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12:00 AM
Katy is dangerous
 
i want mcdonalds
haven't had any in 2 weeks
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Of course, she is teh p3ngu1n of d00m.
 
> Absent the one-dimensional view, it would be perfectly reasonable to say something like “You feel pain? I have felt pain before too. I’m sorry about your pain. It would be incredibly crass to try to quantify exactly how your pain compares to my pain and lord it over you if mine was worse. Instead I will try to help you with your pain, just as I hope that you will help me with mine.”
@VáclavZeman maybe the article could have been less of bla-bla-bla let-me-explain-the-world-in-one-chapter, and more of this ^ essence
@AlexM. it's telling. Your withdrawal symptoms are affecting your attention spans. I mean, even more than other times :)
 
@sehe He sums things up in XI.
 
12:08 AM
Getting there... I'm a really slow reader
> The boot acknowledged my pain! So compassionate!
 
It is a really long article.
 
dat burn
 
I wonder if there are any feminists in the Czech Republic. I cannot recall ever hearing about any.
I guess that means we are a patriarchal country and I must be privileged.
 
@VáclavZeman To sme na tom podobne ;)
 
@ScarletAmaranth :)
 
12:24 AM
ste spodina krajiny
 
@sehe lol, where did you get this? :)
 
@sehe really? :(
on the bright side
I'll get my fix tomorrow
 
@AlexM. a bit :|
@AlexM. The kids might too. Though I'd prefer to visit a Greek restaurant if I have a say in things
 
@VáclavZeman There must be females in the Czech Republic? I remeber seeing some and, otherwise, they would have died out by now?
 
@Xeo is there a tweet worthy thing to spread/give more attention to? It is interesting yes
 
Xeo
12:26 AM
@sehe hackernews
 
@MartinJames Females but not vocal feminists that I could notice. :)
 
Xeo
 
Ah. The site that I never can remember. Retwoten for good measure
 
It's like 'the pub with no beer' in the club tonite. Everyone is moaning about going back to work on Monday. JCB, RR staff all screeching and wailing:(
 
@MartinJames I am kinda looking forward to go to work. The feeling will last only for the first day there though. :)
 
12:34 AM
Congratulations Don Larynx, your debugging level is now 2!
 
why are you referring to yourself in 2nd person
 
because it reminds me of runescape
and it's 3rd person
 
nah, it's 2nd
 
second person would be "you"
congratulations you, you are etc...
 
I drink socially,
 
12:36 AM
@DonLarynx You know that 2! is equal to just 2, right
 
You get pissed.
 
no, 3rd person would have been "Don Larynx's debugging level is 2"
 
They get ratted and arrested.
 
^ that
 
the way you put it is 2nd person because it's A talking to B about B
 
12:37 AM
I drink antisocially
 
Thanks @AlexM.
 
@MartinJames who gets what? Ratted = betrayed? By their own lack of judgement?
 
also you have way more work to do until you get the debugging cape
 
@DonLarynx I feel left out...
 
There are debugging levels on SO? I mean, above zero?
 
12:39 AM
@AlexM. It's dangerous to go alone! Take this! Hands debugger
 
@sehe I didn't understand your 2! comment
 
2 x 1 = 2
 
2 factorial
 
^
 
I know this, yes @sehe
 
12:43 AM
:(
 
Thank you @sehe, said Don.
 
Ah. The feels
@Jefffrey you need to map it in Disk Management mmc snapin
 
Ell
Designing apps for "Linux" is too barebones. There needs to be a distro with a limited but standardised set of libraries guaranteed to be installed
Or something.
Really all I want is quality controlled repos I guess
No not even that
Boy I just don't know what I want
 
target Ubuntu's marketplace
if people don't use Ubuntu or derivatives I guess it's safe-ish to assume that giving them a list of dependencies to install is going to be ok
 
> acculutration
Damn. Made me google it. Turned out to be just a boring typo
 
12:51 AM
@Ell The way it is done is you simply declare you support given Linux distribution and its version.
 
Ell
@AlexM. Debian and variants have certain sucky aspect s
I'm trying to design my personal best Linux distro with gentoo as the base
 
@Ell Ellnux
 
Ell
:D
 
So, which aspects do you think are sucky?
 
Aspect Oriented Operating System
AOOS
 
Ell
12:55 AM
The package management
> You have held broken packages
The desktop environment sometimes
Configuring monitors
Configuring most things
 
I like Xubuntu, that's what I use when I need to use a linux
 
Ell
I use Linux Mint atm
 
I like the package manager except for one thing
 
I have Arch Linux. With xfce4.
 
