That's not useless. Many answers never get more than that one vote+accept
 
Would that be a solution?
 
Ell
ahh assignment specs not detailed enough :( what is a "word"? :S
 
@Columbo That's your preference already, I think
 
@Columbo well, that being said, I do pay more attention to votes than to acceptance. Still, I think its perfectly fine the way it is.
 
@sehe Is it? I sort by "activity"
 
9:24 PM
Sort by votes instead
 
@sehe true, but that could be replaced by "OP's upvote gives 25 rep instead" or something like that. What I mean is that upvote and acceptance have different purposes
 
@sehe Doesn't change anything, see e.g. this
I still get Alf's answer above mine
But whatever, who cares
 
Well. That means you'll have to scroll...
 
> That's your preference already, I think
 
@VillasV I agree it's different purposes. I think it would be perfect as it is, with less "bias" towards the accepted answer (e.g. in sorting).
 
9:26 PM
Your message kinda implied I don't have to
 
@Columbo I know what I say. Don't suggest that I "kinda imply" what I straight-up say. I can be misinformed, you know. Turns out I was.
 
arrrrgh Java collections are so annoying
 
@Borgleader Oi mate, that's one hell of a cunty desktop!
 
@sehe hmm, that might be possible. Hard to do in one column layout though... something is going to be the top answer.
 
9:27 PM
@sehe No worries. :-)
 
@Columbo Sounds like a good proposal, to me. They should be able to cater for it in the sorting prefs at least
 
Perhaps propose on meta that SO should be more configurable? Show top voted first or accepted first as default?
 
^
lol
We've reached really close consensus really quick there, and only 3s apart
 
That's how you make web devs happy, just ask for more features
 
@VillasV Because they love to deal with your shit
 
9:29 PM
Hahaha exaclty
 
> e2fsck -f -y -v -C 0 /dev/mmcblk0p2
/dev/mmcblk0p2 is mounted.
things are never simple T_T
y u do dis gparted
 
tune2fs or something, schedule for next reboot (or just unmount)
 
when i right click the partition i get no option to unmount
 
That's because it's flash/NAND memory, likely?
 
You can't portably take the address of member functions of standard library classes. The standard allows implementations to alter their signatures to their hearts' content as long as ordinary calls have the correct behavior. — T.C. 33 mins ago
 
9:31 PM
What kind of device is it? (A NAS box or game console?)
 
RPi2
 
ah
 
Taking pointer-to-member of standard libraries leads to UB?
 
@VillasV I think that's rubbish.
 
@VillasV he thinks that the functions can have additional defaulted arguments
 
9:33 PM
I think it's more like "member functions have overloads so often that it's impractical to use (and versions might break the usage)"
 
I don't think that's true
 
Prolbably MSVC's RogueWave lib impl does that
 
72
Q: Order highest upvoted answer before accepted answer

Nicolas HolthausOne doesn't have to look around SO very long before you find questions with accepted answers that are either dated to the point of being deprecated, or which were just flat-out wrong even in their own time. Often, there will be another, correct answer, and many times this answer has been upvote...

 
@sehe am I screwed?
 
@Borgleader no (well, maybe, but not in a way that I can detect just sitting here)
 
9:39 PM
idk why it didnt take the whole space in the first place =/
The sd card is 8GB and it only took <4gb
 
@VillasV No, but the type of the pointer-to-member you get is unspecified.
 
@Columbo why?
 
@VillasV See my comment:
@sehe [member.functions]/2. Footnote 188 is on point: "188) Hence, the address of a member function of a class in the C++ standard library has an unspecified type."Columbo 2 mins ago
 
hmm, that's strange
 
It's C++ :)
@Borgleader You can do it offline, but that'd probably require you to use the SD in another machine (can you?)
This is a major problem for outdated accepted answers. For example, super long, convoluted answers for low versions of Java are always on top when there's a one-liner in Java 7. Community votes usually end up supporting the more recent versions of Java, but users still see a 20-line solution from Java 3 on top, and I can imagine that a lot of new/anonymous users don't even bother scrolling down... — Chris Cirefice Jan 15 at 2:50
@Columbo ^ that's annoying indeed
 
9:46 PM
@sehe For users, it may have proven useful for devs though (I'm sceptical though)
 
Huh. I'm a dev. Of course it has proven useful (but this is the whole point: outdated answers are outdated)
 
You're not a dev until you've written Java 3 code
 
Apparently that's because of this
> An implementation may declare additional non-virtual member function signatures within a class: — by adding arguments with default values to a member function signature.
But I can't see the relation.
 
