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@ElimGarak These are best handled on socks IRL :)
@ElimGarak Are the 14GiB a part of the standard offering or is it separately licensed etc.
Although, it gulps up space intensely. There's the basic version, 911 MB, then the essentials at 2 GB and then 14 GB for the really rich stuff like the cathedral organ, orchestral percussion.
@sehe It's all part of the standard offering, but you have to opt in to download it. This is a convenience for people who don't want the "advanced stuff".
Or who live in the swamps
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@sehe why did you say "um"?
Cool stuff. I'm gonna keep this in the back of my head
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I asked cicada this time
00:03
@Ell To reciprocate (I usually mirror to make people aware I picked up on it)
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I'm not sure if people realise what impression they give when they say "um" or "..."
@sehe oops sorry I meant to ask bartek
:D I did say it too
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My bad, I mistyped
@BartekBanachewicz why did you say "um"?
@Rapptz Pretty but not fun long seems to be the general concensus
00:09
@jaggedSpire grabby hands
Uuuuuh, clang++, y u no cimpole when g++ is so nice ç______ç
But mostly it channels Mark Knopfler, Dire Straits and stuff.
@Morwenn I ask myself the same thing when I try to compile ogonek
Seriously, it's like the 10th time g++ accepts my code without even a warning and clang++ rejects it. Everytime for different reasons. I'm impressed.
Good eve @all!
00:13
Hi, I'm finally home.
@ElimGarak I have 7.1x130W here
Well. In honesty, it's not fully populated.
More like 5.1 now
@TonyTheLion A friend of mine said she wanted to build a computer and the parts got delivered yesterday. Took 3 hours because putting in the heatsink was too hard and I fucked it up twice.
@Morwenn I'm very used to that. Almost always trivial reasons though (and clang's usually correct)
@Nooble I wouldn't like to do PC assembly with extra eyes
@Ven lol
00:18
And that's a hard process because of the thermal compound. Every time I messed up, I had to take off the CPU, clean it and the heatsink, put it back, and attempt again.
@sehe It had a few trivial problems (template recursion depth exceeded, end overloads declared after the generic version, etc...) but these days, I fall into delayed template instantiation, SFINAE and type deduction problems.
@sehe Why not :P
These problems tend to be a bit harder to isolate and solve.
@Borgleader ...is he okay?
:P
Seq.zip (first.Attributes()) (other.Attributes()) lisped it
lisping is part of my fuzzying process
00:19
wut; F#?
who needs docs?
@sehe yep
So you mean you realize it doesn't make it more readable :)
@sehe Regardless, that must be amazing. When your wife lets it be amazing, though. :P
I add () when things don't compile
@ElimGarak I don't let it be, myself usually
00:21
@sehe I don't blame the language for anything
It was serious overkill when I bought it.
Also part of the actual fan blocks the pins I need to twist and push so that it locks on to the motherboard.
And I broke one of the pins so v0v lol I suck.
@Nooble I hate these things.
Yeah, for an industry that praises itself for modularity, that approach/mechanism really sucks.
@sehe It's especially horrible on LGA1150 stuff.
In this case an i7-4790K.
@Elyse What the fuck.
00:27
@Nooble Proud of yeh
@Elyse Uhm, what?
That's cause for a psych eval, whoever made that.
@Elyse What the actual...?
user1804599
It's a very old GIF.
user1804599
I remember it from my youth.
Aaah
Now we know why you're so rightfoldy
00:31
Although, for ways people were skinned in the past and continue to be today, that's pretty efficient/humane.
Although, I am not quite clear on neckbeard basement dweller's fascination with little girls.
I don't think there's any part of being skinned alive that's humane
That's because you're closeminded, run back to your sugardaddy Danse and the Brotherhood of Steel. :P <3
Nah, Danse is too needy.
