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14:00
No music is perfect for anything when it's ruined by an incessant buzzing in your left ear :(
consider visiting doctor
@thecoshman I don't think terminal window looks much better at 4K
Not even 4'33".
@Puppy Soon.
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@BartekBanachewicz its about real estate
@AlexM. fuck you I forgot my headphones today
@Ell no, it's about pixel density
if you want a bigger screen, buy a bigger screen
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14:04
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don't threedot me
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Bigger screens don't offer more real estate if the resolution isn't increased
@Ell that's a common misconception
tvtropes: BiggerIsBetterInBed
Chat disappoints again.
@BartekBanachewicz lol
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@BartekBanachewicz how do I get more real estate without more pixels? :O
14:05
@R.MartinhoFernandes not everyone is a tvtropes freak hth
@Ell with bigger pixels. They're perceived differently when they're bigger
I think Bartek means that on a bigger screen you can make things smaller because otherwise they're too fucking huge and sit in your face
and if you make things smaller more things can fit in
anyway, I have my laptop next to me, which is 12.5", and two 23" screens. They run the same resolution, but I naturally fit way more on the bigger ones
@AlexM. You can make them smaller and ugly at the same time, yes.
14:06
well, that's true too
Good luck doing that with text, btw.
@R.MartinhoFernandes by some standards, running a 80-120 dpi screen is fucking ugly in general, yet people buy 24"@1080p every day
heck, they buy 47"+@1080p
I like my 1080p @ 24"
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@BartekBanachewicz a surefire way to increase real estate is increasing display size while keeping pixel density
I don't have to zoom in on webpages anymore
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14:07
Right
I've got a 24" 1080p and can't say that I'm really feeling a problem with low DPI.
a 600x600 window still takes 600x600 regardless of screen size
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@BartekBanachewicz I have a 52"@1080p :P
Why was I drawn into a discussion involving Bartek?
14:07
so I get the same space to play around with that I get on my 17" 1080p laptop
@R.MartinhoFernandes why the fuck is this a problem now?
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(As a TV so doesn't really count)
I also have a 5.3"@1080p
(My phone)
Or maybe its 5.7, can't rememver
it's hard to compare working with text and watching movies though
I'd say reading text requires the highest DPI to notice real improvements
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I agree
but
still, buying a bigger screen with the same resolution up to some point will give you more space to work, as long as you can cope with ugliness
say, 19" -> 24" keeping 1080p
14:10
Where does the extra space come from?
physical size?
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@BartekBanachewicz right, but that only goes so far
you don't see a 5" 1080p screen the same as 24" one, even if you keep it 5 cm from your eyes
@Ell certainly
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I see what you mean though
I mean by all means go for highest resolution and size possible
14:12
@BartekBanachewicz You mean bigger pixels?
@R.MartinhoFernandes yep
might have to do with my terrible eyesight FTR
focusing your eye on something furhter away should normally work, but since I wear glasses, the distortions introduced at some focal lengths might be more pronounced
@BartekBanachewicz That effect disappears after a certain threshold.
All further increases in size make no difference, really.
well then, how would you explain the mere existence of 27" 1080p screens?
If my screen was much bigger, I would have to sit further away in order to watch full-screen videos. I would be unable to reach the keyboard, phone etc. I suppose I could compensate with a bigger desk. I would need a bigger office. I would have to to move house.
@BartekBanachewicz It's not to provide more working space, because they don't.
14:17
if we're talking about just text, I might agree
but say for web browsing, images with slightly worse dpi might not look much worse
Er.
If you make the image use less pixels on the screen you have to downsample it.
or upsample if it's physically too small
That goes regardless of pixel sizes.
I believe artifacts are more pronounced with bigger pixels, though.
I frequently zoom in on web pages, for example
@BartekBanachewicz ... is that serious? or you trying to be funny
@R.MartinhoFernandes jazz
yeah, if you have a physically larger screen at the same res, yes you can get away with making text smaller, but it get's hard to see, you can only do this so far. Ideally you want a larger screen with the same (or better dpi) that way fonts can be larger (in terms of pixel count) but smaller in terms of % of the screen. That lets you pack more content onto your screen without much draw back
14:26
@thecoshman Yes, but larger with the same dpi means larger with higher resolution, not larger with the same resolution.
