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7:02 PM
@Elyse That's cute :D
 
@jaggedSpire My soul has resisted your corruption! I am innocent and more pure than freshly fallen snow.
Also, Hi everyone.
 
hello
 
@ThePhD Hi :)
 
How's it been going?
@Morwenn Did I show you "Moses Supposes"?
 
@ThePhD I don't think so.
 
7:07 PM
It turns out I did!
It was, uh. The dancing ghost.
Now I don't think I have any music to give you...
 
@ThePhD <3 I missed you
 
fired TESO to get it updated so I can play this weekend
the shit says it can't find fuck knows what file
now it verifies 60GB+ worth of files
wtf
 
in Maid Café (メイド喫茶) on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 1 min ago, by ʞɹɐzǝɹ
@Mysticial lolwut http://stackoverflow.com/questions/33654638/can-you-be-a-successful-black-comput‌​er-programmer
 
@ThePhD I don't remember watching it before. It's fun :p
 
sup bby's? <3
 
7:13 PM
your face
 
yes my face is on the up
I'm looking more sexy lately
 
Ven
damn
 
@Mysticial SS for the low-rep peasants?
 
user1804599
@Ven ?
 
> Can You Be A Successful, Black Computer Programmer [on hold]
that title
 
Ven
7:14 PM
@Elyse @TonyTheLion being sexy
 
@TonyTheLion I can see that much from the URL
 
> just asking , have aspirations
^^^ the question
 
lol
That's the whole thing?
 
yep
not worth the screenshot
 
@TonyTheLion Yeouch.
 
7:18 PM
If you have trouble imagining an icon for a button, make it a text button.
 
@Nooble Add Adventure on Travis
 
@TonyTheLion Sorry, only white males.
 
@AlexM. Isn't that called camping?
 
in quake maybe
 
7:20 PM
@Borgleader Borgleader! How're you?
 
@ElimGarak Nah, he wasn't standing there long enough
And he was constantly moving
 
@ThePhD Tired as usual, but otherwise fine. How's you? :)
 
@Borgleader Doing alright. Trying to make sure my grades stay good.
I also need to find a concert to listen to in New York.
 
@ThePhD :)
 
there's no real camping in CS GO tbh
it's just players who don't check angles against people holding them
 
7:24 PM
I wonder if I could put a Raspberry Pi inside a GBA SP housing.
 
this is the best part about CS GO and its competitive mode, people have a reason to get better and win
people who rage against "campers" don't really win anything
 
@ThePhD bby long time no see. <3
Ghosh what to eat
 
@TonyTheLion Some самогон, duh
 
wot m8
 
:(
 
7:34 PM
tempted to order pizza
 
no
I must resist
no pizza
 
Ven
mmmh pizza
I just ate bacon. but yesterday, I had pizza. so life is still good.
 
pls no ._.
 
Ven
maybe i'll get pizza tomorrow again :o)
 
@AlexM. Are you trying to be "fit", as kids call it these days?
 
7:42 PM
yes
I can eat pizza tomorrow at work I guess but not now
I'll only eat half tho
 
Ven
@AlexM. ..now that's a waste of pizza. get some priorities, son
 
I'll share the rest or sth
today when I noticed I started to stop being hungry I threw the rest of the fries away, get that
makin progress
 
Ven
I'm fat and I don't care. I'll complain about it on tumblr later if I feel like it.
 
@AlexM. Oh come on
Don't insult italians
Just eat pizza
 
tomorrow :<
 
7:48 PM
col formaggio
 
I don't think I eat pizza once a month.
 
crysis sure looked good i.imgur.com/aBjw0c1.jpg
 
@AlexM. That's what not having to run on the hardware of the time gets you ;p
 
user3790646
@Morwenn You should though, it's helped me a lot to gain over 40kgs of weight from last year up to now
 
@Puppy yea crysis was a PC-first title
subsequent console releases looked like crap
 
7:54 PM
@Andrey I don't want to weight 95kg.
 
the PC version of Crysis 2 looked gorgeous to me
 
user3790646
@Morwenn What? Are you telling me you weight 55kg? Oh my goodness, you need to eat more!
 
by subsequent console releases I meant the console versions of crysis 1, to be 100% clear
 
I keep hearing about Unity vs Unreal; but I never heard anything from the Crytek engine in a long time.
 
@Andrey I weight 55kg for 1m64. I'm not especially light or thin.
 
7:56 PM
55kg lol
I've almost 90 :<
1.75 or more
 
user3790646
@Morwenn I used to weight 60kg for 1.81m
 
CryEngine*
 
user3790646
now I'm 106kg
 
@Andrey That on the other hand is rather light.
 
user3790646
that damn hospital in which I was interned made me get to this point
 
7:57 PM
 
@Andrey What happened?
 
user3790646
Hmm, that's too personal to say around so many people
 
@AlexM. Wait
Is that the last Fallout?
 
yes
 
user3790646
is there another way so that I could talk with you about it?
 