I actually tried to kill him by activating the rocket engine in the ArcJet facility. Asshole survived and then thanked me, and I was like: "This was my goal all along"
I found that too late (i.e. after all the synths were already taken care of)
still had to push the butan of course.
user1804599
00:35
Danse is an asshole.
my idiot companions were standing in front of the window looking at me :D
I only travel with Nick, he's my bestie. Also, got some booze for Garrus in Goodneigbor
@ElimGarak /cc @nick
@ElimGarak <= SARCASTIC
he keeps bugging me about those tapes. Sounds like so much work, digging up the remaining 9 :(
@Elyse It was already shared in the Lounge with the same NSFL label years ago.
00:37
^ YES
v NO
@Morwenn You were shared in the Lounge? By whom?
@набиячлэвэлиь Fuck my nails.
@melak47 Yeah, it's pretty much a fetch achievement quest and they're nagging me way too much to do it. :(
> FILE_NOT_FOUND ?
00:38
The new dialogue system sucks monkey cock
@Elyse Try harder - you only got one flag for that - seriously though - there's NSFW and just omfg that's sick - let's try and avoid posting such stuff please?
I was expecting some info on the Great War, they're eluding the question of how it happened.
@ElimGarak Is there an equivalent of Billy Knight in FO4?
> >Safari
Billy Knight is the greatest person in Fallout history
@ElimGarak No, he's mine!
00:41
@Nooble You and my bookie have something in common. Every time I see you, I lose caps!
Man, people in this place are crazy, I tell ya'. Some girl was banging on my door all night. Finally, I had to let her out. comedian what
> Anonymous goes to war with ISIS over Paris attacks
Not sure how I feel about that yet
Frankly ^that^ is more relevant than the "should encryption be banned" debate IMO
@JonClements :26937394 Huh. He marked it as such, right. I personally don't see the problem (unless it would become regular shit; We don't condone posting cake and fat women pictures for very similar reasons)
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@sehe I can understand your reasoning :)
@sehe I think that the encryption bane is more relevante because it's too stupid to happen
The fact that this debate still happens is very worrying
Also - a mate of mine is so bad at spelling/grammar he'd probably be arrested for trying to encrypt text messages... while, the situation is - he's just crap at sending them
00:48
lol
posted on November 18, 2015 by Scott Meyers

In 1992, I was responsible for organizing the Advanced Topics Workshop that accompanied the USENIX C++ Technical Conference. The call for workshop participation said: The focus of this year's workshop will be support for C++ software development tools. Many people are beginning to experiment with the idea of having such tools work off a data structure that represents parsed C++, leaving the p

@VillasV Huh. I'd rather have debate, or even flawed laws with debate, than civil justice/vigils without any debate.
I'm stressing this on purpose now. Like I said, I don't know how I feel about the #OPParis thing yet.
@sehe true, what I meant is that debate should haver ended in a single month, because it is obviously a bad idea.
It is not.
It's a bad idea. But it's clearly not obvious.
Adjective: obvious ‎(comparative more obvious, superlative most obvious)
  1. Easily discovered, seen, or understood; self-explanatory; eyely.
> Scientific grade. Plotly.js is comparable in scope and features to MATLAB or Python’s matplotlib, but written in JavaScript, the language of the Web.
01:00
@sehe Well, it is obvious to me... but I guess that you not thinking it's obvious is enough evidence to say that the debate is not that much wasteful.
man people use JS for everything these days
@RichardDawkins @danblondell Ohoh, queue the "So you DO believe in jesus" nitwittery. Why do you torture yourself professor? ;-)
@VillasV It's not not obvious because I say so. I say so because of the empirical evidence. Please.
That wasn't an opinion
10 hours ago, by Lalaland
@sehe I strongly believe that you can't truly argue against something until you know the arguments for it.
@Prismatic I am jabbascript expert did you call me ??
my first flight with mustang was great
01:04
what is going on
i actually managed to take off
so happy\
@BartekBanachewicz irl
flying for about 30s
@Nooble nah sim
aww
and then suddenly the engine stops
and I'm like fuck what do I do\
01:04
@sehe ah, ok. Still, this debate not ending is worrying. Because until it ends, there's always the possibility of taking the wrong decision :/
reboot the pc
didn't manage to start the engine again :/
did you try to climb like straight up?
