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1:00 AM
@Prismatic (he's very obviously trolling)
 
@набиячлэвэлиь ssshhhh
 
user406009
@OneRaynyDay You mainly just want to avoid a using namespace statement in headers.
 
user406009
Otherwise it doesn't really matter.
 
user406009
@jaggedSpire It always seems to me like Vlad is always either banned or employed.
 
ahh okay - but I used it in a .cpp file. When talking about headers do you mean just in a global scope?
 
1:01 AM
@OneRaynyDay .hpp or .h
 
@Lalaland nah, you can tell when he's neither because then his rep isn't nearly flat
 
user406009
@jaggedSpire How does he keep on getting banned? I looked at all his recent answers and some are quite decent.
 
@Lalaland I think this one was throwing a fit on meta
last one was serial vengeance downvoting
or so I heard
 
user406009
Like for instance, why is stackoverflow.com/questions/33583478/… downvoted so much?
 
user406009
Sure, he had a minor bug in the size of the array.
 
user406009
1:04 AM
And some of the code style is questionable.
 
It's Vlad. Oh and it looks like he's banned again.
 
user406009
But it does answer the question in a clear way.
 
meta-effect, and I think there was something in the comments
 
There were probably a gazzilion comments that were deleted.
 
@Lalaland I gave it a downvote because Vladever
 
1:04 AM
like, someone asked a question, and he called them stupid
and unworthy of being a programmer
 
If you look at the revision history of that answer, he was clearly attacking other people.
So yeah, he was probably asking for those downvotes. (as well as the flags and suspension)
 
> P.S. Do not take into account that the answer is down-voted. The reason is that low-qualified beginners like @Ed Heal, @lurker or @machine_1 or @hexasoft do not know that this declaration char key[5]="april";
@Mysticial He would never...
 
posted on November 12, 2015 by Gabriel Ha

Hello C++ World! As a follow up to my previous post on our experimental features, I wanted to briefly showcase the “Improved Database Engine” experience. In this short 90-second video , see how taking 8 seconds to simply flip a switch could...(read more)

 
@Feeds Is it finally the death of VAX & Resharper?
(probably not, but one could hope)
 
user406009
@Borgleader Shouldn't he have learned by now that those types of statements never work?
 
1:09 AM
@Lalaland "Shouldn't the mods have learned by now that those types of punishments never work on Vlad?" FTFY
 
@Borgleader no, they just doubled the speed of their database engine during its initial parsing step
 
and the answer is no, they have not :)
 
user406009
I mean, everybody is an idiot at some point in their lives.
 
user406009
I know I have personally written all sorts of stupid things on this chat and on SO.
 
Vlad is a pita and has been for a while now. He's been banned more times than I care to count.
 
1:10 AM
@Lalaland Some people are idiots in every point in their lives.
 
noooo
 
@jaggedSpire lrn2wait3min noob
 
@Borgleader my life has been a lie
 
Help, I'm drowning into black magic.
 
1:12 AM
bad greemer all round
@Morwenn how so?
 
@Borgleader I can't get over how cute that puppy is
 
@jaggedSpire I don't even pretend to understand what my code is doing anymore.
@Borgleader Not this kind of black magic.
 
@Morwenn embrace the Cargo Cult Style!
 
user406009
@Morwenn Well, the first step is always admitting you have a problem.
 
1:13 AM
> >templates
 
user406009
The second step is seeking help.
 
user406009
The third step is to stop drinking.
 
@jaggedSpire ikr, so adorable :3
 
@Lalaland lol
augh I want some kahlua but I'm on a prescription that forbids alcohol :( At least it ends on Sunday.
 
@jaggedSpire :(
 
1:17 AM
@Lalaland I didn't drink tonight.
 
> tonight
 
user406009
@Morwenn It was a joke about Alcoholics Anonymous.
 
@jaggedSpire Yeah :(
 
user406009
It's rather big in US pop culture.
 
ITT @Morwenn is still drunk from this afternoon. :P
 
user406009
1:20 AM
Although in retrospect, it would have been better to end the joke with "The third step is to start drinking" to emphasize the irony.
 
Chocolate ice cream with cinnamon makes up for the absence of kahlua though. :)
 
user406009
Instead of botany, I should study to become a stand up comedian.
 
