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5:00 PM
Hey @MrAnubis, how was your maths exam?
Any computer scientist here?
 
@Gigili not so good :)
@Gigili how're ya?
 
@Gigili I work for a CS department, but I do more vision/visualisation than cs theory
 
Not so bad =)
@awoodland Do you know what's the relationship between regular, linear, CF and RE languages?
 
I've only heard of regular, context-free, context-sensitive, and Turing-complete
 
@Gigili Sounds like the Chomsky hierachy although I agree with DeadMG
 
5:04 PM
RE stands for recursively enumerable.
 
user784668
@DeadMG Linear is a special case of CF. And all regular are linear.
 
Within the field of computer science, specifically in the area of formal languages, the Chomsky hierarchy (occasionally referred to as Chomsky–Schützenberger hierarchy) is a containment hierarchy of classes of formal grammars. This hierarchy of grammars was described by Noam Chomsky in 1956. It is also named after Marcel-Paul Schützenberger, who played a crucial role in the development of the theory of formal languages. Formal grammars A formal grammar of this type consists of: * a finite set of terminal symbols * a finite set of nonterminal symbols * a finite set of production ...
there's a table on that (which was hidden by default) which lists way more than I knew of
 
@awoodland Oh great, let me google that.
 
Is there a naming convention for temporary macros that get undef'd after use?
 
Woohooo
That was it:
Thank you very much @awoodland.
@Fanael Are all regular languages linear? but not the other way around?
 
5:08 PM
@Pubby Why do you need a naming convention? They won't collide with anything.
 
user784668
@Gigili Yeah.
 
Thank you.
 
@Potatoswatter I guess I don't.
 
user784668
@Gigili Regular are a subset of linear, which are a subset of context-free, (which are a subset of context-sensitive), which are a subset of recursively enumerable.
 
@Fanael Got it, thank you so much.
 
user784668
5:11 PM
@Gigili You're welcome.
 
2 messages moved to bin
gotta love the bin
 
Any Moderator online?
 
find the Meta tavern and check there
 
@DzekTrek plenty of 10k users in here though depending on what you want
 
I have traced some packets and found out that even though I specifically said not to connect my SO account with a Facebook one they done it
 
5:16 PM
@DzekTrek sure it's not just the "share on facebook" button?
 
stackauth.com%2Fauth%2Foauth2.0%2Ffacebook%2FStack+Overflow%2F( for security reason my hex password is out of the scope for you ) &display=page&response_type=code&fbconnect=1&perms=email&from_login=1
It would be a lot easier if they say it's by rule to connect your SO with FB not just like intruders do it ..
 
@DzekTrek might be worth asking about it on meta then
 
user784668
@awoodland Do not say the m-word.
 
Also I have found that my MAC 64 EUI transmits data of my network card on some of the sites, which means that 18 bits are there to identify you wherever you go, and track you in any condition, even though you change your MAC adress, IP adress or whatever.
Very nice solution, indeed.
 
@DzekTrek what's sharing your EUI 64? Just IPv6? because there's a privacy extension exactly for that
 
5:32 PM
Nah, it would be OK if they share just IPv6, but in that package they also include OUI and many others which kinda threats your privacy.
 
@DzekTrek which package? The FB connect stuff?
 
How they connect SO account with FB one, exactly?
 
Facebook is an OpenID provider
and SO uses OpenID
 
That request above is OAuth, but I can't really see the issue.
 
I don't exactly now, it seems to me that package isn't recognized by any physical layer, and what is even more odd, is that this package is sent only to specific sites, wouldn't name them here for my security reasons.
Well, I have tracked it and it appears that SAuth sends all data to some server of FB located in the middle of nowhere, Alaska( which is even more odd ) and after it, they connect me to some servers in CA
 
5:36 PM
If SO had requested something from FB via OAuth, you'd know about it.
 
if you use Facebook as your OpenID provider, then there's no way that SO could possibly verify your login without checking Facebook
 
OpenID is OpenID, doesn't matter who's the provider.
 
