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10:00
@rightføld Noice.
hi QT-πs
@rightføld ahahah
this... is certainly not what I expected
Then don't use QTπ
It's Kitten Plus Plus!
10:08
@CatPlusPlus cold's up
snow's everywhere
my GFs plane landed 200km south
Down too
shit's happening
I've been watching Minecraft shit on tubyoube
Turns out Mumble's positional audio works kinda great
Xeo
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus haha, UHC?
10:10
what a coincidence
I've been playing MC lately
I've been playing mc with my family during xmas
My sexy voice
Although terrible mic, really amplifies my sssssssssssssss
@orlp tried to do that recently
got bored after 5 minutes and went back to factorio
I'd still like to do a modem in minecraft tho
Automation only with industry mods
10:14
I really like computercraft's turtles
no automatic harvesting kinda kills the game if you don't have 20 12-yolds farming for you
turtles farm automatic :D
yeah I have to admit I never really got into those advanced mod gimmicks
Also bukkit was taken down recently so there it goes for maintained mod community
the whole vanilla thing is made of gimmicks basically
Bukkit is just for a server infrastructure
Mod community is fine
I dunno, I don't like using mods in general
10:18
Technic even launched a new version few days ago
I know they can be powerful, but the fucking effort needed to get anything stable and playable is too much
That hasn't been true for a long time
I was speaking generally, not about mc in particular
I kinda got lazy and used to buy-on-steam/install/play scheme
It's not true in general either
inb4 I play shitty modded games
dunno, I don't like using too many browser plugins for the same reason
@orlp you know what always annoys shit out of me in those videos is that they repeat the broken building process instead of explaining principles on which the design works and only exposing caveats
10:21
We should do some mod exploration stuff
@BartekBanachewicz well I spend like half the video talking about how it works :P
OTOH explaining stuff verbally sucks too
so it's not your fault in particular
@CatPlusPlus this implies playing minecraft, no?
No, you can do it telepathically if you focus enough
point being
Point being poooooop
10:26
I can't tell if you're talking "oh let's see if there are any fun mods around" or "oh let's build three-tier server infrastructure with automatic mod deployment from mod sites added via plugins, with backups, running on dynamic instances, with in-game RBAC and customised dashboard monitoring panel"
For whoever wants to see Stallman streaming.media.ccc.de/saal1
Why would I want to see Stallman
10:31
@CatPlusPlus To have something to rant about
so far nothing to rant about
> want to distribute stuff to everyone?
> use formats that people can open
@BartekBanachewicz Cat always finds something to rant about
well frankly everything I've seen from Stallman lately isn't that bad
compared to i.e. Torvalds it's almost reasonable
@BartekBanachewicz haha
@bamboon I mean, it, I've been seeing those two names together way too often.
10:35
@BartekBanachewicz yeah, that's true
His slides remind of the ones from @R.MartinhoFernandes
you gotta admit that him failing to do a presentation using Libre Office is p fun though
hihihi
user1804599
Stallman is good at making text editors.
lol mayor asked people on facebook to get rid of the snow in front of their houses
chick goes like "seriously? I must work?"
user1804599
rightfold is the heroine of the day
10:45
> Stealing food is better than developing proprietary software.
sigh
Lol
Stallman is a bear
Its Stallman, you were expecting?
he should be called Stallbear not Stallman
Stalldumb
10:46
given how old he and his useless propaganda are, Stalebear might even be more appropriate
one of the admins on a forum I visit is crazy about stallman
keeps going on about how nobody is safe and everyone's out to get you and how you should do everything stallman says
user1804599
Stalinman
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Stealman
he did some weird things with the forum like making all users show up with the same ip address
and something related to Tor that I can't even properly name
user1804599
Can you like, grep Google Analytics stats?
if you have admin access to the forum, making all users show up with the same ip address is easy
user1804599
10:54
It would be immensely useful.
user1804599
inb4 mount gafs
is some collection of boost::variants a proper solution for this guy's question?
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Q: Statically iterate over all members of a C++ struct

WiSaGaNIs there a way to statically iterate over all members of a C++ struct? Say if we have many structs which look like: struct Foo { int field1; double field2; char field3; }; struct Bar { double field4; char field5; int field6; bool field7; }; And we want to have a te...

I never used variants and this looks like it could fit
I don't think so
user1804599
@AlexM. No, more like tuple or that Boost.Fusion.
Or wait till compile-time reflection becomes a thing
user1804599
10:57
Variant is what union should have been.
user1804599
It's a sum. Tuple is a product, like structs.
