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private void HandleTurnStarted()
{
	print("The troll's turn started... and ended. Poor troll.");
	_turnTaker.ReportTurnEnded();
}
whee, I'm having fun with the debug log
what if we all have the fate of the troll above
no matter what we do, it's like taking our turns doesn't do anything in the long run
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My friend wants a console replacement
I recommended him a £270 build which was basically an A10 plus bare minimum other stuff
is that AMD?
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Yeah
An APU
ordinarily you'd just replace a console with another console.
there's little point purchasing a PC just for gaming.
^ this (the first line)
00:06
well, if he doesn't want mid-range gaming I guess AMD is fine
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He wants a PC I mean
the point and power of a PC is that it does things other than gaming in a not-tremendously-shitty way and therefore is worth investing more in than a console.
some AAA studios cough Ubisoft cough have shown signs of favoring nVidia over AMD until future patches at least
has to do with nVidia tech and their marketing
it's ugly I know but I'd buy nVidia anyway
AMD's APUs are shit, btw.
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They don't look so bad
00:07
you get better price/performance going Intel and discrete card from AMD or nVidia.
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Really?
yes.
what the budget?
@Ell Of course.
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Oh wait yeah of course
00:08
AMD can only make money selling to the very bottom of the market, it doesn't make sense for anyone else to go there
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But they cost much more even though its cheaper per unit performance
@Borgleader £300
Excluding OS
they don't necessarily cost much more.
say, Far Cry 4 for example, has a setting for realistic (I think it's ugly though) animal fur, available only on nVidia
people have reported ambient occlusion to have a greater effect on nVidia vs AMD but I have not checked this
but it's a kind of, sure you pay less now, but you're just going to have to spend more money sooner in the future to upgrade.
and the framerate was better on nVidia vs AMD from the start, as people have reported
00:09
PCs are investments in the long term and the general case; not cheap gaming machines.
also yes
don't buy cheap PCs for gaming
your friend should just buy a console if he can't afford a discrete graphics card and an Intel processor.
not in a mean way, but seriously.
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I guess so
00:10
they're built for literally that exact case.
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I don't really game much
Only casually
also
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So I don't know a great deal
you've kinda got to include the price of Windows if you're not happy with an illegitimate copy.
For consoles, you're paying for convenience and longevity.
00:11
because Linux and Mac gaming is a joke.
still
@MarkGarcia I've read about people replacing consoles often
manufacturing defects can happen
like, this guy bought 3 or 4 different PS3s during the console's lifetime
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He already has a spare copy of windows
Legitimate
but consoles definitely don't last as long as PCs, although they are cheaper.
00:12
and they were like "my PS3 got broken after 2 years so it's time to buy a new one"
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Linux & Mac gaming is getting better
I personally don't think that the economics of consoles work out.
me neither
they are cheaper, but every accessory and game is more expensive, vendor lock-in and shorter lifespans, fewer functions
the old gen is also getting very little in the way of relevance with exclusive titles being ported to PC
so unless you go PS4/Xbone, it's meh
00:13
I think it's cheaper to just pay a whole bunch of money for a decent gaming PC and then sit on it for a few years.
but if you go PS4 HOLY SHIT EACH GAME COSTS 60 EUR
10 games = 600 eur
ain't no Steam Sale there.
I gotta say, Steam Sale man, that shit is just ridiculous.
My PS3 has lasted me about 5 years
00:14
@AlexM. Those are the 10% who make noise, the others don't.
it's taken me literally years to stop buying every bargain on there because there were just so many I literally could not play all the cheap games on offer.
@Puppy I stopped buying at ~230 games
I've played maybe 40
I keep on buying games
don't mind it that much
like, I bought Two Worlds 2 + expansion for 2 eur today due to the sale
ain't that much
Meanwhile, Firefox be like "Oh sir I'm so sorry I can't sync your stuff, really I am very sorry IT'S OUR FAULT." when your connection drops.
anyway, my general experience is that PCs are expensive up front but in the long run, they're much cheaper propositions.