I don't know, to be honest, but that's just what data appears to show.x
it all goes across this site stackauth.com
 
Well, you're just sniffing some packets and guessing.
 
Nah, it all shows very correctly. I don't guess anything.
 
5:40 PM
Delicious paranoia.
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That looks like FB Connect.
 
Yes, but look at the code.
 
I don't get how it leaks your EUI 64 though still - isn't that at layer 2 when FB never get to see the layer 2 stuff
(unless it's v6)
if you've ever logged into facebook on your machine fb connect probably knows who you are on every page that has an fb connect widget
 
Very true, I don't know how it does too. It's a work worth of admire.
 
Is Facebook even available in v6?
 
@CatPlusPlus yeah, they have AAAA records on www.v6.facebook.com
 
5:43 PM
Well, they don't have any AAAA records on main domain.
 
@CatPlusPlus :lol:
 
6:20 PM
@DeadMG what's the bin for? It seems to just have random messages in it
 
6:30 PM
@MooingDuck What part of "It's a bin" don't you understand?
 
user784668
@Pubby I guess he doesn't understand "a".
 
posted on February 15, 2012

When you find ways to make your code faster, those optimizations can cause trouble for people who use your code.

 
@Pubby I know what it is, I want to know why it is.
 
@MooingDuck Room owners can't delete messages, only move them to other rooms.
 
oh, my serial upvotes were revoked :(
@Pubby makes sense. Well, as a workaround.
 
6:51 PM
My question got closed as "off-topic". Where in stackexchange can I go for open-ended questions?
 
@AlanBaljeu Chat is the only place
 
@MooingDuck Interesting... I, on the other hand, got 8 residuals during my 5 hour nap...
 
@AlanBaljeu Here.
 
@Mysticial I only have one remaining upvote from the time of my upvoter. Oh well.
 
I got 4 votes on that 100% CPU question today... interesting. I've haven't such a burst of late residuals on any single answer since... a while.
 
6:57 PM
I don't expect chat would get the same quality of answers as forum postings.
 
Hmm, If I go to customize toolbars in MSVC, under ContextMenus->Project and Solution Context Menus -> Item, I see "compile item" in the menu. Good. However, when I select "Add Command", that option isn't available anywhere. I cannot add "compile item" to any other toolbar/menu.
 
so programmers.stackexchange.com isn't the place either?
 
@AlanBaljeu so find a forum? SO is not the place for open stuff. I usually go to forums.xkcd.com
@AlanBaljeu The stack exchange is not for open questions :(
 
@AlanBaljeu if it's the question I think it is it got re-opened 10 minutes ago
although given you asked about idioms rather than functions or classes I think the answer is more of a "time will tell"
 
thanks all.
 
7:24 PM
SO is not a forum.
 
what is a good programming forum? after some weeks on SO, I think I like forums better
 
@bamboon I use forums.xkcd.com/viewforum.php?f=30, but it's not incredibly active.
 
ready for it? I still don't have this java problem solved...if anyone wishes to help, please come here: chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/7709/… Its almost done and at its last stage.
 
humm why does nobody seem to use C++ native boolean type?
 
Because you're reading C with classes code?
 
It's probably very old code. C++ didn't have the bool type in the early days.
 
humm
but since 98 or did older VS versions not support it?
 
C++ has had bool since 1989 if I'm not mistaken. So standard C++ had always had it.
 
@Nils A lot of things are called C++ which are really C (with a few C++ features here than there)
@Nils actually, that doc reminds me, it's common for cross-language compatibility. Namely, everyone uses c-type function calls, and C doesn't (didn't?) have bool.
 
C99 has _Bool or something, I believe.
 
7:43 PM
@MooingDuck It still doesn't. C99's bool is just a typedef.
 
@FredOverflow right, but not bool
 
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Q: C99 boolean data type?

EonilWhat's the C99 boolean data type and how to use it?