@Lalaland I dunno, it was pretty funny when you implied Morwenn had to have been drunk to write that code. :P
Sorry, @Morwenn
 
No problem.
 
I wish I could be great at mathematics, it would really benefit my programming.
 
1:22 AM
I wish I could be great at everything, it would really benefit my programming.
curse you, past me! Why didn't I post a link to the roasted chickpea recipe?
 
user406009
@edition I don't think so. A lot of math theory is pretty darn inapplicable.
 
@OneRaynyDay Here's my counter offer. Not completely serious, but you can glean a few things about c++ there: coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/65c3e4fd55d85d3c (complete with builtin dictionary! It will even know c++ identifiers this way)
 
user406009
I would much rather have more domain knowledge about an industry to better understand what problems need solving.
 
user406009
@sehe Isn't this something you have been working on for a while ever since that one question?
 
Not per se. I reused the prompting thing. But the game logic, dictionary reading and shuffling etc. is new!
@Lalaland Don't dismiss all my hearty efforts :(
 
1:29 AM
@sehe constructor is wrong to move, or wrong to accept by rvalue ref
 
Haha, the code compiles with clang++ when there is an SFINAEd-out function, but not when there is no function at all. I don't odd...
 
@LucDanton erm. Trying to remember what constructor that might be
 
just the one
 
Lol.
 
@Morwenn grats on breaking the two better c++ cimplolers, if you have
 
1:31 AM
My girlfriend just broke up with me.
 
@Rapptz offers grenade
 
@Rapptz Damn, I'm sorry. :\
 
@Rapptz :(
 
@jaggedSpire Not sure.
 
that sucks
 
1:32 AM
@Rapptz :/
 
@LucDanton idgi. Are lambdas not moveable
@Rapptz oops. Did you see that coming
 
Oct 21 at 5:30, by Rapptz
who is single and ready to mindle
 
@Morwenn I'd ask if you've broken MSVC, but you did that when you employed SFINAE. :P
 
@LucDanton lol the pure irony
 
@Rapptz Her loss.
 
1:33 AM
> mindle
 
@sehe Nobody did. repeats Springfield
 
@jaggedSpire So much ICE it could save the Arctic.
 
I have a sad feeling you're mocking mass shootings now. But I'm too lazy to google Springfield
 
@sehe It's a gun.
 
@Morwenn ayyy
 
1:34 AM
@sehe It's a WW2 American sniper rifle
 
@Nooble IDGI. Where's the joke, guys. And why
@набиячлэвэлиь Ok
 
@sehe "that" is the bullet.
 
@sehe or alternatively, require that the arguments to the template not be reference types
 
@набиячлэвэлиь WW1 too.
 
1:35 AM
> // touch all the memory to make sure it's there. The 16-page skip is to
// keep Win 95 from thinking we're trying to page ourselves in (we are
// doing that, of course, but there's no reason we shouldn't)
awesome
@LucDanton it does require that (and make sure of it, too, but I could assert on it?)
 
@Rapptz I honestly thought you were single then
 
@sehe what is that from, dare I ask?
 
@LucDanton was just shitposting
 
comment withheld
 
1:37 AM
lol
 
@sehe I don’t see where you make sure. Or why you would need to.
 
@Columbo: I accidentially discovered that the const qualifier of the cast type is clangs (or g++'s) problem coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/7795a2ab39395210
 
Alright, time to unbox my new laptop and the free monitor that came with it.
 
@Mysticial Give me the free monitor.
I am in neeeed.
needy face
 
@LucDanton the class is only constructed from the inputmagic::prompt and inputmagic::read_line factory functions and they supply the template arguments
 
1:39 AM
@Mysticial enjoy
 
it’s public, an interesting way of 'making sure'
 
@LucDanton s/l//
@LucDanton Even better after the edit
 
@sehe counter offer? I'm reading it right now :)
sorry about the late reply - just finished that super annoying assignment.
 
@Mysticial Have fun!
 
@OneRaynyDay Man I'd love to do your assignments.
 
1:43 AM
@Nooble oh?
 
@jaggedSpire They seem fun.
 
@Nooble ( ͡͡ ° ͜ ʖ ͡ °)
 
@Nooble oh?
Heh alright
 
@sehe: Do you know a reason why a custom cast for the rhs type of an assignment will be ignored when it's const, but used when it's not const qualified? coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/7795a2ab39395210
 
From now on...
 