7:58 PM
it's a bit ugly haha
 
The one that came out like weeks ago?
 
try days
 
@Andrey Fine.
 
a couple of days
 
@Andrey IRC
 
7:59 PM
@Elyse Does Java not have an @Nullable annotation?
 
The graphic is not all, sure. But dear lord, that shot could have come out of GTA: San Andreas and I wouldn't have even noticed
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow I think there is @NotNull. But I am not sure.
 
They didn't even bothered setting the depth of those windows. It's literally just a texture
 
But I want to annotate one parameter that can be null, for documentation purposes.
FUCK JAVA
 
Doesn't every parameter have the ability to be null?
 
8:01 PM
Yes, but I want to document nullability, not non-nullability.
 
Lol. This is p. funny style: powerfield-software.com/?p=1490
> Full disclosure:

The author of said tool has donated some money to this site, only the second person to ever do so, you tightwads :-).
 
That's implicit. Just annotate those parameters that aren't so it's clear whether one parameter is supposed to be null or not.
 
@Andrey You know, by now this getting somewhat dubious. You keep injecting stuff like this and then backing off. Either you want to overshare, or you don't. This has been pointed out to you in the past.
@Andrey It seems unfair to me to trigger people's genuine interest. Then when people get over their social anxiety and engage, you say you don't want them to. That's stringing people along (for attention?)
 
It's called "vaguebooking" by the way
 
yeah, closely related, not quite the same though
 
8:07 PM
Yup
 
Haydn string quartetts still a blessing for the soul
 
Also, I like it how you managed those message updates in a functional immutable way (by posting a new one and garbage collecting the old one), but it doesn't really apply good in chat
It's not purformant enough
 
T& operator[](int i) [[pre(bad_range{}): 0<I && i< size()]]
{
    return elem[i];
}
dislike
 
@sehe "Of course, Powershell has now pretty much removed that problem" lol
 
Ell
Me too, uggo
I'd prefer it to be part of the type of the param also
 
8:12 PM
precondition violation should not cause throwing exceptions
 
@AndyProwl I prefered the [[ensure: /* */]] and [[expects: /* */]] forms.
 
Depends
 
@Nican It's true. A lot of things are still not on par, but a lot of things in PowerShell are much better than the average POSIX env, likely
 
@AndyProwl why not?
 
@AndyProwl You can change the contract violation handler, right?
 
8:14 PM
@Morwenn Personally I don't care about the form, I just think precondition violation should not cause regular error signalling
@Morwenn You can, but that will only be invoked if you don't specify any exception
I simply think there should be no room for specifying exceptions there
 
I don't like that they throw exceptions either.
 
contract violation should be soft UB
well, narrow contract violation
> Modules (N4465): I would have preferred for the implementers (primarily Gabriel Dos Reis (Microsoft), Richard Smith (Google), and Jason Merrill (Red Hat)) to be locked up in a room without distractions, but many people turned up so that the discussion became more general, more philosophical, more confused, and less constructive.
lol
guess what we aren't going to get
 
Xeo
:(
 
@sehe My problem with PowerShell is that it is a bastard child between shell and C#. It has a bunch of cool features, but writing it can be tiresome.
 
That trip report was fun: « I'm pretty sure I'm right, but people don't seem to agree and it makes me sad ».
 
8:17 PM
For some contract violations, it's good to throw an exception as opposed to just UB or other things.
 
@Nican Oh I agree. I never even bothered learning it yet. But I realize it might be cool to use for some windowsy arrangements
 
@sehe Did you have a look at my code? :)
 
@Borgleader mmm. I did. I think. And now I'm really trying to remember what it was like. Will have a look in a few minutes to refresh my memory (link?)
 
> Unified call syntax (N4474, P0131R0). Based on the discussion of problems and alternatives in P0131R0, half of the proposal was accepted: a call f(x) will find x.f() if there is no freestanding function that can handle f(x)
 
@Borgleader In the mean time:
 
8:21 PM
that's odd
 
> The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.
 
I thought the other way would be more interesting
 
Ell
Does bjarne have veto powers?
 
Technically no
but it seems when he really decides to oppose something he manages - which might be a good thing
 
How does one set a cmake option from "CMakeLists.txt" as if it was specified on the command-line?
All I could find was to use the command-line, which is highly unpreferable
 
8:26 PM
@набиячлэвэлиь set
 
@Nooble Tried that
 
Check Icicle for some neato examples.
It works there, anyway.
 
lol Twitch Plays Undertale is fighting the final boss
 
Аll I need to do is set 2 BOOLs to override subproject defaults without requiring the user to do so themselves
How hard can that fucking be
 
@набиячлэвэлиь I did this in Icicle.
Check Icicle.
 
