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13:00
@wilx Wording not good enough? :P
@AndyProwl Indeed! :D
I think it will be accepted
The best thing is, the upgrade worked without problems on my home laptop.
cl.exe
memory max is 2.5gb
Why does it need that much memory, anyway
They don't even have an AST
13:05
VS2013 took 11 GB to build one of our projects
no idea why
I don't know that's crazy
>tfw clang compiled your project and gcc is still installing itself
Xeo
Xeo
that face when
or the
feel
Xeo
Xeo
13:07
or that
md fail too
@AndyProwl tfw.
It's a dumb acronym of a dumb meme
@Mr.kbok eh?
> markdown fail
13:09
@Mr.kbok It's explicit greentext
found it
> makes quote, and > > makes greentext
@Griwes Where was it
it tries to uninstall plasma-desktop because kubuntu-desktop is uninstalled
BECAUSE I UNINSTALLED FIREFOX WHAT KIND OF FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT IS THE MAINTAINER OF THAT FUCKING PACKAGE
~~~APT~~~
@Griwes lel
~~~Bieduntu~~~
why the fuck is firefox a dependency of kubuntu-desktop
13:10
do you need an image viewer let me install postfix first
user1804599
~~~APL~~~
fooled again. Why do I keep forgetting it's Friday? ;~;
~~~~~~~~~
The Pact has quaggan commanders officers ._.
~~~._.~~~
13:16
I'm totally confused now: how can I eliminate the usage of naked news and deletes, when a constructor can throw errors? How can use RAII when at the end of a try block the temporarily created object seized to exist? Here is my example of what exactly I'm talking about..
it is very likely I'm missing somethign pretty obvious here..
@PeterVaro std::unique_ptr and std::make_unique
and shared_ptr and make_shared
@PeterVaro You cout in try block
@Elyse Very well played, indeed
13:17
@AnalPhabet && @jaggedSpire let me check those one sec
@Elyse sonuva-
@Elyse GFC. I hate you! :D
@PeterVaro You're using exceptions just as if they were return codes
that's silly
@milleniumbug that was just an example => imagine that cout is a very long code block there
two times in five minutes
user1804599
13:18
Exceptions imply partiality.
I should go back to bed
user1804599
Partial functions suck.
uuuu uuuuu yeaaaaah yeaaaaah yeaaaaaah
user1804599
Write total functions.
yeaaah yeaaaah yeaaaaahyeaayeayeayaahahhhhhhhhhh
13:18
@Elyse papfs are great
@GregorMcGregor like a black widow baby
@jaggedSpire It's almost always an excellent idea.
kicking in the front seat
@milleniumbug I'm trying to avoid that, however, "flat is better than nested"
13:19
@Morwenn but I need to go to work today. :|
user1804599
Checked exceptions are fine though.
or maybe I should just make my stylesheet turn any link that refers to that site red
@jaggedSpire You cannot do that without following every link ever
@AnalPhabet nah, I'd just mark the obvious ones
@jaggedSpire lame
13:21
@jaggedSpire I'm sorry for you :(
@PeterVaro Why are you displaying instance value if it's invalid anyway
@AnalPhabet that's nothing. I'm doing a git svn fetch and need something like 8gigs!
@Morwenn truly, my life is tragic
13:22
svn sucks monkey cock
hence git svn :P
it's a migration
gud4you
@jaggedSpire Friendship is Tragic.
3
wasn't there like a thing cloning an SVN repo for two months
for I never have the decision between kicking in the front seat or singing in the back seat on my way to work
@Morwenn LaTeX is friendship
13:24
@Elyse I'm so tempted to kick you :P
Therefore, LateX is Tragic
user1804599
@milleniumbug wrong
user1804599
catches too many exceptions
user1804599
it catches exceptions thrown by << which is undesired
user1804599
what you need instead is try expressions
user1804599
13:25
(or Either, really; much more flexible)
it catches the exceptions I want to catch
Git LFS promo video is hilarious
Doing catch(const std::exception& ex) or catch(...) would be silly
user1804599
it also catches the exceptions you don't want to catch
user1804599
try bodies must be as narrow as possibly possible
user1804599
13:26
they must not contain any code from which catching is undesired
@Elyse that would mean the exception hierarchy is badly designed
@Elyse inb4 humans
@Elyse the example is too abstract to decide that
@milleniumbug why are you arguing with rigidfold
whats the name of this: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
13:28
lenny faec
@Mr.kbok pony face ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@Mr.kbok lennyface
@Elyse whoah..
user1804599
I.e. F#, OCaml and Scala ftw.
user1804599
13:29
Statements are limited and must die.