> bool expands to _Bool
 
Wondering if the Doom3 code did use any new C++ features.. but I'm too lazy to check :D
 
Having read other id software code, it's probably C with classes. Don't get your hopes up ;)
Quake3 was still pure C, wasn't it?
i  = 0x5f3759df - ( i >> 1 );   // what the fuck?
Haha, that one's a classic.
 
sbi
1 message moved to bin
Zing!
 
7:47 PM
Ouch.
 
sbi
Evil Grin
 
Isn't that admin abuse?
 
IMO, good C++ code is better than good C code, but bad C++ can be much, much worse than bad C code.
I don't like Carmack.
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sbi
@EtiennedeMartel How could it be, when I am not even admin? :)
 
@sbi You're the closest thing this room has to an admin, I think.
(Don't tell anyone, but I don't like the diamond mods very much)
 
7:49 PM
@EtiennedeMartel few people in this room do. Careful though, some are still here
 
Your secret is safe with me.
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel You shouldn't say this while @Shog is still here.
Oops.
 
@sbi He seems to be the only one left from the war
 
@sbi still not a mod... ;-P
 
7:50 PM
It's okay. @Shog is one of the good ones.
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel I am so sorry, I just couldn't resist. I might be in a foul mood tonight. (Also sorry to @mootinator.)
 
(But am a Carmack fan, so you can hate me for that)
 
sbi
@Shog9 Did I say you were?
 
Oh hey, you're here defending your non-mod status ;)
 
sbi
@Shog9 We wouldn't need an excuse to hate a member of the meta police. :^)
 
7:51 PM
@mootinator Hey, mootinator. Tavern's been really slow lately
 
So much so I've leaked into a room devoted to a language I wasn't allowed to use the last time an appropriate opportunity arose.
 
@sbi Grab a beer, everything's going to be fine.
 
@Shog9 I was kind of a Carmack fan until I started reading his code.
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sbi
So @Shog, what are you employing SFINAE for? And have you embraced lambda already? Oh, and can you tell me what are rvalues, lvalues, xvalues, glvalues, and prvalues? I'm a bit hazy on all those.
 
right, left, extended, generalized left and primary values, IIRC
 
sbi
7:54 PM
@EtiennedeMartel What a wonderful idea! But then I also have this pretty decent port here. Mhmm. This is going to be a tough decision.
 
FOLK
does my new pic look scary?
i look angry?
 
@JohannesSchaublitb In medias res. You do sound angry
 
@JohannesSchaublitb More like "stern"/"troubled"
 
what does "in medias res" mean?
 
7:56 PM
@JohannesSchaublitb Google it?
 
@sbi Flip a coin.
 
In medias res or medias in res (into the middle of things) is a Latin phrase denoting the literary and artistic narrative technique wherein the relation of a story begins either at the mid-point or at the conclusion, rather than at the beginning (cf. ab ovo, ab initio), establishing setting, character, and conflict via flashback or expository conversations relating the pertinent past. The main advantage of in medias res is to open the story with dramatic action rather than exposition which sets up the characters and situation. Because it is a feature of the style in which a story is stru...
 
@FredOverflow Well I tend to agree with Carmack..
 
@sbi Nothing - I avoid writing templates except when macros fail me. Holding off on lambdas until I can drop support for older compilers.
 
sbi
@sehe Erm. You shouldn't use your sock puppet to reply to questions asked to you, @Shog. That kind of makes it so obvious, you know.
 
7:57 PM
hmm
 
@JohannesSchaublitb Why the dutch tilt?
 
C++ code written by somebody who doesn't know how to use it is nearly useless..
 
@Nils Ha nice. A new flame topic. I say it calls for Rum or Wodka, really, @sbi?
 
sbi
@Nils Heretic!
@Shog9 Heretic!
@sehe Heretic!
 
lol
 
7:58 PM
Carmack is cool.
 
@FredOverflow Ah, and see... I first learned C reading the source for the DOOM level editor
 
Carmack is still around?
 