I kinda wish it showed you names that are similar to the things you're searching for
if I apt-get install blah
 
12:57 AM
the wpf designer is not much fun
 
I want it to show me blah1.2 blah.13 blahwhatever as available
vs. telling me there's no package called "blah"
for some packages it does that I've seen
it says something like "the package's name is <name>"
 
I've been found out. I have a module called 'blah' :((
 
Well, I'm pretty sure you can Tab your way into seeing suggestions.
The packages are locally indexed anyway.
 
It used to be called 'usefulStuff', and contained reentrant free functions. Now, it's 'blah'.
 
@MartinJames that sounds good
another legitimate use of "blah" is in s/manager/blah/
 
1:01 AM
> Then again, there’s also enough information out there to prove that gay people don’t cause earthquakes
hah
@Ell just don't pin, don't mix repos/manual packages; oh and don't even think about getting Gentoo :_)
 
But gay people couldcause avalanche right?
Not because they are gay ...
 
Ell
I don't mind configuring things manually
 
@chmod711telkitty they could cause earthquakes too, then
 
Ell
Id rather configure manually than use gnome-control-centre which doesn't actually work half the time or has missing settings options :(
 
@Ell that explains why you ever got "you have held/broken dependencies" and such :)
 
Ell
1:05 AM
I guess :P
 
@Ell Of course. However, g-cc doesn't relate to essentials of package mgmt last time I checked. And if it does (too lazy too check) those dialogs are a sane subset of exactly what apt.conf allows
 
Ell
Yeah it doesn't
I guess I just want a smoother desktop experience
I should try extending gnome control centre myself
 
@Ell that sounds a bit conflicting
3 mins ago, by Ell
I don't mind configuring things manually
 
Does this look right? rtlString.erase(rtlString.end());
it's not working
 
Ell
@sehe like I said before, I don't know what I want :P (and as it turns out, what I do and don't mind)
 
1:08 AM
@DonLarynx it's deleting an invalid iterator. If you're lucky, that's allowed, but my guess is no. What would it /do/ in the first place (no-op?)
 
You might want Arch Linux.
 
You might want cheese cake
 
it deletes the last character in the string @sehe
 
@DonLarynx No it doesn't
 
However, @sehe, this worked ltrString.erase(ltrString.begin());
 
1:09 AM
It's tough to install and have everything you want, but then you get near maximum control over what you have.
 
@sehe ?
 
@DonLarynx but it does something else
@DonLarynx rtlString.erase(rtlString.rbegin().base());
 
rbegin?
 
@DonLarynx Where did you read about iterators? Read it again. An end iterator does not point to the last element in a sequence. Not ever. Not even with pointers.
 
1:10 AM
@DonLarynx possible that rtlString (whatever the fuck it is) doesn't have it
yesterday, by Don Larynx
thx I keep checking cplusplus without remembering cppreference. sry
 
@sehe
k is 0 and rtlString is 13.
after deleting, k is 0 and rtlString is 13.
 
Are you drunk? There is no k. And rltString "is" 13? Sure. The answer "is" 42.
 
k is my index in the for loop.
that's from console output
 
@DonLarynx your index in "the" for loop. Whatever. I'm not seeing all your posts. Or you mean you posted it in the right place?
@DonLarynx Anyways. So. /what/ is the character pointed to by p in that sample?
 
user image
3
 
1:15 AM
@Griwes whoops. professionals
 
The power of names.
 
well, the string in question is "13". In my mind, str.erase(str.end()); deletes the character "str.end()".
which is 3
 
@Griwes if only they didn't use 's for the names
them being chromecast or w/e
 
Interestingly, that's from this google query
@DonLarynx As programmer, you will want to get used to the fact that "13" is something very different from 13
9 mins ago, by sehe
@DonLarynx No it doesn't
The funny thing it, you already know it.
 
it worked!!!!!! Thanks @sehe
"13" and so str.begin() is 1, I thought that str.end() was 3 but str.end()-1 is 3.
 
1:20 AM
@DonLarynx Look closely at the picture :)
Also, I was wrong earlier. It is till str.rbegin().base()-1 anyways. I always get that wrong.
reverse_iterators are not very intuitive (when converted)
@DonLarynx The real wisdom would be that the end iterator is never part of the sequence. (This makes range(it, it) the empty range, e.g.)
It's always 1 past-the-end (exactly as with array bounds: (arr, arr+N)), and it cannot be dereferenced
 
"An iterator to the past-the-end of the string.". ohhhh
 
Ell
Maybe I just need to stop myself every time I go to make install and instead write a package
 
@Rapptz Fuck, I just unboxed an unusual.
 