00:16
@AlexM. Its not much but it adds up and since I have so many to play already well...
in a way, that applies to me too
in another, it doesn't
if I don't like a game in the first hour it's a very big chance I just stop playing it
If only Intel stops changing sockets every generation...
so it's more of a "I won't play the majority of my Steam library" vs "I haven't played the majority of my Steam library" for me
@MarkGarcia A lot of people say that but I change my CPU so un-regularly (3-4 years) that I usually need a new mobo anyway
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@mark yeah that'd be nice!
I played banished earlier
Its very fun
Seems like an easy version of dwarf fortress
00:19
I want to play CS GO but it doesn't run well on my laptop
I have to wait until home and desktop
ahh well
I play M&M VI right now
let's just say that the challenges of Banished change dramatically at the small, medium, and large scales.
very fun, with (somehow too) big dungeons
no but seriously people back in the day had lots of patience
the shit is huge
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ATM my problem is not enough firewood
00:21
get woodcutter -> get logs -> problem solved.
ahaha, I ran the game and wondered why nobody was taking turns
turned (pun not intended) out I didn't implement any sort of turn taking
I must be over the ballmer peak
and I was so excited to see that debug message
@Borgleader Well that's a good argument, but I don't think they really need a socket change every generation. Just put enough pins in there and deal with the mobo firmware and stuff. That way people could still upgrade, say, two generations ahead without changing their boards as really few people need that additional SATA port or PCI lane.
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@Puppy yeah I got some now
It just happened at a bad time. It took a few attempts before people didn't either starve or freeze through the winter
And boy am I shit at cs go though
I'm shit at FPSs in general.
I need to be in the right state for CS or any multiplayer FPS
not too sleepy, not too fresh
otherwise it doesn't work as well
00:28
I definitely found with CS that you have to be in the right mindset.
I'm either too confident or too uninterested
if you're not then you just spray everywhere.
yeah
you've gotta be calm, precise.
@MarkGarcia Same here, that's why I play TF2 because you don't have to shoot accurately to be useful.
00:29
I sometimes go into streaks of really good shots, but after that crankiness gets in.
amazing, turns work
time to commit and call it a day
Commit it before a bug is discovered! :P
well, I'm sure bugs will show up later on
I delegated the decision of what ends a turn and what doesn't to my turn takers instead of the thing deciding whose turn starts, so I'll probably stumble upon oversights like
I just got the luckiest crate ever.
casting a spell with party character X doesn't end the turn for the player and still lets character X + 1 play
00:33
I got a Strange Festive Backburner.
the conditions for turn ending can be so many I just didn't want to gather them up in a single place
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@puppy yeah spraying is the worst thing you can do
not in all situations
but some
unless you're playing office and have a negev :P
I also spray with the P90
I mostly play M4A4 and Galil AR
gotta admit I had some record negev on office
00:36
but right now I want all of the achievements so I'm doing all weapons on DM
play Ts, rush garage, come around the back of CTs in long hall, kill like 6 players in 3 seconds
I don't play AK47
I feel better with the Galil and the damage I can make with it is ok enough to not make me want to just switch to AK right now
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I only played one game on dust today
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I prefer sg553 over ak47
ak just has a bad feel for me
00:37
you know what else has a bad feel for me? the deagle
it's like they threw any trace of non-random spread out the window
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My brain is expanding it feels
I agree
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And not in a good way
guy on the steam forums said it best "you're firing a RNG"
really not a fan of deagle.
could neve rmake it work reliably
00:38
yup
eh
I think it's not random, I've seen people with pretty nasty accuracy with deagles
@Jefffrey How did the UPPERCASE_CONVENTION not give it away?
seen some deagle vids myself, no idea how they pulled it off
w/e, I just play glock/usp/5-7/cz75
and avoid the deagle
00:43
This is probably one of the best shooters I've played in the last 7 years.
p250 I prefer
Then again, I'm a sucker for objective based shooters.
I don't like glock or usp, 5-7 is literally just a p250 but with more bullets and costs too much
I played deagle a few times lately since I got a new skin for it but generally since I got the deagle achievement I haven't touched it
yeah but the 5-7 has the kami skin :(
kami is my favorite skin
cz75 is a nice support weapon for a sniper or something but not something I'd use as a primary weapon
00:44
"You know what would be a great skin? Carbon fiber and a red line on it." obvious answer is "Duh!"
but if someone came and said
in any case, pistol rounds are a bit awkward
"You know what would be a great skin? We take a page from a manga and just slap it on the weapon."