(which was Objective-C, but whatever)
 
well but C code written by a Java programmer also not
 
@Pubby i don't understand.
what's a dutch tilt
i'm not dutch im german
 
8:00 PM
@JohannesSchaublitb Google it?
Dutch tilt, Dutch angle, Dutch shot, oblique angle, German angle, canted angle, Batman angle, or jaunty angle (in non-cinematic static photography) are terms used for one of many cinematic techniques often used to portray the psychological uneasiness or tension in the subject being filmed. A Dutch angle is achieved by tilting the camera off to the side so that the shot is composed with vertical lines at an angle to the side of the frame. Many Dutch angles are static shots, but in a moving Dutch angle shot the camera can pivot, pan or track along the director/cinematographer's established ...
 
Use a German tilt then!
 
@JohannesSchaublitb I'm sure you prefer the term "Batman angle"
 
@mootinator Yeah, he even wrote two articles for #AltDevBlogADay.
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel In the end I decided for a Pinot blanc I had in the fridge. It better fits tonight's mood. However, since wine has so much more alcohol than beer, this might mean I'll soon type as @Alf does. :)
 
8:01 PM
@sbi We'll warn you when you approach @thecoshman levels, ape
 
sbi
@ID_AA_Carmack, Dallas, TX
Founder and technical director of Id Software (Wolfenstein, Doom, Quake, Rage) and Armadillo Aerospace
1.1k tweets, 46.2k followers, following 32 users
@sehe But @thecosh isn't mistyping, he is misspelling. That's a huge difference!
Now everyone is gone reading Carmack's tweets. Darn.
(Allowed me to sneak this one in.)
 
@EtiennedeMartel Silly me, I had him confused with Romero just now.
 
@Pubby you mean why my face is not completely vertical?
i think i didn't take the pic completely straight
 
@sbi We can see the history on that one, m8
 
@JohannesSchaublitb Your new pic suggests that you switched from "template god" to "party god".
 
8:05 PM
hmm
 
Bob
Hello
 
@Nils You agree with Carmack on what issue?
 
@FredOverflow why is it a party pic
 
@JohannesSchaublitb Your hair, the background, the tilted angle.
 
hmm i don't understand
 
sbi
8:06 PM
But you also look pretty grim. Plus your brows are down in the middle.
 
Bob
When doing test driven development, should you note down what your classes are going to do, or should you just start writing the class?
 
the background doesn't look particularly uncommon
 
@FredOverflow Well good C++ requires more skill, so I tend to. However writing good C code is also not simple (but the language is simpler)..
 
sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb Not party-cularly uncommon.
 
Anyway, you lost a lot of nerd factor with the new picture. Is this good or is this bad? Yes :)
 
Bob
8:06 PM
Such as: Car class, must be able to drive, stop etc
 
@sbi Zing
 
@sbi Ba-dum-tish.
 
Bob
When doing test driven development, should you note down what your classes are going to do, or should you just start writing the class? Such as: Car class, must be able to drive, stop etc
 
iNaN.
i'm Not a Nerd
 
8:08 PM
@Shog9 You prefer macros to templates? You are hereby forever banished from the C++ lounge.
@Bob You should start writing the tests.
 
So @FredOverflow assuming Carmack didn't release his code you would still be a fan? :D
 
Bob
@FredOverflow Yes, but do you write the test based on functionality that may be written down on paper....if you get what I mean (personal project)
 
sbi
@Nils That's nonsense. Have a look at some Koenig/Moo style C++ and then have the guts to tell us that's not more readable than any C program doing the same. And then look at some macro hackery in C and tell us that's not so much worse than TMP with a straight face. No, if there is C++ that's worse than C, it's precisely the style Carmack himself uses — C with Classes.
 
@Nils Let's say I was a fan of his ability to push hardware to the limits.
 
Ooh ooh, can I make an outlandish statement involving not understanding what on earth we would ever need objects for when plain old structs work fine in a pinch?
 