During WWII, 60 million people were killed, ISIS has a maximum of 200,000 people - that's 1/30 ... and the world population more than doubled since then, 3.5 times to be exact. If the world unite force and decide to crash ISIS, it would rather easy. But the problem is humanitarian issues ... and maybe the raise of new terrorist organizations
01:05
i was flying level
did you eject
did you finish
Declare emergency with ATC, look for closest airport and determine whether in gliding range or turn to looking a surface which will serve with minimal damage.
@Prismatic i didn't
I jerked the controls a bit too much and lost control
01:06
couldn't pull up
@BartekBanachewicz must resists... obvious puns
/s/up/out
@VillasV How do you think it compares to the trend I was referring to? You're hijacking my topic. I was trying to sollicit some thoughts about people taking "online vigils" into real life, basically.
i really think I should stream my gameplay
I reckon you could say online has always been "IRL" to an extent
01:07
this is greatestest fun ever
especially given i didn't complete mustang training so i was like "lel let me see if i can start it"
But if we're gonna have civilians purposely affecting war groups in other geographical regions, that's interesting. I suppose it's splendid arguments /in favour/ widespread use of encryption
i think i should have cut off fuel boost
once I was in midair
or perhaps I burned the carb, I kept the coolants forcefully off
OTOH oil temp right before the incident was perfectly ok
@Prismatic 30s is a new personal best though :)
i wonder if i can replay it
@sehe true, sorry. I noted here before that I can't multithread.
@sehe speaking of Anonymous, I don't know what bad thing can come out of this.
01:10
Noooooo, the solution that works with both g++ and clang++ it the most retarded, verbose and redundant one T____T
Elegance died tonight.
@VillasV Anonymous is popculture bullshit.
They are even lamer than their videos and that's an achievement.
@Morwenn ☑ rip ☐ not rip
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@ElimGarak I know. One of the reasons that I think this won't go much further. They will just make videos with epic soundtracks and nothing will happen later. At least that's what I foresee.
@VillasV It's the idea, in principle, that people are capable of sabotaging politicial/military groups abroad as well.
On one hand it appeals to me (freedom! the affected groups have the freedom to protect their security (do they?)).
On the other hand it seems like an even worse idea than state entities "policing" regions outside their territory (US in Iraq/Afghanistan/..., France in Syria seems child-play compared to hackers sabotaging guerilla factions abroad)
Wow you typed that really fast
01:13
Clipboards are really nice
I make it easier for others (+me) to "multi-thread" by reducing context switches
hm actually
@VillasV I've seen claims to the contrary
those plane packs aren't that expensive
I'm writing keyboard input stuff for my library. Every library that I see assigns individual keys an explicitly integer value. Do you guys think thats really required?
@Prismatic yep
01:16
The integer values are typically the ASCII code values
@BartekBanachewicz Why do you think its required?
We report that more than 5500 Twitter account of #ISIS are now #down! #OpParis #Anonymous #ExpectUs
@sehe I think that it'ss good to see some non-government intervention from someone who is allegedly doing this just for <quotes>""good""</quotes>.
These values aren't scancodes by the way
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@Prismatic what's the value for shift?
@VillasV It's worse than the encryption debate though. Because with the encryption 'ban' you /do/ have some level of control (you know who's responsible for "good" use of the power). With anonymous, you have to ... hope for the best
You don't even know who they are.
01:18
KEY_LEFT_SHIFT = 340
Like your government - they could become evil pretty soon. And with your government you actually have some change you have a say in it
@Prismatic because different oses and stuff
damn i wish more of my friends played DCS
it seems like a game you could play for 10 years straight and not get bored
I don't think the keys that are outside the ascii table are consistent between libraries
@Morwenn (it's been a while)
01:21
@sehe yes, I don't know what to think anymore. I don't put trust in them, although most of their actions so far seemed "legit".
Cough. There has been some debate on that. I think.
