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5:00 PM
> It resulted in such bad damage to the ship that the vessel had to be scrapped
And they... Fired him? And not, like, publicly executed?
 
Ell
well that won't solve anything
 
@TonyTheLion OLD
@JerryCoffin it ended weakly
 
Well, it's only some 130 meters in length, so it shouldn't be too expensive. The 400 meter ones are up to $200M a pop.
 
if (WAIT_TIMEOUT=WaitForMultipleAnnoyingObjects(mods,604800000)) then
begin
ShitPosting.Resume;
end;
 
how long is your shitposting resume
 
5:12 PM
@LucDanton Now zero \o/
 
Ell
now to figure out how to use git cherry-pick :D
 
You call it, it cherry picks, done
It's somewhat like discussions in Lounge
 
@ElimGarak o_0
@MartinJames what did you do? you are only showing 1 rep?
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus I thought I was supposed to do the cherry picking
 
@thecoshman I failed to be economical with the truth re. bad SO questions. Posters, and SO mods, cannot handle the truth:(
 
5:20 PM
@ElimGarak it doesn't matter. If the cost to repair is more than the cost of a new one, why repair it? You even have to consider that if it's old, it's value is not the same as a new one.
 
Lets take the example some of the codes like the following use objects but can access their members directly without using any '.' operator What? — Borgleader 5 secs ago
 
@thecoshman I'm sure my rep will be along, presently.
 
@Ell It applies a single chosen commit on top of HEAD, not sure what's to figure out there
 
@Borgleader ->
 
Ell
oh
then it is not what I want
 
5:21 PM
It is still damage in the millions, though. I am curious what is going to happen to the schmuck, if anything.
 
@MartinJames What I think he's asking is that you have a struct with say a member foo, and whenever you use an instance of that struct it uses the member foo implictly. Which is dumb as shit
 
Ell
balsamic vinegar best vinegar
 
Ell best Ell <3 :D
 
Nov 3 at 19:36, by Morwenn
Too much balsamic vinegar :(
 
@Borgleader Oh.. like a default member/property.
 
5:24 PM
So, I just read the script summary of what should've been Fallout 3 during Interplay's tenure with the IP.
 
Ell
@TonyTheLion best Tony <3
 
@CatPlusPlus can't you cherry-pick a range?
 
Maybe, probably
But you probably shouldn't
 
5:26 PM
like most things :P
 
Ell
apparently I want to git checkout :V
 
You probably shouldn't be doing that either
 
@ell let's stop the XY and just say what you want to do
 
Ell
Sorry mum
 
5:28 PM
@AndyProwl people only say that when they haven't got much
 
Ell
@thecoshman I want to merge feature-branch into master. apart from main.cpp
 
Wait, what -> 9 reputation @MartinJames :D
 
@thecoshman Indeed
 
@Ell Why did you change it then
 
@ElimGarak I got suspended for a week and the DB has not yet caught up:(
 
5:30 PM
Just merge without committing and then revert changes to that file
 
@MartinJames What did you do?
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus I was using for testing features on feature branch
 
@MartinJames dahell, why were you suspended?
 
That way you don't lose merge metadata at least
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus okay good idea
 
5:30 PM
:snackoverflow:
 
@Ell if those changes to main.cpp are mixed into commits, you have a mess to resolve
oh yeah, cat's idea will work simply enough
 
@Borgleader There's no such thing as too much balsamic vinegar--only balsamic vinegar that hasn't been aged long enough.
 
@Ell I was too honest when commenting on bad questions:) The mods don't like 'i++ + ++i' being described as 'Trash code'.
 
Ell
@MartinJames Oh dear
silly mods
 
Most mods have gained their rep and status on frivolous tags.
 
5:32 PM
another option is go through those commits and retweak them to not have those changes, bot you can only really do this if your haven't shared those commits
 
@Ell Imma changing my name to 'Martin from Moscow'
 
Ell
haha
 
I thought about Elim from Cardassia
 
@MartinJames shouldn't that be 'Vartin'?
 
@thecoshman Yeth.
 
5:33 PM
Fartin
 
Fartin' all the way to the bank
 
@MartinJames and you got suspended for that? Gosh
Andy from Andorra
 
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 \___  /  (____  /__|   |__|
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oh my
 
@AndyProwl That, and all the other so-called 'rude' responses.
 
5:33 PM
oh, ok
 
:cockoverflow:
@MartinJames lol rude
 
@TonyTheLion ikr :(
 
well done @tony, rude response are indeed rude
 
@thecoshman thanks
 
I had a professor of physics in high school who is about Martin's age. My favorite thing about him was that he was old enough to not give a fuck anymore. He wore suits with baseball caps and was rude af to idiots.
 
5:35 PM
@ElimGarak There is that.. :)
 
There's a difference between being "rude" and being straightforward
 
Ell
ah man
 
Ven
@Morwenn I laughed when I read your comment about converting ranges to a C array to reuse Wiki's algorithm without needed to tweak it too much :P
 
brb. making a syscall to add two integers
 
5:38 PM
@JerryCoffin I would tend to agree :P
 
@ElimGarak Most mods don't have any significant amount of rep anyway.
 
