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@rightføld Outside? Peasant.
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My neighbour keeps like twenty of them as pets.
I'm about to learn CUDA coding. I'm scared.
@orlp Happens all the time to me, look at all of this cruft: github.com/makulik/sttcl
One of my neighbours used to have pigeons too. He switched bird species now..
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@CaptainGiraffe ask Cicada
user1804599
00:01
She knows a lot about it.
user1804599
Time to acquire food.
@CaptainGiraffe I remember when I first learned CUDA. I just followed NVidia's user guide and went along just fine with it.
user1804599
I had this great idea.
@rightføld How would I go about and ask Cicada? Just any cicada?
user1804599
I should buy thousands of military rations and store them under my bed.
user1804599
00:03
I can keep them there for years and I won't be hungry at night.
Ell
Ell
I got loads of rations off my bro
they are actually pretty dece
@rightføld You are quite the odd one in the tree aren't you?
user1804599
Why?
@CaptainGiraffe He likes to play the part.
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@Ell Is he in the military?
Ell
Ell
00:05
Kinda
user1804599
Is he horse-hung?
Ell
Ell
I have no idea :L
user1804599
That seems pretty reasonable.
Ell
Ell
to be horse hung?
user1804599
No, for you to have no idea.
00:07
I'd rather keep crackers in a cool spot of my room, instead of rations.
It's not like you'll be stuck in it.
Crackers are terrible after a while.
Well, how about cookies?
Ell
Ell
I mean I guess it's mostly down to DNA
so I ought to have at least some idea
> There are two sides to me, a side that wishes to feel needed, wanted, loved and have meaningful relationships. And then there's the side that knows I'm better off on my own as an independent, solitary philosopher who doesnt need humans to live 
eh
@Jefffrey sounds like something a girl would say.
00:13
sexist
or he was a farmer (hopefully the latter?)
wat
where does it say anything about genitalia in that quote?
@Jefffrey omg I dont feel needed pls love me
@DonLarynx or he was "facejack'd"
lol
are you 13?
00:14
what does that have to do with genitalia?
you can't be in here if so
yeah, a 13 year old at FSU.
it's quite normal for heterosexual males to desire companionship
unless you've missed the last million years of human evolution
or maybe the minimum is 13, I don't remember
Yes it is perfectly normal. But not normal to explicitly state it.
00:15
it's perfectly normal.
What is FSU?
Ell
Ell
@DonLarynx lol what
are you kidding me?
it's perfectly normal unless you are an immature young male who is afraid of his feelings
Ell
Ell
Do you know how adults convey that they want something?
00:16
@Ell brb telling all of my friends I need to feel needed and loved.
Ell
Ell
they ask for it
@sehe care to fill out the old poll there.
@Ell I don't ask, I demand.
clearly you did miss the last million years of human evolution
Ell
Ell
00:17
@DonLarynx and demanding isn't explicitly stating?
@CaptainGiraffe Something like STFU.
Never mind, everyone. Back to business. drinks coffee
@thecoshman nope
Apr 30 '14 at 22:34, by sehe
Okay, I'll say it. Unconference freaks me out. I'll just maintain that I won't have the time (which is true) so I don't have to decide :S
@sehe mind just doing so for the 'no'
user1804599
Instant noodles, it is. Also known as 3D-printed pasta.
00:19
what Cicada go by these days?
@thecoshman Don Larynx
Ell
Ell
@sehe it makes me anxious too
sbi
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@sehe Decide what?
@sbi wether to go or not
@sbi to have a good time
@DonLarynx guy, poll
00:20
that guy is not invited.
@rightføld The day we can 3D print pasta is the day that humans as a whole truly advance.
@Puppy which guy?
sbi
sbi
@Jefffrey Where?
mister "Desiring affection makes you a rampant homosexual" over there
00:21
@sbi unconference
@sbi Unconference...
sbi
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@thecoshman What's there to decide about? Who wants to have a good time anyway?