8:30 PM
Nov 7 at 6:04, by Borgleader
I hope it doesnt wake him up...
 
Icicle is best broken game engine.
 
@Nooble The coolest one, for sure
I needed to add CACHE to set()
wtf cmake
 
@Borgleader Great :) I guess withing 30 mins now
 
@Nooble Any particular reason for spaces before (s in CMakeLists.txt?
 
8:31 PM
@набиячлэвэлиь Stylistic
 
@Nooble So none
good
 
@набиячлэвэлиь Well, check the documentation for CMake.
 
@Borgleader woof woof motherfucker
 
They use spaces for certain things and not for others.
It's the weirdest shit.
 
8:33 PM
@Puppy Oh hai, did you see my rant about llvm example code? :P
 
I don't use USB memory sticks much at all, and wouldn't be trying to keep things secret on them... but I so want one of these
 
no but it's shit and I know it
 
All CMake library calls' (s aren't prefixed with a space
 
that's why you're so fortunate to know The Puppy, Conquerer of LLVM and Clang
 
@набиячлэвэлиь Huh.
I mean for the CMake language scripting thing.
Whatever it's called.
 
8:34 PM
@thecoshman Sucks if you can't set the code yourself
 
You know how you would use a space when you do if ()s?
 
@Nooble Clang?
 
@Nooble no
Never do that
 
And not if you do a function() call?
You're a special kind of weirdo if you don't do that.
 
@Borgleader What exactly is the problem that you have encountered?
 
8:35 PM
@Nooble if(shit) funciton("call");
 
@Nooble We're all weirdos.
 
lol
 
@Jefffrey I mean the language used for CMakeLists.
 
@набиячлэвэлиь well, I wouldn't use it for security, so it's not really an issue. It's just a nice USB, from an aesthetic pov
 
@Nooble It was a joke. A terrible one.
 
8:35 PM
@thecoshman Yeah, but you gotta remember the code
 
@Jefffrey :/
 
@Jefffrey It wasn't bad tbh
 
"What's the scripting language for CMake? Clang."
 
Oh. Hehe.
 
42069 best 5-digit code
 
8:36 PM
@Puppy I found some llvm tutorial by ibm and took code from that (it hand crafted a main function) and then I wanted to run it in the JIT but I didnt manage to (the JIT itself seems to have changed, something to do with orcs?)
 
Seriously though everyone does if ().
 
@набиячлэвэлиь yeah I guess that is a spot annoying
 
@Nooble nobody does that
 
@Borgleader It's probably an infinity out of date, LLVM threw out their original JIT and replaced it with MCJIT.
 
(except you, but you suck)
@Puppy Elelveeem McJit
 
8:37 PM
@набиячлэвэлиь Everyone does that.
 
Oh fuck why are they mixing the if-spaces-convention-thing.
 
@Nooble The syntax highlighting is enough to notice it's not a function
 
> Reason: no space before parentheses (except after a control-flow keyword) is near-universal practice for C++.
A quote from GNU coding standards from 1999
 
> except after a control-flow keyword
 
8:41 PM
@Puppy Yeah, but the orc thing one I got from github directly. So I think that one is more up to date, also the pass manager move from llvm:: to llvm::legacy::
 
I don't put spaces after if or for
 
@Nooble That is nowhere to be found in the above quote
 
> Reason: no space before parentheses (except after a control-flow keyword) is near-universal practice for C++.
 
@milleniumbug :highfive:
> Except after a control-flow keywword
> except after a control-flow keyword
compare ^
 
you're not a parser
 
user406009
8:42 PM
The only true solution is to put a tab after every control-flow keyword.
6
 
There we have it.
 
10/10 coding standard
 
@Borgleader Good because that was a piece of shit
 
I wonder what's the ratio of "this thing sucks"/"this thing is neat" overall in this room
 
user406009
@Jefffrey Depends highly on the person.
 
8:45 PM
@Jefffrey It's higher than Snoop Dogg.
 
> overall in this room
 
user406009
@Jefffrey Also depends on the time of day.
 
@Morwenn lol
 
user406009
You will probably see a big spike in "this sucks" once Puppy and Cat sign on.
 
@набиячлэвэлиь That one is Cicada. He was probably sarcastic
 
@jaggedSpire Are you making people change jobs now?
 
@набиячлэвэлиь but 10704 vs 10642
 
Hi all
 
user406009
@milleniumbug So close!
 
8:49 PM
@sehe thanks for the tip (2 days ago) - i am playing with the concept since then, really fun to use.
 
