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so ET lan party tomorrow
also my design from today apparently is just reinvented FRP
@AlexM. But mostly funny at least, I like the series.
ET lan party best LAN party en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
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Uno is fun.
Apparently Intel is spending $300m on increasing diversity in its work force
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@AlexM. Frogger ftw.
Dammit no salt
@R.MartinhoFernandes I have a feeling you'd enjoy this ^
Don't worry, Jackson's directors cut will be 20 hours long
I don't understand why XMLSchema's namespaces need to be urls.
@Jefffrey That's what an XML namespace is.
Or, said differently, that's what the spec says.
20:18
@AlexM. Wasn't E.T. one of the worst selling titles in the history of video games?
@EtiennedeMartel But it's never used to retrieve informations.
That is: "it must be a URI, but it shall not be used as a URI"
That makes no sense to me.
@Jefffrey An URI is there to identify a resource.
It has nothing to do with retrieval.
An URI is an ID. Nothing more.
Right.
You're thinking of it in terms of retrieval because an URI looks like an URL and you use an URL in your browser to get stuff.
@EtiennedeMartel But a URI has a very specific syntax. I don't see why I wouldn't be able to use something "mynamespace" instead of inventing an URI to add "mynamespace" at the end.
20:21
@Jefffrey Just buy a domain name and use that you cheapskate.
he he
I'll use the course's uni URL
That's not the problem. I'm just saying that it makes little sense to me.
Doesn't Java do a simiilar thing? Sun recommended reverse URLs or something, like com.google.whatever
> var f = console.log
    undefined
> f(1)
   TypeError: Illegal invocation
screw you, JS
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@Jefffrey I've talked to one the people to originally advocated for that and helped get it into the standard. He now (or at least when I talked with him) considers it a "well intended mistake". They used URL/URI syntax because it makes uniqueness relatively easy to assure, but said it's probably prompted as many questions and problems with the standard as all other issues combined.
20:28
@рытфолд random
@JerryCoffin I see.
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Oops.
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@FredOverflow 0.82889349232
@рытфолд I would love to see that number on a die.
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No.
20:30
@рытфолд That's random(). random is 0x78561935.
@FredOverflow Singular of "dice" is "die" (but rarely used, thanks to the old saying: "Never say die").
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@FredOverflow yes
it was definitely one of the worst games
> Once I woke up, had a quick coffee, okay, and then BANG! I thought, why the hell we still don't have signals and slots as part of native C++?
@Mysticial You might like.
lol wtf is that
Someone around willing to help me to improve one of my worst voted questions?
It has several problems, because the updates/edits came on from an over time edited, commented (and accepted) answer.
I think the DV's mostly were given as being a vulnerable point of revenge downvotes (some douches do such consciously), since I can't delete it.
I don't care much about lost rep, but I think it's still a valuable question (and answer in particular), and I actually have the results in production.
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Q: Creating an array initializer from a tuple or variadic template parameters

πάντα ῥεῖI want to have the description of a persistent memory layout (e.g. Flash or EEPROM device) statically embedded in the program code (preferably in the ROM section). I have created a simple data item descriptor class that binds a particular ID (should be provided as an enum type by the client), to...

@JerryCoffin Something wroong with a guid?
20:34
@Borgleader indeed waking up tends to improve awareness of C++'s limitations
@πάνταῥεῖ Can't you just retract your question and get your rep back?
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Q: Why do I get "conflicting declaration" error using two and more typedef-based static asserts with gcc and template function?

sharptoothI have the following code (no, the template is not instantiated anywhere): #define cAssert( expr ) typedef char __C_ASSERT__[( expr )?1:-1] template<int t> void f() { cAssert( t != 0 ); cAssert( t != 2 ); } which compiles just fine with Visual C++ (when t is neither 0 nor 2 of course)...

