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15:00
Google Fiber please come to NY.
I stopped caring about uploa...
wait, I never cared about upload
because I never seed lol
@AlexM. Your upload speed is so good though!
@AlexM. so you download porn and never seed them back?
@Nooble When was last time when you needed 300Mbps upload?
today
15:02
@MarcoA. is there a pun there
@Nooble upload*
@AlexM. no. Seed my download. NOW!
@AlexM. Uploading BF4 sounds painful.
@Nooble You downloaded BF4 with your uplink?
Ohhhhh
wish mum was here :\
15:03
@Griwes Sorry misunderstood you.
I want to try shrimps
The answer is never.
but I dunno if they're good
she likes anything seafood though and I'd not have to throw it away
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eww, pop().template data<bool>().
I'm going to New Hampshire on friday.
15:09
@AlexM. They are good
people say that about seaweed too
but it's the spawn of satan
I love seaweed.
I like fried calamari with cream & lemon tho
I dunno if shrimp is similar
I like shrimps more than calamari
If you like calamari, you should like shrimps. Calamari is weirder.
meh not sure I'll risk it, it's somewhat expensive because it's not just shrimps
there's also grilled salmon and some other stuff in the package
I'll just order one next time mum comes to visit
(I don't like grilled fish so half of the food would automatically be thrown away anyway)
15:17
I like raw food
I think my router is thermal throttling.
:(
lol wtf
delivery guys have two fields: phone and mobile phone
and both are required
I'll just use the same # in both fields lol
A question about segmentation in linux: It says in my book that linux uses the following segmentations: user/kernel code, user/kernel data and for some reason for all of them the beginning linear address is the same
How can they all have the same beginning linear address?
bean soup w/ ham hock, QF pasta and a prosciutto sandwich for later today
sounds good
You're making me hungry.
15:24
I forgot the pepsi but then I realized I forgot the dessert
Also you are looking for "uses the following segments" - "uses the following segmentation" makes no sense.
By putting the same beginning linear addresses in the GDT descriptors for all of them.
w/ the dessert the order reaches the value for a free pepsi
nice
Pepsi > Coke
Amirite guise.
wait
holy shit
15:25
I think they also added a way to pay with the card ONLINE
as in, not require it and do it at the door
I wanted this for like 2 years
I hope it's what I think it is
They didn't have that before :P?
Most online delivery thingies have that.
@Griwes Yes, typo. But how can different segments share the same linear addresses?
ah nvm
I still have to pay on delivery w card
1 min ago, by Griwes
By putting the same beginning linear addresses in the GDT descriptors for all of them.
@AlexM. Well, there goes your eternal bliss.
15:27
so lame
Yeah my router is definitely thermal throttling.
I do one test and reach 315/25 mbps.
And then the second test it becomes 30/20 mbps.
well at least I can choose card payment on the site
before I'd have to wait for them to call me to confirm the order
and then not forget to ask for card payment
> A dozen, a gross, and a score
Plus three times the square root of four
Divided by seven
Plus five times eleven
Is nine squared and not a bit more.
@Griwes I mean, how does it then map segment addresses to correct linear ones? How does it differentiate if all those segments start at the same address?
It's a limerick, how nice.
15:32
@khajvah Do you have any idea how x86 segmentation works?
Segments are determined by the used segment register (CS for code, DS, ES for data, FS, GS for thread-local storage).
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lol segments
Then the CPU does a lookup into GDT based on the offsets from these registers.
So... your question makes little sense, @khajvah.
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page master race
@райтфолд FS and GS are pretty nice. :P
Especially with the magical "SWAPGS" instruction they added at some point.
ok I am confused
Let me read once more about it.
@Griwes Thank you
@sehe I'm seriously ready to say fuck it with spirit, I can't seem to get it to not skip spaces which are just a wee bit important. I realize I'm probably doing something dumb. But ACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
@AlexM. You have a GTX760 right?
My friend gave me one after he got a 780 for $200.
For free, so now I'm testing it out.
15:38
@Mgetz <your stream>.unsetf(std::ios::skipws);? :DDD
I'm considering getting a 970 or sth sometime in the summer, if I end up upgrading my case and mobo too
@Griwes interator api
970 will be absolutely solid for 1080P.
or maybe I'll go for a week at the sea
because it's the same fucking cost WTF
@Mgetz Pass streambuf_iterators instead of istream_iterators?
15:39
@AlexM. At the sea?
A fancy cruise would be nice.
@Griwes what part of iterator api was hard? I'm not using streams in any way shape or form
@Nooble beach*
my bad
@Mgetz Alright.
no ships involved
It costs $300 to go to the beach?
15:41
the full upgrade is 600 eur for me
(mobo + case + gpu)
Ahh.
It costs 600 to go to the beach?!
somewhat more than 4-5 nights at a small 4* hotel
Or do you not have any beaches nearby?
Oh.