Scala ftw
@Elyse :)
@Elyse s/Statements/You/
user1804599
Expression master race.
inb4 rip rigidfold
13:31
which is silly because intrusive as fuck
and rfold cannot into formatting
also who cares about exception data
work time. Farewell, Loungeites!
@jaggedSpire Requiescat in pace, Jagged
user1804599
Exceptions are dynamically typed and hard to work with.
user1804599
13:33
Fuck them.
user1804599
They have no benefits at all.
inb4 make a "rfold rants" room and move everything there
@Elyse Neither do you
@Elyse mach7
user1804599
What is mach7?
pattern matching for C++
13:36
inb4 rfold.drool
user1804599
oh
With macros in PascalCase.
user1804599
CamelCase
OCaml_case
It's so nice of microsoft to delete closed bugs on connect.
There was a presentation during CppCon2015 that proposed a more modern pattern-matching solution.
13:38
Lounge C++ Asylum has 186 followers. Wat
user1804599
Telkitty bought followers for you.
user1804599
@Morwenn lol adding even more cruft to C++
@Elyse obviously manual error propagation is easier to work with... NOT.
@Elyse It was a library solution.
user1804599
Who said anything about manual error propagation?
13:40
@TonyTheLion sockpuppets
user1804599
Ever heard of combinators?
user1804599
@Morwenn cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
wtf is that
a function or definition with no free variables.
hmmm, I don't think this is it
user1804599
Functions such as map and monadic bind make error propagation easy without dynamic typing and without inflexible language structures.
@Elyse Best tutorial you've ever written
Monads one was good, too
13:41
@milleniumbug O kombinatorach nie słyszał?
@AnalPhabet nie, nie słyszał
polishjoek
5 minutes into someone else’s Angular.js project https://t.co/fgHZ5GUkT3
@milleniumbug O paczajcie, polskie ołwerlordy.
@Griwes slow claps
13:44
Aaaah, my sorting network 28 uses 159 compare-exchange blocks while it should ony use 157 of them :(
user1804599
haha u suk
@melak if the bugs are deleted you can't reopen them!
@R.MartinhoFernandes I also can't help this poor sod still using 2013 by checking in what version/update a bug was fixed that I remember reporting
@Elyse you can do that already, albeit with a less sexy syntax
user image
3
SCNR
inb4 you could've totally seen a part of that image with the tree in front of it
user1804599
13:56
@Mr.kbok lambdas and HOFs :p
hall of fames
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hal of flames
user406009
@Elyse That looks like rust
Ell
Ell
14:11
ah fek me I'm awkward
@Ell How so?
@Ell me too
Ell
Ell
@Morwenn I messaged the wrong person on facebook
ie got their last name confused
and now I have to do the "oops I meant the other one..." :P
Haha, it happens :D
Ell
Ell
It's so awkward man
how do I recover
I can't
14:13
Task done, I can slack (happily)
Ell
Ell
1
Q: Customer doesn't like the term "business logic"

Ed PlunkettI've been hired to do contract programming work for a small non-profit social services organization. In the initial meeting, I used the phrase "business logic" and my contact at the non-profit became very upset, stating that it's "not a business" and "you don't use business logic on homeless peop...

^lol
@Ell so silly
@Ell You can feel the butthurt (cc @GregorMcGregor)
@Ell "hey can I take you to the restaurant? :3 " "sure I'd love to" " oops sorry wrong person"
Ell
Ell
@Mr.kbok lol yeah
it's more like "hey I want to chat to you about something" "oh cool, I enjoy social interactions with you also", "oh wait sorry wrong person"
14:19
is there any evidence that Java is on decline?
it was always shit so it's not really getting worse
user1804599
@Ell lol
you don't use business logic on homeless people.
hehe
@Borgleader <3 <3 <3
@Ell domain logic
this guy sucks
14:30
inb4 don't be so sexist @Martin btw glad you're okay & sorry for stalking your wife — Lightness Races in Orbit 1 min ago
wait what
@Ell haha
I don't use the term "business logic" either. It's horrible. — Lightness Races in Orbit 9 mins ago
I'll start using "evil capitalistic corporate logic"
@Columbo xD
@TonyTheLion I SWEAR I'M NOT GONNA DO IT AGAIN!