CTs win by simply reaching the hostage and nobody plays correctly
you'd normally just raise an eyebrow
but they made it work
I never get to play hostage missions
then again, I enabled all of the maps :P
so it's my fault
honestly the new rotations are not that great
I much preferred the hostage/non-hostage choice
as in, all the non-hostage maps are shit
00:48
Speaking of Insurgency
I should play some.
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Ahh I feel sick
I feel like my physical state is rapidly rapidly getting worse
hah
guess I'm the only guy in the Lounge who actually did get better.
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And that I'll be dead within two hours
Ell is turning into old Puppy
what happened to you today ell?
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00:52
Not much really. I woke up, played some toybox turbo with the fam
Installed windows on my brothers computer
Watched a clockwork orange
Oh played banished
Got in bed
Now suddenly bad headache :'(
probably just cold/food poisoning
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I've had a cold the past few days but this morning it had cleared
Its probably that still lol
Or maybe I'm just dehydrated
@Puppy decided when you're going back home yet?
already am home
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Oh I see
When do you go back to work? Or are you already?
I work weds and fri
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00:57
Cool
01:20
I likely won't think so
got a bitch of a problem to work on
> Using programming languages such as C++ and Java, a programmer
writes the code that allows a game ’ s text and graphics to be displayed,
develops the control systems that allow a player to interact with the
game, creates the camera system that allows the player to view the game
world, programs the physics system that affects the player and game world,
writes the AI system that controls enemies and object scripting … you get
the idea.
I tried to put myself in the shoes of someone not knowing what a programmer does
this description felt a bit technical
and didn't get the idea in the end
01:37
Thanks for the reminder PayPal. God knows what I'd do without you.
I'd appreciate that, especially during a Steam sale :P
if PayPal is not my primary money tool
lol I got this email yesterday
I don't know why
I keep using PayPal to make indirect purchases with my credit card
I'm too afraid of adding another card to Steam
I don't know what will happen
maybe I'll get market-banned for a month again, for "verification purposes"
How easy is it to get "processed" webpages in python? (by processed i mean not the raw html, but rather the one after the javascript has run)
javascript does not just run once.
01:41
depends on what you mean by "run"
javascript can be triggered by lots of things
e.g. a button press
yeah i know
basically i want the page after the "onload" has fired
is some sort of web browser library out of the question?
in .NET I'd just hide a WebBrowser control :P
all javascript is interpreted by the browser, right?
so browser X can do things differently when it encounters window.onload if it wants
(which is why I suggested a library implementing browser functionality)
@Borgleader > There’s more to a producer’s job than game design and in some cases, a producer doesn’t even design the game. But what are you doing skipping ahead anyway?
why is this book doing this
it's like breaking the 4th wall except it isn't
what's next, me randomly changing to a page and seeing a footnote saying "Go back to where you were before."
hes keeping things interesting
I liked this one though
i figured the author liked choose your own adventure books
01:49
the footnote was a few centimeters below the word
it was pretty obvious that most people would just skip ahead those centimeters and read it
it's nice if you look at it as if the reader is a player and you spotted that in the given context there's a huge chance the player might do something, then placed something interesting there
or maybe I'm looking too much into it :P
anyway, cloaked design lesson or not, I liked it
02:50
the lounge is dead
and so am I, at least for the night
well, morning
a bit quiet too early
i fucking hate c++ sometimes...
03:44
I want to create a website that notifies users that it uses cookies for the purpose of remembering whether the user has seen the notification or not.
These cookie notifications on websites are just annoying.
04:12
wut
if every time you log on a game which is rarely, this one person sends you a private message straight away, how could the person do it other than having system admin power
I know every game is different
but how many games send you notifications when certain other users log on?
05:14
TARS WHAT IS UR GAME SON
05:24
TARS OMG U TROLL
RETRO THRUSTERS
@R.MartinhoFernandes okay this is no fun without you x
The last message was posted before you were born.
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Coz like ... I r3ally wanna b stalked by the right ppl rarararrara
It could b ... Dat ... I r closet attention hooker
05:41
.. uea ,m8
Damn, I wanna try this someday. But with cheaper hardware...
nitrogen is bad for you bro
also star my frakking msg srsly
Freaking trains ... Hardly know trains on which platforms go where ...
