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22:00
well, you're right
We all will die, but not in our lifetimes!
everybody dies someday, at least their physical body does
but not everything about you will die.
But hopefully your software will
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we use technology based on the mathematical and physical insights of long-dead men.
just because my body has a pre-determined lifespan doesn't mean that my contribution to the state of affairs on this planet has a similar lifespan.
A nice sentiment, but not too much more. The reality is pretty dark. But you know, hope and shit.
@ElimGarak What nice sentiment? It's blatantly obvious reality.
unless you think that humans reinvent all technology and civilization and rebuild every city every hundred years
@Puppy They're still dead.
But good for us, definitely.
they certainly are dead, but I'm still benefitting from their work.
Ahahah
their death hasn't limited the impact of their achievements.
22:03
Dude, did you delete all my -1 questions for like the past year or two?
Given astrophysics and particle physics, this particular universe's fate is finite & utter nothingness.
so I have no chance at redemption?
@TylerLangan Red Dead Redemption, great game.
22:04
@TylerLangan I personally deleted only the one.
@TylerLangan calm down ffs
@ElimGarak Well, we actually don't really know much about the fate of the universe.
@TylerLangan You had no chance of redemption the moment you were question banned.
there were 6 questions at the time you came into the room
YOU WILL DIE ALONE AND NOBODY WILL REMEMBER YOU
YOU'RE WELCOME
22:05
says the guy who deleted my q, ruining my shot at redemption
ok unordered
you're my bro
Cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it.
Ugh there was never any shot at redemption jesus christ these bans are permanent
@Puppy Given the current progression, dark energy creating a negative pressure, expanding the universe and the decay of all matter, the last thing that will perish is the black holes a long time from now, via Hawking radiation.
You had no fucking redemption to begin with
@@TylerLangan Redemption is for people who care too much about stuff.
22:05
oh really?
Question ban is never reverted
I'm thinking at this point delete my acct with SO
but I actually contributed a lot of useful content
You've been permabanned from snack overflow question posting good job good luck on your future shitposting endeavours
and I'd be sad for the loss
@ElimGarak The Universe has been through many phases and there's no reason to believe that dark energy driven expansion will be the last.
22:06
@Puppy That's the hope.
Question bans extend beyond accounts so that won't help either hth
would I have to use a VPN to ask qs on SO from now on?
The Universe should've started collapsing inwards 5 billions in, when dark energy kicked in. So maybe it has something "planned".
personally I believe that dark energy will, more or less, run out, and gravity will bring the universe back together again.
and once enough of the Universe is concentrated in one place, big bang.
@CatPlusPlus They do?
22:07
@nabijaczleweli then it evidently did more than just concatenate vars
but that's just a theory
Oh, yeah, big crunch is the darker one.
big bounce, I believe.
@TylerLangan why don't you Google whatever question you have, because likely someone has already asked it before.
My theory is you're not drunk enough
22:07
big crunch, indeed, AFAIR
I'd like a big bang
Big crunch states that it will not reset
I'm on the bleeding heart, I mean edge, of technology with that there javascript
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Yes
noooobody has asked this before
22:07
@CatPlusPlus How?
Also nobody cares
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Magic
besides
cat had to deal with rejection growing up and never learned to shrug it off, making him an aggressive person in general
@TylerLangan this is not the JavaScript room.
even if this universe has a finite lifespan, there's nothing to say about the multiverse
22:08
Big bounce suggests the energy of the collapse will cause another universe. There are also weird theories that the universe is a spacetime fractal via the mechanism of black holes.
AUDIBLE SIGH
That beyond the horizon different universe exist at different scales and physical constant ratios.
@CatPlusPlus it's pretty accurate :)
hahahahaha
22:09
Anyhoops. Q ban is not permanent
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it so is
It may seem so
You guys really are helpful, despite your attempts not to be
@ElimGarak There's always that thing about Dark Flow, don't know if it was ever verified.
thank you @sehe
22:09
@sehe P sure they confirmed they are at least once
I am equally fascinated and terrified by the universe. More terrified, actually.
I think terrification comes before the event
and horror comes after
> terrification
lol
Sometimes, at night, I walk outside the house to stop having a panic attack when I think about death. I have problems. Stars help me calm down.
22:10
@ElimGarak First step is to admit
@CatPlusPlus never read that - that should evoke some criticism if true. For one: misleading communication, second: irrevertible things rarely fair
Second step is to drink and forget
@sehe Not fair maybe, but incredibly funny
depends on humor style
I was going to mechanical turk some up-votes, but it requires 15 rep to give an upvote
@sehe s/crashes/throws
22:12
anyone have a bot net of accts with at least 15 rep?
@TylerLangan stop
@TylerLangan Now I am seriously starting to think you're a troll.
idk what a bot net is
@erick it is permanent by IP, it is lower level than account — Jeff Atwood ♦ Dec 14 '10 at 17:34
lol
@nabijaczleweli same difference
22:12
How much rep can you lose in one day?