Have mercy!
14:39
liar
@Columbo <3
Haha it becomes so obvious on the starboard
@Columbo it's the first one I've clicked on; well done ^^
I've clicked on all of them
@TonyTheLion <3
@AndyProwl I actually like to watch that song with some kind of morbid fascination
14:42
@Columbo today I set my record, 1:57 before closing with anger
never went beyond 1 minute before
soon I'll be able to watch it till the end
@AndyProwl Have you seen the parody
lol
I'm 13 years old and driving!
it's awesome
lol 44 million views
everybody's Russian!
hahaha
user1804599
Breaks if throwing returns none_type.
really?lol
wait
user1804599
14:49
vOv
user1804599
Fuck special cases.
throwing doesn't return none_type, the lambda does
user1804599
You need an extra wrapper.
user1804599
@Mr.kbok You obviously want to abstract this into a HOF to prevent it from becoming a pattern.
yeah, and the pattern matching too. but you'd need more reflection for that
user1804599
14:52
template<typename E, typename F>
either<E, decltype(std::declval<F>()())> try_(F f) {
    try { return right(f()); } catch (E e) { return left(e); }
}
it's too rigid. you can't catch several exception types
Ell
Ell
Make them polymorphic
also there's no control of the catch block you want a translation because otherwise you're just writing the catch block somewhere else
@JohanLarsson nice, but why the gas mask? :p
user1804599
14:59
Wpf
@melak47 meant to draw a surprised designer skull
@Elyse yeah I should caps it
  _        _
_| |      | |_
|_ \      / _|
  \ \____/ /
   \/_  _\/
    \*  */
     |/\|
     /__\
    /\__/\
  _/ /  \ \_
 |_ /    \ _|
  |_|    |_|
much better, lol
@Mr.kbok unicode ftw
@Columbo I'm waiting for a black metal version :D
@JohanLarsson how does it work?
Click the button and it runs this
Gonna automate it so it kills the designer on rebuild next
15:12
ok
why is the WPF designer crashing?
assuming, thats the reason for forcefully closing it?
user1804599
      ⊃¨ 'Hello, world!' 'ello, world!' 'llo, world!' 'lo, world!' 'o, world!' ', world!' ' world!' 'world!' 'orld!' 'rld!' 'ld!' 'd!' '!'

Hello, world!
user1804599
APL is awesome.
@edition It is not crashing but it is broken in more ways than I can imagine. There are many reasons to have a fast way to restart it.
Process GetProcessesByName "XDesProc" forEach {_.kill()}
Not sure if the {} are necessary
Scala ftw
user1804599
15:24
You can use parentheses instead if that makes you feel good.
what about JAML instead of XAML for WPF?
oh, nevermind, pointless idea. There are no foreseeable performance benefits (that I can think of) with defining UI elements in JSON instead of XML.
Mar 31 '11 at 18:36, by Jerry Coffin
@FredOverflow What nonsense -- the OS for the universe is written in a couple dozen lines of APL.
@edition they are very differents things
@Mr.kbok I tried.
@edition Startup time might be improved--it's quicker and easier to parse JSON than XML (not to mention JSON tends to start out with less overhead anyway).
15:27
:')
it's marginal, though
@TonyTheLion <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 Enjoy your friday :D
@Columbo Coming from him thats hilarious
... you guys are getting creative with this >.> wp sir, wp
heheh
also fuck you :P
@TonyTheLion lame
Ell
Ell
15:38
Fuckin 'ell mate I love scones!
this day needs to end... so tired
:26464778 Mating is exactly what's not happening in this case...
@Borgleader mee too, omg tgif
Ell
Ell
15:44
Scones give me wings
@Ell Sorry, but not--those are love handles.
Downvoting as a punishment for me not adding his suggestion is trolling to me. — arney 1 min ago
@EtiennedeMartel Y U POST PICS OF ATTACKER???
:(
@Mysticial I missed the joke :c
15:50
@BoltClock You didn't get it? Then I fail at sarcasm.