@BartekBanachewicz So you'd pay 12k upfront and take higher maintenance cost (machines like that need a lot of power and a good cooling design to work properly, this is no longer repurposed desktop area) to do a 2-hour job that requires this amount of RAM/CPU/whatever
Yes that makes sense
Whatever happened to your 'do everything in butt' stance anyway
Local storage bad but local computing somehow more important?
local CPUs and GPUs are mostly parked vOv
@BartekBanachewicz Try GPU streaming over unreliable WAN
try streaming anything over unreliable anything
@CatPlusPlus No such thing in Bartektopia.
14:30
Hint: networks are inherently unreliable
some are more, some are less
you can get a stable 20-30ms link if you say connect only trough local nodes
Yes, some are carefully designed LANs, and some are rented parts of oversold uplinks
@BartekBanachewicz That might explain why he suggested offloading the computation, not stream a workstation.
I think it really all hugely depends on the particular needs
Sure
Notice that I keep mentioning hourly-based needs
14:32
Yes, it does. And given the particular needs your suggestion is beyond ludicrous.
orite.
welp, in Bartektopia we could, again, just carry around terminals and everything would be stored and computed in the butt
Running a machine like that 100% of time for the whole month is another story, but even then it might just turn out that local maintenance costs are higher than paying someone else to worry about the hardware
in the perfectly load balanced butt
@CatPlusPlus the only real problem imho is something actually breaking
one faulty blade in a datacenter is a calculated loss. One faulty home server is a catastrophy.
In a DC you'll see hardware failures every week
I suppose the more machines you have, the more often something will break
14:35
One server will fail, it's just a question of when
Especially if you actually need utilisation close to 100% all the time
Ask Mysticial.
but I love my server okay
I pet it every day
the only thing that's too bad is the speed of light
we'll never be able to say get 1ms pings to US :S
I overclock my lightbulbs
They have a hidden multiplier for c
14:39
btw how's that you're not asleep @Cat
Hard to sleep in the office
@BartekBanachewicz I wouldn't be so sure about that. The theoretical FTL travel and signals may be completely beyond us right now, but I wouldn't bet that they'll stay that way indefinitely.
a) not really
b) I thought you worked from home
We have a new office that's closer to me so I'll probably be here more often
Also fuck light, let's just use quantum entanglement or something
@CatPlusPlus That needs manual transportation of the bits.
14:41
Science fails me yet again
@CatPlusPlus not really
Also built-in Django error reporting is annoying me
> ERROR 2006 (HY000) at line 330: MySQL server has gone away
> We all oral and oral or all four or oral or all of them are all full and all are poor or four or more or on an oil or four zero four or oral or
ERROR 2015: you're still using MySQL
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14:45
hmm, somehow I suspect that is not what was said.
@CatPlusPlus oh cool
fucking virtual machines
I created a new one but now it just totally doesn't work at all even though it's identical to the old one.
@Puppy maybe that's the reason
@BartekBanachewicz Sub-1ms pings are not difficult at all. Move your office to the US.
what, the reason is that I despise this system that I am using?
14:48
In today's episode of 'Puppy is bad at'
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What do you mean by 'doesn't work at all'
Doesn't boot?
Triple faults?
the library I am using is a Microsoft library that is very tightly integrated.
stores all the settings in the registry, etc.
so you basically can't isolate it or make it work reliably at all.
@CatPlusPlus I thought that was a gymnastics thing.
and if you sneeze at the machine, it changes behaviour drastically.
@MartinJames It's when CPU does a backflip
@Puppy lol - you need windscreen wipers on your display.
14:50
@Puppy There are tools to sandbox apps and enumerate all changes it made to the system you know
@CatPlusPlus Do they work on COM components that are integrated directly into Windows?
Hell registry sandboxing is even built-in to the OS
@Puppy COM components are not magical
no, but they're also not apps.
What's the thing anyway
well, I actually can't say.
I was just venting my frustration.
14:53
You can trace the registration process because it's done either by regsrv or the installer (plus it's documented)
it's super secret and sepcial
For all other changes you can just trace the application that loads the component
it's installed with Windows.
it's super secret and septic.
so unless I can install a tracer prior to Windows being installed, I can't trace installation.