@Puppy "last million years of human evolution" It was really that much? I'm on a time screen of about 200T years regarding human evolution ...
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> Food Ration For Survival
FOB Price: US $0.8 - 1.3 / Piece Get Latest Price
Min.Order Quantity: 500 Piece/Pieces
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Neat.
sbi
sbi
00:21
@Jefffrey I didn't ask what?, I asked where?
@sbi the unconference is a place
a place...placeholder
@πάνταῥεῖ I'm not sure of the exact dates, but it's something on that scale.
@Puppy lol
@Puppy oh, I should have checked that name first.
@thecoshman yes
00:22
:)
sbi
sbi
@Jefffrey That was yesterday. And today? (Meh.)
user1804599
I should buy a hypermodern bunker, a ton of rations and a shitload of batteries.
@sehe smeg head
thanks
@thecoshman Yeah, I was joking :D
00:23
Hi
Can I talk Objective C in here?
no
nope
Nope.
sbi
sbi
@πάνταῥεῖ Wouldn't that depend on how you define "human evolution"? I mean, use of fire is in the million year range, IIRC.
too late.
sbi
sbi
00:23
@Jefffrey So. Which place is it?
Haha! The other room is not active as much.
Ell
Ell
@sbi we aren't sure yet. the poll is to vote on a place
but I predict london
@sbi the place in which the unconference will take place
I just need some basic help on xCode.
sbi
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@Ell I knew that much. :-/
00:24
you should really search the internet for a solution
@RahulKhosla I doubt anyone gives a crap about Obj-C code in here, sorry
@Puppy I was on WiFi. Damn ping.
@RahulKhosla so?
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@Ell Oh. I am afraid that this will overtax my temporal and financial reserves.
@Puppy I tried but I just need a work around for turning ARC off. I turn one thing off, and the errors fix, but then other errors come.
00:25
@sbi Ahh, use of fire is a really good indicator. I really was just wondering, I'm certainly no expert.
I'm just starting out.
@RahulKhosla I don't know why you keep asking when it's clear that we're not interested in aiding you.
Yeah, this guy is not taking the hint.
Is it because i'm talking about Objective C?
@sbi shame
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00:25
@RahulKhosla What is xCode?
@RahulKhosla Why don't you start out in C++. It's a language we can all hate together.
@rightføld Mac OSX's IDE
user1804599
No that's Xcode.
sbi
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@πάνταῥεῖ Homo sapiens sapiens is currently believed to have left Africa about 50-100k years ago, so the 200k years might be a good estimation for when it came up. But there were predecessors, even those named "homo".
@rightføld not a compiler
So this guy invented naked classes. stackoverflow.com/questions/27882394/…
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00:26
Bye Jefffrey.
@Jefffrey ...
user1804599
Oh not b&. :(
@sbi Fire is a million years. Homo sapiens is only about 200k I think.
@FredOverflow any interest in unconference?
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00:27
@Puppy Just one million?
@Jalf ... hey... not seen him in a while...
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I was too slow with accepting the flag.
@sbi Something in that range, yes.
@sbi tech be fast bro
00:27
@rightføld </3
sbi
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@thecoshman Say what?
@rightføld Thanks anyways, I guess you tried.. I hope.
@sbi damn straight
Round 2?
00:28
Wikipedia says that fire dates back far enough that most of the evidence has been lost in the meantime, considering that we mostly applied it to organic things that ew then ate.
0.2-2mya for controlled use of fire by a homo species.
@RahulKhosla of what?
@JerryCoffin @Mysticial @StackedCrooked @EtiennedeMartel @Rapptz mind filling out the poll guys, even if just to say you'll not come.
sbi
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@Puppy "At Koobi Fora, sites FxJjzoE and FxJj50 show evidence of control of fire by Homo erectus at 1.5 Mya" – Homo erectus
@RahulKhosla So, let me understand. You come in here, you ask for help. People gently decline. You stay here and keep asking for help, then flag one of the people that basically lives here for a message that was clearly sarcasm?