I dont :(
@AlexM. What case are you thinking of getting?
15:42
something sexy
like the NZXT Phantom
(white)
Oooh that looks nice.
There's also the H440.
that doesn't say "lol gamer" as much as the edges on the phantom
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test/../src/interpret.tpp:48:32: error: indirection requires pointer operand ('int boost::detail::none_helper::*' invalid)
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Ugh, fucking Boost.
man razer lets you set a different sensitivity for the two axes
this must be for the 4:3 stretched folks
15:45
Who uses 4:3.
Speaking of aspect ratio, I want a 21:9 monitor.
some players prefer it because it makes models slightly "fatter"
and easier to see
at the same time it skews sensitivity on one of the axes
hence why razer's tweaking is great
Fuck the government
@Nooble there are all kind of weird stuffs CS players use to gain an advantage
corrupt cocksuckers
4:3 didn't work for me so I just went back to 1080p
15:48
@AlexM. m(
Did 4:3 really give a noticeable advantage?
Actually, if you wanted 4:3, couldn't you just resize the window?
it's noticeable, but imo too minor in my case
4:3 stretched
4:3 black bars is chosen by people who don't like how far away the minimap is from the center and so on
another thing people prefer is to turn digital vibrance (nvidia panel) to its maximum, because the color palette in some GO maps is really bad and people are hard to spot
this one I tested and it works, but it's hard on the eyes
one problem i was attributing to not enough memory might be because of undefined behavior
yay
let's hope this was indeed the cause
okay, I don't exactly see how somehow hiding the center of the screen makes your aim better, but whatever floats your boat
@AlexM. That's a very slight difference.
15:51
it's pretty huge
@Blob you prefer UB over out of memory?
@melak47 I can fix UB cheaply. I can't fix lack-of-memory cheaply.
how much memory are we talking about :p
@Nooble when the enemy is far away and you only see a tiny bit of him, not having the guy blend in with the colors around is a good thing
Oh crap.
I thought you were showcasing the 4:3 thing.
15:53
nope
Yes the colors are pretty wonky.
@melak47 i have 6 gigs and usually have <5 MB free at any time
I can see how you can gain an advantage with that.
I'd do the color thing on an important match but not on a daily basis
last time I did my eyes hurt lol
or at least that's what Task Manager would have me believe
15:54
@Blob :/
even in a full lit room
@Blob Are you using it all or your OS is caching?
Yeppp
it was UB
the image appears a shitton of times brighter, or at least it feels like that
@khajvah 1850 being cached
15:55
@Blob Task Manager is a bit inaccurate.
hm.. when i'm not building or playing it's not that bad. ~500 free
@AlexM. there's an app button for that
@AlexM. So when do these "advantages" turn into cheating?
Where's the line drawn?
it's not cheating since it's just a bunch of monitor settings
on some maps it's useless for example
because they have proper colors
is it cheating if my computer "randomly" changes some memory and sends a few "random" packets?
15:57
a wallhack would be useless on a map where you're trapped in a box, too. doesn't make it any less of a cheat :p
@Nooble e.g. on this map it would be useless to increase color intensity cs.ingame.de/files/2014/10/de_season-04.jpg
dark colors are easy to spot on bright colors, and players have dark colors
and goodness imagine all that white blowing in your eyes :P
I hate it when the monitor is too bright.
did they invent HDR monitors while I was napping?
And it's glaring all over my glasses.
@melak47 I wish.
My GTX 760 testing is complete.
finally figured it out
bleh
16:02
nooble, do you happen to have a spare computer lying around?
@Blob One with 768MB of RAM yes.
@Nooble how did it go?
@Nooble eh. it's a slight downgrade.
@AlexM. On Battlefield 4 Ultra settings, it never dipped below 75FPS and never went above 70 degrees Celsius.
it's a good card, unfortunately Valve breaks the optimization of CS GO with each new update, so I get really low framerates on DM servers with 24+ players :(
16:04
Truly the card for 1080P.
and I'm not even maxing it out
it's 1080p with a combo of low-med + high textures and models
and no AA or w/e
@Blob How much RAM do you have?
@Griwes osdev.org is gold. Thanks for the link man
@Nooble 6 gigs
i need 8 to not crash every few mins
Get another stick then.
16:04
and maybe a nice graphics card so this shitty game runs at more than 8 fps
maybe it will work better once they move the game to source 2
i have a laptop
@AlexM. Wouldn't that be more of a CPU thing
@Blob I had 6 gigs in my laptop, now I have 12 :P
maybe the engine is showing its age
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16:05
Alright, I need some Unicode stuff.
...while ASUS claims my laptop only takes 8. lol
@Blob You can upgrade the RAM on most laptops.
@AlexM. source 2 coming out c:
@Nooble hell, I have an i5 2400
what else does it want?
i7 extreme?
Lol.