@sehe It felt on-topic :p
My opinion of Anonymous has been rather positive to date. But as soon as they start messing with terrorism, I sense that they're too likely to cross those ethical lines
But I also don't think that they are that much of an issue. They are good at hijacking websites and accounts and exposing identities. This can have a lot of impact, but I don't see any way they can go much further without getting in dangerous waters.
The stakes are a bit high for my taste, and morals of anonymous groups are bound to be ... volatile
01:23
still
They did manage to actually do things though. The HBGary affair was rather impressive.
@VillasV Read up on doxing. The effects can be devastating
@sehe yes. I disagreed with their AshleyMadison thing for example.
I didn't :) I'm not aware of link to anonymous
What did they do with Ashley Madison?
01:24
Doxing sounds like a Pokemon
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Deoxys
<-- AZAWK squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
I don't remember Anonymous doing anything with Ashley Madison :o
> "In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist." // h-net.org/~hst306/documents/indust.html
@GregorMcGregor They exposed the list of registered users .
01:27
That wasn't Anonymous
That's a completely different, unrelated group
As had been the major, similar breaches before
@GregorMcGregor D: I just saw the word Anonymous in the news. I think the users where anonymous then? Sorry for misinformation :P
Can't wait, I've never been murdered before.
01:29
It seems it was a group called "Impact Team"
@ElimGarak funny because I actually like ISIS music
> ISIS music
Is that something well defined, like your use of "Anonymous" ?
@sehe probably not, I don't make proper use of words.
You might want to find the PHP room
@sehe I think the proper name would be Jihadic Nasheed
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I find flight sim boring
@VillasV Ok. Thanks for the clarification
@ElimGarak I like that one
@VillasV Yes, I've dispatched a GCHQ team to your present location.
@ElimGarak hahaha a comment on YouTube: "Greetings NSA watchlist"
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this is the most dank nasheed
01:37
Also, is that Assassin's Creed artwork, whose story pretty much shits on all religions out there?
@Ell I find nasheed boring :)
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Me too, really
I mostly find the "surprise jihad" meme funny, but it is not at all appropriate
Most flight sims are not sims, but Prepar3D (and FSX) qualify proper. Basically, if you cannot do a catIIIb ILS landing by using the instruments, it's not a sim.
#Anonymous has given the Free Syrian Army data with 200k lines of personal information of members of an underground #Daesh forum. #OpISIS
/cc @ElimGarak note especially the discussion in the comments.
@sehe oh well, that's some impactful work :o
01:44
And it's not at all given that the impact is "good"
If anything, it will just teach people to really hide
@Ell ROFL thanks for mentioning it
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Saw a baptising on TV today.
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Fucking disgusting what they do to those innocent children.
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10 BREED
20 INDOCTRINATE
30 GOTO 10
Allah SYN-ACKbar
Quran TCP edition
@Elyse Try to breed without indoctrinating, you opinionated bastard :)
~izzanottapozzibbul~
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01:47
Baptising is quite literally "brainwashing".
Nope.
> UPDATE: UK journalists are claiming to have seen some of the data collected by Anonymous activists. Also, after day #2 of the Anonymous-ISIS cyber-war, the hackers are claiming they have now taken down 5,500 pro-ISIS Twitter accounts.
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Except there's a shell around the brain.
:26937987 Unless it is a city liable to appear on a teenage girl's Facebook cover photo, people don't care. :P
NVM, I just checked the news and it was just regular crime
pls disregard
01:51
pls no facts
Lounge<C++>, the last safe bastion of pure strain humans.
user1804599
Problem with software developers who have hobbies other than developing software: they tweet uninteresting things.
@Ell Is this the inappropriate meme you were speaking of?
@Elyse There are people who tweet interesting things?
user1804599
Yes, for example STL.
user1804599
And Joe Armstrong.
user1804599
01:54
And Rob Pike.
Counter Strike: Paris 2015 DLC Spray for Paris on December 9th, only on Steam
@jaggedSpire :P
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> Wind: 15 m/s (W)
user1804599
dude wtf
I am quite surprised someone didn't do it already, though. Internet is usually full of weird folks.
user1804599
01:57
The doors and windows are closed and I feel the wind.
user1804599
RIP trees.