13 mins ago, by sehe
@DonLarynx Where did you read about iterators? Read it again. An end iterator does not point to the last element in a sequence. Not ever. Not even with pointers.
It's rather essential. It's really the first thing to know about iterators
@Ell Nope. Just make sure you don't contaminate the base system (configure --prefix /usr/local or --prefix /opt/custom/ etc)
 
@Mysticial Cool. I unboxed a Strange Festive a couple of days ago.
 
Ell
1:25 AM
I do install to /use/local always but it still feels dirtier than a package
 
@Nooble is that a condom flavour/theme?
 
Ell
And not all things come with make uninstall
 
@sehe It's a TF2 item.
 
Of course. So, is it?
 
Worth a lot on the steam market.
 
1:27 AM
Ah. So it is :)
 
Sure.
 
@Nooble I'm trying to figure out how much thing is worth...
 
@Mysticial Check the steam market, just search for a listing and look for past sales.
 
Only one other one exists with the same effect.
Goddamn.
And it's not for sale.
At least that's what it's listing.
 
What item did you get?
 
1:29 AM
Death at Dusk Whoopee Cap
I don't play scout often, but I guess I will now.
 
I remember the days when TF2 had no hats, and no item system at all. Oh, those were the days.
 
It's not listed. Although it looks like it could sell for 2 keys or so.
 
backpack.tf only lists one other owner.
2 keys? lol
 
Really?
Nevermind then.
 
Uh..
 
1:31 AM
It might be worth a lot.
 
Unusuals are worth much more than "keys".
 
Yeah, don't fool yerself there. x)
 
No price listed. If there really is only 2 in existance, it's all up in the air.
I don't intend to sell it.
Since it's my first unusual.
Unless someone wants to offer something ridiculous.
 
Other games, perhaps.
 
@Mysticial ...
 
1:32 AM
@Rapptz Yo, I need your troll detector for this shit.
 
If there is only one more owner, it's more rare than a Golden Frying Pan.
That thing is worth thousands.
 
Especially if it's an interesting hat.
 
Whoopee Cap is community created IIRC
 
projecteuler.net/problem=37 I've found the first 10 primes. Finding the 11th one is taking forever.
 
@E_net4 I dropped a couple of screenies in the Maid Cafe: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/19367846#19367846 /cc @Rapptz
 
Xeo
1:37 AM
@EtiennedeMartel I.. uhm.. what
 
> to whom it may concern, I’m doing you a massive favour and being super nice in saying that i’m not publishing any comments which include the following:
“PIV as rape trivialises real rape victims”
and “but, but, I like sex and you’re insulting women or men who like sex”;
and “you’re just doing sex the wrong way”
Nice followup by the author...
 
@sehe The trivialisation part is actually right on it.
Anyway. Insane people on the Internet.
 
@sehe PIV?
 
Google told me it means "penis in vagina".
 
@Mysticial Like you said, backpack.tf lists only one more owner. This has to be worth a ton. Consider yourself lucky.
 
1:41 AM
@EtiennedeMartel Oh.
 
Yeah, I had to wiki it too.
 
That makes it painful. However, her refutation is commendable:
 
I was going to say that this was an unusual subject to first see when joining the lounge, but it’s not
 
> To be a rape victim isn’t a competitive elite oppressed status reserved to a special few women, which loses in specialness as the number of rape victims increases.
I'd love for arguments to be refuted so accurately in all related discussions. Precisely this "non-zero-sum" notion seems to be missing all over the place
@U2744SNOWFLAKE Indeed it's not. Hi
@VáclavZeman Etienne started it!
 
1:42 AM
@EtiennedeMartel me too, actually...
 
Xeo
@sehe Basically "I'm going to ignore anyone who doesn't agree with me", eh
 
right, let's try this again
 
@sehe: I have only read first two paragraphs. She is clearly insane. :)
 
@VáclavZeman Hmm. I don't concur. It's a definition matter. I'd say her definition doesn't "work" well in practice, add much value or enable new progress. But to say it's wrong... Well. It's not generally accepted as true.
 