@milleniumbug He used ", so he wanted exact match
:P
 
HILARIOUS: anyone wanna help me get a captcha right on livecoding.tv/sehe ?
I' dieing here
 
@milleniumbug Does it also take "suck" into account? Because, you know, there are many derivaties of "suck", not so much of "awesome".
 
lol
 
@sehe That sounds like something a bot in control of sehe's account would say
 
8:55 PM
@sehe a 1 could also be l
 
@Morwenn the SO chat search is broken, so no
 
@milleniumbug Indeed :(
 
Ell
Hmm. Do you think the compiler could NOP this ((byte << start) >> start) ?
 
Xeo
might not be a nop
 
Ell
9:03 PM
I want the compiler to not nop it, idk if it's being optimised out or something
 
@Xeo true
 
Ell
I'll google how to ensure no optimisations
ah -O0
I thought I already had that in there -.-
 
@Ell I think the compiler will optimize it to byte & magicnr.
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow using Rust now since C++ sucks: github.com/rightfold/confx/blob/ast/src/ast.rs
 
9:04 PM
@Ell the compiler won't optimize it out if it shouldn't
 
@Johannes those are pretty clear, I think
 
@sehe x2
wow
 
lol
awsome
 
lol gotta do the math
 
do the math :)
 
9:09 PM
That's sooooo stooopid.
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow now, modules just contain a list of imports and a single expression. :)
 
user1804599
If you want to export multiple things, you just write a record literal!
 
Ell
man I don't get it
I substitution p myfunction(a, b, c) for the implementation of myfunction in gcc and it gives different results
 
@sehe does publish mean anything special to git? I have publish/* in my ignore but it still wants to add binaries
 
@Ell It's not a nop if the compiler doesn't know the value of value. It could also be UB. The compiler will probably emit is as a nop and then treat value as being less than the appropriate size.
bah make -j keeps crashing the VM
 
9:16 PM
@sehe oh my god lol
 
Waiting for the day that ad-driven websites require a captcha to read them, and have them randomly fail the captcha at a 50% rate.
 
@Ell i remember seeing something to break out of optimization in this video youtube.com/watch?v=fHNmRkzxHWs
 
+100% increase in page views!
 
@sehe The video will not load for me. It is just an ajax-spinner. :(
 
9:28 PM
im laughing so hard omg youtube.com/watch?v=e8RzKEwb_bA
 
@JohanLarsson the directory is probably already part?
 
how do you mean?
 
It's already added
It won't get autoremoved
 
maybe I forgot
 
@Nican let me test... no problem here
 
9:30 PM
but I feel it should not add new stuff
 
@sehe It's p. wonky
 
@sehe Must be some background resource blocked on CORPNET;
 
@JohanLarsson It should warn you and tell you to use -f
 
@Nican CORPSENET
 
@Nican possible. Also, I'm not sure LC allow two simultaneous streams
 
9:31 PM
But it is a just a recording, right? ;o
...Also, I just really end my last message in a semicolon...
 
@набиячлэвэлиь what does it do? force?
 
@JohanLarsson -f does
without -f it just warns you and tells you to use -f
With sth like "this file is ignored by your .gitignore, to add it anyway use -f"
 
gets is broken?
 
git is broken
 
git is fine, why do you say this
 
9:43 PM
@Nican Yeah, we should all start doing this;
 
except submodules of course
 
@Mr.kbok Exactly.
 
told you :D
 
@StackedCrooked LC is solliciting your feedback in my stream's chat...
 
9:45 PM
boy it takes a long time for a VM to build LLVM with a single core VM.
 
LLneedsmorethanoneVM.
 
cu all
 
@Nooble hi
 
@TonyTheLion hi
 
9:48 PM
@Puppy you are pathetic
 
i am?
 
single core VM
jeez
 
such aggression
 
It's aggressive passion.
 
@TonyTheLion at a friend's house :D
 
9:52 PM
When you're passionate-aggressive.
 
@Nooble ohhh nice
 
look at that creepy face
it says "I'm gonna murder you"
"I'm gonna make you eat your shitty code"
"For I am the punisher @Mr.kbok"
 
@BartekBanachewicz Trying to look interesting by squinting.
 
Ell
that's a kewl face
 
why is everyone digging my pics
 
9:55 PM
Yes you are puppy, but you need not worry
We love you, adore you, you're our great canid buddy.
 
@BartekBanachewicz that's very funny coming from you :)
 
@Nooble woof woof bitch
 
@BartekBanachewicz how did you even find that O.o
 
9:57 PM
@Ell lol dat terrible layout
 
linux kerbal
 
like a spam site
like a keyword CEO farm
 
@Mr.kbok I dont think it was that picture, but I think youve posted a picture of yourself before.
 
@Mr.kbok you linked us to your university or someshit remember
 

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