1:43 AM
@набиячлэвэлиь The challenge: CRTP all over the place.
 
@LucDanton oh well. It's not exactly a library proposal :)
 
GUYS @Nooble just volunteered for the next five "Do my HW now" questions! Thanks Nooble!
 
I think calling the parameters 'collapsed refs' instead of 'rvalue refs' is more appropriate, I might start doing that
 
@decltype_auto without looking, is there a T& overload that takes precedence (like it should) over the const T& one?
 
@jaggedSpire Could you pin this, @sehe?
 
1:45 AM
that would be mean
 
@LucDanton what occasions?
@набиячлэвэлиь nope
 
@jaggedSpire I'm a nice person.
 
@sehe like what you have in the constructor
 
user406009
@Nooble You just need to code the assignments in template-lang.
 
1:45 AM
Hey if I were room owner, I would pin it @набиячлэвэлиь.
Nooble2016.
 
also, it wouldn't last long enough to merit pinning. The present rate is at least 10/workday, last I checked. :P
 
user406009
> Of course professor, my code is O(1). It all happens at compile time!
 
(they’re not collapsed all the time and you avoid it on purpose but I can’t think of anything better atm)
 
@Lalaland <><><>>...><><><><......>><>><><><>
 
@LucDanton I don't see how it would suit "collapsing" since the tempalte arguments are meant to be non-reference types
 
1:46 AM
@jaggedSpire Look it can't be that horrible.
 
@sehe Nope. There's just a default and a custom one-arg ctor on the left type , and just that cast on the right type.
 
And besides, I need to learn C anyway ;)
 
@Lalaland that's O(never) or O(ICE) because the prof is using MSVC
 
@Nooble go forth and behold the suffering of the "new" questions
 
1:46 AM
@decltype_auto okay okay, I'll look. But really, why not Stack Overflow?
 
@jaggedSpire D:
I hate placement-anything.
 
@Puppy So based on this example, found in this answer, I gave it another go but I still get a null ptr when I try to get the address of main :(
 
I just don't like to be treated like an idiot when asking a question.
 
@Nooble It's what I keep an eye on for entertainment at work. :) Once a question dips below -5, I know it's a winner.
 
@Borgleader You can't use ::main, silly dude
 
1:48 AM
@sehe collapsible (not collapsed) references, like the cups!
 
@набиячлэвэлиь le sigh
bad troll is bad
 
@LucDanton I know they can. But that's not happening there?
 
We should fill the starboard with "Nooble2016" messages, all of them links to the rules
And then pin one of them
 
LucUnplonksMe2015
 
@sehe they’re not collapsed but they’re collapsible
 
1:49 AM
@sehe wait...
 
"let's watch anime"
 
'they can', that’s what it means
 
@набиячлэвэлиь no, post a link that says either "FAQ" or "Homework Solver 2.3"
 
plot is about a girl wishing she had a boyfriend
 
i have literally no idea what you did but it works
 
1:49 AM
please
:(
 
play girlfriend wars 2
 
Wish to elaborate? I have a headache from reading that LOL
 
user406009
@Rapptz I have seen worse anime plots.
 
@Rapptz plot twist: she is her own boyfriend
 
play LOTRO
 
1:50 AM
@Borgleader Hahaha.
The petition needs more signatures.
 
user406009
I remember a stupid one about how a tall girl had trouble finding boyfriends.
 
@LucDanton That's what I said. "they can", but that's not happening... So, I don't see why I would call them that. Perhaps I'm missing the library-writer's perspective here
 
user406009
And then she met this really short dude.
 
user406009
And they were perfect for each other.
 
@jaggedSpire Play GW2, or WoW, or SWToR :)
 
1:50 AM
@Rapptz :(
 
And then they died
 
@CatPlusPlus Ayyy
 
@Borgleader :P I have a friend who plays a lot of ToR
 
@CatPlusPlus They had a really short life to match the bf
 
The dankest of all endings
 
1:51 AM
@CatPlusPlus And they lived happily ever after.
 
lol swtor
 
@sehe this stackoverflow.com/questions/33632584/… is the original issue;
 
@sehe 'they can do X' and 'they are X-ible'/'X-able' mean the same thing, is there really disagreement/a misunderstanding here? If you say 'I know they can do that', and if I say 'they’re collapsible', then aren’t we done?
 