@Ven Where did I write that?
 
Ven
@Morwenn well, it was for first and last: github.com/Morwenn/cpp-sort/pull/33/…
 
@Ven Not my comment though; it was there right from the start :p
 
Ven
aw :P
 
5:42 PM
Moreover, I bet the hack makes the algorithm fail with std::deque.
But I noticed later that there was an unmerged develop branch on WikiSort. If I'm lucky it makes the algorithm iterator-based.
 
@ElimGarak ¬_¬ 'af' how very dare you. Say 'as fuck' like a grown man
 
I thought af was a Lounge thing. I prefer as fuck as well. I am just trying to assimilate. :P
 
@JerryCoffin rep is insignificant
@ElimGarak fuck that shit
 
@Ven Do you really look at every commit?
 
Ven
@Morwenn yes
 
5:46 PM
@Morwenn he has to fap to something
 
Ven
^
 
@Ven Wow, impressive xD
 
Ven
and I have approx 350 github follows, I think :P
 
Wow again.
 
5:49 PM
@wilx meant to watch that, thanks :P
woah, that's even more impressive looking than I thought it would be
Though... how did that capsule land first? or was that just editing?
 
Great commit comment:
> That's what I get for copying and pasting.
 
lol, just updating my CV... so much 'where' where I meant 'were'
hey, it worked to get to interviews before :P
 
Ell
lol how :P
 
I'm just that fucking awesome!
 
Ell
git instaweb just doesn't work
 
5:59 PM
@wilx Needs to be said: It looks like a penis (at the beginning of the video)
 
@Borgleader :D
 
Maybe I should just reduce my CV to "I used to have a few typos, spelling 'were' as 'where'; I still got jobs, I'm that awesome."
@Ell wtf is that?
@Borgleader pretty much everything about space travel is penis related
 
@thecoshman RTFM a.k.a. Google it: git-scm.com/docs/git-instaweb
 
sounds hideous, and also a fine example of how fucking disgustingly feature creeped git is
 
Ven
i.imgur.com/al814u2.png 3601ms is pretty high to play a game.
 
6:07 PM
gitweb is bad and almost nobody uses it, idk why they don't just drop it
 
because people
 
6:21 PM
I love the feel of a new bank card
 
... ok then
 
@Ven Oh dear yes. Anything above 200 ms is barely playable.
 
user406009
Darn, this annoying professor still thinks that void RMI methods don't block.
 
user406009
I guess there is no dealing with certain people.
 
user406009
You can point it out in the spec.
 
user406009
6:28 PM
You can write test cases.
 
user406009
You can investigate the implementation.
 
user406009
Some people are just too sure of their own beliefs.
 
vOv why does is it matter?
let the idiot be wrong
 
user406009
Well, when someone is in charge of deciding whether or not you will pass the class, things start to matter.
 
My tea bags expired two years ago. Should I still use them?
 
user406009
6:30 PM
@thecoshman Yeah, but I'll just switch to using Void and returning null.
 
@Lalaland what? why?
I don't understand your problem
@StackedCrooked ofc not, it's tea
 
user406009
I need blocking to avoid certain race conditions.
 
user406009
In particular, if blah.foo() is called and then blah.foo2(), foo should have finished by the time foo2 is called.
 
@Borgleader <3
 
@Lalaland well, you're not going to get any race conditions, as the calls block. Worse case, just return something that could be used in another call.
@TonyTheLion I see you too are just trawling reddit :\
 
6:33 PM
@thecoshman Should I be doing something else?
 
have you fapped?
 
user406009
@thecoshman Yes, but he believes that void methods do not block.
 
user406009
So all projects that rely on void methods will be marked down to "possible race conditions"
 
user406009
I do not know where he got this belief from.
 
user406009
I think he got it because he had two computers with unsynchronized clocks.
 
6:35 PM
race condition sounds racist...
 
then return something so they are not void
 
user406009
@thecoshman Yep. That's what I'll do.
 
@Lalaland that's still not going to cause issues
 
user406009
It's stupid, but whatever.
 
@Lalaland but not Void, as if he's stupid, he'll be stupid
 
user406009
6:36 PM
@thecoshman Good argument. So I guess null Objects should be the trick.
 
anybody dares to venture a guess as to why a friend function that's not a template doesn't link (undefined ref...) if its definition is moved from a header to a cpp file?
 
user406009
This class should be titled: "COMP 421: How to deal with totally incompetent technical leads."
 
return some sort of enum like enum CallStatus{ OK, BAD }
@ScarletAmaranth because the class is templated?
 
@thecoshman the class is not a template
I am getting really confused :(
 
is it declared in the header?
 
6:39 PM
the header contains a non-template class that contains a friend operator<< overload
 
@Lalaland Presumably they will only get marked down if they also use them in a way that causes a race condition if they were non-blocking.
 