Bob
8:09 PM
@FredOverflow Like, do you deside what each class can do upfront?
 
@Shog9 C++ is still case sensitive, and the preprocessor is largely shared with C99
 
@sehe dammit
 
sbi
@Shog9 Macro hackery is not welcome here.
 
@Bob You decide what the class has to offer by writing the tests. Your test class is an executable specification, if you will.
 
sbi
1 message moved to bin
:P
 
8:10 PM
bad habits sneaking in still. See, this is why I gave up programming.
 
Well the Quake 1 code probably was a mess, but they went through with it and finished the game.
 
@Shog9 you whaaaat
 
@sbi link?
 
@Shog9 Also, C++ does not know how to conjugate verbs :)
 
@sehe As of last friday
 
sbi
8:11 PM
@Nils What?
 
(sry @Nils, darn scrolling chats. Should have shortcut keys to target replies)
 
@sehe there's a chat script for that around here somewhere
 
@Nils id software only had like 2 or 3 programmers back in the days, right?
 
sbi
@sehe There's an app UserScript for that.
 
@sbi " Have a look at some Koenig/Moo style C++"
 
8:12 PM
@FredOverflow We could get somewhere with user defined literals, perhaps
 
@Shog9 Finally! The StackExchange codebase is free from @Shog's tyranny. Or something.
 
@Pubby "The angle was widely used to depict madness, unrest, exoticness, and disorientation in German Expressionism, hence its name (Deutsch, meaning German"
 
sbi
@Nils No need to. I've read the book.
 
@Shog9 Great. Synergy. Cross pollination of ideas. I like that. How. What. Where. Link?
 
@mootinator Oh, lord no - any damage there due to me was never because I had direct access to it
 
8:13 PM
@MooingDuck It fits well then!
 
@FredOverflow Michael Abrash did also quite a lot I read..
 
Heh, okay then =)
 
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Q: SE Chat Modifications -- Keyboard navigation and commands for chat

Tim Stone Screenshot Use /command shortcuts to perform common chat tasks: See message history inline: Easily preview replied-to messages: And much, much more... About Legends tell of a prolific Meta Stack Overflow chatter who despised using their mouse above all things. In an effort to keep t...

 
@Nils Who is Michael Abrash, an id software programmer?
 
8:14 PM
@sbi Yeah but comparing book code to real code is not really fair..
 
@Nils low-level optimizations - wrote a fantastic series of articles and a book on it
 
@FredOverflow yeah check wikipedia
 
@sbi woah. no one ever told me about those. I reckon I might be out of luck with my browser preferences (Opera)
 
@Nils His curriculum vitae sounds really interesting!
 
@sehe Opera supports userscripts. No telling if they used non-opera-friendly stuff in the script itself, but you should at least be able to install it and find out.
 
8:16 PM
@FredOverflow yeah :)
like he worked for id just for fun
 
Wow, he worked for Video Seven, Microsoft and id software.
 
now for Valve
 
Ah, takes me back to the time when every programmer was writing his own 3D engine with critical inner loops written in assembly language :)
 
sbi
@Nils I read Accelerated C++ — a beginner's book of 250pages, mind you —, after I had been doing C++ for almost a decade, was already dabbling in template meta-programming, and had been teaching C++ for years. I read it in order to teach better, but the book struck me like a lightning bolt, and totally changed my way of programming C++ (for the better).
I had heard Stroustrup say that "there's a much better language inside C++ struggling to get out", and I thought I agreed to it, but after reading Koenig/Moo I realized that before that I didn't even know what Stroustrup had meant.
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What was the revelation? Starting with high-level concepts like strings and vectors?
I even remember doing fixed-point matrix multiplication in x86 assembly. Those were the days :)
 
sbi
8:21 PM
@FredOverflow For teaching, this was putting the thing on its feet, yeah. After I had read it I wondered why anyone ever thought you couldn't teach usage of templates until you had taught all their innards. What nonsense!
 