Ell
Ell
@EtiennedeMartel they should ban all swords.
When my fanny aches, I stand up and go for a walk. You should try this. Alternatively, here's a quicker solution to your problem vine.co/v/eduaMJ6r6WHWill 1 min ago
fanny
lel
@BoltClock Hi :3
@BoltClock lol
15:54
@Borgleader :3
:3 <--- what is emoticon?
@TonyTheLion >:3
doesn't explain it :(
it's a cat smile
15:56
>:3 looks like a lion smile
^ instrumental metal
quite good imho
@milleniumbug oh I see
@TonyTheLion instrumetal?
@BoltClock no singing
they don't have a singer
@TonyTheLion no no, instru-metal
oh lel
I misread
Ell
Ell
15:59
:3 is a kittens mouth thing
@TonyTheLion Ow yeah :D
@Morwenn :) :D
Even though I prefer On Impulse. But still, Animals as Leaders is a great djent band.
I only discovered them recently
I'm into Five Finger Death Punch a lot, if you wanna talk about metal bands
and Lamb of God <3
@TonyTheLion I only know their remix of House of the Rising Sun.
Annd the only song from Lamb of God I listen to from time to time is the mashup of Redneck with Ke$ha's Tik Tok x)
16:07
I'm quite into Slipknot's latest album too
I'm not sure about Trivium's new album though, I think I liked their previous album better
<3
When you see it
@TonyTheLion We listen to pretty different metal bands then :p
@Borgleader Aw :3
@Morwenn Apparently. <3
@Borgleader aww
16:09
We're still awing at cute cat pictures. We will never grow up ._____.
They cute, what do you want?
Of course we awww
I think next time Bartek intensifies, we should just flood the room with kitten pics
I don't care, I'll always be small anyway :D
@Morwenn Acient Egyptians worshipped cats, and we still do. Why are you realizing this now? :P
@Borgleader Worshipping? No, we have a far more insane relationship with cats.
@Morwenn Worshipping is insane ;)
16:11
That's to say how much insane we are.
No one can resist the cuteness response
It's better than warshipping.
const double _Ans = ::_Stodx(_Ac, &_Ep,
			_Getffld(_Ac, _First, _Last,
				_Iosbase.getloc()), &_Errno);
ok
dat indent doe
@Mr.kbok where's that from?
16:16
@TonyTheLion some standard library
possibly an iostream
Was the coder drunk and falling to the right off an office chair?
@TonyTheLion dinkumware operator>>
Now I'm pretty fucked and not sure what to do.
@Matt You should do that in the comments. "Clean comments" is not a thing you should want. — zwol 9 mins ago
Incoming flood of shitposting in 3... 2... 1...
16:21
Damn... Game programmer making tests with variadic templates o.o see, we can be advanced ;)
@Matt Comments should not be second class citizens, and everyone who endorses their second-class-ness is wrong. — zwol 5 mins ago
^^ Trying to hold back my temptation to make a very inappropriate your mom joke.
Beer time again.
See you another period.
Shameless self-plug: Carrotting Brain just launched.
21
The split-screen multiplayer supports up to 6 players.
wowzers
16:32
@milleniumbug Robot has 6 monitors, so he could load up the entire game by himself :)
user1804599
16:45
hi
@ElimGarak cool
@ElimGarak I hope vivendi buys them
ubisoft doesn't deserve autonomy
Yeah, they're seriously trying too hard. And it's the same tired old game with a high score because of SJW bullshit.
(actually I just want them to be annoyed I don't really care about the autonomy thing lol)
(I know ubisoft is worried that vivendi is buying their shares like crazy)
16:48
That will be a glorious day. :D
Less than 20 days until Fallout 4, though. Man, I need a good game in my life. Besides Carroting Brain, that is. <3
This night is going to be all writing announcements and press emails
god
Speaking of reasonable pricing, dumb GTA V is still €60. WTF.
"Not recommended" reviews most helpful. Hahahah
@CatPlusPlus are you like a celebrity?
why write press emails for then?
16:56
The release?
aaaah
the game
gaem
Pay attention, you pleb!
sorry I didn't read above
I joined the room and ubisoft caught my eye so I proceeded to spew my usual hatestew
congrats @CatPlusPlus :D
Xeo
Xeo
1 year in early access
We want to do online MP and some actual single player stuff

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