@ElimGarak a lot
especially if you draw attention to your case and ask for compassion
then it's hilarious
@ElimGarak 46, today, for you
22:13
@ElimGarak at least 1500 (see bounties)
(three active bounties at the same time, 500 per bounty)
There's no cap on downvotes
that's not "losing" (like, you don't "lose" money in the grocery store)
so delete the ole account and I can ask q's
is preferable to signing up with a new email
@unordered_meow You can lose much more
no guarantees
22:14
or... choose a different field to work in
a corn field
Docker is annoying me
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ that's why "at least"
22:14
There's really no limit to it
jeff, if you read upside down like that it slows your normal reading speed bro
@CatPlusPlus we are not surprised
Potentially if all users that contributed to your upvotes are removed from the website you could lose all the reputation you have got.
also thanks for ruining my shot at redemption
You're welcome
22:15
@sehe after all the years we've been in the Lounge, nothing should really surprise us. Should it now?
Uhhh Sentry's Celery instance is using up a lot of CPU
That's not a good sign
@CatPlusPlus Reinvent it.
I almost want an alt email account just so I don't delete content for people >___< I spent a lot of itme answering q's
@ElimGarak Yeah that's a great idea
on alt SE sites
22:16
Actually, if it no longer annoys you, you're not reinventing it.
@ElimGarak Hey, I'm having those too these days. How long have you been experiencing those?
Also what's your age?
22. But I've been having those since I was 10.
You're all old.
22:16
Nice
I'm 23.
I've read this is the perfect period to have those.
Why are you deleting anything when you're 23 years old? Who gave you the red button?
It's like one of the two main crisis you can have during life.
I've been an early fucking boomer, thanks Universe.
22:17
One at the middle of your life and one at the beginning of adulthood.
The first time was terrifying when, but nowadays I just act like Cat Plus Plus during them.
Ell
Ell
How early?
Yes, first time was very terrifying.
After that it's mainly scare of it coming back again.
Mine were ever so intense because my knowledge of physics has always augmented my chilling dark thoughts. And a lot of physics seem to point to a dark reality.
I somehow can "imagine nothingness". Fuck, I hated that. Chills down your spine.
@ElimGarak How so?
22:19
@Nooble I'm not
I have no idea, but it feels terrifying.
I think the condition is called existential angst?
I meant the "dark" reality
And one of the workers is running out of memory
Not really a condition
great
Once again I managed to trigger ordering bug in snackchat
22:20
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Look at astrophysics ideas for the lifespan of the universe. It's basically all different flavors of The End.
And some of them also point to fucked up ideas reminiscent of the idea of time as a circle.
@ScottW Thanks Obama
At the age of 10, it used to terrify my mom. I knew way too much for my age and a child's imagination takes that to a very fucked up place.
@CatPlusPlus It's not hard
@sehe In a few years it might be "Thanks Trump" :P
Unresponsive container daemon
ughhh
22:21
@TonyTheLion Obama Trumps Thanks
@ElimGarak And that's bad?
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Those things are way too controlled, the universe is quantum chaos manifesting as macroscopic order. Statistically, nearly impossible for it to repeat. But, when you have infinite time, small probabilities are made very possible.
Yup
And there is also the consideration of time being a property of the universe. People think about "before the universe". There is no before. GR states that time started with the Big Bang. When you incorporate gravity into SR. Before the universe is an edge on an ideal sphere. No such thing.
But just as a human, would you like to repeat your existence forever and ever? Without ever remembering?
That would be fine
22:26
If you don't remember, it doesn't matter.
I guess this is a stupid question but
what if dark matter is just black normal matter?
I've had nice moments in my life
@Puppy That's racist.
oh I'm sorry
matter-ist
22:27
what if dark matter is just Asian normal matter?
And bad moments were just the prelude to very good moments
@Puppy It only interacts through gravity, not EM. If it were interacting electromagnetically, massive blackholes would spawn
and eat the universe.
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lol
@Puppy That's better.
Also, don't give the Universe ideas.
22:27
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ that sounds boring. And also very religious
It makes me happy v0v
I take whatever makes me happy over anything these days
Sentry doing 4000 ops/sec on Redis
Good grief
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ you'd take, e.g., your gf?
no
also night everyone
The cache has less than the fucking error aggregator
22:29
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ sleep well
Don't fall asleep now
that would be a waste of time
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ nn
@thecoshman I can remind you of this periodically
@sehe That doesn't help. She sleeps besides me and it just intensifies those thoughts, as I care for her too now.
I'm also off to bed
@sehe oh you
22:29
@ElimGarak note the addressee
@ElimGarak It already has enough totally batshit crazy ones?
I'd imagine it is universal, unless Jeffrey is a sociopath who only cares about himself. Are you a sociopath, Jeffrey?
yes.
yes.
Going once, going twice...
Sold.
Usually the best thing you can do is go outside if you can. It'll go away.