@Nooble He's is posting offensive racial messages, personally attacking me and I try to report him but he keeps removing the messages.
00:30
I think that's more or less all the regulars
@Jefffrey Do you think racism is a joke? I don't.
If some of those yanks actually commit to coming on over, it could sway the location.
@RahulKhosla No. How does that have anything to do with anything.
@thecoshman You... You forgot me! (joking)
I have no idea what "race" is yours.
Ell
Ell
00:31
Hmm
So you just assume'd I'm a certain race? That's even more offensive to me.
You got here asking for Obj-C help and people declined telling you they don't care about Obj-C. And then you asked if it was for Obj-C, which was... a stupid question?
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@RahulKhosla Jefffrey is generally an asshole. It's best to ignore him.
@Jefffrey Don't feed the trolls, just ignore them
I'll actually plonk the guy, so no need to worry.
sbi
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00:32
@RahulKhosla FWIW, I have validated your first flag, because I don't think this makes for a good joke. OTOH, you have been told to drop it, and didn't. So let me spell it out straight: If we aren't helpful, and if you don't like us, then why are you still here?
@rightføld Thanks, I figure.
@Jefffrey You know what I am...
@Nooble An animal.
user1804599
Good, now you ignore each other. No more hate in our lovely room.
sbi
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00:33
@RahulKhosla You know noffunk, Jon Snow.
@Rahul: Wrong room
@Jefffrey Well at least I'm not a shoe!
@orlp Probably not. But don't quote me on that.
Koala > Shoe
@sbi Thanks.
00:34
@Mysticial Actually, it seems for reasons that are a fucking mystery to me that the regular algorithm just works
sbi
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@RahulKhosla Kthxby.
@sbi Although I don't understand your Game of Thrones reference.
@RahulKhosla Why don't you learn C++ instead of Obj-C?
@Mysticial Which is a < b ? b - a : a - b
@Nooble I had a good app idea, I wanted to see it through.
00:35
I figured iOS was to blame.
@RahulKhosla What kind of device doesn't have a C++ compiler?
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@RahulKhosla And that good idea was to come to the C++ room with an ObjC question? Oh please never tell us about your bad ideas.
Oh god iOS
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Swift.
@Mysticial so apparently aR < bR ? bR - aR : aR - bR ≡ |a - b|R mod M
00:36
@Nooble I just looked at a few guides and it said to use xCode, using Obj C, I don't even know what C stands for to be honest this is all quite new to me. I'm still on HTML/CSS.....
lol, the guy is still here
Oh.
Let me help you with that.
@Mysticial it feels wrong for my gut feeling, but it works
@rightføld I barely have any iOS (coding) experience.
C, C++, C#, Objective-C, and so on and so forth... are different programming languages. Different.
00:37
@sbi You have the power to kick him, if you need to.
@E_net4 Totally different?
wait what... since when are you not an owner
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@Borgleader Why do you think I have?
Does someone need to be kicked?
I feel trolled. trolled hard. like I am in troll stronghold.
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00:38
@Borgleader A couple of years.
@rightføld what language have you chosen for the video game?
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@Jefffrey Clojure.
They sort of have the same "father", which makes them somewhat similar in syntax.
@sbi Wow... I just noticed...
00:38
C came up first.
@rightføld You really just want to torture yourself don't you :D?
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@Borgleader Are you pulling me leg?
@Nooble Why?
@E_net4 So why is everyone kicking off when I asked for Obj-C help? You just told me they are similar in syntax. By your definition, if you know C, you know them all?
@sbi No seriously, I just noticed. It never occurred to me that an elder such as you wouldn't be an owner.
00:39
@Nooble At least Clojure has an ecosystem of some sort.
@Jefffrey A game in clojure?