0
Q: Algorithm to Determine Maximum Fun

LinellThe problem itself can be found here. The gist of it is that Bessie is riding a roller coaster, but she gets dizzy. What is the maximum amount of fun she can have without going over her "dizzy limit." The input consists of: "N K L where N (1 ≤ N ≤ 1,000) is the number of sections in this partic...

 
@Nils Have you read this book?
 
@FredOverflow no, I also haven't read accelerated C++. Just Scott Meyers..
 
If you're an id fan, you must read the book. I devoured it in a matter of hours. Absolutely fascinating.
Note: it won't teach you anything about programming :)
 
Hrmph. I'm becoming old, lazy and cynical, I don't want to read about some young hipsters.
 
8:26 PM
lol
So I'll try to do some programming
before going to bed
cu
 
sbi
@Nils I'd much rather try to go to bed before doing some programming.
@sehe So? And how many of you did? See.
 
morning
 
sbi
@DeadMG You already said that today, about 10hrs ago.
 
oh, ok
 
8:44 PM
@sbi You're a ninja
 
sbi
@sehe No. Just by looking at me you can tell I'm about the opposite of a ninja. You can ask @Xeo, @Tony, @Konrad, and others.
 
Fuck Ninjas. Pirates are the shit.
 
@sbi Hah. Keep up the act. Everyone knows (especially you, sbi) that Ninja are exactly about that: being stealth, hiding out in the open, doing the unexpected
 
sbi
@sehe I really urge you to ask one of those who've met my in RL. You're in for a disappointment.
 
@sbi Honestly, I think it more that people have the wrong idea of what a ninja is :)
 
8:52 PM
@sbi There's a reason most "ninja" tools are slightly modified farm instruments. The "farmers" out there were actually assassins.
 
sbi
@MooingDuck Farmers rarely ever had my weight. :(
 
@sbi That's not it. Look further. Weight has nothing to do with it
 
// WHY PEOPLE WRITE SUCH CODE??!

if(WSAStartup( 0x202, &wsaData ) != 0)
    is_socket_started = false;
else
    is_socket_started = true;
 
@sbi Actually, ninjas wore normal clothes. When they had to be stealthy at night, they wore dark blue clothes.
@Abyx Wait, is there a situation where you don't need sockets?
 
@EtiennedeMartel I mean if () x = true; else x = false;
 
9:00 PM
@Abyx Oh.
 
sbi
Wow. Cisco objects to MS buying Skype.
 
Well, well.
What's their reason?
 
sbi
The German news magazine's online site I read that at said it's likely that Cisco fears their own online telephony service (which I had never heard of and immediately forgotten) will become irrelevant. Of course, Cisco says they don't want to hinder the merger, they just think there should have been conditions MS would have to meet.
 
@Abyx May I propose is_socket_started = !WSAStartup( 0x202, &wsaData )?
 
sbi
Wow, technically, this is just fucking brilliant. (Ask @Abyx about the meaning, if you cannot follow.)
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel That seems a very healthy state of mind.
 
@FredOverflow I'd preferred is_socket_started = WSAStartup( 0x202, &wsaData ) != FALSE, as more explicit error checking
 
@sbi It seems to be about Putin in prison? :)
 
@sbi it's fake. sorta funny.
 
sbi
@Abyx Of course, but it's a brilliant fake!1
 
9:11 PM
@sbi Yeah, it's a long story.
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel tl;dr (There's only one third left in that bottle.)
 
@sbi Did they shop Putin's face over someone else?
 
sbi
@FredOverflow Allegedly (SPON) Michail Chodorkowski.
 
@sbi You're slow.
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel Hey, I have kids to watch over. If I'm rolling under the table, I'd be a bad father. Under those conditions, drinking two thirds...oops!...three quarters of a bottle of wine on your own in the evening is quite daring.
 
9:16 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Pedophile!
 
@mootinator Yeah, that must be it.
 