Ell
People that claim any PIV sex is rape are just absolutely crazy and it makes me so angry when I read that kind of article
 
1:45 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Are you doing this to [javascript] on purpose =(
 
@Xeo Maybe. I haven't checked all the comments to see whether there was much (explicit) dissenting (there was quite a bit of suspected sarcasm, IMO)
 
god damnit
where did you come from?!
 
From the cloud
I prefer U+2745 TIGHT TRIFOLIATE SNOWFLAKE or even U+2746 HEAVY CHEVRON SNOWFLAKE clouds, though
 
Unicode off.
 
@sehe You beat me to it =(
 
1:47 AM
@Ell Hehehe. That's funny. Seeing how you tried to defend anarchism recently :)
 
❄❅❆ – sorry, but at small sizes, I prefer the simplicity
 
Ell
@sehe I don't see the relevance o.O
 
❄...
 
@Ell "all power is infringing on freedom by definition" (too lazy to make it more accurate)
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit: So, did your debugger break, or
 
1:48 AM
@U2744SNOWFLAKE Apparently
 
Ell
@sehe of course its funny if you don't make it accurate :)
 
I wonder what would j*lf say, again. :)
 
My router disconnects all devices for about a minute every ten minutes to five hours. Any ideas?
 
@Ell Already made it slightly more accurate. I think it's just the usual territory of uselessly malleable definitions.
Today I learned this might be known as "motte and bailey doctrine" (or corresponding fallacy)
 
@U2744SNOWFLAKE Overheating causing resets?
 
1:51 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That’s disgustingly plausible
 
:)
Right well there's no way I'm getting five answers off this question, is there?
I'm rubbish at this hat
 
ROBTOS!
 
Ell
1:53 AM
Uh oh
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You need to bikeshed more, but in a way that makes everyone hate only you
 
@Ell as I remember you tried for a few hours failing to make it any bit more accurate, so I don't see why I would have more success
 
@U2744SNOWFLAKE I used to be good at this :(
 
^ corroborated (the last part, at least)
 
lol an upvote
 
Ell
1:54 AM
@sehe I at least used "application of physical force" instead of "power"
 
Can you delete it for me please @U2744SNOWFLAKE? I can't any more.
 
Yeah, I really have no idea what is happening. I think I'll go to sleep.
See you.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Nah, I’m going to answer it instead
And upvote
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes night robot. Hope you're okay
 
Haha okay well if you can find three friends to do the same then we're all set ;)
 
1:55 AM
@Ell nah. Maybe that too. But "power" was frequently addressed in that discussion. Not gonna find it though. You may be right.
 
I wonder whether I can also get Major Award by offering a bounty on it then self-answering...
 
Ell
@sehe I can't remember to be honest
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit What a life
 
Ooh two down.. three to go
17 minutes on the clock
 
@Ell By the way, PIV very much requires application of physical force. Mmm.
 
1:57 AM
Well. Before I go to sleep I'm ordering the last Iain Banks book I don't own.
 
Ell
That name is familiar
 
It should be
 
Though I'm not sure if I don't have it.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Heretic!
 
Are you guys talking about rape?
 
1:58 AM
Among other things, maybe... Why?
 
Good night.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Maybe you should do the ordering after sleeping
 
Too late.
Or early, depending on how you see it.
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes night :)
Don't be sad robot
 
If I have it, it'll be a lending copy!
How do you gather I'm sad?
 
2:02 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Which one?
 
still need three answers in 11 minutes :(
 
I hate rape. It's too yellow in the summer, and my sister-in-law is allergic to the oil. We use sunflower for cooking.
 
whatever happened to Lounge spirit?
@MartinJames That's because you don't use legitimate rape
 
@VáclavZeman Against a Dark Background.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit In our house, it's statutory to avoid rape.
 
2:04 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes That is a non-Culture novel, right?
 
Ell
You just seemed sad
Idk o.O
I'm bad at reading people I guess
 
I have all his Culture novels, all his non-SF novels, and all but this one of his non-Culture SF.
And he's dead so I can be sure the collection is complete!
 
That was a terrible joke.
 
2:06 AM
> If we look at the act in more detail (skip this parag if you can’t take it), PIV is a man mounting on a woman to thrust a large member of himself into her most intimate parts, often forcing her to be entirely naked, banging himself against her with the whole weight of his body and hips, shaking her like he would stuff a corpse, then using her insides as a receptacle for his penile dejection.[...]
 