I woke earlier this morning thinking that I would go to sleep earlier. It seems that I failed.
Good night everybody ♥
@Borgleader :O
@Morwenn night!
@Borgleader Is that a red panda?
It's not a koala
01:58
Too fat for a fox
dies of cute
@Ell happy birthday
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@jaggedSpire Thanks ^_^
@Morwenn Night
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@Nooble thanks :3
02:02
This is still on YouTube, oh gawd.
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I wonder what the advantages of unikernels are
user1804599
is that good?
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I think microkernels would be better
02:05
@ScottW ayyyy
@ScottW moombleloleiliale?
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@VillasV You know. If even loungers think it's inappropriate, perhaps you should consider not posting it - oneboxed no less
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@ScottW oh Scott you make me lafff
@ScottW yay! :D
@ScottW vwp
02:12
@Borgleader I wonder how it tastes
@Ell happy day of birth
@Borgleader d'awww
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@nick fanks m9
@BartekBanachewicz youtu.be/VGj5EffwnDg?t=108 it's a timed link
02:44
Another timed link. Somehow I think you'll like this @ElimGarak
Stay at least for a few fantastic facial expressions if not for the sheer bravery
It's really funny at the peak just before 14"
Hi @Lalaland!
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Hello.
I think one needs to develop a sixth sense for SO. For stale smell of questions.
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Q: Parameter for function has two templated types, but only care about one

JameshobbsI am developing a workflow system to connect tasks together in a producer consumer model. The idea is you have one or more tasks that are producing and consuming data from eachother. I have implemented the tasks and now I'm trying to connect them together. To help manage these tasks, I created a ...

03:10
This is an excellent answer, but ultimately I decided to remove storing the list of producer and consumer tasks for the connector. It turns out I dont really need them. Then I templated the method to accept the additional 'whatever' type. I have editted my original post to include this. — Jameshobbs 6 hours ago
that's... sigh
Indeed. You should develop a taste for questions that seem confused to the core
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Well, every question usually has some level of confusion.
user406009
It's hard to ask a good question when you don't know anything about solving your problem.
I sensed some bad odor when I saw his pointer mess, but I decided to give it a try anyway. Wrong turn.
Eww pointars.
03:18
I think i had had a need for a solid session with my punching bag if I had spent time on updating my answer on his first comment.
So... I discovered something sad today. For the past ~5-ish years, there's this awesome guy on one of the overclocking forums that I post on. He has access to prerelease and engineering sample hardware. And every few months he sends me benchmarks of the latest and greatest.
I noticed today that he hadn't done so for about a year now.
A bit of research... and well...
Yes?
He passed away in July from cancer.
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@Mysticial My condolences :(
03:23
:(
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:(
He's famous on that forum. But I've been so busy this last year that I haven't been on the forum much. So much so that I completely missed two posts: One where he announced that he had terminal cancer. And then 6 months later when the owner of the forum announced that he had passed.
@Mystical If I may - what about you posting an obituary on that forum? It much appears you were him a good friend.
I've never met him in person, but we've spoken over the phone a bunch of times over the years.
Mostly about hardware and how to tune it for my program and such. We also had some discussions to see if I could obtain any prerelease hardware. Though none of those fell through.
@Mysticial found it
03:35
nothing
@sehe resistance is futile
See @Martin? This is why you shouldn't just disappear like that.
That's... some logic :)
But I agree
@GregorMcGregor by the way, what's your reading on this phoronix.com/…
03:51
smart move
now they just need to add SPIR-V as a target and tadaaa
I'm not sure I get the "tadaa" - I'm a lowly c++ programmer
@sehe SPIR-V support would be great.
Then I could write my shaders in Haskell.
user406009
There is a Haskell to LLVM compiler?
user406009
Well, what do you know, it is an option.
user406009
Still seems like a bad idea though.

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