@FredOverflow Nope, I can't delete it. But even if so, I don't want to, as mentioned I still think it's valuable.
Interesting question.
@Puppy Yes. Hard to read, more difficult to assure they're truly unique, and the URI gives at least some reasonable likelihood of using a name that gives at least some indication of the source/intent/etc.
20:37
@FredOverflow It's not about the rep, Pfff
@Mysticial idk, OP seems to think slots & signals is a holy grail and can't fathom why the committe hasn't added it to the standard.
I don't even know what the fuck are slots & signals.
lol
@Columbo Been there, yes.
@πάνταῥεῖ Good for you. (I didn't post it solely for you)
@Mysticial I saw them as Qt's version of C# events. I could be wrong.
20:39
oh
It's just interesting as I think it might show up how outdated GCC really is.
@Columbo Just confirmed your opinion (mine was the same) :)
@πάνταῥεῖ :-)
I'm now using the Jerry smiley, and it works like a charm. Thanks @JerryCoffin!
@Columbo Pretty sure I didn't invent that. But sure--you're welcome anyway.
where's @Jefffrey
20:42
here
@JerryCoffin Well, I associated it with you, for some unapparent reason
@Jefffrey I told joozek about my idea for Hate and he said I've reinvented FRP
I've been bouncing my ideas off him because I thought you weren't here
wait
20:43
he's my flatmate
@Columbo It is how I usually do the smiley emoticon. And it's ancient, just like me.
so you had sex with someone else other than me because I wasn't here?
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wtf man
@Jefffrey Starred because wtf
he's potato coauthor remember :P
@Jefffrey hehe
yeah, I'm just kidding
I'm working with XML right now and I'm a little bit in a "WTF" state of mind
20:44
anyhow yeah I think my approach presents an interesting way
@Columbo <<<<< Ha! He's the random starrer. :-)
@πάνταῥεῖ Not always.
Do the room moderators not have a log or sth.
@Columbo No. Well, there are no "room moderators", but room owners don't have such a thing. We can remove the stars from something, but AFAIK have no way of detecting where a star came from.
I just realized I should get a gold badge in a minute - Electorage lol
@JerryCoffin I meant those, yeah
20:46
Well you can at least get a full transcript, to see what has been starred recently (and at least check and confirm it wasn't you inadvertently)
@JerryCoffin So that means I can basically fuck with the starboard and no one will be able to trace me back
@Columbo I wouldn't say "nobody". Room owners can't (directly), but I'm pretty sure mods and/or community managers (SE employees) can. As room owners, we have the slightly blunter instrument of just booting random people until we get the effect we want.
A classic :D
@JerryCoffin Yeah, but c'mon - why would anyone bother? "Hi, this is Jerry Coffin from SO, room owner of the Lounge. We have reports of an unauthorized starring anomaly in our chat room, can be talk to the paranormal starring command team?"
@Columbo What's "starring anomaly" all after? Black holes?
20:55
@JerryCoffin You can try binary search. Boot half the users and see if the starring continues. And then subset search from that. At least until the asshole realizes what you're doing. :)
@Mysticial "boot"? Is that a common alternative term for "kick"?
@Mysticial The first iterations may appear to be "hardcoooooooore"
@Columbo Pretty similar anyway. "I'm going to boot my computer, and if it still doesn't work I'm going to kick it."
At least what does it mean "interesting for transcript". It likely/certainly will be kept, to be e.g. flagged at the next day, or what?
lol
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Q: What is #define y0 sdkfaslhagaklsldk?

VenkateshI have seen some codes with the following macro definitions, #define y0 sdkfaslhagaklsldk #define y1 aasdfasdfasdf #define yn askfhwqriuperikldjk #define j1 assdgsdgasghsf #define tm sdfjahlfasfh #define lr asgasgash #define right adsgasgadsg #define free adsgasdg Are they really useful? if s...

21:01
Random funny video, funny for me at least: youtube.com/watch?v=yPVSVXde9SY
Where is my Electorage Badge!?
I'm waiting for it since like 15 mins
Or does one hav to wait until the vote reversal script has finished?
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Q: C++ Ways to make program execution continue until an exit command is given by user?

JakeFYI: I'm running ubuntu linux and g++ 4.8.2 (answers involving anything microsoft'ish aren't gonna help - I only know linux). Problem : My limited understanding of proper terminology is probably gonna make it hard to communicate my question clearly - I'll do my best using common, every day wo...