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@Nooble ?
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Clojure is a very nice programming language.
@RahulKhosla They're still different languages!
We cannot bear the thought of making them the same.
@RahulKhosla Syntax is irrelevant. We are only annoyed because you are in here asking for help persistently even when it's clear that we don't want to help. You're wasting your time and ours. Just go somewhere else.
00:40
@Rahul are java and javascript related? ask yourself, and then do more research.
That's a nice research assignment.
@rightføld It is. Let me take a step back. Is this a graphical game? Are you writing it from scratch or using a library?
thnx @E_net4
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@Nooble I'm going to use Swing for graphics.
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I've done it before and it works very well.
00:41
omg wow "if you know C you know them all" wow I am in troll stronghold gentlemen.
Ell
Ell
@Borgleader depends what you count as elder
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@Borgleader Are you trying to tell me that you have never heard of the commotion that made me step down a couple of years ago? (And you missed the day Shog made me an owner again? And that I kicked the one who's always been mad at me ever since, re-installed the old owners, and uninstalled me, giving everybody the chance to talk about why I haven't been an owner for years?)
@Puppy There's a massive difference between don't and can't. Maybe you meant the second.
@Nooble What does it mean "making a graphical game from scratch"?
@RahulKhosla I definitely meant the first. But the distinction in this case is irrelevant.
00:42
@sbi If I ever did, I don't have any recollection of it now.
@rightføld Oh alright then. Have fun!
@Puppy You couldn't if you tried... ;)
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Dankeschön.
In my defense Shog9 ownered Jefffrey a few weeks back and that was un-done within 24 hours. He seems to do that "often"
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It's so nice.
00:43
#burn.
@Jefffrey OpenGL, DirectX or Software Rendering.
oh gawd, it's the "You're too stupid to help me" card
user1804599
The API is like, (.drawImage ctx my-image 20 30).
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:D :D :D
can some owner just kick this guy already?
00:43
@Nooble those are... libraries?
@MohammadAliBaydoun So here's the gold plated version. With comments. Live On Coliru. Now, create the fucking SO question. Preferrably with the code as image :/
@Jefffrey At your service ^
@rightføld that's neat
@Puppy @Mysticial could.
@Jefffrey Technically OpenGL and DirectX are.
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@Borgleader That has been a long time ago.
00:44
@Puppy Which guy? I haven't been paying attention.
Me apparently @Mysticial.
@Mysticial rahul khosla
Haha. A trio of ex-owners. ApeBearPuppy can't kill the Troll
@Mysticial @RahulKhosla
@Jefffrey Of course I meant not using low level API's.
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00:46
@sehe If you still feel like you aren't able to, you haven't not been an owner long enough. (I feel like I don't need to.)
@RahulKhosla Did you really just...
@Nooble I don't think it's that obvious. Not for me at least. By "scratch" I would probably think "without using third-party libraries (not including standard libraries)".
@sbi I was just noticing this. And note I was laughing about this
And doing graphics without third-party libraries is basically impossible in C++.
@Nooble Yes, I did.
00:47
@Jefffrey BGI for the win! Turbo Graphics. Yay
@Jefffrey Fine Jefffrey. Fine.
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@sehe You were noticing what?
The clamouring for owners, and all I could see was former owners
@RahulKhosla Why?
If he annoys us again, I'll boot him.
00:48
@Nooble I don't understand, why what?
lol the irony
@Mysticial Bet you cant boot him faster than your new PC :P
We don't do the flag wars any more, right
@Jefffrey I cannot believe you remember that.
00:48
Because we have kicks now. Why annoy all of the 10k+ community
Ell
Ell
I don't think I'd want to be owner unless necessary
user1804599
Ugh stop flagging that god dammit.
user1804599
What the fuck.
@Nooble Me neither.
Ell
Ell
Too much responsibility!
00:49
You would deserve it, at least by age.