What annoys me most about Boost.Variant is that you have to derive your visitor from some base class
user1804599
Easy to remember: if there are n values of type T and m values of type U, there are n + m values of type boost::variant<T, U> and n * m values of type std::tuple<T, U>.
@AndyProwl I don't think you do
It's just some convenience stuff
@CatPlusPlus Oh
10:58
Because C++ is shit
Let me check
It's just a typedef
user1804599
Well then, Analytics API it is.
@rightføld so variant(a, b) == variant(b, a) where b & a are some values
lemme read about boost.fusion
user1804599
@AlexM. Variant holds a single value, not two.
user1804599
11:00
It's just union except not unsafe as shit, and you can retrieve the current type.
yeah you're right
Not that it matters much even if you did have to derive it from that
Oh no I have to type 10 characters more whatever will I do
I would like to be able pass any callable object without any typedef or something
a polymorphic lambda should be a valid visitor
user1804599
I cannot remember that it isn't.
All those typedefs are dumb but that's C++ for you
11:01
I don't think the typedefs are strictly necessary
Variant is rather old
Yeah, that's the thing
user1804599
Perl 6 variants are funny.
are you guys hyped for 2015?
11:03
they say the release is in 3 days
no, just 2015
oh
another year older, no I don't look forward
fukkkkkkkkk
not that much of an early adopter of new years
11:04
fuck this time passing thing
my throat hurts =/
btw, was the C++14 standard published or not?
@orlp lol
I already preordered 2016 too
It's been in preview by some media outlets.
11:05
should ship in like a year
user1804599
@orlp do less deepthroating then
@rightføld well IIRC your penis was tiny so it doesn't even reach
@Abyx Just one thing I know is that few cared enough to know.
user1804599
@orlp irrelevant
user1804599
also
user1804599
11:07
> IIRC
@orlp I liked 2005 better
@MarkGarcia well it would be funny if C++14 will be ISO/IEC 14882:2015
@rightføld lol
user1804599
Time to compose funcitons.
11:08
guys are you hyped for c++17?
they say its prerelease will come in 2020
@Abyx Well, I really hope that would be so! ;)
user1804599
I'm hyped for ECMAScript 6 NO MORE TRAMPOLINES WOOOOO
fuck ecma
@orlp I want the same drugs that you take for sore throat :P
@AndyProwl lots of deepthroat
11:09
oh
meanwhile in Ukraine
This time I realized ECMA is an anagram for ACME...
does giving deepthroat make you superexcited about stuff?
@AndyProwl giving?
user1804599
Receiving them results in a sore throat.
11:11
@orlp Does it have modules yet
4 mins ago, by orlp
@rightføld well IIRC your penis was tiny so it doesn't even reach
I'm afraid modules won't make it
Ell
Ell
My throats been killing me since Christmas day
@AndyProwl are modules rightfold's penis or sth?
@AlexM. they're statistically insignificant compared to the number of stds
11:12
@AlexM. Sure, Vandevoorde often mentions they're tightly connected
user1804599
I have a modular penis yes.
@Ell lol now we know your Xmas present for your friends
user1804599
It composes greatly with holes.
@orlp,@mark,@AndyProwl@rightføld,@CatPlusPlus .A c++ question for u all. stackoverflow.com/questions/27686596/…
user1804599
What the fuck is wrong with you?
11:13
The fuck you are and why are you pinging me with this shit
Oh no please, not this time, when relations are still fragile.
@bAbhinavKumar A question for all, an answer for none.
@bAbhinavKumar Please read the rules before. Dumping questions just like that is rude
Kicked just like Shog likes
Wee chat flags!
11:13
who's shitting with flags?
Don't laugh that's a medical condition
user1804599
Someone who doesn't like deepthroating, clearly.
guys
it's ok if you downvote
but at least fucking answer his question
yes, that question sucks
user1804599
11:14
It's a terrible question, of course it's OK to downvote.
@juanchopanza down vote is okay. but you should atleast solve the problem.plz — bAbhinav Kumar 1 hour ago
AT LEAST
I made something with yesterday's assets
wait what's an MCVE now
SOLVE HIS PROBLEM GUYS, THAT'S THE LEAST YOU CAN DO
11:15
I very much enjoy voting down
acronyms have changed
I'm such a level designer
2
oh, Minimal, Complete, and Verifiable Example
Mostly because snack overflow is made almost entirely out of crap
11:15
@AndyProwl Microsoft C++ Very Enigmatic
?
user1804599
@AlexM. looks fun
I knooow, but my make-grid-inaccessible-if-covered-by-huge-crap function is broken because these were modeled to a different scale than what I had
user1804599
If this question gets to -50 I will say male.
so I need something to replace it quick :(
@MarkGarcia s/Enigmatic/Excremental/
phew I almost left out the trailing /
11:17
@orlp kinda no.