:21048649 My total vote cast is > 600
@πάνταῥεῖ Badly in need of a tl;dr section.
Oh wait, nvm
I still need like 5 or so, too bad I only got left three today lol
21:03
@Columbo You mean at this prominence page?
@JerryCoffin THX, that's a helpful hint.
@JerryCoffin Ah, wait. Did you mean my previous posted question or that recent question link I've posted?
@JerryCoffin Might well apply for both ;-)
@πάνταῥεῖ I was referring to the one you just linked. But it probably wouldn't hurt for your post either.
> Wait a sec and we'll have gut multi-threading there out-of-the-box in C++17. Just awesome.
tsk tsk
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Only the C++ standards committee can answer this question. Perhaps you should ask them. — Robert Harvey ♦ 35 mins ago
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That's complete and utter bullshit.
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Everyone who asked them and received an answer and didn't forget it can answer this question.
21:08
Is this possible? Yes. — Borgleader 1 min ago
@рытфолд ...if such a person exists.
@Borgleader Put as an answer, I'll upvote
@Borgleader No lies
@πάνταῥεῖ So is not a troll factory :)
My cooking equipment sucks
@JerryCoffin and this was only one particularly easy to define category
21:09
Two frying pans and they're both bent and terrible
1. Because of nested-name-specifiers, non-deduced contexts and all that 2. yes 3. no — Columbo 49 secs ago
@CatPlusPlus You can sell that for good money
@Columbo Too lazy to find the dupe ;)
@sehe Same over here :)
@sehe @рытфолд Did the same well just with a No ;-)
It's actually 2 doops
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21:11
@πάνταῥεῖ It got a downvote. :(
> Modern feminists are always trying to find unintentional misogyny, kind of devalues my very intentional misogyny.
@рытфолд Wasn't mine, be assured
@рытфолд where?
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@Intermernet No. — рытфолд 8 secs ago
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@sehe ^ there
21:13
> The OP is obviously some form of teacher. I always think it's worth taking the time to properly educate the educators
what a pompous BS
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Pompeii.
@πάνταῥεῖ Poops
Upvotes on an answer aren't sign of essential quality, especially not when the question was VLQ
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21:23
Damn neat.
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Getting closer and closer.
"I get different behaviour with G++ 4.8.2 (the compiler that HackerRank uses) and my Visual Studio 2013 compiler:" That's a good sign you may have hit undefined behavior at some point. — πάντα ῥεῖ 59 secs ago
@πάνταῥεῖ Not really.
Implementation defined behaviour, compiler bugs, standard library bugs.
Lots of possibilities.
@Rapptz But mostly more likely, the code has some UB flaw, than actually hitting a compiler bug.
21:30
Do you think I misunderstood the question here?
I'm not quite sure whether the OP is looking for a trait or something
@Rapptz Also, doesn't implementation defined behavior mostly stands for implementation of undefined behavior?
No?
@πάνταῥεῖ No.
implementation defined is a real term that's used for real in the standard.
It's not a shorthand for something else.
> behavior, for a well-formed program construct and correct data, that depends on the implementation and that each implementation documents
@πάνταῥεῖ Implementation defined behavior must be documented. Implementation of undefined behavior does not have to be documented.
21:34
There's s.th. new to learn every day. Got it!
Like. Speling.
say, anyone here get Loot crate?
? swag?
> and constant narrative filibustering
lel
@thecoshman class LootTraits { typedef unsigned long long value_type; /* ... */ };
@sehe Who spelt wrong, where? Easy to miss :P ...
21:44
He might be referencing "s.th."
@πάνταῥεῖ Presumably referring to "something".
@JerryCoffin The shortcut I've been using? Yeah, what's actually wrong with it? I already got pointers about it, once using here. Is there a better (e.g. "sth."), more usual shortcut, or should I just always type the whole words.
nobody uses a shortcut for that word.
@Puppy Well I'm a lazy and lame typer, but thanks. I'll keep writing it in full in future.
as you should do
21:49
@πάνταῥεῖ I prefer to type out entire words unless they have well-known, widely understood abbreviations (e.g., "USA", "UK", "AC", "CPU", etc.)
By "AC", do you mean Air Conditioner or Alternating Current?
That's one of the chats with the most fully written sentences I've recognized all around anyway. And that's very good so.
@Blob anti christ