@Ell I'd happily accept that position.
Why?
@Mysticial the mystery continues... clearing the bottom bit of one of the random variables speeds up the algorithm by 3%
@sehe He was here since ever?
is cpplounge the most active chat room on SE?
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00:50
@RahulKhosla That does it now. You come in here, get a bunch regulars up against you, and then want to be a room owner?! @Mysticial, can you please kick that guy? Now.
@Jefffrey Sure.
@Pris It's the best.
@sbi done
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@Mysticial Thanks.
00:51
@Nooble well now thats just subjective
@sehe I think there are messages from the very first day with ell in it.
@Pris No. It's official.
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Jesus Christ.
Also tony IIRC.
@sbi He probably wanted to be numerous things before he came in here and did numerous foolish things. I think he's bored. Like 50% of the population
@Jefffrey Who on earth was talking about Ell. Did you plonk someone?
00:52
@Jefffrey Where is that guy... I dont recall seeing him recently.
probably more @sehe. 97%
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@sehe Yeah, prolly. Let him be bored elsewhere.
Ell
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@Jefffrey I was here at the very start , but barely active until a couple years after
I heard the cheering from outside the chat.
@sehe yeah, rahul guy
00:52
@DonLarynx Depends on what population IYAM
@Jefffrey The "Why?" was directed at Rahul
2 days ago, by sehe
@Jefffrey smooth
@thecoshman When and where?
nvm then
00:52
im surprised that the chat rooms aren't really that active relative to what i imagine SE's traffic to be like for people who participate in the QA part
chatting should be mandatory!
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@FredOverflow At the starboard. Now.
like... a user count of 56 right now. i bet there are thousands of people on the site right now though
This room is distracting. I will see you all later.
@DonLarynx eh
00:53
@Pris To have an active chatroom you need awesome users, and they're all here :P
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@Griwes Oh I love his 5th!
Ell
Ell
@DonLarynx you got that right. Bye :)
@sehe You'd like me to create a question on SO for this? c:
@DonLarynx Bye!
@MohammadAliBaydoun Well. It's customary to get rep when doing unpaid boring work :)
00:54
@Borgleader if by awesome you mean perpetually angry
@Pris The two are not mutually exclusive
this is true
@MohammadAliBaydoun trololol :) I'll make sure to post the answer quick enough to not ruin your rep for posting images of code
@Pris That's silly. That never happens here.
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00:55
@Pris Never confuse disdain with anger.
If you can post it soon (1:55am here)
id say disdain is worse
yeah I better go to bed too
Night.
waking up at 6 tomorrow
00:55
@sbi The option "Ergh, those places all suck, I want Other!" seems kinda pointless, given that there is already an "Other" option.
bed:
    goto bed;  // Oblomov, p.42
considered_harmful:
    goto considered_harmful;
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@Ell That reminds me, when are you leaving?
@Nooble You are being unintentionally rude I believe.
@FredOverflow not bad, tweet worthy; not as apt though
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00:57
@FredOverflow I wouldn't know. I did this a few days ago and immediately forgot what options it offered and which I picked. Unless it's in Berlin, or very cheap and happens at a very good time, I won't be able to go anyway.
@sehe And my parents ask me why I can't get out of bed! I can't get a break!
@Jefffrey nope. he's leaving monday
Ell
Ell
@Nooble I'm leaving monday
@Nooble hehe, just made me think of a comment there
@Ell Aww... I was thinking, due to time differences, it might be earlier for me.
00:58
@Nooble lol
@sehe I found it funny for about 10 seconds.
You're an average goldfish
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@sehe I'm tagging it [c++14]
@sbi I guess from now on, if enough people I trust say to kick someone, I'll just do it. I won't waste my time trying to get context.
@MohammadAliBaydoun sure
Ell
Ell
00:59
@Nooble what timezone are you in?
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@Mysticial Well, that is what "trust" is all about, isn't it?

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