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9:00 PM
I doubt so!
 
I sure won't develop drivers for a new Linux based mobile OS
:D
I'm sure those used in Android are open source tho
 
Still it would be so awesome
 
Is using FizzBuzz to weed out noob programmers still a good idea?
I need a small simple program to weed out noob programmers.
 
get each programmer to ask a question on SO
and judge by how they formulate it
 
@Hassan the 'NDK' is just a bunch of toolchains; pretty straightforward to build a lib and add it to an APK. There's no special process. Resources on the other hand are pretty stupid
 
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9:02 PM
this just happened in a news channel studio: dumpert.nl/mediabase/6637249/c4b3e307/…
 
@Rapptz how about in place string reversal
 
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Well resources are handled automatically if you're using their IDE (Eclipse/Android Studio)
 
@Hassan pretty sure I do that every day at work
 
@Rapptz Ask them to code some heaps by hand
 
@Rerito Have you looked at Ubuntu Phone? I haven't tried it, so I can't exactly recommend it, but it seems to be at least a little closer to what you want.
 
9:03 PM
by, you know, building my library together with that stuff
 
It's easy, short and it would filter quite well the noob ones
 
it makes sense to not be able to link two things compiled differently
 
@Rerito Do you mean heap as in "memory manager" or as in "heap sort"?
 
Heap sort
 
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If you sort it, it's not a heap anymore! It'll be a tidy place instead!
 
9:05 PM
@рытфолд Not true. Fully sorted (in descending order) still fits the heap invariants.
 
@рытфолд A sorted array still enforces the heap condition so... Technically it can still be viewed as a heap :p
 
@Rerito The code's short, but it's probably more time than quite a few people are willing to dedicate to an initial filter.
 
@JerryCoffin It's quite straightfoward I believe
 
Hm.
I don't think it's a good idea to use heap sort.
Or any sorting algorithm really.
 
Not heap sort
The heap structure itself
 
9:08 PM
Even worse I think.
 
how about tree traversal, DFS and BFS
 
Too much people able to spit it by heart?
 
It's not that.
 
DFS is trivial, BFS requires a bit of thinking if you dont know it imemdiately
 
Google Alycia Debnam-Carey. You're welcome.
 
9:09 PM
@Rerito A while back I decided to do it without any books or anything. Maybe I'm just slow, but it took me around 1.5-2 hours, if memory serves.
 
Data structures is a bad way to filter too.
Any decent programming language has support for them.
 
also DFS tests recursion, BFS tests iteration
 
@JerryCoffin The hard part to me was to prove the complexity of the heapify function
@Rapptz Of course but still, programmers need to know some about them
Be it the principles behind them, their complexity, the use cases...
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit 1/10, Katherine Knight is better
 
@JerryCoffin (For this part, I cheated: wolfram alpha, yes it's lame :D)
@Rapptz In the end, I guess it depends on what criterion you want to test the "noobs"
 
9:14 PM
@Rapptz One big question is what you're trying to screen for. If you're interested in, say, attention to detail, you pick something that initially seems trivial, but has lots of boundary conditions. If you want to test for knowledge of the language, the test would be entirely different (and so on).
 
just filter them by how clean their code is
 
@AlexM. shut up
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit just a friendly reminder of how your next woman could be if you're not careful
you'll thank me sooner...
 
... OR LATER
 
9:15 PM
I guess I'll think of something.
 
don't sweat it too much
 
I don't think there's any harm of it being slightly more complicated.
 
look at it like this: you can't sweat it enough anyway
people react differently in interviews than how they'd react at their daily job
 
It's not even a job
 
what
 
9:16 PM
It's just a volunteer position for my tournament organising group.
 
I dunno let people bribe you then
whoever gives you the most money gets in
profit
 
@AlexM. Oh fuck off! (oh wait. I'm being interviewed? Well, thank you for that delightful insight).
 
^ best solution
 
I think a decently complex thing would weed out the liars and the people incapable of doing the task they're volunteering for.
 
@JerryCoffin it depends on the people :P
you may throw away a perfect guy for the job because he was overwhelmed by the interview stress
 
9:17 PM
@Rapptz Start with fizzbuzz. 10 minutes gets rid of 95% of the complete posers.
 
stress caused by the idea that you may not be accepted for the job is different from stress caused by deadlines, for example
 
1 message moved to bin
 
it's also a fear of the unknown, and when there are others interviewing at the same time as you it adds up
you can't not think about how many of them are better than you
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit: C'mon. You've been around long enough to know better than to post animated GIFs here (and that fact that the image itself isn't particularly obnoxious doesn't change that).
 
Didn't even notice it was a gif.
 
9:20 PM
I noticed that it was not sparkly bjarne
 
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I love SpongeBob SquarePants.
 