14:54
If it's installed with Windows then what's the problem
Windows installations are perfectly repeatable
well, they should be.
but for this particular component, they are not.
so, how do we make a good toy lab for our kids?
we put URANIUM in it
The Gilbert U-238 Atomic Energy Lab is a toy lab set that was produced by Alfred Carlton Gilbert, who was an American athlete, magician, toy-maker, and business man and inventor of the well-known Erector Set. The U-238 Atomic Energy Lab was released by the A.C. Gilbert Company in 1950. This lab's intention was to allow children to create and watch chemical reactions using radioactive material. The lab contained a cloud chamber that allowed the viewer to watch alpha particles travel at 12,000 miles per second, a spinthariscope that showed the results of radioactive disintegration on a fluorescent...
P sure being exposed to small amounts of uranium is not harmful in any way
> This toy is looked upon as being dangerous because of the radioactive material in the set, but Gilbert claims that none of the materials could conceivably prove dangerous.
so said the creator too
It's natural Uranium in 'small' quantities. There are more lethal things on sale for children, eg. bicycles.
14:57
@AlexM. Newsflash: uranium is used in all kinds of things, and is not particularly dangerous.
..though it has to be said that the name is misleading, unless all the 235 has been removed.
@AlexM. nowadays it would be way worsely looked upon if it had uranus in it
> 238U is also used as a radiation shield
So there you go
anything would look good with myanus in it
shit I need coffee and we don't have a coffee machine yet
@MartinJames U235 makes up less than 1% of naturally occurring uranium.
Good idea! I do have a coffee machine :)
@R.MartinhoFernandes Even if the U was depleted, it woul still make the name somewhat misleading.
ok so toys with uranium in them are safe
TIL
like anything else, it depends on the quantity.
Shit, my typing sucks today.
15:02
The lead and polonium in it are probably worse.
you could also buy extra uranium from what I see
@AlexM. Did you know bananas are radioactive too
it's unlikely for kids to stockpile uranium tho
@AlexM. Well, since you can find almost anything in anything with a mass spectrometer, it may be that all toys contain uranium.
15:02
@AlexM. Stockpiling uranium ore?
@R.MartinhoFernandes Step 1 of 4182 of world domination!
Mercury thermometers are more dangerous than toys with uranium
I guess that all plastic toys are radioactive 'cos C14.
what if we drilled trough earth to the US
it's shorter than on the seabed
you'd probably be accused of espionage and terrorism
Have fun with that
15:06
@BartekBanachewicz There may be some temp/pressure issues?
Dunno if you're aware but the planet is not exactly empty inside
(That's just me)
That's what the Nazis want you to think.
The Hollow Earth hypothesis proposes that the planet Earth either is entirely hollow or otherwise contains a substantial interior space. The scientific community has dismissed the notion since at least the late 18th century. The concept of a hollow Earth recurs many times in folklore and as the premise for subterranean fiction, a subgenre of adventure fiction. It is also featured in some present-day pseudoscientific and conspiracy theories. == Hypotheses == === Ancient history === In ancient times, the concept of a subterranean land inside the earth appeared in mythology, folklore and l...
Nazis went to the moon
Iron Sky: The Coming Race is an upcoming Finnish comic science fiction action film directed by Timo Vuorensola. It is the sequel to Vuorensola's 2012 film Iron Sky. The film is currently being crowdfunded through Indiegogo and is slated for a 2016 release. == Premise == Twenty years have passed since Nazis from the moon invaded Earth. Following a nuclear fallout in Washington, D.C., the President of the United States is evacuated to Antarctica and enters the "Hollow Earth" - a vast subterranean civilization. There, she rendezvous with Adolf Hitler and his pet Tyrannosaurus "Blondi" and begin their...
why do people use peak when they want to say peek
15:07
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's a required conclusion by a hollow brain.
so annoying
> Adolf Hitler and his pet Tyrannosaurus
"I'll go take a peak" you're going to take a mountain peak or wat
the arc difference between Gdańsk and NY is about 90 degrees
People are bad at spelling things they only ever heard
See also 'should of' and friends
15:09
the, uh, lowest depth would be the difference between a circle and a line
somebody bring me that coffee
Sure, I ear and understand stuff in other languages, but I cannot spell what I've only herd.
the line is half of square root of 2
the circle is 1
the difference is around 0.23 of earth radius
@R.MartinhoFernandes of course... but you're coming across as saying that a 2" 1080p is just as good as a 20" or 200" screen of same resolution.