@AndyProwl Good thing you didn't the second time! ;)
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@rightføld you became so angry.don't you. be calm — bAbhinav Kumar 35 secs ago
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ahahhaa
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top kek
11:20
lol
IRTA "don't you be calm"
@bAbhinavKumar dat question
I like the new Lounge rules.
rightfold
calm
the fuck
down
user1804599
I AM FUCKING CALM YOU MORON
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:D :D :D :D :mdma:
user1804599
I'm a mad scientist.
Keep calm and downvote.
user1804599
mwuahhahahahahahahahah function composition whahaha
user1804599
With just one more level of abstraction I can take over the world!
Xeo
Xeo
Mado Scientisto?
11:25
> Attackers might be trying to steal your information from loungecpp.net (for example, passwords, messages, or credit cards).
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@BartekBanachewicz ITT @CatPlusPlus is evil
I've watched the whole Stallman's talk
I'm stealing all messages from this chat as we speak
@BartekBanachewicz Congrats
@BartekBanachewicz What talk?
user1804599
11:27
There are probably people who always use porn mode because they think it's safer.
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz s/'s / s/
@CatPlusPlus it took him quite some time to get from "free software is cool" to "I don't use a mobile phone because aliens nsa my government is tracking me"
user1804599
The Moon is an alien spaceship.
s/alien/nazi/
Mobile security is shit
11:29
s/mobile//
user1804599
Its crew is the Illuminati.
s/security //
@rightføld and my gf always wants to look at it. Damn alien, I'm gonna chop your head off before you enslave me
@MarcoA. this sounds better w/o the context
Stop talking in fucking sed expressions you insane nerds
user1804599
11:34
It's Perl.
Why do I always seem to be around at the wrong time? I didn't get a chance to downvote 'pinging, entitled moron' before its stupid question got deleted.
lol, my <ul> list is diplaying a disc only for the first item
user1804599
sscce.
@Jefffrey <ul><ul>item</ul></ul>? :P
11:36
@MarkGarcia Eh
yay another potato empires contributor
user1804599
Je bent een l<ul>.
user1804599
Should I buy a fedora?
@rightføld je moeder is een lul
user1804599
11:40
valt wel mee
whoa, new guys
user1804599
Where can you buy decent hats?
I didn't know you have to buy fedora nowadays ... wasn't it open source?
in a mall
user1804599
I want to buy them online.
11:42
you probably know the online stores from your country better than us :P
unless you want to buy from other places and ship to yours
in that case, amazon, ebay etc
why do loud scummy streamers often get a lot of viewers on twitch =/
user1804599
Amazon results in books about Fedora Linux.
user1804599
Oh wait this is Kindle only.
user1804599
@orlp because america
don't buy fedoras unless you look like this
11:49
cause if you do, you might end up like this i.imgur.com/x9HmO.png
or like what orlp posted
user1804599
@AlexM. I'm not fat.
that's what they all say
guys
I have a get-rich-quick scheme
user1804599
@AlexM. but only a small part of them is telling lies.
11:53
set up a twitch stream featuring kittens 24/7
user1804599
@orlp You mean (get-rich-quick) in Scheme.
one donation = one petting
@orlp another lisp dialect?
sheeesh
(get-rich (time quick))
user1804599
That's a horrible name for a function that returns a timespan.
11:54
yeah cause lisp has great naming
cons car cdr
Any modern one has sanely-called alternatives so
user1804599
oh no i have to know three words
I like Lisp
I tried to make it into a type->timespan name but I dunno what to call type
what is quick?
it can be used for speed
for time
but the prefix all-bracketed style gets hard to read pretty quick when doing some mathy expressions
user1804599
11:56
What does it do?
user1804599
What is it?
RPLACA is funnier anyway
user1804599
You're question is vaguer than something vague.
@orlp SRFI 110
And 105
user1804599
@orlp There's a library for that: data-sorcery.org/2010/05/14/infix-math
11:57
I need someone bored to port readable to Racket
@CatPlusPlus cool, might hack around with that in a toy programming language
> While all men should respect women's right to say no to man's advances, all women should also respect man's right to rape them any time he pleases because he is physically stronger.
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