@Rapptz It wasn't a very intrusive gif. I would've let it stay.
 
I Need sparkly Bjarne! :(
 
no you don't
remember, the best things are rare
unless you're talking about steak
medium is fine in that case
and besides
 
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Bjarkly Sparne.
 
9:22 PM
a well done bjarne is best
 
Hmmm I got a caft liver craving
 
@Mysticial At least originally, it wasn't a question of intrusiveness. It was about the fact that some browsers apparently peg the CPU when there's an animated GIF showing.
 
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I am part of a conspiracy that believes that Bjarne is a myth.
 
@JerryCoffin oh
What about that static image that looked like a gif? :)
I can't find it though.
 
Sep 26 '14 at 16:57, by Alex M.
> But out of all these languages, the only one that really interest me and get's the job done - is object pascal. Bjarne is just jealous he didnt make that first :)
 
9:24 PM
@рытфолд So my memory of meeting him resulted from hallucinogens?
 
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I want Sparkly Gosling.
 
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:21247814 Are those Java beans?
 
mysticial senpaaai
where did I go wrong with my question
 
no idea
 
9:25 PM
@Mysticial Doesn't work for me anymore.
 
we are not loved anymore :(
 
@Mysticial That's JPEG--no CPU burning, because animation is supplied by the brain.
 
That image doesn't trick me anymore!
 
steampunk.jpg
 
9:26 PM
@рытфолд Just for you
 
Oh wait, that doesn't work when zoomed out.
 
Doesn't work zoomed in either if I stare at it.
But if I glance at it, it sorta does.
 
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lol Ryan Gosling
 
Are my eyes becoming retarded
 
quick whats bjarne thinking
 
9:27 PM
He's undergoing Edo Tensei.
 
is that some anime thing
 
He's "GoingNaive". :D
 
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you anime people and your anime things
 
@Rapptz They were retarded. Now they're re-retarded.
 
9:27 PM
Naruto had such great music
 
Shippuuden had terrible music
 
lol
 
The original was way better.
In terms of music.
 
I don't think so, pieces like Kouen and Ikari
and the one above
are just amazing
 
Original's OST was chock full of hype.
Making battles entertaining.
Shippuden's OST is pretty bad in comparison.
 
9:29 PM
this was the best song in the original series
and it wasn't even released
it played in the most intense moments IIRC
like in the tournament forest, when Orochimaru started showing up and fought Sasuke (?)
 
Go back and watch the average Naruto episode
 
Good night every one! I'm gone :)
 
hope I don't misremember
 
and pay attention to the music used
I did that like 2 weeks ago
and it still blows Shippuden out of the water.
 
@рытфолд photoshop bjarne staring at those butts
 
9:30 PM
I know, the music in the original is great but I think Ship did it better
I like how it sounds more
 
iunno
 
this one was great too youtube.com/watch?v=-vh0iv7yXb8
I can't remember scenes where it was used
but I'm sure it had stuff to do with Gaara
I think the original had more balanced music
 
@Rerito G'night.
 
now that you mentioned it
it was also a bit more coherent
 
it had a lot of good fight music
like the music would hype up the battles a lot
which is why I really liked it
 
9:32 PM
bleach didn't have that much in the way of awesome music :(
at least it had the best fight choreography
 
lol Bleach is terrible at everything
though I like Number One
when it still played >_>
 
I re-watched Ichigo vs Byakuya recently
so cool
 
didn't like Bleach much
 
almost as cool as Kenpachi vs * fights
 
worst Shonen I've seen in like, the past 16 years maybe
but that's just my opinion
 
9:34 PM
I may be weird
I tried to watch One Piece and failed
it didn't look cool enough :(
 
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@Pris there you go!
 
I don't like One Piece either.
 
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perfect
 
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It's pretty bad TBH.
 
9:35 PM
huh
 
just killed Drizzt in melee
 
this is what I mean by Number One btw
best song in the show
 
@Rapptz cmon this one was cool too youtube.com/watch?v=ze5W8cDHcsQ
and all the spanish themes
 
@AlexM. it was okay.
@AlexM. didn't like many of them
 
9:36 PM
I listen to "Never Meant to Belong" when I'm sad
it makes me sadder
 
Original Naruto had some sad music too
 
I'm so dumb I nearly killed myself
 
yup
 
but then again
considering everyone's backstory had to be SO DEPRESSING they had to make a lot of sad songs
 
@Rapptz this one makes me sadder when I'm sad too youtube.com/watch?v=wEWF2xh5E8s
 
9:37 PM
I fell of the train platform
 
@AlexM. lol yeah that song is sad
 
This is what robot could've done except dumber
 
I wish Kishimoto came up with a more meaningful ending
all that sad past was dumped
 
I was going to make a joke, but then I was like, well, you could have actually been in serious danger
 
If there was a train coming I'd be as good as deceased
 
9:39 PM
@BartekBanachewicz This sounds more clumsy than stupid.
 