@OneRaynyDay please....
Jul 6 '14 at 18:58, by Borgleader
@AaronKyleKilleen Public service announcement
 
@sehe This is a gif that is allowed.
 
1:52 AM
@LucDanton I was asking why you'd call them that in this context :0
 
You should inline for maximum effectiveness.
 
user406009
@Nooble One of the two.
 
@sehe do you agree they can collapse (even though they don’t)?
 
7 mins ago, by sehe
@набиячлэвэлиь nope
@LucDanton sigh. you win
 
@sehe lol
 
1:53 AM
@sehe I really mean to say nothing more.
 
@Nooble Only our god and saviour Bjarne in his true, sparkly, form shall be inlined
 
@sehe Oh no, I saw that. I was just referring to how you wrote that program
 
@OneRaynyDay Smashin' some meat on deez keyz
 
It’s like calling int i = 0; ++i; overflowable, even though it doesn’t
 
@decltype_auto that sample has about 7 different cases in exposition. Narrow it down and put it on SO (in general, top-level const on return values is only going to hamper things, but I guess that might be what you're trying to achieve)
 
1:54 AM
also, it wouldn't work on my compiler because "auto"
 
I’m still not married to the name, maybe there’s better yet
 
Isn't top-level const on return values literally useless?
 
@OneRaynyDay Get a decent compiler. Like TurboC++. Or Dev-C++
2
 
@LucDanton Ok! Most of the time when I say "I should start doing XXX" it is because I just found a very good reason to do that :)
 
but I ran it on the coliru compiler and it worked. It was clever that your read your own file for words though LOL
 
1:54 AM
@набиячлэвэлиь In general, yes.
 
@набиячлэвэлиь it prevents (most) move constructions when the compiler will not elide
 
@LucDanton Interesting
 
@Nooble true, but our professor says XCode or Visual Studio.
 
@sehe Sorry, but no. I don't ask questions on SO. i asked one Meta recently and that was enough for my personal taste.
 
@OneRaynyDay Your professor can lick my furry balls.
 
1:55 AM
@набиячлэвэлиь if you want to avoid some move optimizations or calling member functions on the result
 
@sehe What?
 
@sehe: Thanks for having a look anyway!
 
Alright. Time to goto war with Windows 10.
 
@decltype_auto lol. SO != META. And, great. Why are you here?
 
1:55 AM
@Nooble LOL. I'll refer him to you
 
Good thing I practiced last week on my other machine.
 
@OneRaynyDay Yes please.
 
@sehe To test and improve my skills.
 
Win10 is not that bad
 
@набиячлэвэлиь Yeah it's ok.
 
1:56 AM
At least it's not 100% metro
 
@Mysticial nice AltGr key
 
But we should switch to Gentoo.
Together.
 
12 mins ago, by Luc Danton
I think calling the parameters 'collapsed refs' instead of 'rvalue refs' is more appropriate, I might start doing that
I thought you had some kind of epiphany :(
 
Ell
@Nooble yes switch to gentoo, not funtoo
 
@Nooble You 'avin' a giggle there, mate?
 
1:57 AM
@Mysticial that sticker. That's indeed the bloddy limit
 
@sehe 128 blocks, baby
 
@sehe Kinda. It was wrong to call them rvalue refs because the problematic case, e.g. foo<int&>::foo will have an int& parameter i.e. not an rvalue ref. So improved terminology to draw attention to what’s going on is always nice. Like we talk about forwarding refs because they’re not rvalue refs either.
 
@набиячлэвэлиь Togetherrrr.
For a week.
It'll be fun.
 
Good night @all!
 
@Nooble It's about as fun as manually writing your mother's mass
 
1:58 AM
@sehe it's hilarious
 
@LucDanton Ok. I sort of get it now. Though the contextual jump sent me off the path for some time :)
 
@Nooble [something funny related to explosives/sniper rifles]
 
yeah I had forwarding refs in mind which I guess comes out of the blue if you aren’t thinking about them
 
too late to think new stuff up rn
 
@OneRaynyDay On my end it reads from /etc/dictionaries-common/words of course
 

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