Also my iPhone & android use different ISPs & gave me different results when I use the same app that I have written in objective c & Java separately
I also need new clothes, have to do clothes shopping soon
05:58
diude ur like.. uipside down
etf
wf8
wtf*
lol
look at me im loike @MarkGarcia
@MartinJames*
sorry for the ping @MarkGarcia
and that one
shit
@chmod711telkitty nit at all
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I was startled for a time there...
@MarkGarcia :D
ji
i mean hi
who moved my fucking keys
😳
😔
06:01
ur such a suare
sqyare
Ghost kittens?
are you ok?
sure
tars iusnt tho
tars is ab tich
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol
06:06
tars wont do what tars is told
Sometimes I feel like a sponge for love, no amount of it will completely satisfy me.
\sthats what watrs said
thats what tars saiod*
tars and me are like thqt _------><------
soprry im a bit dist4acted i am playin halo
thats why i cane tlak
thx for ur concern tho
i aprpeciate ti
hey look at me i am @MartinJames :D :D
oh shit there is ebola i sglasgow
The last message was posted when you were last sober.
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Good evening, compadres.
@AsteroidsWithWings ohai
its gd to see you again
orsmth
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A: Creating a tree using std::array

Lightness Races in OrbitA Node obviously cannot contain three Nodes. This would be a recursive relationship which could only end under one of two conditions: the end of the universe she cheats on you Your choice. IMO neither are optimal.

fuckn genius
I think you want array<Node*, 3> — SteveM 43 secs ago
wtf DUDE
06:59
can't decide between const char* filename, and const char filename[30]...
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@edition If you're storing a literal then the former.
I can't decide whether I'm writing bad C or terrible C with magic buffer sizes
@edition boost::filesystem::path filename.
or just std::string?
07:04
Or that.
I can't wait till college this year.
its going to be a year of programming.
lol
prepare to be disappointed
@edition You can try.
But it won't be easy I imagine.
Unless the filename is local to the current directory or something.
Stack overflow is being climatically insensitive
ie: for users in NZ.
Alright, I've wasted enough time on pcpartpicker.com. Time to be productive again and get back to Anime:
https://pcpartpicker.com/b/j7nnTW
https://pcpartpicker.com/b/Fhd6Mp
https://pcpartpicker.com/b/FLqkcf
I picked up "Monster" today.
I'm at episode 6 but I like it so far.
07:11
@edition So how does Stack Overflow proper compare to this room?
this is better
@Rapptz "but". Interesting.
There are 74 episodes.
great people, great conversation. Doesn't get any better.
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So I'm not close to done.
07:12
@edition Dang, just one word to be star worthy!
i say things
@Mysticial So Anime is pcpartpicker.com for you? :P
lol you can reconstruct fingerprints from photos
What a great security measure it is
I was 7 when Windows XP was released.
@Mysticial Still using an old keyboard huh? I use an old Compaq one for work. Works great for me.
07:19
GOODNIGHT FOLKS
@MarkGarcia Are you looking at that white Gateway keyboard?
That's my test keyboard.
Oh, you tricked me into talking!
:P
It's nice because it has USB ports on it. So I can shove a mouse into it as well.
07:20
hey, any tips on job searching?
I SAID GOODNIGHT FOLKS
My keyboard has USB ports in it too.
Goodnight.
Goodnight Lightness
night
@LightnessRacesinOrbit GOODNIGHT FOLK
07:20
Sleep well
Jesus $3k
get in
GET IN TARS
@Mysticial Is that Corsair case Obsidian or Graphite (or that other series)?
07:21
greetings, Hans
Hm. Seems to be the portable one.
@MarkGarcia It's in the list. Corsair C70.
Hello edition
@Mysticial Sorry, haven't yet read (pics speaks better). :)
@Rapptz Isn't UPPERCASE also for constants?
07:25
No.
What do they use for constants? lowercase?
They have them in enums most of the time.
Or static const with traits
Who are you referring to "they"?
07:27
like std::numeric_limits and friends.
@MarkGarcia The C++ stdlib.
user1804599
08:24
wooo silver C++ badge
user1804599
Also I understand prisms.

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