@AlexM. Lol I just remembered how much I listened to this eons ago.
 
@Jerry I wish it was that
 
This song is like 12 years old by now I think.
 
I mean yes I was clumsy but...
Uh I really didn't drink that much
 
@BartekBanachewicz ...but not just clumsy?
 
9:40 PM
TYL: Being drunk is for noobs
 
I was wondering whether the lines that give your feet tactile feedback actually work
 
That video is Sadness and Sorrow + other songs.
Not really the full version.
 
As in there are those dots on the ground
 
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Tacit programming is fun.
 
And there is a line w/o dots
So I tried to walk with my eyes closed
 
9:41 PM
....
 
And obviously my feet kinda missed that spot
And uh
Yeah, that's it.
 
@Rapptz compilation for extra sadness
 
i cant stop procrastinating
 
@BartekBanachewicz So you basically walked off the edge of the platform with your eyes closed?
 
@Jerry I um. Yes.
 
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9:43 PM
@Pris lol
 
That was for science though. Kinda.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Okay, in that case I guess "stupid" probably does fit pretty well.
 
BB Any future scars?
 
the crazy influx of oldschool RPGs continues
 
I won't even argue this time
 
9:44 PM
Pillars of Eternity
the new Torment
a new The Bard's Tale
a new Baldur's Gate
holy crap
 
I don't know if they'll be able to recapture what made Baldur's Gate great, though
but I sure hope they move to 3.5e/pathfinder or something more modern than AD&D
 
I'm not sure what to expect
 
@BartekBanachewicz Sober up and be happy you're still healthy.
 
it's made by the guys who created the EE of the old BGs
 
@Cap nah I'm fine, my ankle twisted a bit (hell it was over a meter drop) and my leg prolly has a purple color where I hit the edge
 
9:45 PM
so...
I dunno
not exactly a studio dedicated to proper RPG making like, say, Obsidian
or inXile
 
@Jerry that's what's I'm going to do alright. Heading home and no streets to cross so I should be fine
 
user1804599
I want a Vim plugin that replaces LaTeX things with Unicode symbols.
 
user1804599
E.g. \pi becomes π.
 
@Mysticial it was a duplicate in the end
meh, deleted it
 
See you all tomorrow
 
9:48 PM
next time
 
UK peeps: Weekly Wipe starts in 12 minutes on BBC2
 
@рытфолд : Integral x 0 -> 2 pi becomes?
 
when you go wrong
 
@BartekBanachewicz Probably won't be so easy to be happy when you wake up--I predict some future pain. Might want to mitigate by taking some Tylenol (or whatever) even before going to sleep?
 
you quickly pack and go home
to minimize the exposure you get
and then try again
that's my #1 rule
I have many #1 rules but this is one of the most #1
 
9:50 PM
@AlexM. I'm honestly not sure they did a good job. I mean, sure, the game mostly works on a modern OS, but I'm not sure they really added a great deal.
 
I haven't tried the EEs
I couldn't play BG without the grainy graphics of the original :(
 
well, it's Baldur's Gate, with a few extra small goodies.
I never played TotSC before EE because the damn thing didn't work on my machines
 
> Heroes 3 was one of my favorite games ever, and I still fire up my copy of Heroes 3 Complete on my PC.

This is not the complete version. It is missing a faction, as well as scenerios. That is because it is missing both the DLCs. Features are missing due to this.

Most importantly, it does not allow you to create a random map. You can only play the scenerios.
ouch
I used to use the random map option
(this is about the remake by Ubisoft)
not sure I want to buy this now
I mean no Conflux
it was my favorite town
and from what I've heard they don't intend to add these new features, as said by their strea...
wait
I think this is one of the "guys, we're sorry, here let us show you we're good guys, here are the features you wanted and sorry we said we wouldn't add them!" things
to get their rep back
 
@AlexM. Haven't ever played HoMM, but this sounds terrible.
Boycott Ubisoft forever
 
Woo I made a salad
 
9:56 PM
> - [Bug] You have to click for every single moving point of your heroes. Having (e.g.) 100 moving points available will result in 100 clicks you have to make.
- [Bug] Beside that, the map will reposition itself after every single step, so you have to "re-aim" 100 times as well - ON EVERY HERO, ON EVERY SINGLE DAY.
wtf
 
@milleniumbug And that would be different to what goes on now how?
oh hey LLVM 3.5.1
 
the problem with H3 HD is not that it's not worth the money
even if they sold it for... 1 eur
I'd still choose the version with more content on GoG
 

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