@sehe Another linux machine? Well technically I have a micro-sd to usb adaptor so I could plug it into my desktop. Idk if the Ubuntu VM will see it or not though
 
@Borgleader gparted comes on live-cds
 
9:48 PM
@Borgleader It will
 
@Borgleader VBox can (you may need to install the extension pack)
 
I,m using vbox, and the guest additions is the first thing i install everytime :)
 
@sehe Boost dev?
Or actual stdlib dev?
 
developer
 
@sehe I meant a standard library implementation developer
 
9:49 PM
@набиячлэвэлиь then I'm happy to report I'm not a dev (did Java 3 even exist? I thought it jumped to 1.4 at some point)
@Columbo derp. Then I'm >pretty sure< you didn't even read my comment there
 
I think that Java is 1,2,3,4,5,6 etc
it's the JRE that is 1.4, 1.5, 1.6, etc
 
I still don't know about a Java 3
 
@sehe LOL
 
I like this guy's idea
http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/283456/order-highest-upvoted-answer-before-accepted-answer#comment142911_283467
 
Apparently it exists J2SE_1.3_.28May_8.2C_2000.29 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
 
9:51 PM
I thought you replied to my quote of my comment
Sorry
 
:D
 
:D
 
:D
 
@Puppy Nah, they use only minor version for JDK/JRE too
Well, I guess it's major version for them
People are bad at versioning
 
@sehe It's in the inlined comment
So I just went with it
 
user1804599
10:02 PM
If you represent a timestamp using the number of milliseconds since the Unix epoch as a 64-bit signed integer, what's the maximum timestamp you can represent?
 
Maximum enough
 
user1804599
ok :3
 
user1804599
Nice.
 
user1804599
Thanks.
 
10:07 PM
ITT a shabby episode of "Dear Lazy Web"
 
@sehe oh TIL VBox ext pack is not guest additions. installing now
 
:D
 
the wind blew the glasses right off my face
 
You don't need them :)
 
10:18 PM
Time to increase resolution to picoseconds
 
@Puppy You now see in low res?
 
yeah
on the bonus side, it was dark, raining, and they blew on to a busy road.
retrieval not going to happen
 
oh.
Current status
Looks like I'm finally going to use Vagrant for something
 
Worth a shot
 
10:24 PM
> In Sabayon everything should just work
> >Linux distro
> >just work
 
@sehe Seems to have worked
 
> OS family Linux (based on Gentoo Linux)
Well, that's good
You finally Installed Gentoo
 
4.3GB available, partition extension successful :)
 
@TonyTheLion hi sweetheart <3
 
10:31 PM
hi baby <3
how are you today?
 
im ok, i did a thorough cleaning of my room and watched X-Files
 
X-files :)
nice
 
@TonyTheLion Did you bang yet?
 
@набиячлэвэлиь bang?
 
@TonyTheLion Yes, @Borg
 
10:33 PM
lol
@Borgleader what season of x-files are you watching?
 
ohhhh
cigarette smoking man involved yet?
 
Sortof kindof
 
oh the guy that plays CSM is a Canadian
TIL
William Bruce Davis (born January 13, 1938) is a Canadian actor and director, best known for his role as The Smoking Man on The X-Files. Besides appearing in many TV programs and movies, Davis founded his own acting school, the William Davis Centre for Actors Study. In his personal life, Davis is an avid water-skier, lectures on skepticism at events such as the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry's CSICon, and advocates for action on climate change. In 2011 Davis published his memoir, Where There’s Smoke .... The Musings of a Cigarette Smoking Man. == Early lifeEdit == Davis was born in Toron...
 
10:37 PM
He cant be canadian, he's an asshole :P
 
heh
so if I wanted to visit Canada, which parts would be the nicest to visit for a tourist that's never been?
 
I heard Lake Louise is pretty nice
never been myself
 
Looks nice enough on Google
Would go
 
Maybe @EtiennedeMartel has other suggestions
 
Ell
my timer gives negative time :V ah why
 
10:48 PM
oh Ell :P
 
Ell
maybe it's because I'm doing my_double = (myuint - hisuint);
 
2 bed flat - 65 sq metres - 390,000 GBP
lol
wtf
 
@TonyTheLion 65 sq meters !?!?
missing a 0 there are you?
that seems outrageously expensive though
 
2nd tab is floorplan
 
Ell
> London
 
10:55 PM
oh wait, no
that makes sense
i was thinking in ft for a second there
i was like 65 sq ft is a broom closet
 
oh lol
 
still its expensive as hell
even the ones i was looking at werent this expensive
 
that's 6000 GBP per square meter
 
almost have as much for equivalent space
(single bedroom though)
 
hey guys
anyone here know c or hlsl syntax?
having some difficulty with a compute shader i'm trying to write
 
10:58 PM
knowing C syntax and knowing compute shaders are two totally different things
 
hlsl and c are pretty similar though right?
or am i over generalising
 
they are similar, but my point is someone who knows C wont be able to help you with compute shaders
 
sorry im a c# guy ... never really needed to get this low level until i started on this stuff
 

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