@MartinJames :(
 
> [...] How is this a normal civilised, respectful way to treat anyone? Sorry for the explicit picture, but this is what it is and it’s absolutely revolting and violating.
This is hilarious.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes No you can't. Late discoveries and posthumous publications happen
 
Nah.
He knew he was going to die so he finished everything.
Then he took the rest of life to spend away with his wife
 
@VáclavZeman Java garbage-collection?
 
2:08 AM
'Twas a "x months to live" thing.
 
@Ell or bad at spotting when there is enough information to read. Pro tip: To read between the lines, you need at least a few lines :)
(BTW: yes, his curt "Good night."/"Too late." blinked on my radar as well. Just not as sad. Potentially tired (3am) and not interested in a smorgasbord of hat hunters, radfem trivia, iterator essentials tutoring and lengthy discussions about social warrior articles)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Mmm. Could be he lied. Could be he forgot about stuff in attics. But, yeah. Makes it less likely there is anything left he actually /wanted/ published
 
Ell
@sehe I also read "Dunno." As sad
(As a reply to "Sup?")
 
Dunno
 
2:11 AM
@U2744SNOWFLAKE holy buckets
also holy HTML-based code formatting
 
@sehe and fwiw, he never wrote sequels so there's no unfinished series or any of that cliffhanger bullshit.
 
o.O
 
oh hey this is a good answer
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit So that's what was going on. I was already viewing the source(ry) /cc @U2744SNOWFLAKE
@LightnessRacesinOrbit pathetic. 3 mins?
 
So do self-answers not count =]
 
2:17 AM
@U2744SNOWFLAKE guess not :(
so close
oh and 138,000 rep exactly yay
 
That can be fixed.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit What are you going for now?
 
Can you kick mods?
Just curious.
 
@U2744SNOWFLAKE upvote on bounty answer
Major Award
now that's cosplay
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Nice
 
Xeo
2:28 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes nope
Also, you wanted to sleep
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit that's an awkward hat
@R.MartinhoFernandes you have to be close though
 
@u2744 thanks
that guy is mad
 
Try asking more interesting questions for hats
(Although, why would you? The Chameleon hat is better than anything else)
 
@U2744SNOWFLAKE Pirate hat is the best hat
 
2:44 AM
0
A: Why doesn't my textbox show an updated value every second?

Nitesh VermaJust reverse the arguments in setInterval. setInterval( function() { i++; $('#timer').val(i); }, 1000);

ah you bloody bastard too late
@U2744SNOWFLAKE I'm happy with #10 but I don't want to lose it in the remaining 21 hours
 
user3010322
@StackedCrooked Quick question: on Linux I can use a low-level OS waiting function and it'll wait for the maximum allowed FILE DESCRIPTORS for the process (changenable, max is usually the maximum of 65,535)
 
user3010322
But on windows...
 
user3010322
.... MAXIMUM_WAIT_OBJECTS is... ... 64.
 
user3010322
What... ... how do I wait on more than 64 handles?
 
user3010322
At the moment my solution is to have a crap-short timeout (100 milliseconds) and loop and just wait on 64 handles at a time.
 
user3010322
2:49 AM
But that seems... well. Bad?
 
Ell
@ThePhD when you say wait on handles you mean like select()?
 
user3010322
No I literally mean WaitForMultipleObjects
 
@ThePhD You have to outsource the waiting to a different thread or you have to use different notification mechanism, like completion ports or APC.
 
Ell
 
user3010322
2:53 AM
Oh.
 
Ell
I guess you'll need lots of threads :P
Or youlk have to loop and wait single on eCh
 
user3010322
I... shudder to think the impact of that with 10K connections. ;;
 
user3010322
I wonder what APC is.
 
@ThePhD Async. Procedure Call.
 
ooh I forgot about 2014 Wipe
 
2:56 AM
technically, if your birthday is on feb 29, you are "int(n/4)" years old. where n = current year - birth year.
thus making your attempt at breaking the old age record impossible.
 
user3010322
It looks like I'm going to have to do things in a scatter-gather fashion.
 
@ThePhD: I think that using completion ports is a better idea for 10K connections.
 
Ell
^wait for all objects impl
 
user3010322
Bah.
 
user3010322
2:59 AM
Writing a chat server is goddamn hard.
 
@DonLarynx No, not technically
You’ve had that many birthdays, but “one year” is something pretty specific
 
Oh true @u2744
 
Ell
3:43 AM
Night all
 
@Ell Night ell
 
4:05 AM
wahey that was good
 
4:51 AM
ha
 

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