I knew it.
 
I voted NDP in the last elections. So of course I'm a future sex offender.
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sbi
Isn't a newspaper called "Sun" to be seen skeptical nowadays?
 
@EtiennedeMartel I can't agree more.
 
9:18 PM
@sbi Yep. Especially that one. But that article is good.
Awww, man, now my reputation is going to be ruined.
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel I see 11.4k for you. Is there any problem?
 
Cmon, being outed as an NDP voter never ruined anyone's reputation.
 
@sbi Not that kind of rep.
@mootinator I meant the pinning of that quote.
 
I know
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel Yeah, right, you're not an owner, are you? So you cannot unpin this. I am so sorry for you.
 
9:21 PM
But hey, it's not that bad. Now my name is at the top of the list!
I'm going to be famous. As a sex offender, but famous nonetheless.
 
I voted for myself in 2008. I'm the only candidate I agreed with that year.
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel Yeah, but what for!
 
Oh man, I walked in on this Java guy's invitation. What a can of worms:
 
@mootinator I voted Bloc in 2008.
 
> I'm not willing to accept that you cannot use float. It flies in the face of logic. Just tell your prof. If he wants you to parse floats from text and calculate using them, he would have given you a different exercise.
 
9:22 PM
@EtiennedeMartel now you should wait for serial downvoters who will ruin your rep
 
@MooingDuck saw more of that particular question
 
@Abyx Hold on, I'll post a link to this chatroom on smalldeadanimals.com
 
^ This school lunch police in the US reminds me of the meta police here on SO.
 
sbi
@mootinator 2nd try:
 
So sloooow.
 
sbi
9:25 PM
> A preschooler at West Hoke Elementary School ate three chicken nuggets for lunch Jan. 30 because a state employee told her the lunch her mother packed was not nutritious.
> The girl’s turkey and cheese sandwich, banana, potato chips, and apple juice did not meet U.S. Department of Agriculture guidelines, according to the interpretation of the agent who was inspecting all lunch boxes in her More at Four classroom that day.
@AlfPSteinbach Haha!
Oh, @Alf, this really wouldn't have been necessary!
 
@sbi y u kill cat ._.
 
sbi
@Raynos Yeah, blame the messenger!
 
@Raynos just for the pic, i guess
 
sbi
@AlfPSteinbach Note that the cat is lying at the side of a road, and that I have never even had a driving license.
Well, I'll have another glass of Pinot blanc then, and go to bed! Good night.
 
@sbi This image was flagged. The hell?
 
9:35 PM
@EtiennedeMartel several times
 
Cats are srs bsns on the Interwebs.
 
flags won't revive that cat
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I don't think, I just write.
 
Paperback wriiiiiter
 
9:39 PM
oh wait, was it the @Cat ?!
 
@Abyx Probably not, since he's not a cat.
 
ah... he's white, as I remember
 
@sbi Oooh cute little cat! Oh wait..
 
@AlfPSteinbach if anyone read the sources of this story, the sources have been updated to say that there was no government official involved, merely the lunch staff at the school, and that they expected her to eat the chicken and her lunch, but the four year old misunderstood.
 
9:53 PM
Editor's note, Feb. 15: The first two paragraphs of this story were updated. Neither DHHS nor school officials would identify the person who inspected the homemade lunches and decided they did not meet USDA guidelines.
I seriously doubt there was an official involved
 
Let's hope.
 
@AlfPSteinbach Crazy Americans.
 
Are we really critizicing uninspected lunches not meeting american lunch standards now? It's like critizising an atheists wardrobe going to sunday church.
 
@CaptainGiraffe too many negatives, lemme read that a third time :/
 
@MooingDuck uum, one not? =) Edit: oh, the a-.
 
9:58 PM
@CaptainGiraffe and "un-"
"are we really critizicing" isn't quite a negative, but it sounds like one
 
@MooingDuck my bad. Not native. (me++). Yep another one.
 

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