@πάνταῥεῖ The goal is to counter act a tendency for people to get lazy, careless and inaccurate
21:51
Wow. Just got an accept on a 2+ year old answer.
@πάνταῥεῖ ⚡DC
@sehe I completely agree, as mentioned that's good so.
After all, you have all the diacritic markings applied to your username :)
@Blob Somehow reminds me of the backronym given to the band "AC/DC" decades ago (claiming that it stood for "Anti Christ/Devil's Child".
@JerryCoffin ¬_¬
@Puppy vOv 'we' apparently tolerate 'p'
21:56
@thecoshman That's less a matter of our tolerating it than of Cat being too intransigent to do it right.
@JerryCoffin KISS, he's a dick :P
pirate so
@sehe Have you convinced your wife of the wisdom of that idea?
TIL dolphins, like people, can/do have sex just for fun.
@JerryCoffin she doesn't like pirates. They smell
22:09
@sehe Only of the tag.
@wilx They can be rather aggressive too, so it's something to watch out for if you're training them
@JerryCoffin Oh. I didn't really talk to her about that
what about internet pirates who shower once in a while?
News just in: Y'all need a snuff box!
@Blob Hey! I shower frequently!
@thecoshman Sorry, but golden showers really don't count.
You have made a swan enemy this eve ¬_¬
@JerryCoffin You keep off my booty
22:11
@thecoshman No problem. All the booty is mine!
damn you!
@thecoshman Attempts along that line have been tried for years, but thus far remain ineffective (or at least if this is hell, it's a really comfortable one).
I gift you then, a sense of impending doom!
A friend of mine just had her training day in a leading market research company in London. They are using Windows 95 (or even earlier) - if you make a typo, you have to delete the whole line...
lmao
22:27
... what?
@thecoshman That isn't a joke
@Columbo Windows 95 did include actual editing capability. Honest.
@JerryCoffin She just told me it was "shift backspace enter" to get to the previous page, it was pure hell for everyone involved - perhaps Windows 93 or sth. like that
I didn't believe any computer in any halfway serious company in the world would run 2000 or less, but this is just insane
Sounds like a regular web page, right
@Columbo The immediate predecessor of Windows 95 was Windows 3.1 (sort of, anyway). In any case, Windows has supported edit controls since version 1.0 (though rich-text controls weren't added until Windows 95, if memory serves).
22:32
@JerryCoffin This answer went 1303 days without accept: stackoverflow.com/a/5856742/85371
@sehe LOL
@sehe Seems strange to me (especially now that comments asking people to get their accept rate up have pretty much disappeared).
maybe they forgot, googled it, came upon the thread
noticed they're OP, and accepted the answer
@JerryCoffin Yeah. Karma is a saint :)
I have 31 answers that have gone >365 days before accept (with 4 of them going over 1122 days!)
@sehe How are you finding that? An SEDE query?
22:35
@JerryCoffin Seedy? data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/266347/… (linked to my userid. I don't recall how to make a placeholder)
@sehe you viing (sp?) for a medal?
@thecoshman what? I prefer u tlk s.th. more clear
Xeo
Xeo
> Fixed a rare bug where Steam could delete user files when failing to start
hehehehe
@sehe trying to spelling the word where you are trying to convince them to give you something
22:40
Doing a quick check, my longest was accepted after 1334 days, and I have 6 at 1000 days or more...
Quite similar :) How many over a year? 39 over a year
@sehe Hey, looks like I managed to count to 39 correctly. Given my usual counting ability, I'm a little surprised.
> after 1334 days
That's highway robbery! They could have waited 3 more days... /cc @рытфолд
@sehe Would've been pretty cool, wouldn't it? Oh well...
I use crutches :)
22:46
@sehe Much better idea.
Jan 12 '12 at 23:53, by sehe
You can see why I stick with sehe. It is short, and I am lazy.
@sehe Cheating is encouraged at (almost) any cost.
It feels so wrong using Rust for xlib and glx stuff... it's more or less all about avoiding Rust's safety :(
Yeah. It makes much more sense to use C there. So you can be extra clumsy while being unsafe
22:49
I think this one had the record days between answer & accept: stackoverflow.com/a/340578/85371
:'( this feels so dirty... array[0] as *mut i32
@sehe How long was that?
E_TOOLAZY
@thecoshman dirtier: hairy ({}) a* smut i69
only trying to your
22:54
@sehe "Dirtier Harry" the sequel to Dirty Harry.
I played with that. But I thought I'd slip in Rightfold's vagina instead
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@JerryCoffin But I wouldn't learn so many new words otherwise
Someone spotted that wide-open oppty for out-of-context quoting. Finally

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