16:06
anyway, I dunno much about engines
but I expect source 2 to be an improvement
I have my 7 year old box with an unknown number of fried components :p
might just be the PSU, might be all of it :p
what kind of nice things does the fact that source 2 can do 64 bit shit and source 1 can't imply
I hope it's something that will fix the framerate
they figured out the 64 bit compiler flag?
probably
woop woop!
16:09
or so I heard
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Beh, Ogonek fails to build.
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Wrong Wheels version.
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Let's download the latest version.
@AlexM. This reminds me of AC: Unity. It's minimum requirements were an i5-2500K and a GTX780 or R9290X.
and they were right
16:14
Sadly yes.
two GTX Titan Blacks in SLI could not run it at a constant 60 fps
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Ugh, still fails. ICU it is.
just get robot to help you build Ogonek
with ICU you'll be stuck with a shitface interface for way longer than it would take you to fix ogonek
@AlexM. what a waste..
how about you rich fucks donate a decent computer so i can make a damn game without crashing and crying every fucking minute
16:20
@AlexM. That Valve might, just might, not be terrible, terrible, terrible programmers?
please. thanks.
So this code turns out to be the #1 I-cache killer. (At least according to cachegrind.)
I don't really understand why.
Maybe the lambda causes too much expansion.
well
the thing about unrolled loops is that unrolling directly means that you're writing out more instructions that are gonna take up more space in the cache.
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Alright, interpreter almost works.
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Only have to implement subroutine calls.
16:22
but it can also be a detail of the calling conditions rather than the actual method itself, like for example, the method is never in icache when it gets called
I think the way apple forces new stuff over time is nice
e.g. now it's impossible to get accepted on the app store without 64 bit builds
might want to consider letting the compiler unroll the loop instead of doing it yourself
@Puppy The generated asm on Coliru doesn't seem excessive.
At least not something that would trigger the 16K icache.
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It's funny how in Python strings are sequences of strings.
But what do I know lol.
I can't understand the instructions.
16:24
@StackedCrooked Well, there can be more issues like associativity rather than just raw size.
Hm, in the original code there are 4 overloads at the bottom of the cpp file that call the original routine. Maybe that all gets inlined.
@StackedCrooked How does the trivial code that does not try to do 4 at once perform against your code?
if I have a few classes that all kind of need to share one constant... what's best way to do this?
I could do it as a static on one of these classes I guess
@thecoshman Use a constant in a namespace?
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@thecoshman Put the constant in a namespace.
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16:27
inb4 Java
I guess...
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Some Java libraries make them statics in an interface and to use them you can from the interface, lol.
nah, C++
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What are you making in C++?
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Alright, time to implement subroutines.
16:28
@wilx I should check.
anyone could help me with this? stackoverflow.com/questions/29447685/…
I got the idea from an intel book actually.
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I need ArrayRef like LLVM has.
@StackedCrooked Premature optimization, ts ts ts. :D
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But LLVM is a terrible dependency.
16:29
where the hell is my food
i'm hungry
@райтфолд my 'technically a game' / crappy mc clone :P
Well, what's really weird is that disabling the checksum has only small effect on the application performance. (Around 10%.)
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Eww, llvm::ArrayRef<T> has an implicit conversion to std::vector<T>.
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Let's implement this shit manually.
Meanwhile, the Valgrind report would let me believe it is the killer of everything.
16:31
@AlexM. All the more reason to get 4 GPU's!
@StackedCrooked Looking at the for(;;) loop... I would try to avoid it being infinite loop with the breaks inside. I would try to change it to 3 loops: N down to 33, 32 down to 9, the rest.
@wilx ah that makes sense
it causes big jumps.
god I love people who leave comments like this
> Nice! (sorry for my bad english)
16:43
I hate having to add all that typedef cruft.
@райтфолд Did you steal that code? It looks very similar to something I wrote a year ago.
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@StackedCrooked No.
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I just wrote it.
I see. You're getting good.
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Ideally I'd have any_iterator.
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Does Boost have it as a public API now?
16:45
const_reverse_iterator is where I draw the line. Then I start removing things again.
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It does have any_range.
I think there may be some crtp util in boost or C++11 that generates the using declarations for you. Similar to how they cleaned up allocator's interface.
@райтфолд TIL about any_range.
It looks like just any range.
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Adobe has any_iterator but it has lots of dependencies.
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16:50
> (sparent)
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OMG SEAN PARENT
my current "death" is a sort of a hack where player just turns invisible
i have no idea how i'll approach multiplayer :|
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I wonder how difficult it is to implement any_iterator.
It could just hold a pointer to the underlying container. Then it would only probably only require a void* pointer and function pointer void(*)(void*)
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No, it can't.
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16:56
It doesn't know about containers.
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It's like boost::any but with an iterator interface.
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You construct with an iterator.
I wonder why they don't use small-buffer to eliminate the heap allocation.
these guys gave me a free mirinda not a free pepsi
what the FUCK

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