@ScarletAmaranth you’re defining something else
e.g. namespace not set up right
or parameters
 
@thecoshman @LucDanton thanks, imma check things :P
 
@Puppy they are blocking calls, but the lecturer doesn't believe this, thus will mark it down as 'it might cause problems', but it's fine
 
right, but what I'm saying is that even if they were non-blocking, there are plenty of ways to use non-blocking calls perfectly safely.
 
6:41 PM
@Puppy oh sure
 
@TonyTheLion <3 <3 <3
 
Where did @AlexM get lost at
 
user406009
@Puppy Yes, but that's a tad more difficult.
 
@ScarletAmaranth I’ve never thought to debug it that way (so maybe it’s a terrible way), but I guess you can inspect the object file where you have your def and check why it wouldn’t match the intended declaration?
 
@CatPlusPlus In a pizza box, or Skellige.
 
6:44 PM
@LucDanton that would be interesting... I think I am setting up the proper namespace (the immediate enclosing namespace of the class, without the class namespace resolution)... I have never inspected an object file actually, Ill give it a bash just for kicks
 
@ScarletAmaranth I don’t recall if you’re in Posix-land or not, but there you can look at the output of e.g. nm -C (nm -CD for a shared lib)
 
lol, a fucking space broke that
 
murkdown is a really good markup format
 
@thecoshman oh my
 
Ven
@CatPlusPlus you mean markdown implementations rock!
 
user406009
6:52 PM
@Puppy In particular, you need to add acknowledge messages to everything.
 
Have you tried talking to your professor about this, like, not in the middle of a class?
and without starting by saying "you're wrong"
 
user406009
Yes.
 
user406009
This man is impossible to convince of anything.
 
user406009
This is one topic of many.
 
user406009
I just give up at this point.
 
6:55 PM
@TonyTheLion Ilaughed:
 
vOv I had similar about a how Struct and Class are more or less that same thing
Though that was more between me and another student, with the lecturer not really willing to chime in
 
user406009
@thecoshman What? Did they claim that they are different?
 
@orlp The voice sounds like it's from the 80s.
 
@Morwenn well, that's impossible, I saw them live :P
and I wasn't alive in the 80s
 
6:59 PM
@Borgleader heh
 
@Lalaland iirc it was mostly refusal to believe that public vs private default could be all that is different, else why would they bother with the two things.
Despite never being able to come forward with what the difference would be, he insisted there was one
He was convinced there must be some difference in how they are compiled and used by... something.
 
@Borgleader Omg. :D
Huh.
But the --high-dpi-support=1 --force-device-scale-factor=1 seems to fix it.
 
user406009
7:30 PM
@thecoshman Well, theoretically there could be a difference.
 
Ven
welcome to the githubs
 
@Lalaland Not necessarily. The Standard may make requirements for structs and classes of the same memory layouts, for example.
 
@Lalaland afaik, literally the only difference is the default access
 
Evening lounge
 
@thecoshman well, also when you inherit, the default inheritance is public on structs... but that's basically the same thing
 
7:47 PM
@ScarletAmaranth yeah, same thing
 
user406009
@thecoshman Yes, but I think a compiler is free to make a difference if it wanted to.
 
user406009
One definition rule and all that.
 
Is there a limitation on how long back in time transcript search goes?
 
user406009
@JohanLarsson I think it goes all the way back.
 
@Lalaland well, the compiler could do what ever, so that's a silly argument.
 
7:49 PM
I thought so too but can't find what I know is there.
 
user406009
@thecoshman Well, there are certain things the compiler requires.
 
@Lalaland Not necessarily.
the Standard may require them to be the same to such an extent that it basically leaves no room for interpretation by the implementation.
 
user406009
Clearly I need to write an Evil Compiler (TM) which breaks everything.
 
user406009
And then I can win all the pedantry debates.
 
Is there any compiler in which '0' is not 48?
 
user406009
7:51 PM
> Well, you clearly haven't used my compiler!
 
in other words, are ASCII literals always ASCII in C++?
 
YES
"ASCII" literal is by definition ASCII :)
 
@ScarletAmaranth that doesn't answer my question
 
I know ^^
 
It's probably implementation-defined on account of EBCDIC and shit
 
Ell
7:53 PM
  Test group:
    Test failed:
      input    : group []
      expected : []
      actual   : [[]]
ah balls that was silly of me
 
cause I have some incoming ASCII binary data and want to compare it to ASCII literals
would be annoying if I had to write 48 instead of '0'
(although I can probably make some template magic with ASCII<'a'>() being 48)
 
user406009
@orlp You could use a UTF8 string literal?
 
user406009
u8"Blah blah0"
 
@Lalaland I'm on C++11, not C++17
but yes, u8'a' would work
 
user406009
That sounds like a personal problem :P
 
7:57 PM
... if I were on C++17
hrm
 
Ell
ASCII literals?
 
UCS-4 would work I guess
 
Ell
what is an ascii literal?
 
U'0'
ye, U'0' would work
 

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