22:32
what, my enjoyment of my existence?
yes.
that certainly does tend to rapidly fall off a cliff once I go outside.
unless it's to get hamburgers
Genrally speaking, we only care about others because it has an impact on ourselves.
@Morwenn When it is mutual, does it matter?
22:34
@ElimGarak What?
Mutual benefit. Nobody is being left out.
Mutual benefit is only interesting because you benefit from it and you kow you'll benefit longer from it.
And the misery of life loves company.
I don't know about those.
Also, I need to stop watching serial killer documentaries. Seriously, why the fuck would you do that to people?
22:36
Because it's fun in its own paradigm?
@ElimGarak Because batshit insane
Morwenn is probably on an FBI watch list somewhere.
@ElimGarak wat
It's a fair guess
@Borgleader wat
22:37
@Borgleader Exchange before.
Eh, if it wasn't fun in its own paradigm, there wouldn't be games where you can kill anyone.
So this guy raped a woman. Killed a woman. Raped her again. Buried her. Had sex with the body again after exhuming. Then ate from the body. Separated the body into pieces and kept them in a plastic bag in the basement, which the police found.
@thecoshman I can remind you of this periodically
@ElimGarak Could be worse
Ted Bundy and Gary Ridgway did the same as well. Why would you have sex with a body? To relive the fantasy?
One derived sexual pleasure from thrusting a knife exclusively into the right breast of a woman, then posed the body.
22:42
@ElimGarak Why not? You're not in those people's heads. Everyone sees the world through different goggles.
> dubiszumkotzen
lol
@Morwenn Could we meet? In public? I'll have some friends in black cars, but don't mind them. They might join us later on.
(Just to be clear, I'm totally against killing and any form of torture, but I don't pretend that these people weren't "right" in their own paradigm)
There's a difference between thought experiments and actual acts.
22:43
Borg <3
Thats my kind of school
Let's be clear again: I want to impose "culture", "education", open-mindedness, tolerance, pacifism, etc... on everybody. But imposing is also against my values and doing to other people what you don't want to be done to you is totally against my values too. But thought experiments and trying to get how other people work is interesting by itself.
"Was hast du dir gewünscht?" "Darf ich nicht sagen, sonst geht's nicht in Erfüllung." "Warum fühlst du meinen Puls?" "Nur so."
@sehe Lol.
being a builder in north career doesn't look like fun earthnutshell.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/…
22:47
@AlexM. north career top kek
@thecoshman I can remind you of this periodically
there is one aspect of their architecture I'd like to see around here myself earthnutshell.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/… earthnutshell.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/…
note the symmetry
especially in the 2nd pic, around the tower in the background
@sehe Seriously, you're at it again xD
@sehe wtf lol
@sehe lol
22:50
When I think about death, I remember there are people who live in North Korea. And it gets easier. Also, people who use C at work. In North Korea.
> people who use C at work.
rip me
I think about death more than necessary. I don't think that's hard actually
I try as best I can not to think about it
@TonyTheLion Yeah, I'd think about sods using it at home
22:51
@ElimGarak Some North Korean got to see Laibach live. It's not that bad.
@sehe Death is not really the problem. The actual problem is what leads to it.
@unordered_meow oh my
@sehe even loler
sbi
sbi
@Mr.kbok There's a lot of stuff missing there. I have met @Tony, @Bartek, and @Puppy. There's also @melak, who has met at least me and the robot. Also, IIRC @Tony has met @Xeo and @jalf. And @AndyProwl isn't in there at all, either.
way to go with pinging all the chat users :D
@sbi I haven't met @Xeo or @jalf :(
22:53
@LucDanton I should consider following her anyways. I was wondering what made that happen when I saw this:
...mal eben schnell 500 neuen Leuten folgen...
I guess that explains
oh yea I met Andy
sbi
sbi
@TonyTheLion No? I thought you were at that first SO meetup in Berlin where we hung out at the Prater?
@unordered_meow He's using his monthly allowance before it expires
@sbi I was at a meetup, but IIRC neither jalf or xeo was there. It was with Konrad Rudolf and someone else
Is there a site where I can type in a word (like "candy") and it will give me the word in a bunch of other languages with the corresponding word in latin characters (like french: bonbon, spanish: dulces, etc)
sbi
sbi
22:55
@TonyTheLion Ah, right, that was the first one. But who else was there? Björn?
@sbi yea Björn.
oh I think Robot was there, no?
or was that the second time I came to Berlin?
sbi
sbi
Uh, I forgot. :-/
@sehe hatsune miku cosplay?
How would I know
> I should consider following her anyways
maybe you knew
sbi
sbi
22:58
What's with you quoting obscure German tweeters, @sehe?
5 mins ago, by sehe
@LucDanton I should consider following her anyways. I was wondering what made that happen when I saw this:
@thecoshman I can remind you of this periodically
Oh I left out the part where I was followed by this obscure account

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