I'm sure you'd get some prize if you could drill all the way through the core
Not if you went through though, because dead people don't get much out of prizes
omg boost::function doesn't support nullptr
15:13
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@CatPlusPlus I'd say you deserve a prize for getting to it first.
Why would you want to tunnel to NY? The merkins would use it to dispose of rubbish and your city would fill up with fast-food cartons and Twinkie wrappers.
@CatPlusPlus to get to US in a straight line you'd need to be only 1846 kms deep in the deepest point
see also that Russian deep bore hole project.... and Lost
@BartekBanachewicz from where?
15:14
Also 'Poland importing US beer' lol
@MartinJames they like cheap crap
ah
seems that running out of disk space corrupted more than just the VM.
@Puppy Ah.. all is revealed.
around 2200 degrees celsius
welp, it's pretty hot down there
So, a bit warm, then.
The Bud/Coors would boil away.
15:16
@MartinJames yay!
I think there are conductive materials able to withstand 2200C
like wolfram
@BartekBanachewicz Not many. Mebbe some tungsten alloys.
@BartekBanachewicz sounds like more fun to work out at what rate you would need to force water into the tube at one end to keep it cool enough all the way along
@BartekBanachewicz Well we've got like first 10 covered, the rest should be trivial right
@CatPlusPlus by induction
15:19
'Nozzle guide vane girl' at the club said she would not even bother to test anything metallic above 2000C, no matter what it was made of.
@BartekBanachewicz There's also question of pressure
eh, and all of that to save 10% in length
Note: don't hire Bartek to do logistics
@BartekBanachewicz so you're saying we need to go deeper...
15:21
@Xeo don't you work there
Xeo
Xeo
guess why I posted it :P
@CatPlusPlus s/k.*/k/
@thecoshman Nerd
@CatPlusPlus s/Nerd/omg you're so awesome with your leet regex skills/
:'( sorry
Nope, still nerd
@Xeo I like how they only link to Daedalic (jesus who came up with this name)
Oh just a reposted press thing
Xeo
Xeo
ye
Oh, I forgot to check what happened with 'Most Stationary Rocket of the Year'. Google..
I laughed so hard in the car when that first aired
OK, wobby servo on 2nd stage. Bummer.
15:45
@BartekBanachewicz tungsten? just popped up from somewhere in my head. No clue whether it makes sense
is that a hdmi to garden hose cable
Happy fun times today in France.
@Griwes Relevant.
recommend wireless gaming headsets ITT
@BartekBanachewicz Pick a not wireless one.
There, done.
15:56
@BartekBanachewicz steelseries siberia is what I'll be getting, but is not wireless
Also, what you want for a gaming headset is something that's comfortable, cheap, and ultimately unkillable. So I say go for a Siberia v2. Sure, it kinda sounds like ass, but that's really irrelevant for gaming.
@BartekBanachewicz what the canook said
do you guys think this is intuitive or shouldn't ever be used?
@EtiennedeMartel being cheap isn't that important for me
@EtiennedeMartel don't say that to gamers, they are totes serius
15:57
I'm torn between the one coming with its own usb sound card ($60 more) and the one not coming with one
@Gizmo Terrible.
also I don't get how "sounds like shit" is irrelevant to gaming
positional audio is more important
unless you play games with nice music only
I use a Siberia headset for gaming, and Sennheiser headphones for everything else.
@AlexM. I play mostly games with either ambient music or LoL so yeah
well maybe Guns Of Icarus could use 7.1 sound
15:59
good headphones in CS earn you many "YOU FUCKING CHEATER HOW DID YOU SEE ME BEHIND THE WALL" messages from angry kids
I don't play shooters at all.
Although my brother is actually pushing me towards dropping the headset and just getting a SM7B instead.
welp, I guess I'll buy Logitech g930

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